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  Why did Romney underperform so much?
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« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2018, 10:05:22 pm »

Lack of enthusiasm, elitism perception, awkward debater at times, seemed too fake. So many reasons. Obama won by default. He didn't run a great campaign in '12.

Except that he did.  Except for his debate performance, name one flaw.
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« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2018, 10:43:56 pm »

Lack of enthusiasm, elitism perception, awkward debater at times, seemed too fake. So many reasons. Obama won by default. He didn't run a great campaign in '12.

Except that he did.  Except for his debate performance, name one flaw.

The biggest mistakes
The 47% gaffe
Letting Obama define him as an out of touch corporate vulture rather than defining his business record positively
His many gaffes that made him look out of touch 'I don't care about poor people'
Record of flip-flopping
Failure to appeal to demographics like women and Hispanics(and not compensating for losses elsewhere)


In addition there were plenty of smaller mistakes within them and altogether his campaign was no match for Obama's.
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« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2018, 04:53:58 am »

The surprising thing was how badly he failed in states that were supposed to be at least cliffhangers. New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Colorado, Virginia, Iowa all delivered solid Obama victories, even with the polls in all of them showing a Romney victory to be within the bounds of possibility. All in all it made for a happy but somewhat boring election night.
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« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2018, 02:44:43 pm »

Lack of enthusiasm, elitism perception, awkward debater at times, seemed too fake. So many reasons. Obama won by default. He didn't run a great campaign in '12.

Except that he did.  Except for his debate performance, name one flaw.

The biggest mistakes
The 47% gaffe
Letting Obama define him as an out of touch corporate vulture rather than defining his business record positively
His many gaffes that made him look out of touch 'I don't care about poor people'
Record of flip-flopping
Failure to appeal to demographics like women and Hispanics(and not compensating for losses elsewhere)


In addition there were plenty of smaller mistakes within them and altogether his campaign was no match for Obama's.


In case there was confusion, I was asking him to name one flaw of Obama's campaign.
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« Reply #29 on: August 04, 2018, 03:43:33 pm »

Lack of enthusiasm, elitism perception, awkward debater at times, seemed too fake. So many reasons. Obama won by default. He didn't run a great campaign in '12.

Except that he did.  Except for his debate performance, name one flaw.

The biggest mistakes
The 47% gaffe
Letting Obama define him as an out of touch corporate vulture rather than defining his business record positively
His many gaffes that made him look out of touch 'I don't care about poor people'
Record of flip-flopping
Failure to appeal to demographics like women and Hispanics(and not compensating for losses elsewhere)


In addition there were plenty of smaller mistakes within them and altogether his campaign was no match for Obama's.


In case there was confusion, I was asking him to name one flaw of Obama's campaign.

Oh right that makes more sense. Idk what mistakes Obama made in his campaign, his record may have been a liability but the campaign itself was pretty good.
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« Reply #30 on: August 04, 2018, 07:39:11 pm »

Lack of enthusiasm, elitism perception, awkward debater at times, seemed too fake. So many reasons. Obama won by default. He didn't run a great campaign in '12.

Except that he did.  Except for his debate performance, name one flaw.

The biggest mistakes
The 47% gaffe
Letting Obama define him as an out of touch corporate vulture rather than defining his business record positively
His many gaffes that made him look out of touch 'I don't care about poor people'
Record of flip-flopping
Failure to appeal to demographics like women and Hispanics(and not compensating for losses elsewhere)


In addition there were plenty of smaller mistakes within them and altogether his campaign was no match for Obama's.


In case there was confusion, I was asking him to name one flaw of Obama's campaign.

Oh right that makes more sense. Idk what mistakes Obama made in his campaign, his record may have been a liability but the campaign itself was pretty good.

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« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2018, 03:09:17 pm »

He was successfully painted (and for good reason) as a top 1%, out of touch tycoon who was clearly out of touch with average Americans and genuinely seemed to lack empathy.

Not only that. He was stiff and awkward on the stump. If he was more natural and likable those attacks would not of stuck.
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« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2018, 04:00:52 pm »

Romney was Dole 2.0
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« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2018, 03:15:53 am »

Even with that stuff at hand, he still kept the race to less than five points. That is without a doubt the worst democrat victory since 1976. He also won more districts than Obama if I remember correctly (yes, I get the gerrymandering thing but whatever). Obama also did worse in total votes, states, electoral votes than he did in 2008. It wasn't a squeaker obviously, but to call Romney's loss a landslide would be foolish.
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« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2018, 01:09:52 pm »

Even with that stuff at hand, he still kept the race to less than five points. That is without a doubt the worst democrat victory since 1976. He also won more districts than Obama if I remember correctly (yes, I get the gerrymandering thing but whatever). Obama also did worse in total votes, states, electoral votes than he did in 2008. It wasn't a squeaker obviously, but to call Romney's loss a landslide would be foolish.

Democrat isn't an adjective. Use the correct terminology if you're going to subject this forum to the intellectual fecal matter that you're passing off as analysis.
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« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2018, 06:44:01 pm »

He kept the House GOP, but he had a bad Senate map, where Dems kept most of the battleground states: OH, VA, FL and PA. 
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« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2018, 01:06:31 pm »

"I like firing people."
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« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2018, 01:48:29 pm »


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75SEy1qu71I
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« Reply #38 on: August 22, 2018, 06:48:47 pm »

"A few days later, Friedemann entered Stevens Hall off the schoolís collegiate quad to find Romney marching out of his own room ahead of a prep school posse shouting about their plan to cut Lauberís hair. Friedemann followed them to a nearby room where they came upon Lauber, tackled him and pinned him to the ground. As Lauber, his eyes filling with tears, screamed for help, Romney repeatedly clipped his hair with a pair of scissors."
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« Reply #39 on: August 22, 2018, 09:22:16 pm »


Except Dole was running against peace and prosperity. Unlike Romney Dole stood no chance. In 2012 economic growth was sluggish. Unemployment was around 8%.
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