GA-06 and SC-05 election day & results thread

[DrScholl]

Democrats best opportunities are in suburban districts with a lot of moderates. The map is what it is.

[Hammy]

Ossoff ran the tried and true New Democrat "Identity Politics" campaign.  Instead of talking about real issues, he just focused on checking off the minority boxes and getting his womyn buzzwords into cute soundbites.  It's the reason Hillary lost and it's the reason Democrats will continue to lose.

He talked about Healthcare the most.

Try again.

He opposed single payer.

$30 million to lose a Trump by 1.5 point district by 5 points? Sad!

Admit it, you're happier that Ossoff lost than you would have been if he won, aren't you?

Of course he is happy. Jfern is a mess.

You think I'm happy about how terrible the Democratic party is and how they will continue to not learn any lessons from epic failures like this?

You're not disproving the notion that you're happy about Ossoff himself losing.

[TheSaint250]

yaaaas handel yaaaas

Yes, it was about time that she finally broke through and won a race. She hasn't been very lucky in the past.

She was motivated by the Martha Coakley comparisons

[Yank2133]

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And?

Look what district he is in.

[Technocracy Timmy]

Well the DCCC has got its work cut out for them in the Romney-Clinton districts in and around Orange County. Obviously it's not the same; but a lot of the groups Dems need to win over here are quite similar to the constituents in GA-6.

Ossoff was probably the best fit in terms of ideology and messaging for these kind of voters. Sh!t

Those districts are anywhere from 2-4% more Democratic than GA-6 and they aren't Republican gerrymanders. It wouldn't even take the sort of swing that occurred in GA-6 to totally turn Orange County blue.

They also won't have national attention and the same amount of money poured into them. Also GA-06 is about 13% AA. CA-48 for example is only 1%. Hispanics and Asians are far more elastic and they make up the bulk of minority voters in these areas.

Those districts are all at the top of the list for potentially Democratic gains, so they will get attention and locally there are plenty of resources to be competitive. With that said, none of those districts is an exact match for GA-6, so there is only so much you can compare.

I'm not suggesting that we can't win these areas, but tonight's results suggest that the typical suburban affluent college educated white demographic isn't as malleable as people have made them out to be. Ossoff ran a great campaign and messaged himself as exactly the kind of candidate who could appeal to these voters. The districts in and around Orange County are gonna tougher than people realize.

I was at a campaign training session for Harley Rouda and spoke to a consultant who is affiliated with the DCCC (and who was the person training us volunteers) and my question to her was about Clinton-Rohrabacher voters. She explained that the data collected on GOP rep-Clinton voters in the surrounding competitive districts in socal suggests that they're ultimately still Republicans who just didn't like Trump in particular but were satisfied with their incumbent GOP representative. That's not particularly good news when you look at tonight's results and compare her statements.

[Chief Justice Keef]

Trump's approval ratings continue to decline, there are multiple crises which are going unaddressed because of this administration's incompetence, the Republicans are inexplicably messing with healthcare and are intent on passing a bill with <20% support nationwide and virtually no support whatsoever from any major medical organizations, important positions related to national security and emergency preparedness/responsiveness are still unfilled, Trump is already facing pressure from a gleeful Putin who's fully aware of our president's incompetence, he's facing the biggest political scandal since Watergate and is now personally under investigation, and all of that is just scratching the surface.

Yeah...

MAGA, am I right?

None of that will matter when Democrats can't win because less and less people vote.

Tell it Jeremy Corbyn

The Dems have been running centrist trash all my life. It dosen't work and it never will. The GOP keeps pushing further and further right and they only win more. It's time for Dems to get a ing clue and chuck Pelosi, Hoyer, Perez, Schumer, et all to the side

It has always been the left that needs to sacrifice control and "be realistic" while the center has lost everything.

But no doubt they will double down on this terrible strategy of targeting the mythical moderate Republicans. "We only lost by a few points", they'll say, and we'll see a bunch of Jon Ossoff clones running in vulnerable Republican districts in 2018.

I see you changed your avatar

I'm done being a "member" of the Democrats. I'll vote for whomever runs against Erik Paulsen in MN-03 next year, but I can't keep calling myself a "Democrat".

[publicunofficial]

Ossoff ran the tried and true New Democrat "Identity Politics" campaign.  Instead of talking about real issues, he just focused on checking off the minority boxes and getting his womyn buzzwords into cute soundbites.  It's the reason Hillary lost and it's the reason Democrats will continue to lose.

He talked about Healthcare the most.

Try again.

He opposed single payer.

$30 million to lose a Trump by 1.5 point district by 5 points? Sad!

Admit it, you're happier that Ossoff lost than you would have been if he won, aren't you?

Of course he is happy. Jfern is a mess.

You think I'm happy about how terrible the Democratic party is and how they will continue to not learn any lessons from epic failures like this?

You're not disproving the notion that you're happy about Ossoff himself losing.

Who gives a s**t if he is?

[NOVA Green]

So are these the "final unofficial" results or....?

Handel--- 128,231     (52.7%)
Ossoff---   115,126    (47.3%)

Total 2 Party Votes--- 243,357

Can anyone confirm?

[GlobeSoc]

Democrats best opportunities are in suburban districts with a lot of moderates. The map is what it is.

The map is not carved into stone.

[publicunofficial]

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And?

Look what district he is in.

You are just the DC establishment personified aren't you.

[Green Line]

If Democrats actually ran reasonable, mainstream campaigns, they would have won this in a rout.  You all are so deluded to think that Ossoff didn't run a far left campaign.  He staked out issues far outside the mainstream in a district Trump WON, and yet you are angry he wasn't socialist enough?  Does 2+2 =5?

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And?

Look what district he is in.

So, he sucks on the one issue he talked about. No wonder he lost.

[Suburbia]

Tell it Jeremy Corbyn

The Dems have been running centrist trash all my life. It dosen't work and it never will. The GOP keeps pushing further and further right and they only win more. It's time for Dems to get a ing clue and chuck Pelosi, Hoyer, Perez, Schumer, et all to the side

It has always been the left that needs to sacrifice control and "be realistic" while the center has lost everything.

But no doubt they will double down on this terrible strategy of targeting the mythical moderate Republicans. "We only lost by a few points", they'll say, and we'll see a bunch of Jon Ossoff clones running in vulnerable Republican districts in 2018.

They exist. GA is more conservative than VA and NC.

The Democratic Party is already left-wing. You have tax-raisers and anti-military folks. C'mon.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

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And?

Look what district he is in.

Still lost.

[NYbusinessman]

ossof lost, its over, shut up and talk abut 2018 and 2020

[Yank2133]

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And?

Look what district he is in.

You are just the DC establishment personified aren't you.

lol, this isn't about being establishment.

This is common sense. This is a right-leaning district, so why would going all out to the left on healthcare be a smart move?

[publicunofficial]

Trump's approval ratings continue to decline, there are multiple crises which are going unaddressed because of this administration's incompetence, the Republicans are inexplicably messing with healthcare and are intent on passing a bill with <20% support nationwide and virtually no support whatsoever from any major medical organizations, important positions related to national security and emergency preparedness/responsiveness are still unfilled, Trump is already facing pressure from a gleeful Putin who's fully aware of our president's incompetence, he's facing the biggest political scandal since Watergate and is now personally under investigation, and all of that is just scratching the surface.

Yeah...

MAGA, am I right?

None of that will matter when Democrats can't win because less and less people vote.

Tell it Jeremy Corbyn

The Dems have been running centrist trash all my life. It dosen't work and it never will. The GOP keeps pushing further and further right and they only win more. It's time for Dems to get a ing clue and chuck Pelosi, Hoyer, Perez, Schumer, et all to the side

It has always been the left that needs to sacrifice control and "be realistic" while the center has lost everything.

But no doubt they will double down on this terrible strategy of targeting the mythical moderate Republicans. "We only lost by a few points", they'll say, and we'll see a bunch of Jon Ossoff clones running in vulnerable Republican districts in 2018.

I see you changed your avatar

I'm done being a "member" of the Democrats. I'll vote for whomever runs against Erik Paulsen in MN-03 next year, but I can't keep calling myself a "Democrat".

Glad we came to this point around the same time!

Tell it Jeremy Corbyn

The Dems have been running centrist trash all my life. It dosen't work and it never will. The GOP keeps pushing further and further right and they only win more. It's time for Dems to get a ing clue and chuck Pelosi, Hoyer, Perez, Schumer, et all to the side

It has always been the left that needs to sacrifice control and "be realistic" while the center has lost everything.

But no doubt they will double down on this terrible strategy of targeting the mythical moderate Republicans. "We only lost by a few points", they'll say, and we'll see a bunch of Jon Ossoff clones running in vulnerable Republican districts in 2018.

They exist. GA is more conservative than VA and NC.

The Democratic Party is already left-wing. You have tax-raisers and anti-military folks. C'mon.

When your standards for being left wing are "wants to raise taxes" and "Thinks the US military could stand to tone it down a notch", you are DEFINITELY a centrist.

[AtorBoltox]

Jfern, if every democrat who lost has lost because they're not left wing enough, why did Quist lose by 6 points?

[Confused Democrat]

Karen Handel is shameless.

[Dr. Arch]

Jfern, if every democrat who lost has lost because they're not left wing enough, why did Quist lose by 6 points?

He won't be satisfied until you run Che Guevara.

[Classic Conservative]

The Handel crowd goes crazy when she mentions Trump. They start chanting his name and everything.

[Hammy]

The Handel crowd goes crazy when she mentions Trump. They start chanting his name and everything.

That's just downright creepy brainwashed behavior there.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Wow, my GA predictions were almost spot on. My SC was off, but yeah.

[ApatheticAustrian]

How does trafalgar do it??

didn't they just go for the high end of the "reasonable pro-republican result scale"?

[TheSaint250]

The Handel crowd goes crazy when she mentions Trump. They start chanting his name and everything.

That's just downright creepy brainwashed behavior there.

I don't think it's creepy to say his name.