(Thread) Interesting factoids about presidential elections.

[Mr. Smith]

McGovern is the most recent Democrat from The West and was the last time until 2016 that The West overall trended leftwards of The East.

Nevada has been just as reliable as Ohio in determining the winner since 1912.

2016 was the first election since 1932 in which Pennsylvania and Minnesota voted to the right of the nation.

Trump is the first President to lose his home-state by double digits.

2012 was the first time since 1944 that the winner decreased both his Electoral and Popular count.



Jimmy Carter's election did not create ANY coattails in the Senate, in fact, incumbent Democrats actually lost more than they gained from vulnerable incumbent Republican. But this was saved by Democrats picking up more open seats from retiring Republicans than the reverse.

Jimmy Carter is also the first Democrat to win without Nevada since Grover Cleveland.

2004 was the first election Republicans won without a single Northeastern state, and if Ohio had gone to Kerry would've been the first time a Democrat won without The South.

2000 would've been the first time Democrats won with The South, if Al Gore had just picked Jeanne Shaheen to lock up New Hampshire.

1988 was the first time a Republican won without Iowa.

[Mr. Smith]

1972, aka the only time Alaska actually voted to the left of Hawaii as states.

[Mr. Smith]

No there is a county map (besides Hawaii) that has looked the same since 2000 (irrespective of the hues).

Arizona?

That's right.

So, in the last 5 elections, every Arizona county voted either R-R-R-R-R or D-D-D-D-D? Fascinating.

It even gets better: Arizona could vote Democrat in two years without changing its county results map.

Democrats are winning Maricopa and Yuma if they win Arizona.

Probably, but they don't have to, just lowered margins in Maricopa would do it.

[Mr. Smith]

The one year VT and GA both voted more Democratic than the nation is NOT the same as the one year both voted Democratic.

And there has yet to be a year where the two vote Democratic AND moreso than the nation.

[Mr. Smith]

The one year VT and GA both voted more Democratic than the nation is NOT the same as the one year both voted Democratic.

And there has yet to be a year where the two vote Democratic AND moreso than the nation.

Is that year 1980? Carter won his home state against Reagan by 14%, and Reagan carried Vermont 44-38%, with Anderson 15% of the vote.

Yes.

[Mr. Smith]

2020:

Florida votes far to the right after spending most elections at a consistent R+3 angle.

[Mr. Smith]

1840: 20K [Van Buren did quite well for such unpopularity]

[Mr. Smith]

Trump is the first person to lose despite winning the trifecta of TX/FL/OH.

There is a caveat...it was bound to happen sooner or later..it would've happened in 2000 if Gore won NH, 2004 if Kerry won CO/IA/NM, 2016 if Hillary won MI/PA/WI. Hell, Bob Dole could've won FL and OH and ever state he lost state by margins less than he lost those, and he still would've lost.

Could've happened in 1960 if Nixon had better luck in TX.

[Mr. Smith]

Barack Obama is the only ever major party presidential candidate born after the 1940s.

Barack Obama is the only successor to not be older than his predecessor since 1992.

[Mr. Smith]

The last time Mississippi and Alabama voted differently from each other was 1840.

If I am correct, actually the only time

1960.

[Mr. Smith]

Iowa is the only state to split evenly for both sides in the past 6 elections.

Georgia and Vermont have both voted Democratic twice, but Georgia has still been rightwards of the nation.

1980 is still the only time both voted left [but Ye olde patterns persisted].

1972 is the only time both voted right and Republican.

[Mr. Smith]

1988 was the last time one of WI, MI and PA voted differently than the others.

2004 was the only election since 1964 that both major parties picked up states.

1996 says differently.

[Mr. Smith]

Updating:

For the Presidential:

Most Recent dead DEM: Walter Mondale
Most Recent dead GOP: John McCain

Furthest Back living DEM: Jimmy Carter
Furthest Back living GOP: George W. Bush

For the VP:

Most Recent dead DEM: Lloyd Bentsen
Most Recent dead GOP: Jack Kemp

Furthest Back living DEM: Al Gore
Furthest Back living GOP: Dan Quayle

Libertarians

Most recent dead presidential candidate: 2000 Harry Browne
Furthest back alive presidential candidate: 1980 Ed Clark

Most recent dead VP candidate: 1984 James Lewis
Further back alive VP candidate: 1988 Andre Marrou

No presidential or VP candidate for the Green Party has passed away yet. Ralph Nader is 87 and then the next oldest person is Jill Stein at 70. Nader's VP candidate Winona LaDuke is only 62 (was 37 and 41 for the 1996 and 2000 elections).

What about David Cobb and Howie Hawkins. I could've sworn Stein was younger than the latter at least.

Not sure the wherabouts for McKinney.

[Mr. Smith]

Not directly concerning a general election, but the Democratic primaries of 2016:

We all know that Bernie was the paradigm of a caucus candidate; he was also very successful in winning open and semi-open primaries. On the other hand, he fared quite badly in closed primaries. In fact, he merely managed to win exactly one closed primary (bar Democrats Abroad). Can you figure out which without looking it up?

Oklahoma?

[Mr. Smith]

Nebraska was the most Republican state for 60 years, then Trump really killed it in North Dakota.

[Mr. Smith]

1996 was the last time the Democratic ticket consisted of two Protestants, but the 2012 GOP ticket was the only ticket ever to pair two non-Protestants.

Even though four of the first five presidents were Virginians, John Tyler was the last president elected from Virginia (and he, of course, was only elected VP).

James Buchanan was the only POTUS from Pennsylvania.

1. What religion was Lieberman?

2. Ike moved to Gettysburg by 1956. If we count Trump as Floridian, it's only fair to include Ike on this too.

[Mr. Smith]

1996 was the last time the Democratic ticket consisted of two Protestants, but the 2012 GOP ticket was the only ticket ever to pair two non-Protestants.

Even though four of the first five presidents were Virginians, John Tyler was the last president elected from Virginia (and he, of course, was only elected VP).

James Buchanan was the only POTUS from Pennsylvania.

1. What religion was Lieberman?

2. Ike moved to Gettysburg by 1956. If we count Trump as Floridian, it's only fair to include Ike on this too.

1. Jewish
2. Trump should be counted as a New Yorker for the sake of "what state was this President from?" his self-imposed exile doesn't, doesn't count

I didn't know he was practicing, I thought he was nominally of some Protestant sect and merely ethnically Jewish.

[Mr. Smith]

As you can see, in all the zero years since JFK, Dems have only gotten four states all four times, DC probably goes to JFK if granted so, yeah.