UK General Discussion: 2017 and onwards, Mayhem

[DaWN]

The Conservative party appears to be having some sort of a mental breakdown...

The entire political system is having a very clear and obvious mental breakdown

[Middle-aged Europe]

Theresa May says that Parliament needs to pass a Brexit deal until next Wednesday, otherwise she's gonna seek a Article 50 extension till June 30 which means that the United Kingdom would have to participate in the European Parliament election on May 26.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Theresa May says that Parliament needs to pass a Brexit deal until next Wednesday, otherwise she's gonna seek a Article 50 extension till June 30 which means that the United Kingdom would have to participate in the European Parliament election on May 26.

I doubt she'd be able to get an extension until June 30. Maybe May 25, but no later unless she revokes the Article 50 invocation thereby resetting the clock to two years.

[Dereich]

Theresa May says that Parliament needs to pass a Brexit deal until next Wednesday, otherwise she's gonna seek a Article 50 extension till June 30 which means that the United Kingdom would have to participate in the European Parliament election on May 26.

I doubt she'd be able to get an extension until June 30. Maybe May 25, but no later unless she revokes the Article 50 invocation thereby resetting the clock to two years.

I'd think that revoking article 50 just to re-invoke it for more time wouldn't qualify as an "unequivocal and unconditional decision to revoke" like the ECJ stated it would have to be. Wouldn't they just decide that it was just an attempt to game the system and deny Britain another 2 years?

Even if they didn't, I'd assume that such gamesmanship would make the EU even less inclined than it already is to negotiate anything favorable for Britain.

[jaichind]

Looks like May is going to go for a third vote 3/20 on the Brexit deal.

[Sestak]

Looks like May is going to go for a third vote 3/20 on the Brexit deal.

On the same one? Again?

[jaichind]

Looks like May is going to go for a third vote 3/20 on the Brexit deal.

On the same one? Again?

I guess she figures there is a Brexit majority.  If hardliners in that majority can see that there is going to be an indefinite delay in Brexit, she seems to believe,  then they will have no choice to vote for her Brexit deal.

[Middle-aged Europe]

https://twitter.com/GuardianHeather/status/1105940201405337601

[Dereich]

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1105932337202774018

Maybe May is right to schedule another "meaningful vote."

[Sestak]

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1105932337202774018

Maybe May is right to schedule another "meaningful vote."

How many of them are, though?

[Middle-aged Europe]

Totally unrealistic, I know... but I think the Queen should just fire May now and appoint John Bercow as the PM of a Tory (minus ERG)-Labour coalition government.

It's a national emergency, after all.

[Silent Hunter]

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1105932337202774018

Maybe May is right to schedule another "meaningful vote."

How many of them are, though?

Precise number unknown. There are parliamentary records of those who subscribe to its 'research' service, but they don't have a full membership list publicly available.

70 is as good a guess as any.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Theresa May says that Parliament needs to pass a Brexit deal until next Wednesday, otherwise she's gonna seek a Article 50 extension till June 30 which means that the United Kingdom would have to participate in the European Parliament election on May 26.

I doubt she'd be able to get an extension until June 30. Maybe May 25, but no later unless she revokes the Article 50 invocation thereby resetting the clock to two years.

I'd think that revoking article 50 just to re-invoke it for more time wouldn't qualify as an "unequivocal and unconditional decision to revoke" like the ECJ stated it would have to be. Wouldn't they just decide that it was just an attempt to game the system and deny Britain another 2 years?

Even if they didn't, I'd assume that such gamesmanship would make the EU even less inclined than it already is to negotiate anything favorable for Britain.

If the 2-year ploy happens there will be a referendum and/or election that might shed light on what Britain actually wants among things that it can actually get. If not then there won't be any budge on the part of the EU, and if there is, there won't be much budge.

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

Prime Minister Jeremy Corbyn is looking more and more inevitable when the next election occurs.

[brucejoel99]

Theresa May says that Parliament needs to pass a Brexit deal until next Wednesday, otherwise she's gonna seek a Article 50 extension till June 30 which means that the United Kingdom would have to participate in the European Parliament election on May 26.

Actually, if more time is needed for negotiations & the EU27 chooses to extend Article 50 up to July 1st, the UK won't have to hold European Parliament elections because the first sitting of the next European Parliament isn't until July 2nd. And although the current European Parliament will no longer be sitting past April, it could still be recalled for ratification anytime until new MEPs take up their seats in July. Thus, officials have the leeway to delay Article 50 until June 30th.

Only in the scenario in which the Article 50 period is extended beyond July 1st would the UK have to hold European Parliament elections on May 23rd; otherwise, the European Commission could very well initiate treaty infringement proceedings against the UK.

[Statilius the Epicurean]

Here come dat general election.

[Diouf]

EU leaders have begun directly urging Theresa May to hold a fresh Brexit referendum, amid frustration on the continent at the political crisis raging in Britain.

Andrej Babiš, the Czech prime minister, revealed on Wednesday that he had called Ms May at the weekend and urged her to hold another vote – with a view to staying in the EU.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-news-latest-czech-theresa-may-second-referendum-remain-andrej-babis-a8821576.html

[Middle-aged Europe]

I've been of the opinion for a couple of months now that a second referendum will be the only way to break the gridlock and finally come to some sort of decision regarding Brexit. The politicians have failed, now the people must decide.

[Silent Hunter]

Yes, but that's not a silver bullet. Would likely produce a 55-45 vote for Remain at best.

[DaWN]

Prime Minister Jeremy Corbyn is looking more and more inevitable when the next election occurs.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[Silent Hunter]

One murder prosecution over Bloody Sunday

[Horus]

Prime Minister Jeremy Corbyn is looking more and more inevitable when the next election occurs.

[Gass3268]

There will be a vote on a 2nd referendum

[Zaybay]

Finally, took them long enough!

[Lumine]

There will be a vote on a 2nd referendum

Labour will not be supporting it - they're expected to abstain - as it is believed it is not yet time to push for it.