Canada: Two straight men to marry for tax reasons; gay community outraged

[John Dibble]

You weren't born wanting to commit adultery, you were born wanting to mate. You can control whether or not you want to commit adultery, you can't control whom you are sexually attracted to.

I didn't say "control who you are attracted to", rather I am simply stating: just because you feel like doing it, whether by instinct or learned behavior, doesn't make it right.

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Doesn't make it wrong, either. I've yet to see any remotely logical or convincing argument as to how homosexuality is evil.

[KillerPollo]

This is why Gay Marriage should never have been legalized. People are going to take advantage of the fact that Gays are a "protected Class" and just pretend to be gay and get all the benefits. This is another reason why I OPPOSE gay = rights. It is not the same as racism. I mean, if you're born black, you're ALWAYS going to be black (even Michael Jackson) you have no choice as to whether you choose to be black, white, asian, mixed, etc. Homosexuality cannot be determined just by looking at the person. People... I mean, EVERYONE can just pretend to be gay, and go around the laws to get these privileges.

[John Dibble]

This is why Gay Marriage should never have been legalized. People are going to take advantage of the fact that Gays are a "protected Class" and just pretend to be gay and get all the benefits. This is another reason why I OPPOSE gay = rights. It is not the same as racism. I mean, if you're born black, you're ALWAYS going to be black (even Michael Jackson) you have no choice as to whether you choose to be black, white, asian, mixed, etc. Homosexuality cannot be determined just by looking at the person. People... I mean, EVERYONE can just pretend to be gay, and go around the laws to get these privileges.

I oppose special treatment for minorities too, but I still support legal gay marriages(actually, I think the government should just get out of marriage and give people civil unions, leave marriage to churches and stuff). Still, your argument here has already been refuted - people of the opposite sex can get married now without love, without God, or any other such thing just so they can get tax benefits. It's more of an argument against benefits for married couples than against gay marriage.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

I've yet to see any remotely logical or convincing argument as to how homosexuality is evil.

Do you believe worshipping the sun is evil?

[John Dibble]

I've yet to see any remotely logical or convincing argument as to how homosexuality is evil.

Do you believe worshipping the sun is evil?

No, but I don't see anything good about it either. The sun will continue burning whether you worship it or not, and sunworshippers could use their time spent worshipping it to do something more productive.

[KillerPollo]

I've yet to see any remotely logical or convincing argument as to how homosexuality is evil.

Open your eyes, and you will. Remember.

[John Dibble]

I've yet to see any remotely logical or convincing argument as to how homosexuality is evil.

Open your eyes, and you will. Remember.

It doesn't do any harm to anyone(provided it's consensual, of course), so how is it evil? Telling me to open my eyes isn't a very good argument.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

I've yet to see any remotely logical or convincing argument as to how homosexuality is evil.

Do you believe worshipping the sun is evil?

No...

No would you find the worshipping of angels "evil", yet is it condemned in the bible:

Col 2:18 Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you for the prize.

The point being...evil is not defined by you, whether or not you see any convincing arguments.  It is human nature to be comfortable with evil and we only know certain things are evil because of God's word:

Rom 7:7 Indeed I would not have known what sin was except through the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, "Do not covet."

[opebo]

But why do you limit your "he was born that way" argument to just sexual attraction?  Why not expand it to all desires?

Not all desires are inherent instinct, for one thing.

Well, I have four kids, and I can tell you they were all born with the instinct for lying, greed, envy, stealing, fits of rage, etc.

jmfsct, why do you presume to use the term 'sin' for such things?  All you can say about them is that you don't like them, or possibly that their actualization by the individual is inconvenient for other individuals or some society.  Why is it necessary for you to make the completely absurd and insupportable claim that such things are objectively 'wrong', when there is a more or less reasonable case to be made for some of them in terms of practicality.  Surely you can see that this opens you up to being considered a madman by rational people.

[Josh/Devilman88]

Good for them. why would the Homomsexuals care what two straight men do...

[Max Power]

Good for them. why would the Homomsexuals care what two straight men do...

What the hell is a homomsexual?

[Speed of Sound]

Good for them. why would the Homomsexuals care what two straight men do...

What the hell is a homomsexual?

lol its someone who is sexually attracted to homoms. duh.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

jmfsct, why do you presume to use the term 'sin' for such things?  All you can say about them is that you don't like them, or possibly that their actualization by the individual is inconvenient for other individuals or some society.  Why is it necessary for you to make the completely absurd and insupportable claim that such things are objectively 'wrong', when there is a more or less reasonable case to be made for some of them in terms of practicality.  Surely you can see that this opens you up to being considered a madman by rational people.

I am not insane, most excellent Opedo.  What I am saying is true and reasonable.