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Marokai Backbeat
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« Reply #275 on: December 01, 2009, 12:29:09 AM »

It always make me happy to see more love for Weaver.
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« Reply #276 on: December 01, 2009, 12:33:24 AM »

You would really vote for Nixon over McGovern?

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« Reply #277 on: December 01, 2009, 05:43:38 AM »

You would really vote for Nixon over McGovern?

I like McGovern a whole lot and personally dislike Nixon a great deal. But he wasn't a terrible President, all crimes aside, and McGovern wasn't really great as a candidate.
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« Reply #278 on: December 01, 2009, 09:59:54 AM »

Democratic primaries:

1952: Estes Kefauver
1956: Adlai Stevenson
1960: Hubert Humphrey
1964: Lyndon B. Johnson
1968: Eugene McCarthy
1972: George McGovern
1976: Mo Udall
1980: Ted Kennedy
1984: Walter Mondale
1988: Michael Dukakis
1992: Jerry Brown
1996: Bill Clinton
2000: Al Gore
2004: John Kerry
2008: Barack Obama
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« Reply #279 on: December 01, 2009, 06:04:49 PM »

In reality, I would have abstained from voting in many of these "lesser of two evils" contests, but since I was supposed to be typing up a report, why not waste time filling out this whole list....



1789: Washington (i)
1792: Washington (F)
1796: Adams (F)
1800: Jefferson (D-R)
1804: Jefferson (D-R)
1808: Madison (D-R)
1812: Clinton (F)
1816: Monroe (D-R)
1820: Monroe (D-R)
1824: J. Q. Adams (D-R)
1828: J. Q. Adams (NR)
1832: Jackson (D)
1836: Van Buren (D)
1840: Van Buren (D)
1844: Birney (L)
1848: Van Buren (FS)
1852: Hale (FS)
1856: Frémont (R)
1860: Douglas (D)
1864: McClellan  (D)
1868: Seymour  (D)
1872: Greeley (LR/D)
1876: Tilden (D)
1880: Hancock (D)
1884: Cleveland (D)
1888: Cleveland (D)
1892: Cleveland (D)
1896: Palmer  (ND)
1900: McKinley (R)
1904: Parker (D)
1908: Taft (R)
1912: Taft (R)
1916: Hughes (R)
1920: Harding (R)
1924: Coolidge (R)
1928: Smith (D)
1932: Hoover (R)
1936: Lemke (U)
1940: R. Taft (primary+write-in) (R)
1944: R. Taft (primary+write-in) (R)
1948: R. Taft (primary+write-in) (R)
1952: Stevenson (D)
1956: Eisenhower (R)
1960: Nixon (R)
1964: Goldwater (R)
1968: McCarthy (primary+write-in) (D)    
1972: McGovern (D)
1976: Carter (D)
1980: Carter (D)
1984: Bergland  (L)
1988: Paul (L)
1992: Perot (I)
1996: Browne (L)
2000: Buchanan (Ref)    
2004: Nader (G)
2008: Paul (primary+write-in) (R)
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« Reply #280 on: December 01, 2009, 06:31:34 PM »


He would have voted for Polk in 1844 (he kicked Mexico's ass!) and Roosevelt in 1932 (he said he would balance the budget!)... but also would have voted for Teddy Roosevelt's Progressive Party in 1912, which wanted to vastly expand federal power.

Actually, it's odd that he would vote so consistently for Whigs and Republicans in the 19th century, in light of their protectionism and "Big Government" views. His support for Wallace is even stranger.

This guy's hypothetical voting history makes no sense at all, unless he's one of those right-wingers who incorrectly associate Whigs and early Republicans with present-day "conservatism." But that still doesn't explain his Bull Moose support or his Wallace vote.

Yeah, he needs to explain himself.
I chose as I would if I lived in that era, and according to the politics of the day, not according to my present views. For example, in 1844 I would have voted for Clay if not for his opposition over the annexation of Texas, and Roosevelt in 1932 because I would have felt betrayed by Hoover who had promised the end of poverty during his term. Throughout time from the 1790’s-1932 I would have wanted expanded government, and more liberal policies, more interventionism, etc. However, by 1932 that would become the opposite (except for internationalism), and having controlled government growth. The 1968 vote partially falls into this category, though a lot of it has to do with the issue of Civil Rights. While I do support the institution in principle, in practice it does the same thing it is supposed to prevent, bringing ethnicity back into the basis of whether you get a job or position. That and he promised to win in Vietnam, something that Nixon, while he promised an “honorable victory”, never really mentioned.

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« Reply #281 on: December 01, 2009, 09:10:08 PM »

Marokai, you would have voted for Nixon in 1972 but not in 1960?
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« Reply #282 on: December 02, 2009, 12:00:10 AM »

Marokai, you would have voted for Nixon in 1972 but not in 1960?

Aye. JFK was inspiring and exciting and had a broad range of new ideas. Nixon didn't have a great rep at that time, and not even Eisenhower could really stand him.

'72 was a different time, after a chaotic period (and my first vote against him) I would've voted for him hesitantly since I wouldn't have a great deal of objections to the way his presidency was shaping up.
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« Reply #283 on: December 02, 2009, 12:07:00 AM »


Wait, you would support Nixon over McGovern?!
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« Reply #284 on: December 02, 2009, 01:20:59 AM »


Wait, you would support Nixon over McGovern?!
That is indeed pretty ridiculous.
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« Reply #285 on: December 02, 2009, 01:45:09 AM »


Wait, you would support Nixon over McGovern?!

In retrospect, no. I tried to put myself in the wayback machine for that one. Nixon gets a bad wrap that isn't always deserved.
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« Reply #286 on: December 02, 2009, 02:01:38 AM »


Wait, you would support Nixon over McGovern?!

In retrospect, no. I tried to put myself in the wayback machine for that one. Nixon gets a bad wrap that isn't always deserved.

It isn't? What exactly is so great about Nixon that everyone seems to be missing?
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« Reply #287 on: December 02, 2009, 02:04:20 AM »

Marokai, you would have voted for Nixon in 1972 but not in 1960?

Aye. JFK was inspiring and exciting and had a broad range of new ideas. Nixon didn't have a great rep at that time, and not even Eisenhower could really stand him.

'72 was a different time, after a chaotic period (and my first vote against him) I would've voted for him hesitantly since I wouldn't have a great deal of objections to the way his presidency was shaping up.

Eh, I think that JFK in 1960 was all style and no substance. His new ideas primarily consisted of building more weapons. If we look at running mates, you have a pronounced contrast between the liberal Lodge and the right-wing Johnson.
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« Reply #288 on: December 02, 2009, 03:22:31 AM »

My issues?
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« Reply #289 on: December 02, 2009, 07:32:46 AM »


Disgusting.
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« Reply #290 on: December 02, 2009, 07:37:34 AM »

The last time I would ever have voted Democrat would have been 1904.
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« Reply #291 on: December 02, 2009, 07:40:11 AM »

Party identification:
Republican 1856-1884
Democrat 1884-1904
Republican 1904-1972
Libertarian 1972-
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« Reply #292 on: December 02, 2009, 08:20:44 AM »

I'll start with 1900:

1900: McKinley (R)
1904: Roosevelt (R)
1908: Taft (R)
1912: Roosevelt (I)
1916: Hughes (R)
1920: Harding (R)
1924: LaFollette (P)
1928: Smith (D)
1932: Roosevelt (D)
1936: Roosevelt (D)
1940: Roosevelt (D)
1944: Roosevelt (D)
1948: Truman (D)

1952: Eisenhower (R)
1956: Eisenhower (R)
1960: Nixon (R)

1964: Johnson (D)
1968: Nixon (R)
1972: Nixon (R)
1976: Ford (R)

1980: Anderson (I)
1984: Mondale (D)
1988: Dukakis (D)
1992: Clinton (D)
1996: Clinton (D)
2000: Gore (D)

2004: Kerry (D)
2008: Obama (D)
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« Reply #293 on: December 02, 2009, 11:22:05 AM »


Wait, you would support Nixon over McGovern?!

In retrospect, no. I tried to put myself in the wayback machine for that one. Nixon gets a bad wrap that isn't always deserved.

It isn't? What exactly is so great about Nixon that everyone seems to be missing?

The fact that his 1972 opponent was not-so-great.
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« Reply #294 on: December 02, 2009, 04:15:24 PM »


Wait, you would support Nixon over McGovern?!

In retrospect, no. I tried to put myself in the wayback machine for that one. Nixon gets a bad wrap that isn't always deserved.

It isn't? What exactly is so great about Nixon that everyone seems to be missing?

The fact that his 1972 opponent was not-so-great.

From a libertarian perspective, McGovern was very nearly perfect.
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« Reply #295 on: December 02, 2009, 07:00:01 PM »


Wait, you would support Nixon over McGovern?!

In retrospect, no. I tried to put myself in the wayback machine for that one. Nixon gets a bad wrap that isn't always deserved.

It isn't? What exactly is so great about Nixon that everyone seems to be missing?

The fact that his 1972 opponent was not-so-great.

Nixon was one of America's worst presidents, while his 1972 opponents formed one of the last decent tickets to be nominated by the Democratic Party.
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« Reply #296 on: December 02, 2009, 08:55:24 PM »

I'm sure I've done this before but still. This assumes that I have the same views as I do today, but in the context of the times and lacking 20/20 hindsight.

1789: George Washington
1792: George Washington
1796: Thomas Jefferson
1800: Thomas Jefferson
1804: Thomas Jefferson
1808: James Madison
1812: James Madison
1816: James Monroe
1820: James Monroe
1824: Andrew Jackson
1828: Andrew Jackson
1832: Andrew Jackson
1836: Martin Van Buren
1840: Martin Van Buren
1844: James Polk
1848: Martin Van Buren
1852: John Hale
1856: John Fremont
1860: John Bell
1864: Abraham Lincoln
1868: Ulysses S. Grant
1872: Ulysses S. Grant
1876: Samuel Tilden
1880: Winfield Hancock
1884: Grover Cleveland
1888: Grover Cleveland
1892: James Weaver
1896: William Jennings Bryan
1900: William Jennings Bryan
1904: Theodore Roosevelt
1908: William Jennings Bryan
1912: Theodore Roosevelt
1916: Woodrow Wilson
1920: James Cox
1924: Robert LaFollette
1928: Al Smith
1932: Franklin Roosevelt
1936: Franklin Roosevelt
1940: Franklin Roosevelt
1944: Franklin Roosevelt
1948: Harry Truman
1952: Dwight Eisenhower
1956: Dwight Eisenhower
1960: John Kennedy
1964: Lyndon Johnson
1968: Hubert Humphrey
1972: Richard Nixon
1976: Jimmy Carter
1980: Ronald Reagan
1984: Ronald Reagan
1988: Michael Dukakis
1992: Bill Clinton
1996: Bill Clinton
2000: George Bush
2004: John Kerry
2008: Barack Obama

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1796-1848: Democrat
1848-1860: Free Soil
1864-1872: Republican
1872-Present: Democrat
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« Reply #297 on: December 05, 2009, 12:53:05 PM »

1904: Theodore Roosevelt
1908: William Jennings Bryan
1912: Theodore Roosevelt
1916: Woodrow Wilson
1920: James Cox
1924: Robert LaFollette
1928: Al Smith
1932: Franklin Roosevelt
1936: Franklin Roosevelt
1940: Franklin Roosevelt
1944: Franklin Roosevelt
1948: Harry Truman
1952: Adlai Stevenson
1956: Adlai Stevenson
1960: John Kennedy
1964: Lyndon Johnson
1968: Hubert Humphrey
1972: George McGovern
1976: Jimmy Carter
1980: Jimmy Carter
1984: Walter Mondale
1988: Michael Dukakis
1992: Bill Clinton
1996: Bill Clinton
2000: Al Gore
2004: John Kerry
2008: Barack Obama

This, except I'd like to think I would have been forward thinking enough to vote for Debs in 20 and Thomas in 28. Probably not if I thought Cox or Smith had any chance of keeping Harding or Hoover out of the White House though. :-P
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« Reply #298 on: December 09, 2009, 09:24:01 PM »

I know you said from 1904-2004, but I am going to do every year:

1789: George Washington (No Party, allied with the Federalsits) and John Adams (Federalist)
1792: George Washington (No Party, allied with the Federalists) and John Adams (Federalist)
1796: John Adams (Federalist) and Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) (Yes I would vote for two people from different parties)
1800: Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican) and John Adams (Federalist) (Yes I would switch who I would want to be President and Vice President)
1804: Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1808: James Madison (Democratic-Republican)
1812: James Madison (Democratic-Republican) (Tough call)
1816: James Monroe (Democratic-Republican)
1820: James Monroe (Democratic-Republican)
1824: John Quincy Adams (Democratic-Republican)
1828: John Quincy Adams (National Republican)
1832: Henry Clay (National Republican)
1836: Daniel Webster (Whig)
1840: William Henry Harrison (Whig)
1844: James Polk (Democrat)
1848: Zachary Taylor (Whig)
1852: John Parker Hale (Free Soil)
1856: John C Fremont (Republican)
1860: Abraham Lincoln (Republican)
1864: Abraham Lincoln (Republican)
1868: Ulysses S. Grant (Republican)
1872: Ulysses S. Grant (Republican)
1876: Rutherford B Hayes (Republican)
1880: James Garfield (Republican)
1884: James G. Blaine (Republican)
1888: Benjamin Harrison (Republican)
1892: James B. Weaver (Populist)
1896: William McKinley (Republican)
1900: William McKinley (Republican)
1904: Theodore Roosevelt (Republican)
1908: Eugene V Debs (Socialist)
1912: Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive)
1916: Charles E Hughes (Republican)
1920: Eugene V Debs (Socialist)
1924: Robert M La Follette (Progressive)
1928: Al Smith (Democrat)
1932: Franklin D Roosevelt (Democrat)
1936: Franklin D Roosevelt (Democrat)
1940: Franklin D Roosevelt (Democrat)
1944: Franklin D Roosevelt (Democrat)
1948: Harry S Truman (Democrat)
1952: Dwight D Eisenhower (Republican)
1956: Dwight D Eisenhower (Republican) (Last Republican I would have voted for)
1960: John F Kennedy (Democrat) (Democratic Primary: John F Kennedy)
1964: Lyndon B Johnson (Democrat)
1968: Hubert Humphrey (Democrat) (Democratic Primary: Robert F Kennedy)
1972: George McGovern (Democrat) (Democratic Primary: George McGovern)
1976: Jimmy Carter (Democrat) (Democartic Primary: Jerry Brown)
1980: Jimmy Carter (Democrat) (Democratic Primary: Ted Kennedy)
1984: Walter Mondale (Democrat) (Democratic Primary: Walter Mondale)
1988: Michael Dukakis (Democrat) (Democratic Primary: Michael Dukakis)
1992: Bill Clinton (Democrat) (Democratic Primary: Jerry Brown)
1996: Bill Clinton (Democrat)
2000: Al Gore (Democrat) (Democratic Primary: Al Gore)
2004: John Kerry (Democrat) (Democratic Primary: Howard Dean)
2008: Barack Obama (Democrat) (Democratic Primary: Barack Obama)
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« Reply #299 on: December 12, 2009, 02:33:04 PM »


Wait, you would support Nixon over McGovern?!

In retrospect, no. I tried to put myself in the wayback machine for that one. Nixon gets a bad wrap that isn't always deserved.

It isn't? What exactly is so great about Nixon that everyone seems to be missing?

The fact that his 1972 opponent was not-so-great.

From a libertarian socialist perspective, McGovern was very nearly perfect.

Fixed that for you.
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