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Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook
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« Reply #75 on: December 23, 2019, 03:56:55 AM »

There hasnt been no terrorist attack. Aside from being funny, it would have served Trump, Bush W and Palin, to show contrition. Bush W was contrite during 911, but during the Saddam Hussein years, he went back to the way his father acted, and denying when he got caught. Trump or Palin never have said sorry, but Bill Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Hillary and Obama felt people's pain. Biden doesnt, that's why he is caught up in Ukraine with Trump Russian probe.

I'm sure many mass shooters qualify as terrorists, and tons of them happen all the time. (They are usually Nihilists or Incels if they are white)
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« Reply #76 on: December 23, 2019, 04:02:12 AM »


Lulz.
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« Reply #77 on: December 23, 2019, 04:10:34 AM »

That he's not afraid to insult the elites and disparage the liberal establishment. He doesn't kowtow to the media unlike many other people but is willing to face them directly and call them out on their disgusting and reprehensible ways.
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« Reply #78 on: December 23, 2019, 05:42:09 AM »

Unpopular opinion: some of the Trump internet memes (especially reaction images and ones that aren't particularly political in nature) are pretty entertaining.
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« Reply #79 on: December 23, 2019, 09:18:52 AM »

He's had a positive influence on the Fed's monetary policy, which is actually quite important.
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« Reply #80 on: December 23, 2019, 10:48:22 AM »

He has zero redeeming qualities whatsoever.
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« Reply #81 on: December 23, 2019, 11:22:38 AM »

He'll soon suffer the rigors and other amenities of being a new fish in prison.
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« Reply #82 on: December 23, 2019, 01:58:14 PM »

He'll soon suffer the rigors and other amenities of being a new fish in prison.
Lol. More like Pelosi when she is imprisoned for treason.
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« Reply #83 on: December 23, 2019, 02:13:29 PM »

He'll soon suffer the rigors and other amenities of being a new fish in prison.
Lol. More like Pelosi when she is imprisoned for treason.

For what, exactly?  Opposing the President is not treason.
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« Reply #84 on: December 23, 2019, 02:24:07 PM »

I think Trump is right to point out that we are doing way more than our fair share to provide for the security of our allies. In general he's made me think a lot about liberal pacifism and internationalism, and to seriously ask whether we should approach geopolitics as a lone superpower or as one partner among many. I don't think the current projection of American military might worldwide can end anytime soon, but it's worth asking whether our allies can play a greater role.
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« Reply #85 on: December 23, 2019, 04:07:20 PM »

He'll soon suffer the rigors and other amenities of being a new fish in prison.
Lol. More like Pelosi when she is imprisoned for treason.

For what, exactly?  Opposing the President is not treason.
Wasting valuable government time and resources on witch hunt after witch hunt, and making Putin look like he's got USA on puppet strings. Whatever Putin asks, Nancy does. Lock her up.
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« Reply #86 on: December 23, 2019, 06:23:07 PM »

He'll soon suffer the rigors and other amenities of being a new fish in prison.
Lol. More like Pelosi when she is imprisoned for treason.

For what, exactly?  Opposing the President is not treason.
Wasting valuable government time and resources on witch hunt after witch hunt, and making Putin look like he's got USA on puppet strings. Whatever Putin asks, Nancy does. Lock her up.

OK, you've got to be trolling.
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« Reply #87 on: December 23, 2019, 09:09:20 PM »

He'll soon suffer the rigors and other amenities of being a new fish in prison.
Lol. More like Pelosi when she is imprisoned for treason.

For what, exactly?  Opposing the President is not treason.
Wasting valuable government time and resources on witch hunt after witch hunt, and making Putin look like he's got USA on puppet strings. Whatever Putin asks, Nancy does. Lock her up.

OK, you've got to be trolling.

Don't worry, he is. T'Chenka seems to have taken on an ironic persona.
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« Reply #88 on: December 23, 2019, 09:15:19 PM »

That he's not afraid to insult the elites and disparage the liberal establishment. He doesn't kowtow to the media unlike many other people but is willing to face them directly and call them out on their disgusting and reprehensible ways.
He's one of "the elites".
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« Reply #89 on: December 24, 2019, 10:42:07 PM »

That he's not afraid to insult the elites and disparage the liberal establishment. He doesn't kowtow to the media unlike many other people but is willing to face them directly and call them out on their disgusting and reprehensible ways.
He's one of "the elites".
So was FDR, but leftists adore him.
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« Reply #90 on: December 25, 2019, 12:13:06 AM »

That he's not afraid to insult the elites and disparage the liberal establishment. He doesn't kowtow to the media unlike many other people but is willing to face them directly and call them out on their disgusting and reprehensible ways.
He's one of "the elites".
So was FDR, but leftists adore him.
I don't.

Of course, when Annatar talks about "the elites", he might not be talking about wealth or power itself. He might be talking about something else entirely.
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« Reply #91 on: December 25, 2019, 12:41:26 AM »

That he's not afraid to insult the elites and disparage the liberal establishment. He doesn't kowtow to the media unlike many other people but is willing to face them directly and call them out on their disgusting and reprehensible ways.
He's one of "the elites".
So was FDR, but leftists adore him.
Devil's Advocate: Tony Stark was an elite prick, but he sacrificed a LOT for working class people.
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« Reply #92 on: December 25, 2019, 12:45:38 AM »

That he's not afraid to insult the elites and disparage the liberal establishment. He doesn't kowtow to the media unlike many other people but is willing to face them directly and call them out on their disgusting and reprehensible ways.
He's one of "the elites".
So was FDR, but leftists adore him.
I don't.

Of course, when Annatar talks about "the elites", he might not be talking about wealth or power itself. He might be talking about something else entirely.

In my view there are 2 types of elites, economic and cultural, the left doesn't like economic elites, and the right doesn't like cultural elites, of course there is overlap between these 2 groupings.

When I say Trump insults the elites, I mean the cultural elites, I have no issue with economic elites, it's cultural elites that have done more damage to America by undermining long running cultural norms and institutions.


Of course one could argue electorally that it would be best to attack both the cultural and economic elites simultaneously, basically populism on steroids, attacks all elites from all angles. That would be a true revolutionary movement but I don't see any politician today who would be willing to lead such a movement.
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« Reply #93 on: December 25, 2019, 12:50:45 AM »

When I say Trump insults the elites, I mean the cultural elites, I have no issue with economic elites, it's cultural elites that have done more damage to America by undermining long running cultural norms and institutions.
Are you talking about open borders, socialism and SJW feminism here, or are you talking about owning slaves letting women vote and tolerating homosexuslity?

I wanted to agree with you, but your statement is maybe too open to interpretation for that.
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« Reply #94 on: December 25, 2019, 12:54:16 AM »

That he's not afraid to insult the elites and disparage the liberal establishment. He doesn't kowtow to the media unlike many other people but is willing to face them directly and call them out on their disgusting and reprehensible ways.
He's one of "the elites".
So was FDR, but leftists adore him.
That's because FDR betrayed the elites in a way that Trump never did.
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« Reply #95 on: December 25, 2019, 04:35:25 AM »

When I say Trump insults the elites, I mean the cultural elites, I have no issue with economic elites, it's cultural elites that have done more damage to America by undermining long running cultural norms and institutions.
Are you talking about open borders, socialism and SJW feminism here, or are you talking about owning slaves letting women vote and tolerating homosexuslity?

I wanted to agree with you, but your statement is maybe too open to interpretation for that.

Obviously the former, why would I support having slaves, slavery ended in the 19th century and has no ethical basis, women can vote as well, I have no issue with that.
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« Reply #96 on: December 25, 2019, 10:50:21 AM »

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Trump has this quality in extreme excess.  It's the quality that triggers the libs the most.  Right when they think they "have him", he weathers the storm and either rights the ship, or lets loose with a salvo that sinks the enemy vessel.

Whatever you think about Trump, calling him "thin-skinned" is ridiculous.  He "takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'" more than any public figure I've ever seen, bar none.

Your counter on the thin-skin label is quite frankly absurd. Being thin-skinned has nothing to with resilience and everything to do with sensitivity to criticism. There hasn't been an insult or critique Trump has been able to turn the other cheek on throughout his life. He has plenty of exposed nerves that always trigger a reaction when hit.

Nobody is denying that the man is fueled by vicious quarreling and petty spite, but one of the main reasons he spends so much time verbally sparring with people is because he is incapable of ignoring any attack on his character, competency, or achievements.

That's textbook thin-skinned.

I've never seen someone under the perpetual attack that Trump has been under since he announced his candidacy for President, and certainly since he became the GOP front-runner some time in 2015.

I personally believe that, in private, Trump could care less as to what people think and say about him.  He is, however, a "brand message" guy, and he's crafted a brand that has created a new dominant faction of the GOP.  Trump appeals to them to keep the energy up for his campaign.  And he's done a good job of it. 

This is an aside, and it's only my opinion, but if Nixon had been more like Trump, he'd have ridden out impeachment, even though Nixon actually did commit Obstruction of Justice.  (For the purpose of this post, since the House Judiciary Committee has not charged Trump with Obstruction of Justice, I will state that Trump did not do so.)  If Nixon had channeled his inner Trump, he would have stated that those tapes were his, they contained privileged conversations, and he'd have burned them in a YUGE Bonfire on the White House Lawn, with select "Deplorables" invited from the entire country to toast marshmallows and make s'mores.  There would, at that time, been weeping and gnashing of teeth by Democratic liberals, there would have been the Censure of Nixon by the Congress (they'd have come up with that, perhaps), and there would have been the Congressional investigations, but there would have, in the end, been no impeachment.

Having lived through Watergate, I can tell you that the greater American public would have been behind Nixon had he chosen to destroy all of his tapes.  That would have ended much of what people blasted him for.  There would have been no Special Prosecutor, no impeachment inquiry; there would have been enough public support for Nixon's actions to where he would have gone through his entire term of office, and would have ranked higher in history than he does right now.  (Indeed, Nixon was considered by some as a GREAT President while active, mainly due to his handling of foreign policy.) 

I say this because in 1973, impeaching a President was not a casual step.  The Democrats had a majority in the House, but a number of them were reactionary conservative Southerners who were some of Nixon's most loyal supporters.  (Rep. Joe Waggoner (D-LA) wept when Nixon said he would resign.  Sen. James Eastland (D-MS) was with Nixon, crushed out his cigar, and stated, "You've been a damned good President!".  A national consensus for Nixon's removal from office would not have occurred without the tapes being made public that clearly showed Nixon, Haldeman, and Ehrlichmann talking about the cover-up and paying hush money.  It really did take all of that to make REMOVAL a certainty.
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« Reply #97 on: December 25, 2019, 12:10:31 PM »

1) good economy.

2) he is less war-mongerish than Republican Presidents tend to be.

3) his completely immoral lifestyle has destroyed any high ground the GOP usually has or claims to have, which has done more to destroy the conservative/evangelical movement and shift the culture away from them than any Democratic President could ever do.

4) he shifted a lot of state legislatures/governors to moderate democrats meaning that congress won't be as gerrymandered in favor of extremist Republicans in 2020-2030.
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« Reply #98 on: December 25, 2019, 06:44:48 PM »

A national consensus for Nixon's removal from office would not have occurred without the tapes being made public that clearly showed Nixon, Haldeman, and Ehrlichmann talking about the cover-up and paying hush money.  It really did take all of that to make REMOVAL a certainty.
Thankfully, the GOP won't be making that mistake again.
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« Reply #99 on: December 26, 2019, 12:21:27 AM »

Okay, here's a genuine political one: I liked that he rightfully called out the GOP's anti-city BS and pointing out their hypocrisy when it comes to using 9/11 as a political prop while constantly decrying "New York values."
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