S6: Southern Heritage Act (passed)

[Wisconsin+17]

Nev's Amendment rejected as hostile.  This bill is to protect confederate monuments and cemeteries.

[JustinTimeCuber]

I second NeverAgain's amendment.

[NeverAgain]

Nev's Amendment rejected as hostile.  This bill is to protect confederate monuments and cemeteries.

I see not how this doesn't do that. It protects all cemeteries, to treat all that have passed on in this War with equality.

[Wisconsin+17]

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Nev can't initiate motions in the delegates, as he's not a delegate. He can propose amendments, changes, etc, but whether they are taken up will depend on what the delegates choose.

[Wisconsin+17]

I'm calling for a vote on the final bill with fhtagn's amendment.

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[NeverAgain]

Can you address how you believe that my amendment does not address your beliefs and demands here.

I believe it really addresses my needs along with yours.

[Wisconsin+17]

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You can start by explaining why you find the word 'Confederate' to be pejorative.

[JustinTimeCuber]

I'm calling for a vote on the final bill with fhtagn's amendment.

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There's currently a seconded motion on the floor. Don't seconded motions matter?

[Wisconsin+17]

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As I said earlier:

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[JustinTimeCuber]

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As I said earlier:

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Fair enough. I sponsor NeverAgain's amendment.

[fhtagn]

Fair enough. I sponsor NeverAgain's amendment.

That's fine, but the current motion on the floor is Ben's motion for a final vote.

[fhtagn]

That being said, I second Ben Kenobi's motion and am bringing the bill to a 48 hour final vote as amended:

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[Wisconsin+17]

AYE

[fhtagn]

AYE

[White Trash]

AYE

[JustinTimeCuber]

I'm gonna be the stubborn guy here because I don't think the Stars and Bars flag should be honored at any time.

NAY

e: atlasing on your phone will punish you

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

AYE

[fhtagn]

With all delegates having voted, the Southern Heritage Act passes with 4 votes in favor and one against.

[Classic Conservative]

Huzzah!

[JustinTimeCuber]

Huzzah!

Yay! Now we finally as a region can start honoring the BAD parts of our past, like the Confederacy!

Pretty progressive, huh? Even got Ben on board!

[Wisconsin+17]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdzoIHJBGt0

[White Trash]

Huzzah!

Yay! Now we finally as a region can start honoring the BAD parts of our past, like the Confederacy!

Pretty progressive, huh? Even got Ben on board!

We should acknowledge and respect ALL parts of our history, the good and the bad. It is the good that we celebrate, and the bad we recognize having made us stronger.

[JustinTimeCuber]

Huzzah!

Yay! Now we finally as a region can start honoring the BAD parts of our past, like the Confederacy!

Pretty progressive, huh? Even got Ben on board!

We should acknowledge and respect ALL parts of our history, the good and the bad. It is the good that we celebrate, and the bad we recognize having made us stronger.

But should Germany fly a Nazi flag once a year? Yes, they should recognize that history so that they don't repeat it, and they SHOULD allow private citizens to fly that flag (even though that is of course an awful thing to do), but I don't think the government should be doing that.

[White Trash]

Huzzah!

Yay! Now we finally as a region can start honoring the BAD parts of our past, like the Confederacy!

Pretty progressive, huh? Even got Ben on board!

We should acknowledge and respect ALL parts of our history, the good and the bad. It is the good that we celebrate, and the bad we recognize having made us stronger.

But should Germany fly a Nazi flag once a year? Yes, they should recognize that history so that they don't repeat it, and they SHOULD allow private citizens to fly that flag (even though that is of course an awful thing to do), but I don't think the government should be doing that.

The difference is that the Confederate battle flag has been used as a symbol of the South for 150 years since 1861, while the flag of the NSDAP was only used for a very brief amount of time comparatively. For over a century now the stars and bars have been synonymous with the identity and unique culture of the South, something that the Swastika has never gained in regards to Germany.

[JustinTimeCuber]

Huzzah!

Yay! Now we finally as a region can start honoring the BAD parts of our past, like the Confederacy!

Pretty progressive, huh? Even got Ben on board!

We should acknowledge and respect ALL parts of our history, the good and the bad. It is the good that we celebrate, and the bad we recognize having made us stronger.

But should Germany fly a Nazi flag once a year? Yes, they should recognize that history so that they don't repeat it, and they SHOULD allow private citizens to fly that flag (even though that is of course an awful thing to do), but I don't think the government should be doing that.

The difference is that the Confederate battle flag has been used as a symbol of the South for 150 years since 1861, while the flag of the NSDAP was only used for a very brief amount of time comparatively. For over a century now the stars and bars have been synonymous with the identity and unique culture of the South, something that the Swastika has never gained in regards to Germany.

There are many regions in the general Southern area that reject the flag and don't identify with it, including much of Missouri, likely most parts of Maryland and Delaware, and I'm sure black enclaves in the Deep South don't view it positively. We shouldn't fly a flag that some people have a legitimate reason for calling a hate symbol on any day of the year.