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« on: April 30, 2017, 01:21:57 PM »
« edited: March 12, 2023, 02:09:34 PM by West_Midlander »


Alternate US History (1788 onwards)

July 1788: Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin set their sights on the presidency.
Mid July 1788: Anti-Federalists against Jefferson unify behind Samuel Adams. As Washington and Franklin take the lead, other Federalist candidates decide not to pursue the presidency.
August 1788: George Washington is far ahead until Benjamin Franklin begins campaigning across Pennsylvania. Gen. George Washington decides to leave his campaigning up to surrogates and supporters.
September 1788: Franklin campaigns on his foreign policy experience, shifting the political debate to the importance of establishing America diplomatically. John Jay endorses Benjamin Franklin.
October 1788: Franklin campaigns heavily in Virginia, Massachusetts and Pennsylvania. He also swings through the Northeast and visits Savannah, GA.

US Presidential Election, 1788
70 electoral votes to win

Gov. Benjamin Franklin (PA)62 EVs47.7%
State Sen. Samuel Adams (MA)51 EVs14.7%
Minister Thomas Jefferson (VA)18 EVs7.3%
Gen. George Washington (VA)7 EVs30.3%

No one has a majority of electors.


*As in OTL: NC, VA and RI had yet to ratify the Constitution (so they didn't get any electors).

15 November, 1788: The first House of Representatives is inaugurated shortly following Election Day to choose the President.
16 November, 1788: The House of Representatives selects Benjamin Franklin as President. Samuel Adams as runner up, is vice president-elect.
March 1789: The President's cabinet is inaugurated. Notably, Washington (he was 2nd, would have been VP w/o Electoral College) is selected as Secretary of War. Franklin selects John Jay (endorsed him for President) as Secretary of State. As in OTL, Alexander Hamilton is selected as Secretary of the Treasury.
17 April, 1790 President Franklin dies. VP Samuel Adams, an anti-federalist, assumes the office of President of the United States.
1790-1791 (Midterm elections) The Federalist majorities shrink, though they still dominate Congress.

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Feel free to offer suggestions, political or historical insight, alterations or to reply with your own timelines and election results from any time, 1788-2016 or into the future.

Who would you have supported in this 1788 election and why?
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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2017, 01:34:41 PM »

Welcome to the forum Smiley

I understand it'll be a summary of results, not a detailed timeline?
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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2017, 02:47:58 PM »
« Edited: June 06, 2017, 10:08:24 PM by Delegate West_Midlander (Labor-NC) »

Samuel Adams' presidency is seen as one of little accomplishments (due to a majority Federalist Congress).

George Washington, the hero of the American Revolution, had a progressively improving relationship with President Franklin after his appointment as Secretary of War and due to his lack of campaigning (ie. no negative campaigning between Washington and Franklin).

Samuel Adams declares that he has no intent to run for a term in his own right and the Democratic-Republicans unite behind Thomas Jefferson. John Adams, citing Washington's fourth place finish in 1788 (out of four major contenders; he did poorly, so shouldn't be the Federalists' standard bearer), runs for the presidency. Aaron Burr also throws his hat into the ring (mostly as a protest candidate, for the hope that Washington wouldn't win and appoint Alexander Hamilton to his administration).

US Presidential Election, 1792
133 electoral votes to win

Sec. George Washington (VA)132 EVs56.6%
Minister Thomas Jefferson (VA)67 EVs16.6%
Minister John Adams (MA)65 EVs22.4%
Sen. Aaron Burr (NY)0 EVs4.4%

No one has a majority of electors.



November 1792: New senatorships and representatives are added to the Congress. The Federalists hold the Senate by the same margin, four Senators. The House is Federalist by a decreased majority of three.

The House of Representatives chooses George Washington as President of the United States. Thomas Jefferson is his vice-president.
March 1793: In George Washington's inaugural address (letter) says he will honor and continue the legacy of Benjamin Franklin.
Major appointments:
Samuel Adams — Minister to Prussia
Alexander Hamilton — Treasury Secretary

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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2017, 05:48:48 PM »

Love this so far, I've actually done 3 projects on an alternate Presidential elections from 1788-2020. Wondering if you wanna brainstorm? Feel free to message me, I'd love to discuss with you the projects I've completed.
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2017, 01:13:10 PM »
« Edited: July 15, 2017, 10:20:55 AM by Delegate West_Midlander »

1794: The Federalists lose ground in Congress as a tie results in the Senate and the Democratic Republicans take a slim majority of two representatives in the House.

In the later part of his first term, Washington begins to be advised by Aaron Burr (who patched up his relationship with the President), to the dismay of Alexander Hamilton. Hamilton begins to be shut down by the President and his economic policies and Constitutional interpretation (loose interpretation) begins to shake off the support of Washington.

Alexander Hamilton is dismissed as Secretary of the Treasury after clashing with the President on a few occasions. Announcing a run for the New York governorship in February 1795, Hamilton wins his election that same year.

Alexander Hamilton announces a run for the Presidency, though he has limited support outside of New York. George Washington will run for a second term, as will the Democratic-Republican candidate and Vice President, Thomas Jefferson. Washington's dismissal of Hamilton over disagreements marks him as somewhat of a hothead. This lost support heads for Jefferson, turned off by the similarly belligerent, Hamilton. Jefferson is careful to not burn bridges with Washington because the election is close (and he may be GW's VP again).

US Presidential Election, 1796
140 electoral votes to win

Pres. George Washington (F-VA)76 EVs37.9%
VP Thomas Jefferson (DR-VA)67 EVs39.2%
Gov. Alexander Hamilton (F-NY)16 EVs22.9%

No one has a majority of electors.



Washington surrogates assemble outside the home of Virginia Democratic-Republican representatives. This continued activism results in their non-attendance to the US Congress which gives George Washington the presidency. Thomas Jefferson is the vice-president.

In his inaugural address, George Washington proclaims the liberty and governmental security (continuity and stability) of the Electoral College system.

After Congress begins its session, Washington begins pushing a bipartisan bill to allow the President to select his own Vice President, as opposed to the VP being the runner-up. The Democratic-Republicans, confident in a Jefferson win in 1800, or at least for Washington to not run for a third term (given President Franklin's very brief tenure), pass the bill in both houses of Congress.
While Washington reserves himself to tolerating his party opponent, Thomas Jefferson, as the Vice President for the next four years, he gladly signs the new measure.

Who would you have supported in this 1796 election and why?
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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2017, 09:40:16 AM »
« Edited: June 10, 2017, 09:50:40 AM by Delegate West_Midlander »

1798: Federalists hold their majority in the House, which grows by four, to a margin of six. The Democratic-Republicans take the formerly tied Senate by a margin of one.


United States Senate, 1798
16-15 (1 vacant)


United States House of Representatives, 1798
56-50

George Washington dies in 1799 (as in OTL). Vice President Thomas Jefferson is sworn in as President of the United States. In an attempt at bipartisanship, Thomas Jefferson taps Alexander Hamilton to be VP, to prove that the new administration is bipartisan. Hamilton quietly rejects this offer and continues as governor of New York.

James Madison, a fellow Virginian and father of the Democratic-Republican party, is chosen as Jefferson's VP. From day one, Thomas Jefferson's administration is in full swing (with a friendly majority in both congressional houses) and is increasingly popular.

The ousted Governor of New York, George Clinton takes a chance at the presidency, citing Jefferson's three failures to win the office in the past. John Adams emerges as the Federalist frontrunner, with the hero of the Revolution fallen. Alexander Hamilton takes another run at the presidency, as sitting Governor of New York.

US Presidential Election, 1800
139 electoral votes to win

Pres. Thomas Jefferson (DR-VA)102 EVs38.6%
Minister John Adams (F-MA)40 EVs39.2%
Fmr. Gov. George Clinton (DR-NY)16 EVs17.8%
Gov. Alexander Hamilton (F-NY)4 EVs18.1%

No one has a majority of electors.



Alexander Hamilton's popularity in New York is destroyed as George Clinton carries the state. There are massive calls for Clinton to return to the governorship (by running in the upcoming 1801 NY gubernatorial election).

The House of Representatives easily elects Jefferson. The Senate elects Madison as VP.

edit: will include 1800-1804 congressional on the next post
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2017, 02:30:51 PM »
« Edited: July 15, 2017, 10:40:06 AM by Delegate West_Midlander »

United States House of Representatives, 1800
68-38 Democratic-Republican Majority
United States Senate, 1800
22-10 Democratic-Republican Majority
United States House of Representatives, 1802
103-39 Democratic-Republican Majority
United States Senate, 1802
17-15 Democratic-Republican Majority (1 vacant)
United States House of Representatives, 1804
89-53 Democratic-Republican Majority
United States Senate, 1804
27-7 Federalist Majority
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2017, 05:03:36 PM »

How do the Republicans get so heavily thrashed in the Senate in 1804? I mean, I know that the Feds aren't as much of a rump party nowadays, but still.
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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2017, 11:33:30 PM »
« Edited: July 02, 2017, 11:54:07 PM by Delegate West_Midlander »

How do the Republicans get so heavily thrashed in the Senate in 1804? I mean, I know that the Feds aren't as much of a rump party nowadays, but still.
Good question!
Especially after the seemingly overreaching Louisiana Purchase of 1803, the party of Thomas Jefferson (the Democratic-Republicans) get ripped by states righters' (in US state legislatures) in 1804 (Electorally, such a thrashing would be unlikely, esp. such a quick shift, but w/o the direct election of Senators yet, I think it's possible).
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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2017, 11:31:00 PM »

1803
The Louisiana Territory is purchased, along with French Guiana, all French possessions (islands) in the Caribbean and Saint Pierre and Miquelon (to the dismay of the UK) for a sum of $20 million.
United States Presidential Election, 1804

The Louisiana Purchase proves unpopular for the charismatic Jefferson, he loses by a small PV margin in a major upset. Fmr. Rep. Henry Lee III and Fmr. Sen. Gouverneur Morris are President and Vice President.
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2017, 01:01:23 PM »
« Edited: April 11, 2018, 08:22:43 AM by West_Midlander »

United States House of Representatives, 1806
87-55 Democratic-Republican Majority
The Democratic-Republicans lose two seats.
United States Senate, 1806
24-10 Federalist Majority
The Federalists lose three net seats.
United States House of Representatives, 1808
94-48 Democratic-Republican Majority
The Democratic-Republicans make gains.
United States Senate, 1808
27-10 Democratic-Republican Majority (1 vacant)
The Democratic-Republicans retake the Senate by large margins as the Federalists lose the presidency.
United States Presidential Election, 1808

The former President Thomas Jefferson is re-elected by a considerable margin. Chief Justice John Marshall resigned the Chief Justiceship while running for president but maintained his position as a SCOTUS Justice.

Marshall was unanimously chosen for the Federalist ticket after President Henry Lee III decided against running for a second term.

Thomas Jefferson decided to reinstate Marshall as Chief Justice as an act of good faith, across the political aisle. As a result, Marshall (in an unofficial agreement) will not obstruct Jefferson's signed bills without extreme warranted need to obstruct those bills on the basis of unconstitutionality.

As another act of bipartisanship, Former President Henry Lee III is appointed as Ambassador to France by Jefferson. Lee accepts. The Lees move to France and are enraptured by the parallel of French aristocracy with Southern aristocracy (old money, Southern belles and such). Henry Lee III has a long tenure as French Ambassador and the family stays there, even after that.

Henry Lee III's son, Robert E. Lee (Gen. Robert E. Lee in OTL) stays in France for the entirety of his life. As a result, the Confederacy has a severe lack of dominant, capable military leadership following the death of Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson on 10 May, 1863 (death is the same as in OTL). As a result, the Civil War ends a few weeks earlier than in OTL, but is in a stalemate from early 1864, until the end of the war, following considerable Confederate loss of territory from May 1863-January 1864. As a result, the American Civil War is way less bloody and General Sherman's scorched earth tactics are never actualized.

The running mates were Fmr. VP (under Thomas Jefferson, 1801-1805) James Madison (D-R) and Fmr. Minister to France, Charles C. Pinckney (F)
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2017, 01:50:41 PM »
« Edited: April 11, 2018, 08:26:18 AM by West_Midlander »

United States House of Representatives, 1810
107-36 Democratic-Republican Majority
United States Senate, 1810
28-6 Democratic-Republican Majority
United States House of Representatives, 1812
109-34 Democratic-Republican Majority
United States Senate, 1812
28-6 Democratic-Republican Majority
The Federalist Party machinery stops a popular DeWitt Clinton candidacy, as a result he makes a run at the presidency as an Independent. Another Federalist, Jared Ingersoll, A.G. of Pennsylvania, joins Mayor of NYC, Dewitt Clinton on the ticket.

The Federalists field Fmr. Minister to the UK, Rufus King alongside Fmr. US Senate President pro-tempore (out of office since 1800), John Eager Howard, as the vice-presidential candidate.

James Madison, wishing to serve as SoS, is replaced by Fmr. Sen. Henry Clay as Jefferson's VP candidate.

The War of 1812 erupts and the Federalists' anti-war stance proves immensely unpopular. The race is a tossup between Clinton and Jefferson. Southern militia forces meet the British at DC (marching up to Canada) and deflect an assault on the capital. The White House is not burned down. The US wins a considerable victory at the Battle of Queenston Heights followed by an occupation of Southern Ontario, and New Brunswick. American forces are at the gates of a desperate Ottawa by Election Day. As a result, Jefferson wins by a large 12% margin.
United States Presidential Election, 1812

The war ends before Jefferson is sworn in for his third term, following a lengthy ceasefire and negotiation period. The US gains some cessions. (A small part of Southern Ontario, part of New Brunswick, and the OTL British Cession of 1818) The US never cedes the IRL Cession of 1818 (to Britain) and gains considerable claim (recognized by Britain) to Western Canada. Saint Pierre and Miquelon is given to the UK, who promises to respect US shipping, fishing, etc.
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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2017, 10:37:03 AM »

United States House of Representatives, 1814
119-64 Democratic-Republican Majority
United States Senate, 1814
22-11 Democratic-Republican Majority (1 vacant)
United States House of Representatives, 1816
160-26 Democratic-Republican Majority
United States Senate, 1816
30-9 Democratic-Republican Majority (1 vacant)
United States Presidential Election, 1816
The Jeffersonian Period brings on an Era of Good Feelings, and with that a lack of serious opposition in Congress.

The Federalists, out of the White House for eight years, field eager US Rep. Daniel Webster, who called out Jefferson as being a "No-Accomplishment President" from 1813-1816. This ruins Webster's future Senate career in OTL. His VP pick is US Senator from Connecticut, Samuel Whittlesey Dana.

DeWitt Clinton runs again and is written off as a perennial candidate. His VP pick is Mayor of Albany, Philip S. Van Rensselaer. The Independent ticket is viewed as a New York Elitist ticket.

The Democratic-Republicans renominate Jefferson/Clay.

Jefferson wins a PV landslide and EV unanimity. Henry Clay is re-elected as Vice President.
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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2017, 11:07:03 AM »

My God, Jefferson must be getting tired of this soon. This is his fourth term! Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2017, 03:27:48 PM »

My God, Jefferson must be getting tired of this soon. This is his fourth term! Tongue
Yep, he's FDRing it!
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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2017, 09:14:01 AM »

United States House of Representatives, 1818
189-24 Democratic-Republican Majority
United States Senate, 1818
30-9 Democratic-Republican Majority (1 vacant)
United States House of Representatives, 1820
87-71 Federalist Majority
United States Senate, 1820
44-3 Democratic-Republican Majority (1 vacant)
Thomas Jefferson retires from politics. The Democratic-Republicans lose the presidency in 1820 and the House along with it. Staunch Jeffersonians get an iron grip over state governorships, state legislatures and hold a huge majority in the Senate, as a result. (Jackson's "Democrats" were formed late in the campaign season and were unable to contest, largely or successfully, House seats, or to garner any Senate seats due to a lack of office-holders on the state level).

The Democratic-Republican Convention is in disarray, and there's no winner after many votes, they decide not to contest the presidency in 1820.

Andrew Jackson forms a new party, "The Democratic Party." He fields John C. Calhoun as his vice-presidential nominee. Rufus King runs as a Federalist (again), this time with John Jay as his running mate.
United States Presidential Election, 1820

Rufus King and John Jay are President and Vice President-elect. Jackson's campaign was lost because of a lack of infrastructure. It was viewed as a protest party/candidacy against the maintenance of the dominant liberal (Jeffersonian) wing of the Democratic-Republicans.
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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2017, 09:53:03 AM »
« Edited: July 16, 2017, 02:39:56 PM by Delegate West_Midlander »

United States House of Representatives, 1822
90-68 Federalist Majority
United States Senate, 1822
28-20 Democratic-Republican Majority

United States Presidential Election, 1824

King/Jay contest the election as the Federalist ticket. DeWitt Clinton runs again, as an Independent, he does well due to former Democratic-Republican, PA Gov. John Andrew Shulze, running alongside him. Jackson/Calhoun emerges as a narrow winner at the Democratic Convention, Martin van Buren announces in the Convention hall that he will run as "Independent Democratic" and field Treasury Sec'y, William Crawford as his VP nominee.

There is no EV winner, King and van Buren throw their support behind Jackson (King reluctantly). DeWitt Clinton, who left the Democratic-Republicans to run as and Independent multiple times, is abandoned by Jeffersonians in Congress, who vastly abstain. Jackson is elected by the House and Calhoun is elected by the Senate.

The Democratic-Republican Party becomes the "Jeffersonian Party" and staunchly anti-Jackson.
United States House of Representatives, 1824
109-104 (Jeffersonian-Democratic) Jeffersonian Majority
United States Senate, 1824
43-25-10 (Jeffersonian-Democratic-Federalist) Jeffersonian Majority
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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2017, 01:39:43 PM »

So the House and Senate traded sized for some reason?
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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2017, 02:39:34 PM »

So the House and Senate traded sized for some reason?
Lol. typo.
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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2017, 03:15:26 PM »
« Edited: November 18, 2017, 10:11:08 AM by West_Midlander »

President Jackson makes his priority white settlement of the Eastern United States. The Trail of Tears is initiated earlier than in OTL. Worcester v. Georgia takes place February 20 to March 23 1825, as opposed to 1832. The ruling is the same as in OTL, the Marshall Court rules against the State of Georgia and Indian Removal.

"John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!"
— President Andrew Jackson

Andrew Jackson is impeached by the Jeffersonian House and convicted and removed from office by the Jeffersonian Senate. The charge was for ignoring the SCOTUS (Worcester v. Georgia) and for implementing the spoils system, which rewarded political backers with public office (abuse of authority, unbecoming conduct and bribery).

Vice President John C. Calhoun is sworn in as President of the United States in 1825.

Behind closed doors, an agreement is reached in which Calhoun expands American Indian Reservations (land area) and provides for state and federal oversight to manage and supply the reservations well. As a result, the Jeffersonian Congress will not pursue charges on Calhoun and will pass a constitutional amendment (IRL, the 25th amendment) allowing for persons who succeed the office of President to nominate a Vice President who will be approved by the Congress Senate.

The Jeffersonians get credit for voting in favor of the nomination of Federalist, Fmr. Pres. Rufus King, to the Office of Vice President. Speaker of the House, John W. Taylor (Jeffersonian) & Jeffersonian Senate Leader, John Quincy Adams (never left the Senate in 1808 ITTL, got re-elected 4 times) had each recieved an offer of a Cabinet position should Calhoun win the 1828 election, if they agreed to push through King's nomination (to make Calhoun look bipartisan in a time of national crisis).

EDIT: Decided to clarify, the OTL 25th amendment passing earlier allows the new VP to be confirmed by the Senate. I thought 'Congress' was too ambiguous.
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« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2017, 03:33:05 PM »
« Edited: July 17, 2017, 02:45:26 PM by Delegate West_Midlander »

United States House of Representatives, 1826
113-110 Democratic Fusion (Democratic+Federalist) Majority
United States Senate, 1826
27-19 Democratic Fusion (Democratic+Federalist) Majority
The Jeffersonians are pushed into the minority in both houses of Congress. Democrats & Federalists pull out a small victory, with Jeffersonian Congressional leadership under scrutiny for impeaching the popular President Jackson.

1827: Vice President Rufus King dies (as in OTL). Martin van Buren is appointed & approved as Vice President.

Calhoun/van Buren are the Democratic Nominees. John Quincy Adams and John W. Taylor endorse Calhoun for President.

The Jeffersonian Party is dissolved and most supporters fall behind National Republican, Fmr. VP Henry Clay (though there are many defections to Calhoun). Clay fields popular Rhode Island Governor, James Fenner as his running mate.

William Writ and George Hay (federal judge) form a double-Virginia Anti-Masonic ticket.

The Federalists decide not to nominate an opponent to Calhoun.
United States Presidential Election, 1828

Major nominations:
Secretary of the Interior — James Fenner (Clay's running mate is given a cabinet position as a sign of good will)
Secretary of State — Senator (Fmr. Majority Leader) John Quincy Adams
Secretary of the Treasury — Representative (Fmr. Speaker) John W. Taylor
*John Quincy Adams and John W. Taylor did not retain leadership positions in the Jeffersonian, then National Republican Party due to endorsing and colluding with President Calhoun.

Calhoun gets credit for appointing Adams and Taylor each to a significant cabinet position, despite partisan differences (they were Jeffersonians & are now National Republicans).
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« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2017, 02:41:57 PM »

Sorry for screwing up the dates. It's in order now Tongue
United States House of Representatives, 1828
113-110 Democratic Majority (Democratic-National Republican)
United States Senate, 1828
26-22 Democratic Majority
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« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2017, 02:58:57 PM »
« Edited: April 11, 2018, 08:38:37 AM by West_Midlander »

30 December 1829 (folks set out to travel after Christmas) Federalist convention in Baltimore, Maryland convenes. The party is in a state of crisis, having been out of Congress ever since fusion with the Democrats (only lasted for the 1826 midterms but Democrats had a foothold and the Federalists had none, after that).

4 January 1830: The Federalists vote to dissolve the party.

4 July 1830: Clay announces the dissolution of the National Republican Party. He forms the Whig party (which takes its place as the Democrats' main opposition).

United States House of Representatives, 1830
136-72-5 Democratic Majority
United States Senate, 1830
26-20-2 Democratic Majority
The newly formed Whig party, formed without political infrastructure and only beginning to run candidates a few months before the election, face massive losses. The Nullifier faction takes the two Senate seats from South Carolina. The Anti-Masonic faction takes five seats in the House.

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« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2017, 03:20:42 PM »

William Henry Harrison refuses to not run as a National Republican. Eventually the compromise is reached that he will run as a National Republican, and endorse Whig congressional efforts, and Whigs will support him in the Presidential election. Andre B. Roman, Whig Governor of Louisiana is chosen as Harrison's running mate.

The Democrats nominate Martin van Buren. John C. Calhoun endorses & campaigns for van Buren. Democratic Senator from Pennsylvania, George M. Dallas is Martin van Buren's running mate.

Virginia A.G. William Wirt (different occupation from IRL) & Fmr. Vermont Governor Ezra Butler run on the Anti-Masonic ticket.

The Nullifiers nominate VA Governor John Floyd and SC Governor James Hamilton Jr.

United States Presidential Election, 1832

The Democrats' attempt at a Northern breakthrough starts and stops with Pennsylvania.

The Nullfiiers focus on the home of nullification, South Carolina, which they win.

The popular Governor who left office only two years ago, Ezra Butler (AM-VT), pulls out Vermont for his party.

Harrison attempts a Southern breakthrough by running alongside Gov. Roman (W-LA). The still popular, Andrew Jackson (pardoned by John C. Calhoun) endorses and campaigns for Martin van Buren, but his never being the hero of New Orleans (War of 1812 ended quicker than in OTL), the National Republicans pull the state out, but aren't successful elsewhere in the South.
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« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2017, 05:51:38 PM »
« Edited: July 21, 2017, 07:40:30 PM by Delegate West_Midlander »

United States Senate, 1832
23-21-2 Whig Majority (Whig-Democratic-Nullifier)
United States House of Representatives, 1832
126-66-17-4 Democratic Majority (Democratic-Whig-AntiMasonic-Nullifier)

(I should've included this in the previous post)

Anti-Masonic takes more House seats than the Nullifiers due to a larger share of the popular vote (in the Presidential Election of 1832).

Martin van Buren won a PV plurality, so the House remains Democratic. Van Buren did much worse than Democratic House candidates (all together; large Democratic majority) due to a lack of popular support for him, personally (Calhoun & Jackson pushed van Buren through the convention as their successor).
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