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JustinTimeCuber
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« on: April 24, 2017, 11:23:47 PM »

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JustinTimeCuber
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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2017, 11:31:29 PM »

The rules are pretty clear. The vote to extend debate was sustained within the time limit of the vote.

Ergo, Bill S3 is still alive. Fhtagn is certainly free to attempt to break the rules, but that has consequences.

This is not the first time that fhtagn has broken rules to override sustained opposition. Perhaps she should ask herself why she's getting sustained opposition.
Absolutely nothing in the rules about that.

I believe fhtagn can continue her operation as Speaker unless she is actually determined to not have the confidence of the Chamber, which isn't going to happen.
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JustinTimeCuber
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2017, 11:35:00 PM »

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Right now she can't until this is debated and voted on. Standard is 48 hours for discussion 24 hours to vote on this.
Says who? She hasn't been removed from her office as Speaker.
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JustinTimeCuber
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2017, 11:40:23 PM »

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Motions of non-confidence have the highest priority. As well they should. Until the motion of non-confidence is disposed of, the rest of the business of the chamber cannot continue.

The reason for this is because, that's the whole point of a motion of non-confidence. If it passes, then the government falls. If it fails, then business carries on.
YOU ARE MAKING THIS UP AS YOU GO ALONG
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JustinTimeCuber
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2017, 11:48:22 PM »

the rest of the business of the chamber cannot continue.

Which is clearly what you wanted all along. You made that pretty clear many times.

At least you finally got the courage to admit it.
I'm starting to think we need to recall him, but I'm waiting for NeverAgain's opinion on the matter.
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JustinTimeCuber
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2017, 12:13:33 AM »

If the vote is called and two delegates want to continue discussing the topic, then I don't see what is the problem with a motion to extend.

When I was Speaker, Nev asked for more time on two bills, both of which I granted the requested time (indeed, I gave him an extra day). After that day I called for the vote, which was then held.

Fhtagn called the vote here I came on and asked to get more input from Fremont, to extend for a day and then hold the vote. If I were asking for an indefinite period, then yes, I can see the issue. But I was not.



You were trying to rush through that bill, because you barely have 3 days even when there was legitimate discussion.
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JustinTimeCuber
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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2017, 11:23:24 PM »
« Edited: April 27, 2017, 11:26:35 PM by Delegate JustinTimeCuber »

Since we've all had a chance to discuss, I'm calling a 24 hour vote on Speaker fhtagn.
Your motion was not seconded.

Just for fun, I vote no on this unsubstantiated motion.
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JustinTimeCuber
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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2017, 11:29:56 PM »

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Seconders matter now? I thought that was the whole point here.
Yes, a motion needs a second to be considered, so...
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JustinTimeCuber
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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2017, 11:57:45 PM »

Fhtagn ignores out of order motion

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JustinTimeCuber
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2017, 12:06:30 AM »

Kenobi, almost no Fremont citizens would have been okay with the Go West Young Man Act, and you're well aware of it. You've been aware this whole time that none of your bills will probably get passed; you're only doing this to waste valuable time because you're afraid of Labor passing its agenda. This is a total abuse of your power as a legislator and a pathetic attention seeking move by an extremely partisan person who can't handle the fact that the other party has a majority and therefore the right to create bills. We have all grown tired of this, and I look forward to watching you lose in a landslide in next month's election.
If someone else starts a petition to recall him I'd probably sign it but I don't think I should be starting such a petition.
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