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Antonio the Sixth
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« on: April 23, 2017, 11:48:44 AM »
It doesn't really say anything meaningful about the results, but I'm glad turnout seems to be holding up, as a matter of principle.
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2017, 12:47:01 PM »
I'm looking at France2 here: http://us.wiiz.tv/watch-regarder_france2-live.html

14 minutes to go!
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2017, 01:01:13 PM »
Boring.
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2017, 01:02:16 PM »
oh christ hamon at 6%
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2017, 01:07:02 PM »
Quote from: Çråbçæk on April 23, 2017, 01:04:31 PM

At least he passed the five percent threshold so PS won't go bankrupt.

yippee f**king yay
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2017, 01:13:28 PM »
Every time the PS nominates a good person for President, they lose. I guess that's a clear message from the voters.
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2017, 01:16:08 PM »
I don't care. I'm so proud to be in the 6% who made the right choice. The 94% can go screw themselves.
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2017, 01:18:05 PM »
LFA spokeswoman on France 2 claims Mélenchon can still make it through the big city vote. Of course that's bullsh*t.
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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2017, 01:20:41 PM »
Quote from: New Canadaland on April 23, 2017, 01:19:03 PM
Quote from: AMA IL TUO PRESIDENTE! on April 23, 2017, 01:18:05 PM
LFA spokeswoman on France 2 claims Mélenchon can still make it through the big city vote. Of course that's bullsh*t.
Are the exit polls that precise? Only 2 points seperate the JLM and Le Pen in some exit polls.

8pm projections are usually spot on.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2017, 01:25:09 PM »
God Gérard Collomb is a piece of sh*t. I hate FBM and I hate his supporters. I can't believe I'm going to vote for these technocratic neoliberal sh*theads.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2017, 01:29:40 PM »
Collomb: "We should all work together for reforms" Smiley Smiley Smiley Go f**k yourself...
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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2017, 01:32:45 PM »
Quote from: Fearless Leader X on April 23, 2017, 01:30:41 PM
Quote from: Kalwejt on April 23, 2017, 01:26:38 PM
Quote from: Fearless Leader X on April 23, 2017, 01:25:23 PM
Quote from: AMA IL TUO PRESIDENTE! on April 23, 2017, 01:16:08 PM
I don't care. I'm so proud to be in the 6% who made the right choice. The 94% can go screw themselves.

"I don't care.  I'm proud to be in the 1% who made the right choice.  The 99% can go screw themselves." - every Jill Stein voter

This is a very stupid comparision. France had two-rounds voting system.

Not really given that there was some real uncertainty about whether Macron (the only pro-EU candidate) was going to make it to the run-off.  What matters most in this election is that France chooses a pro-EU candidate and Macron was the only electable one.

Sorry, I'm not going to vote for a f**king neoliberal investment banker piece of sh*t just because he's ~pro-EU~ Smiley Smiley Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2017, 01:36:11 PM »
Quote from: Maxwell on April 23, 2017, 01:35:15 PM
also yeah I'm thinking similar to Al on the results - bad but not the worst.

Well, yeah. At least I'm ready to hold my nose and cast a vote for FBM.
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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2017, 01:42:46 PM »
Fillon speaking.
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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2017, 01:44:33 PM »
Fillon endorses FBM.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2017, 01:45:47 PM »
Quote from: #TheShadowyAbyss on April 23, 2017, 01:41:56 PM
Le Pen doing very well in Northern France, many places getting upper 40's and doing well in the East.

Where are you seeing geographic results?
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2017, 01:51:32 PM »
Quote from: New Canadaland on April 23, 2017, 01:49:47 PM
Lassalle is winning communes in Pyrénées-Atlantiques? Is that supposed to happen? https://www.lefigaro.fr/elections/resultats/pyrenees-atlantiques-64/

Of course it is.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2017, 01:53:40 PM »
God, the Pas-de-Calais map is terrifying.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2017, 02:01:31 PM »
Quote from: Çråbçæk on April 23, 2017, 01:58:50 PM
Quote from: Vosem on April 23, 2017, 01:57:27 PM
Quote from: Klartext89 on April 23, 2017, 01:52:23 PM
The only conservative thing about these "conservatives" in Europe is going to church on Christmas. LMAO, what a bunch of traitors but so many honest righ-wing people are falling for it...

Whatever, not bad for LePen to have the whole Establishment against her. Makes it easier to get the 40% I rate as a success.

The only honest rightism supports the freedom of trade and movement. Protectionism and restrictions are characteristics of far-leftist regimes.

The only consistent feature of rightist throughout history is nationalism.

Bullsh*t. The only consistent feature of rightists throughout history is supporting the rich and powerful.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2017, 06:55:34 PM »
This map is hilarious/horrifying. The Realignment is real.
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« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2017, 07:02:03 PM »
Quote from: Technocratic Timmy on April 23, 2017, 06:59:09 PM
Quote from: En Marche Forcée on April 23, 2017, 06:55:34 PM
This map is hilarious/horrifying. The Realignment is real.

What's the realignment? I don't known French politics well.

Places like Vendée and Haut-de-Seine voting for the de facto "left-wing" candidate while doing terribly every working class area.
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E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2017, 07:24:58 PM »
Quote from: Technocratic Timmy on April 23, 2017, 07:03:38 PM
Quote from: En Marche Forcée on April 23, 2017, 07:02:03 PM
Quote from: Technocratic Timmy on April 23, 2017, 06:59:09 PM
Quote from: En Marche Forcée on April 23, 2017, 06:55:34 PM
This map is hilarious/horrifying. The Realignment is real.

What's the realignment? I don't known French politics well.

Places like Vendée and Haut-de-Seine voting for the de facto "left-wing" candidate while doing terribly every working class area.

I see. Could this just be a short term trend due to Hollande's unpopularity and the French left going into this election with a huge handicap?

We'll see if the French left survives the next year or so. If it survives, it will have to be in opposition to FBM.
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E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2017, 07:41:56 PM »
« Edited: April 23, 2017, 07:43:42 PM by En Marche Forcée »
Quote from: Sibboleth on April 23, 2017, 07:10:50 PM
Quote from: En Marche Forcée on April 23, 2017, 07:02:03 PM
Places like Vendée and Haut-de-Seine voting for the de facto "left-wing" candidate while doing terribly every working class area.

Not sure if it makes sense to think of Macron in such terms. He's the latest centrist huckster, except that in its current incarnation centrist hucksterism takes a higher share from the left than in its previous one (but not all previous ones).

Of course FBM is not left-wing, but most of his voters clearly are.
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« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2017, 07:44:40 PM »
Quote from: BaldEagle1991 on April 23, 2017, 07:30:22 PM
So what's the West Virginia/Alabama of France?

What a weird question, since West Virginia and Alabama have very different political histories.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2017, 09:16:03 PM »
Quote from: TheDeadFlagBlues on April 23, 2017, 09:03:44 PM
The takes in this thread are very, very bad. For all of the talk of Le Pen's magnificent performance among the working class and RE-ALIGNMENT, what has been missed is that this only really occurred in a few departments (Nord and Pas-de-Calais) and that both Macron and Melenchon were a non-negligible presence in every working class community.

I mean, if that's enough to make you happy, good for you.
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