France 2017: Results Thread

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MACRON 2k17! Europe has been saved today

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Hâmon endorsed Macron.

Good, that increases my approval of him.

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Results are coming in fast.

I don't see any results on the site.

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Fillon is speaking out against Le Pen, and will vote for Macron!

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This election, as well as comments here, make it clear that the far left is as worst as the far right.

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Le Pen's man says "Make France Great Again". Lol, stop trying.

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Wow, Hydera is a huge troll.


Anyway, is there any sort of chance Le Pen could win? Sure this won't be a 2002 redux?

Only if the polls are 20 points off in favor of Le Pen, because Macron has had a lead of around that in second round polling. The polls were pretty good for the first round, too.

I mean, 15 days is a lifetime in politics. Anything can happen. Maybe Wikileaks will pull something out of their ass to help the white nationalist candidate.

Yeah, that's my fear. The Pro-Putin white supremacist forces of the world are united around Le Pen

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  If NDA hadn't run, where would his voters have gone? Some to Fillon, some abstention, some to Le Pen and some to Macron, but any change to overall outcome? Could Fillon have overtaken Le Pen?

If he did run and dropped out to endorse Fillon, maybe. If he just didn't run though, i think Fillon wouldn't get enough voters from it.

Also, gotta say... The Green candidate who dropped out and endorsed Hamon must be really, really, really regretting it.

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good to see, even a country living in constant danger like israel realizes that le pen is a whole different animal even than wilders.

The fact that LePen is an anti-semitic Holocaust denier would tend to suppress her vote among French citizens living in Israel...for some strange reason

I actually feared the opposite tbh. Many here fall to the trap of "muh strong leader".

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and Assange suggested he got something on Macron in February
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/assange-says-he-has-dirt-french-candidate-emmanuel-macron-rumours-homosexual-affair-swirl-1605925


this is going to be disgusting.

They're not even trying to hide it anymore- this is a war between Putin-supported populist-nationalism and the western values. Supporting Le Pen is opposing democratic values.

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The survey only includes the following options:

* vote for Macron
* vote invalid
* stay at home

No "vote for Le Pen" option.

Via Le Monde.

Encouraging abstention, the disease crippling democracies... I'd rather he had a Le Pen option, to be honest.

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Since learning that Dupont would seemingly become PM under miss president, i looked into his stands a little bit....typical "anti-zionist" rhetoric.

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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4955393,00.html

How is this anti-Zionist rhetoric? He is saying black on white Israelis have the same legitimacy to the land as the Arabs.
He is actually adhering to Gaullist principles for once...

And also, this has nothing to do with his alliance with Panzergirl, nor with the revisionism and anti-semitism of the more extremist elements of the FN in past years.

Putting a democratic state and Hamas on the same level is definitely anti-zionist. Also, he's clearly opposing allowing Israel to defend itself.

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Anyway,
Nicolas Dupont Aignan isn't a bright politician, and this move is dumb by him, as expected.

Le Pen just made a political coup with him though.

To be honest, politically, this move could be his only shot at an important position. It could just as likely destroy his dignity for the years to come, though.

And while your at it, post the death toll so everybody can evaluate what defending yourself constitutes in terms of collateral damage. Let's see your version of equity.

Death toll is no way to measure these things. You could just as easily argue that the war against ISIS is unjust with that logic. Anyway, this is not the thread to discuss Israel's right for self-defence, I'm sure it'll come up... quite a few times in the future.

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It's time for the western intelligence organizations to start acting against Russian hackers, including Wikileaks, in all means necessary. It's a dangerous criminal organization by now.

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2nd round vote by 1st round voters:

I really want to get into the head of the 1% first round Macron voters who went Le Pen.
Also, En Marche!!!

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You know what guys, I think Macron is going to fall apart like all the centrist candidates in the past. Look at Barre or Balladur or Bayrou, no way he makes it. People want economic leftism, not a banker candidate

valls can still win