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heatcharger
Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
E: -1.04, S: -0.24

« on: April 23, 2017, 02:04:17 PM »

In election after election across the West, the Left has collapsed and the Right has either collapsed or adapted itself to the Far-Right. Each election has shown the "new left" being composed of white collar and minority, neoliberal, globalists against working and middle class nationalists. This does not bode well for those of us who support a Left detached from neoliberalism.

I understand your frustration I really do.

But just remember that this wave of populism had been 30-35 years in the making. Rright now it's more centered towards the right wing; but plenty of left wing populist movements are either forming or thriving. If the right wing populists either fail to win power or enact serious positive change then you'll see the next global phase be geared towards populist leftism.
No, that won't happen, unless these populist leftists oppose multiculturalism and immigration. The "economic anxiety" nonsense isn't worth much. People just don't want to live in a multicultural country.

Some leftists don't want to accept this.
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heatcharger
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,359
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Political Matrix
E: -1.04, S: -0.24

« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2017, 03:24:12 PM »

Ipsos snap poll has it as Macron 62 Le Pen 38 for second round.

Fillon voters:

43% Macron
17% Le Pen
40% No preference
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heatcharger
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,359
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Political Matrix
E: -1.04, S: -0.24

« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2017, 05:18:25 PM »

More from that Ipsos poll for second round voting:



Can't read French, but I'm pretty sure that table with the red banner shows the preferences of Mélenchon, Hamon, and Fillon voters. According to this, Le Pen isn't drawing too much support from Mélenchon voters as it was hypothesized.
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heatcharger
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,359
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Political Matrix
E: -1.04, S: -0.24

« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2017, 06:12:37 PM »

From 45.97m voters (95.56%): Macron 23.82%, Le Pen 21.58%, Fillon 19.97%,
Melenchon 19.48%

Where is your link to this.  The links I follow

http://presidentielle.lepoint.fr/

http://www.repubblica.it/static/speciale/2017/elezioni/francia/?refresh_cens

all seems to have counts that are around high 80s in terms of votes counted.

https://twitter.com/GeraldineAmiel

And she's getting the results from the French Interior Ministry press room, who gets the results first.
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heatcharger
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,359
Sweden


Political Matrix
E: -1.04, S: -0.24

« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2017, 10:37:18 PM »

This is obviously beyong stupid and classic alt-right nonsense, but do French people even care about affairs?
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heatcharger
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,359
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Political Matrix
E: -1.04, S: -0.24

« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2017, 12:13:09 PM »


NY Times
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heatcharger
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,359
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Political Matrix
E: -1.04, S: -0.24

« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2017, 01:40:54 PM »

Let's hope En Marche can get a majority next month.
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heatcharger
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,359
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Political Matrix
E: -1.04, S: -0.24

« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2017, 01:58:59 PM »

jaichind is nowhere to be seen.
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heatcharger
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,359
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Political Matrix
E: -1.04, S: -0.24

« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2017, 02:26:43 PM »

More election data:

Vote by age and sex


Wow. France's olds are huge FFs!
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heatcharger
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,359
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Political Matrix
E: -1.04, S: -0.24

« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2017, 02:53:09 PM »

What's up with Aisne swinging hard right? Hollande won it by 5 points but Le Pen leads by 11, but there's still a lot of vote to count.
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heatcharger
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,359
Sweden


Political Matrix
E: -1.04, S: -0.24

« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2017, 03:02:41 PM »

What's up with Aisne swinging hard right? Hollande won it by 5 points but Le Pen leads by 11, but there's still a lot of vote to count.

This runoff is not between the left and the right.

I'm just trying to understand why the only three departments Le Pen is currently leading in also happen to be places where Hollande won.
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