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« on: April 24, 2017, 04:13:45 PM »


This is like the questions about why Sanders supporters didn't just go over to Trump. Melenchon voters care about economic reforms and opposition to (what they see as) racism; the European Union and liberalism, for these guys, are unimportant issues that it's acceptable to negotiate over. A decent number of them voted Hollande '12, and Melenchon held back from saying he wanted to leave the EU (talking about NATO instead).

Ultimately, the problem your movement has is that overwhelming majorities of French and German people (whether you mean the nationality or ethnicity; you clearly prefer the latter definition and are irked by the former, but it's true either way) are pretty hardcore pro-EU and pro-liberalism, and the generational trend is that it is getting more so. That it seems to be a common thought in your movement that you can win over Melenchon supporters and Antifa sympathizers rather than trying to appeal to mainstream right-wingers (by, for instance, adopting pro-trade stances while remaining anti-immigration, which is a common combination of beliefs) is a good example of why it'll basically never win.

I fully agree with the economic argument and I totally doubt the "racism" and EU explanation, but nevertheless thanks.

Our problem is that most people are totally manipulated by the left-wing media and are voting against their own beliefs. Muslim Ban e.g. is way more popular in Europe than in the US but a big bunch of people is either voting because of other topics or they really think that a vote for a non-mainstream candidate would be HITLER. If it wouldn't be so sad, I could laugh about so much stupidity. Whatever. Europe is doomed.

"Everyone would be on our side if they just knew THE TRUTH" is the calling card of political immaturity.
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