France 2017: Results Thread

[America Needs R'hllor]

and Assange suggested he got something on Macron in February
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/assange-says-he-has-dirt-french-candidate-emmanuel-macron-rumours-homosexual-affair-swirl-1605925


this is going to be disgusting.

They're not even trying to hide it anymore- this is a war between Putin-supported populist-nationalism and the western values. Supporting Le Pen is opposing democratic values.

[mencken]

Since we all like discussing unusual political theories...





Discuss how the Angevin Empire affects current day French politics.

I think it would be more accurate to say that western France is more fiscally conservative, while eastern France is more socially conservative.

Normandy, Brittany, Burgundy, etc, are strongholds of the PS and can in no way be called "fiscally conservative."

It was a joke.

[they don't love you like i love you]

following this message from earlier today.....which was posted here:




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The worst thing is that's not even a half plus seven rule violation. Macron is fine with any woman at least 27.

[Barnes]

Ah! I withdraw my aspersions unreservedly, but I had never seen that thread before.

Sad that was a legitimate thought about Ukraine. Poor Lviv being stuck at the extreme edge west of that feel-good social liberalism and radical fiscal doctrine!

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

following this message from earlier today.....which was posted here:




fake accounts are sharing it

The worst thing is that's not even a half plus seven rule violation. Macron is fine with any woman at least 27.

"The half plus seven rule" is where your mind goes when people plan to spread rumors about somebody sleeping with his stepdaughter? Really?

[Holmes]

It's par for the course for BRTD.

[Famous Mortimer]

Question, if there was a generic candidate of the right out there, without any personal baggage, who was running on Le Pens platform, but wasn't associated at all with the FN, would they be perceived as on the far right?  And would such a candidate have a chance of winning.  Before his personal baggage was exposed, it seemed that on immigration Fillon was coming fairly close to Le Pen politically.

Valéry Giscard d'Estaing deported all illegals when he was president but that was back in the 70s when such a thing was well within the Overton window. Today he would be considered literally Hitler and would probably get bombed by NATO and put on trail in The Hague.

[they don't love you like i love you]

following this message from earlier today.....which was posted here:




fake accounts are sharing it

The worst thing is that's not even a half plus seven rule violation. Macron is fine with any woman at least 27.

"The half plus seven rule" is where your mind goes when people plan to spread rumors about somebody sleeping with his stepdaughter? Really?

When said "rumors" are so pathetic, obviously false, and so blatantly disproven by what we have above...

[Kamala]

A map of the winner in each town sized by the population:

Wow, this certainly makes me feel better. Glad Le Pen isn't dominating super populous areas.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

following this message from earlier today.....which was posted here:




fake accounts are sharing it

The worst thing is that's not even a half plus seven rule violation. Macron is fine with any woman at least 27.

"The half plus seven rule" is where your mind goes when people plan to spread rumors about somebody sleeping with his stepdaughter? Really?

When said "rumors" are so pathetic, obviously false, and so blatantly disproven by what we have above...

"ayy lmao" still seems like a more appropriate response than an implicit "but it would be fine (even if only in one particular respect) if he were sleeping with his stepdaughter".

[Antonio the Sixth]

A map of the winner in each town sized by the population:

It's official: France has now become the US, with a cool trendy urban party and a mean scary redneck party and no left-right divide to speak of.

[Hydera]

Trump fanboys on reddit are trying to claim that Marine stepping down as President of the FN for two weeks is a major game changer. Meanwhile on major french websites its already old news.

[rob in cal]

  If rumors about FBM having unusual romantic attractions/and or being gay or bisexual gain traction, that might actually reassure some voters on the right, with them thinking that he might be a closet islamophobe because of this, sort of like Pym Fortuyn was in the Netherlands.

[Antonio the Sixth]

  If rumors about FBM having unusual romantic attractions/and or being gay or bisexual gain traction, that might actually reassure some voters on the right, with them thinking that he might be a closet islamophobe because of this, sort of like Pym Fortuyn was in the Netherlands.

...what.

[Holmes]

 If rumors about FBM having unusual romantic attractions/and or being gay or bisexual gain traction, that might actually reassure some voters on the right, with them thinking that he might be a closet islamophobe because of this, sort of like Pym Fortuyn was in the Netherlands.

🤔

[Zinneke]

 If rumors about FBM having unusual romantic attractions/and or being gay or bisexual gain traction, that might actually reassure some voters on the right, with them thinking that he might be a closet islamophobe because of this, sort of like Pym Fortuyn was in the Netherlands.

No.

Can we stop discussing Macron's private life?

[swl]

My department (l'Aude) had the two anti system candidates arriving first (first Le Pen then Melenchon).  Does anyone know which other departments had the same result?

[parochial boy]

A map of the winner in each town sized by the population:

It's official: France has now become the US, with a cool trendy urban party and a mean scary redneck party and no left-right divide to speak of.

I think the Auvergnats might be a bit surprised to find out that they are "cool, trendy and urban"

My department (l'Aude) had the two anti system candidates arriving first (first Le Pen then Melenchon).  Does anyone know which other departments had the same result?

Off the top of my head, Pas-de-Calais, Nord, Vaucluse, Bouches-du-Rhône, Hérault, Gard, Pyrénées-Orientales. Basically the "populist" areas on the Med Coast (somewhat surprising) and the North (not surprising).

Ariège was the only place where Mélenchon came first and Le Pen second.

[Tender Branson]

Looks like Elabe has the race at 64-36 right now. And they were the most accurate in round 1.

Le Pen is definitely going to struggle with the 35% ...

[Tirnam]

My department (l'Aude) had the two anti system candidates arriving first (first Le Pen then Melenchon).  Does anyone know which other departments had the same result?

Le Pen 1st, Mélenchon 2nd: Pas-de-Calais, Nord, Seine-Martime, Pyrénées-Orientales, Hérault, Gard, Ardèche, Bouches-du-Rhône, Vaucluse, Alpes de Haute Provence.

Mélenchon 1st, Le Pen 2nd: Ariège, Guyane, La Réunion, Saint-Pierre-et-Miquelon

[Tender Branson]

Austrian Frenchies:

46.7% Macron
19.3% Fillon
14.9% Melenchon
10.6% Hamon
  3.9% Le Pen
  4.6% Others

https://at.ambafrance.org/Ergebnis-des-Ersten-Wahlganges-der-franzosischen-Prasidentschaftswahlen-8867

[parochial boy]

In Switzerland (apparently the biggest French abroad community):

Macron - 34.7% (45.6% in German CH; 32.7% in French)
Fillon - 30.8% (28.2% in German; 31.2% in French)
Mélenchon - 15.1% (10.3% in German; 16% in French)
Le Pen - 8.1% (6.1% in German; 8.4% in French)
Hamon - 5.9% (5.5% in German; 5.9%)

http://www.lematin.ch/monde/Les-Francais-de-Suisse-ont-plebiscite-Macron/story/18127329

Tribune de Genève even has detailed breakdowns by Canton in French Switzerland (and even more detailed for Geneva and Vaud).

Macron won in Vaud, Fribourg and Neuchâtel; Fillon in Geneva, Jura and Valais. Voting patterns in Geneva and Vaud were amusingly similar to voting patterns in Swiss elections.



Sometimes I wonder if we're even a different country...

[Hydera]

How the Far-right support appeared in 1956, 1965, 1984, and 2007.










The FN lost supported in the Ile-de-france when it switched from a thatcherite economic policy to that closer of the PS on economic issues.  But it also gained support in the former industrial/coal mining regions near Belgium.

Meanwhile they always did well in the Southern coast of France oweing mainly to the Pied-noirs and their descendants.

https://tinyurl.com/lbcmtwx

[Bumaye]

following this message from earlier today.....which was posted here:

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They are not even coherent in their rumors. Just a couple weeks ago he was supposed to be gay. 
 
Well, does anybody have the results for the French in Germany?

[Hydera]

following this message from earlier today.....which was posted here:

fake accounts are sharing it

 
 
They are not even coherent in their rumors. Just a couple weeks ago he was supposed to be gay. 
 
Well, does anybody have the results for the French in Germany?

https://ca.ambafrance.org/Election-presidentielle-Resultats-du-premier-tour-pour-les-Francais-de-l


They have a pdf of results for every country now.