France 2017: Results Thread

[Zinneke]

Places like Vendée and Haut-de-Seine voting for the de facto "left-wing" candidate while doing terribly every working class area.

Not sure if it makes sense to think of Macron in such terms. He's the latest centrist huckster, except that in its current incarnation centrist hucksterism takes a higher share from the left than in its previous one (but not all previous ones).

Gauche de coeur, Droite de portefeuille is how I would describe the specimen I have met.

The younger ones tend to also be the ones who want France to move on and dream of going to places like Montréal to work. Some of them from rural background who moved to their nearest metropole, then Brussels. Kind of ambitious, anti-inferiority complex, and towing the Mittérand 88 line.

I never really saw the UDF capture this kind of message.

[Holmes]

Will LePen win any departments in the 2nd round?

Maybe in the north, in places her vote share was in the mid 30's.

[Bumaye]

Result for Paris City:  
  
Macron: 34,84%  
Fillon: 26,45%  
Mélenchon: 19,56%  
Hamon: 10,18%  
Le Pen: 4,99%  

[Bumaye]

Will LePen win any departments in the 2nd round?

Maybe in the north, I'm placed her vote share was in the mid 30's.

 
 
Actually just 31%.

[danny]

Will LePen win any departments in the 2nd round?

Maybe in the north, I'm placed her vote share was in the mid 30's.

 
 
Actually just 31%.

In Aisne it was 35.67%.

[The Free North]

The geographic divide is almost as stark as Poland's.

Very impressive.

[Lexii, harbinger of chaos and sexual anarchy]

Will LePen win any departments in the 2nd round?

Maybe in the north, I'm placed her vote share was in the mid 30's.

 
 
Actually just 31%.

She got 34% in P. Calais and 35 in Aisne

[Bumaye]

Will LePen win any departments in the 2nd round?

Maybe in the north, I'm placed her vote share was in the mid 30's.

 
 
Actually just 31%.

She got 34% in P. Calais and 35 in Aisne

 
 
Oh sorry, thought about regions not departments. It's kinda late already...

[Antonio the Sixth]

This map is hilarious/horrifying. The Realignment is real.

What's the realignment? I don't known French politics well.

Places like Vendée and Haut-de-Seine voting for the de facto "left-wing" candidate while doing terribly every working class area.

I see. Could this just be a short term trend due to Hollande's unpopularity and the French left going into this election with a huge handicap?

We'll see if the French left survives the next year or so. If it survives, it will have to be in opposition to FBM.

[BaldEagle1991]

So what's the West Virginia/Alabama of France? And conversely the San Fran/Boston/NYC of France?

[Zinneke]

So what's the West Virginia/Alabama of France?

I vote for Nord-Pas-de-Calais.

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Paris. Paris. And Paris.

[TheSaint250]

So what's the West Virginia/Alabama of France?

I vote for Nord-Pas-de-Calais.

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Paris. Paris. And Paris.

What's the New Jersey? You know where all the rude people live.

Wouldn't that be all of France? jk

[Antonio the Sixth]

Places like Vendée and Haut-de-Seine voting for the de facto "left-wing" candidate while doing terribly every working class area.

Not sure if it makes sense to think of Macron in such terms. He's the latest centrist huckster, except that in its current incarnation centrist hucksterism takes a higher share from the left than in its previous one (but not all previous ones).

Of course FBM is not left-wing, but most of his voters clearly are.

[Pessimistic Antineutrino]

So what's the West Virginia/Alabama of France?

I vote for Nord-Pas-de-Calais.

Calais? It went comfortably for Hollande both rounds in 2012. I'd say it's more similar to Michigan - a heavily industrial region that's gone left-wing as of recent but flipped to a nationalist candidate.

[DL]

Why is Corsica so rightwing? It went heavily for LePen and Fillon

[Antonio the Sixth]

So what's the West Virginia/Alabama of France?

What a weird question, since West Virginia and Alabama have very different political histories.

[DL]

Do we know how the French living abroad voted? I can't seem to find that anywhere

[Roronoa D. Law]

So what's the West Virginia/Alabama of France?

What a weird question, since West Virginia and Alabama have very different political histories.

Alabama is one of kind I doubt any place in France would reach that level of racial polarization. Still I don't know much about France but i'm pretty sure their is no department in France that would allow a political party too parade themselves like the Alabama GOP without retribution.

[Zinneke]

So what's the West Virginia/Alabama of France?

I vote for Nord-Pas-de-Calais.

Calais? It went comfortably for Hollande both rounds in 2012. I'd say it's more similar to Michigan - a heavily industrial region that's gone left-wing as of recent but flipped to a nationalist candidate.

Nord-Pas-de-Calais =/= Calais btw.
You are right otherwise.
I mean, American political comparisons are pretty moot. Different political cultures, etc. This part of France used to be strong left-wing territory, Alabama was not. I would say Michigan would be more like a place in Le Grand Est where unions and car manufacturing were/are strong.
 But the people on NPDC have that "redneck" backwards stereotype that even produced a film.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wd-Dyg7X-U

[ApatheticAustrian]

As Taniel noted, the difference between Macron and Le Pen is bigger than between LP and Melenchon.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

So what's the West Virginia/Alabama of France?

What a weird question, since West Virginia and Alabama have very different political histories.

Alabama is one of kind I doubt any place in France would reach that level of racial polarization. Still I don't know much about France but i'm pretty sure their is no department in France that would allow a political party too parade themselves like the Alabama GOP without retribution.

I was going to guess New Caledonia lol.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Looks like the final first round results are as follows:

E. MACRON
EN MARCHE
23,86%

M. LE PEN
FRONT NATIONAL
21,43%

F. FILLON
LES RÉPUBLICAINS
19,94%

J. MELENCHON
LA FRANCE INSOUMISE
19,62%

B. HAMON
PARTI SOCIALISTE
6,35%

N. DUPONT-AIGNAN
DEBOUT LA FRANCE
4,73%

J. LASSALLE
RÉSISTONS !
1,21%

P. POUTOU
NOUVEAU PARTI ANTICAPITALISTE
1,10%

F. ASSELINEAU
UNION POPULAIRE RÉPUBLICAINE
0,92%

N. ARTHAUD
LUTTE OUVRIÈRE
0,65%

J. CHEMINADE
SOLIDARITÉ ET PROGRÈS
0,18%

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

The takes in this thread are very, very bad. For all of the talk of Le Pen's magnificent performance among the working class and RE-ALIGNMENT, what has been missed is that this only really occurred in a few departments (Nord and Pas-de-Calais) and that both Macron and Melenchon were a non-negligible presence in every working class community. What's interesting is that Fillon was incinerated, barely beating Dupont-Aignan in some communes (!).

I guess you could point to Alsace and Moselle but Le Pen's performance in both places was pretty underwhelming imo. They both voted for her last time and the "real" reason why it appears she won both by huge margins is that Fillon collapsed (doesn't even appear Sarkozy 2012 voters shifted to Le Pen in huge numbers?).

Weak! Sad!

I'm not going to pretend to be happy about these results because Macron is awful and Nord/Pas-de-Calais produced some genuinely disturbing results but compared to my expectations in 2015 or, even in December of 2016, this is a relatively okay result, I guess. Small swing to Le Pen, collapse of Fillon, vague left-wing resurgence at the last minute that prevents annihilation, Macron sucking up right-wing voters etc. I'll take this tbh.

[Hydera]

For all the talk of LGBT support for the FN.  They got just an average of 4% in the two districts in Paris with a sizable gay population.

[Famous Mortimer]

Too lazy to read all this. What areas did Fillon win and why? What areas did Melenchon win and why?

Who won all the weird territories?