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« Reply #600 on: April 23, 2017, 07:02:36 PM »

Mister Bonnard has posted the maps by candidate on twitter.

e.g.

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« Reply #601 on: April 23, 2017, 07:10:17 PM »

97.01% in:

23.87% Macron
21.43% Le Pen
19.94% Fillon
19.60% Melenchon

From here: https://twitter.com/GeraldineAmiel/status/856298471720198144
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« Reply #602 on: April 23, 2017, 07:10:50 PM »

Places like Vendée and Haut-de-Seine voting for the de facto "left-wing" candidate while doing terribly every working class area.

Not sure if it makes sense to think of Macron in such terms. He's the latest centrist huckster, except that in its current incarnation centrist hucksterism takes a higher share from the left than in its previous one (but not all previous ones).
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« Reply #603 on: April 23, 2017, 07:12:18 PM »
« Edited: April 23, 2017, 07:15:08 PM by Rogier »

Places like Vendée and Haut-de-Seine voting for the de facto "left-wing" candidate while doing terribly every working class area.

Not sure if it makes sense to think of Macron in such terms. He's the latest centrist huckster, except that in its current incarnation centrist hucksterism takes a higher share from the left than in its previous one (but not all previous ones).

Gauche de coeur, Droite de portefeuille is how I would describe the specimen I have met.

The younger ones tend to also be the ones who want France to move on and dream of going to places like Montréal to work. Some of them from rural background who moved to their nearest metropole, then Brussels. Kind of ambitious, anti-inferiority complex, and towing the Mittérand 88 line.

I never really saw the UDF capture this kind of message.
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« Reply #604 on: April 23, 2017, 07:12:28 PM »
« Edited: April 23, 2017, 07:17:30 PM by Holmes »

Will LePen win any departments in the 2nd round?

Maybe in the north, in places her vote share was in the mid 30's.
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« Reply #605 on: April 23, 2017, 07:13:11 PM »

Result for Paris City:  
  
Macron: 34,84%  
Fillon: 26,45%  
Mélenchon: 19,56%  
Hamon: 10,18%  
Le Pen: 4,99%  
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« Reply #606 on: April 23, 2017, 07:17:55 PM »

Will LePen win any departments in the 2nd round?

Maybe in the north, I'm placed her vote share was in the mid 30's.
 
 
Actually just 31%.
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« Reply #607 on: April 23, 2017, 07:21:10 PM »

Will LePen win any departments in the 2nd round?

Maybe in the north, I'm placed her vote share was in the mid 30's.
 
 
Actually just 31%.

In Aisne it was 35.67%.
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« Reply #608 on: April 23, 2017, 07:22:16 PM »

The geographic divide is almost as stark as Poland's.

Very impressive.
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« Reply #609 on: April 23, 2017, 07:22:21 PM »

Will LePen win any departments in the 2nd round?

Maybe in the north, I'm placed her vote share was in the mid 30's.
 
 
Actually just 31%.

She got 34% in P. Calais and 35 in Aisne
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« Reply #610 on: April 23, 2017, 07:24:03 PM »

Will LePen win any departments in the 2nd round?

Maybe in the north, I'm placed her vote share was in the mid 30's.
 
 
Actually just 31%.

She got 34% in P. Calais and 35 in Aisne
 
 
Oh sorry, thought about regions not departments. It's kinda late already...
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« Reply #611 on: April 23, 2017, 07:24:58 PM »

This map is hilarious/horrifying. The Realignment is real.

What's the realignment? I don't known French politics well.

Places like Vendée and Haut-de-Seine voting for the de facto "left-wing" candidate while doing terribly every working class area.

I see. Could this just be a short term trend due to Hollande's unpopularity and the French left going into this election with a huge handicap?

We'll see if the French left survives the next year or so. If it survives, it will have to be in opposition to FBM.
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« Reply #612 on: April 23, 2017, 07:30:22 PM »

So what's the West Virginia/Alabama of France? And conversely the San Fran/Boston/NYC of France?
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« Reply #613 on: April 23, 2017, 07:33:21 PM »

So what's the West Virginia/Alabama of France?

I vote for Nord-Pas-de-Calais.


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« Reply #614 on: April 23, 2017, 07:39:54 PM »

So what's the West Virginia/Alabama of France?

I vote for Nord-Pas-de-Calais.


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Wouldn't that be all of France? Smiley jk
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« Reply #615 on: April 23, 2017, 07:41:56 PM »
« Edited: April 23, 2017, 07:43:42 PM by En Marche Forcée »

Places like Vendée and Haut-de-Seine voting for the de facto "left-wing" candidate while doing terribly every working class area.

Not sure if it makes sense to think of Macron in such terms. He's the latest centrist huckster, except that in its current incarnation centrist hucksterism takes a higher share from the left than in its previous one (but not all previous ones).

Of course FBM is not left-wing, but most of his voters clearly are.
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« Reply #616 on: April 23, 2017, 07:42:56 PM »

So what's the West Virginia/Alabama of France?

I vote for Nord-Pas-de-Calais.



Calais? It went comfortably for Hollande both rounds in 2012. I'd say it's more similar to Michigan - a heavily industrial region that's gone left-wing as of recent but flipped to a nationalist candidate.
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« Reply #617 on: April 23, 2017, 07:44:36 PM »

Why is Corsica so rightwing? It went heavily for LePen and Fillon
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« Reply #618 on: April 23, 2017, 07:44:40 PM »

So what's the West Virginia/Alabama of France?

What a weird question, since West Virginia and Alabama have very different political histories.
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« Reply #619 on: April 23, 2017, 07:52:44 PM »

Do we know how the French living abroad voted? I can't seem to find that anywhere
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« Reply #620 on: April 23, 2017, 07:59:32 PM »

So what's the West Virginia/Alabama of France?

What a weird question, since West Virginia and Alabama have very different political histories.

Alabama is one of kind I doubt any place in France would reach that level of racial polarization. Still I don't know much about France but i'm pretty sure their is no department in France that would allow a political party too parade themselves like the Alabama GOP without retribution.
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« Reply #621 on: April 23, 2017, 08:01:22 PM »
« Edited: April 23, 2017, 08:03:02 PM by Rogier »

So what's the West Virginia/Alabama of France?

I vote for Nord-Pas-de-Calais.



Calais? It went comfortably for Hollande both rounds in 2012. I'd say it's more similar to Michigan - a heavily industrial region that's gone left-wing as of recent but flipped to a nationalist candidate.


Nord-Pas-de-Calais =/= Calais btw.
You are right otherwise.
I mean, American political comparisons are pretty moot. Different political cultures, etc. This part of France used to be strong left-wing territory, Alabama was not. I would say Michigan would be more like a place in Le Grand Est where unions and car manufacturing were/are strong.
 But the people on NPDC have that "redneck" backwards stereotype that even produced a film.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wd-Dyg7X-U



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« Reply #622 on: April 23, 2017, 08:09:21 PM »

As Taniel noted, the difference between Macron and Le Pen is bigger than between LP and Melenchon.
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« Reply #623 on: April 23, 2017, 08:24:57 PM »

So what's the West Virginia/Alabama of France?

What a weird question, since West Virginia and Alabama have very different political histories.

Alabama is one of kind I doubt any place in France would reach that level of racial polarization. Still I don't know much about France but i'm pretty sure their is no department in France that would allow a political party too parade themselves like the Alabama GOP without retribution.

I was going to guess New Caledonia lol.

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« Reply #624 on: April 23, 2017, 08:49:40 PM »

Looks like the final first round results are as follows:

E. MACRON
EN MARCHE
23,86%

M. LE PEN
FRONT NATIONAL
21,43%

F. FILLON
LES RÉPUBLICAINS
19,94%

J. MELENCHON
LA FRANCE INSOUMISE
19,62%

B. HAMON
PARTI SOCIALISTE
6,35%

N. DUPONT-AIGNAN
DEBOUT LA FRANCE
4,73%

J. LASSALLE
RÉSISTONS !
1,21%

P. POUTOU
NOUVEAU PARTI ANTICAPITALISTE
1,10%

F. ASSELINEAU
UNION POPULAIRE RÉPUBLICAINE
0,92%

N. ARTHAUD
LUTTE OUVRIÈRE
0,65%

J. CHEMINADE
SOLIDARITÉ ET PROGRÈS
0,18%
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