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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #425 on: April 23, 2017, 03:11:17 PM »

wouldn't call the traditional right dead in france, fillon did pretty well if you remember that he had collected SOOO much baggage and got some internal strife and macron defections.
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« Reply #426 on: April 23, 2017, 03:12:02 PM »

In Brachay, Le Pen gets 83.7% of the vote. Macron gets 0 votes.
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« Reply #427 on: April 23, 2017, 03:13:10 PM »

wouldn't call the traditional right dead in france, fillon did pretty well if you remember that he had collected SOOO much baggage and got some internal strife and macron defections.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too (why I said not too sure about FN).

I think EM and JLM and their parties taking power in the place of PS are really possible
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« Reply #428 on: April 23, 2017, 03:13:27 PM »

I had seen an interesting theory on the other election thread:

This election could create a sort-of three-party system in France where the National Front leads the right, En Marche! leads the center, and Mélenchon's coalition leads the left.

Except for the National Front, this seems pretty likely to me.

Please kill me if that ever happens. But I agree with ApatheticAustrian. The right nominated an incredibly corrupt socially conservative Thatcherite (toxic in France) and still got 20% of the vote.
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« Reply #429 on: April 23, 2017, 03:13:56 PM »

Estimate figures have Macron at 23.9%, Le Pen at 21.7% and Fillon at 20% with Ipsos.
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« Reply #430 on: April 23, 2017, 03:14:09 PM »

Latest Ifop projections

Macron 23.7%
Le Pen 21.7%
Fillon 20.0%
Mélenchon 19.5%
Hamon 6.4%
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« Reply #431 on: April 23, 2017, 03:15:03 PM »

Latest Ifop projections

Macron 23.7%
Le Pen 21.7%
Fillon 20.0%
Mélenchon 19.5%
Hamon 6.4%
Is Fillon going up?  If so, could he still end up in the second round?
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« Reply #432 on: April 23, 2017, 03:15:53 PM »

Estimate figures have Macron at 23.9%, Le Pen at 21.7% and Fillon at 20%

Given that the estimates are based only on areas reporting and Le Pen is expected to do much worse in cities and Fillon much better, while as far as I can tell no cities of any significant size are reporting yet, there's still a tiny room for error that Fillon could edge Le Pen and make it to the runoff. Very unlikely, though.
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« Reply #433 on: April 23, 2017, 03:16:12 PM »

Latest Ifop projections

Macron 23.7%
Le Pen 21.7%
Fillon 20.0%
Mélenchon 19.5%
Hamon 6.4%
Is Fillon going up?  If so, could he still end up in the second round?
Fillon has already conceded, so I don't think so.
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« Reply #434 on: April 23, 2017, 03:16:45 PM »

Isère's north-south divide is always astonishing
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« Reply #435 on: April 23, 2017, 03:17:30 PM »

Corsica is leaning Fillon
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« Reply #436 on: April 23, 2017, 03:17:51 PM »

Wonder who he'll endorse Wink
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« Reply #437 on: April 23, 2017, 03:19:22 PM »

Silly question....

are there many big city counties included right now or does that work like everywhere?
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« Reply #438 on: April 23, 2017, 03:19:54 PM »

macron will be just another one term president
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« Reply #439 on: April 23, 2017, 03:20:07 PM »

Ipsos snap poll has it as Macron 62 Le Pen 38 for second round.
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« Reply #440 on: April 23, 2017, 03:20:14 PM »

I had seen an interesting theory on the other election thread:

This election could create a sort-of three-party system in France where the National Front leads the right, En Marche! leads the center, and Mélenchon's coalition leads the left.

Except for the National Front, this seems pretty likely to me.

Trouble is FN is screwed over by the electoral system (see: the last regional elections) which means their vote is never really reflected in parliament.

I think En Marche will be a revival of the old UDF tbh, which was  subsumed by Chirac's rightists. So tbh it's almost back to the past with a divided left (PS being just as humiliated as the SFIO) and centre President reliant on a coalition with the centre-right.
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« Reply #441 on: April 23, 2017, 03:20:50 PM »

Silly question....

are there many big city counties included right now or does that work like everywhere?

I don't see any cities reporting yet. Even most suburbs seem to still be out.
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« Reply #442 on: April 23, 2017, 03:21:15 PM »

Ipsos snap poll has it as Macron 62 Le Pen 38 for second round.
Pretty much in line with polls prior to today.
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« Reply #443 on: April 23, 2017, 03:21:35 PM »

From http://presidentielle.lepoint.fr


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« Reply #444 on: April 23, 2017, 03:22:25 PM »

Le Pen is getting a much bigger swing in the North than the South which is as expected.
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« Reply #445 on: April 23, 2017, 03:23:58 PM »

advantage for classical lefties:

if macron breaks up the frozen structure holding back france and is able to succeed, the socialists won't be blamed and are able to heal their wounds, while we could all appreciate the outcome.

it's still a shame that renzi was knee-capped.
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« Reply #446 on: April 23, 2017, 03:24:12 PM »

Ipsos snap poll has it as Macron 62 Le Pen 38 for second round.

Fillon voters:

43% Macron
17% Le Pen
40% No preference
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« Reply #447 on: April 23, 2017, 03:25:48 PM »

Weirdly, Lassalle has won a couple of communes on Corse-Sud (and tied with Fillon in a third), which are obviously well outside of the Bearnais/Basque areas. Anyone have any idea why?

Is Lassalle specifically a Basque candidate?
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« Reply #448 on: April 23, 2017, 03:25:58 PM »

Results so far:

Marine Le Pen(Front National) - 3,083,264 voix
25,31 %

Emmanuel Macron(En Marche !) - 2,622,534 voix
21,53 %

François Fillon(Les Républicains) - 2,370,118 voix
19,46 %
Jean-Luc Mélenchon(Gauche Radicale) - 2,179,904 voix
17,90 %
Benoît Hamon(Parti Socialiste) - 684,103 voix
5,62 %
Nicolas Dupont-Aignan(Debout la France) - 660,786 voix
5,42 %
Jean Lassalle(Résistons !) - 199,180 voix
1,64 %
Philippe Poutou(Nouveau Parti anticapitaliste) - 155 865 voix
1,28 %
François Asselineau(Union populaire républicaine)104 284 voix
0,86 %
Nathalie Arthaud(Lutte Ouvrière)96 931 voix
0,80 %
Jacques Cheminade(Solidarité et progrès)24 861 voix
0,19 %
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« Reply #449 on: April 23, 2017, 03:27:19 PM »

trump and brexit are still there, so eu going into isolation if macron wins
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