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« Reply #400 on: April 23, 2017, 02:59:27 PM »

Guyana:
Mr. Jean-Luc MÉLENCHON   24.72
Ms. Marine LE PEN      24.29
Mr. Emmanuel MACRON   18.75
Mr. François FILLON   14.66
Mr. Benoît HAMON   5.69
Mr. Philippe POUTOU   5.24
Mr. François ASSELINEAU   1.79
Mr. Nicolas DUPONT-AIGNAN   1.76
Ms. Nathalie ARTHAUD   1.72
Mr. Jean LASSALLE   1.02
Mr. Jacques CHEMINADE   0.37
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« Reply #401 on: April 23, 2017, 03:00:01 PM »

I don't care. I'm so proud to be in the 6% who made the right choice. The 94% can go screw themselves.

"I don't care.  I'm proud to be in the 1% who made the right choice.  The 99% can go screw themselves." - every Jill Stein voter

This is a very stupid comparision. France had two-rounds voting system.

Not really given that there was some real uncertainty about whether Macron (the only pro-EU candidate) was going to make it to the run-off.  What matters most in this election is that France chooses a pro-EU candidate and Macron was the only electable one.

Sorry, I'm not going to vote for a f**king neoliberal investment banker piece of sh*t just because he's ~pro-EU~ Smiley Smiley Smiley

Are investment bankers automatically sh**t or is this a specific attack on Macron?
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« Reply #402 on: April 23, 2017, 03:00:20 PM »

With 10 of 107 departements counted | At 21:50 CEST
Le Pen 21.3%
Macron 21.13%
Mélenchon 20.73%
Fillon 20.58%

Lol this is my every candidate within two points of each other prediction.
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« Reply #403 on: April 23, 2017, 03:00:44 PM »

I don't care. I'm so proud to be in the 6% who made the right choice. The 94% can go screw themselves.

"I don't care.  I'm proud to be in the 1% who made the right choice.  The 99% can go screw themselves." - every Jill Stein voter

This is a very stupid comparision. France had two-rounds voting system.

Not really given that there was some real uncertainty about whether Macron (the only pro-EU candidate) was going to make it to the run-off.  What matters most in this election is that France chooses a pro-EU candidate and Macron was the only electable one.

Sorry, I'm not going to vote for a f**king neoliberal investment banker piece of sh*t just because he's ~pro-EU~ Smiley Smiley Smiley

Are investment bankers automatically sh**t or is this a specific attack on Macron?
Anything right of Melenchon or Hamon is neoliberalism.
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« Reply #404 on: April 23, 2017, 03:00:52 PM »

So what's the deal with Le Pen supporters in the Pacific Islands? White people I assume?

What are Le Pen's thoughts on the natives in those places voting and having French citizenship?
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« Reply #405 on: April 23, 2017, 03:01:36 PM »
« Edited: April 23, 2017, 03:04:00 PM by Tintrlvr »

Two more departments finish:

Ariege
Melenchon: 27%
Le Pen: 22%
Macron: 21%
Fillon: 13%

Vosges
Le Pen: 29%
Macron: 20%
Fillon: 18%
Melenchon: 17%
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« Reply #406 on: April 23, 2017, 03:01:42 PM »

Ariege:
Jean-Luc MELENCHON
26,74%
Marine LE PEN
21,69%
Emmanuel MACRON
20,97%
François FILLON
12,73%
Benoît HAMON
7,84%
Nicolas DUPONT-AIGNAN
3,60%
Jean LASSALLE
3,55%
Philippe POUTOU
1,28%
François ASSELINEAU
0,85%
Nathalie ARTHAUD
0,59%
Jacques CHEMINADE
0,15%

Vosges:
Marine LE PEN
29,12%
Emmanuel MACRON
19,87%
François FILLON
18,03%
Jean-Luc MELENCHON
16,64%
Nicolas DUPONT-AIGNAN
6,53%
Benoît HAMON
4,96%
Philippe POUTOU
1,47%
Jean LASSALLE
1,25%
François ASSELINEAU
1,01%
Nathalie ARTHAUD
0,91%
Jacques CHEMINADE
0,21%
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« Reply #407 on: April 23, 2017, 03:01:58 PM »

Cantal seems to have finished counting. http://presidentielle.lepoint.fr/cantal/?p=compare
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« Reply #408 on: April 23, 2017, 03:02:01 PM »

can someone explain to me why exit polls are so much more definitive in europe than america.

How are candidates already speaking when barely any vote is in?
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« Reply #409 on: April 23, 2017, 03:03:08 PM »

can someone explain to me why exit polls are so much more definitive in europe than america.

How are candidates already speaking when barely any vote is in?

I saw that they are based on key precincts' actual results, unlike in America
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« Reply #410 on: April 23, 2017, 03:03:16 PM »

can someone explain to me why exit polls are so much more definitive in europe than america.


smaller countries, easier to "check" and those haven't even been exit polls, imho but early key numbers from strongholds.
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« Reply #411 on: April 23, 2017, 03:03:35 PM »

So what's the deal with Le Pen supporters in the Pacific Islands? White people I assume?

What are Le Pen's thoughts on the natives in those places voting and having French citizenship?

One of the major political dynamics in Nouvelle-Caledonie is the tension between the indigenous Kanaky, who tend to be pro-independence; and the white settlers (for want of a better word), who are solidly conservative, and very opposed to independence.

Not in the pacific, but Guyane's strong Le Pen vote is probably as a result of the huge level of immigration (illegal mainly) from Haiti and Brazil; which is part of the larger plethora of concerns that have been causing the protest there.
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« Reply #412 on: April 23, 2017, 03:03:50 PM »

can someone explain to me why exit polls are so much more definitive in europe than america.

How are candidates already speaking when barely any vote is in?

It is not an exit poll. Rural areas close before cities, so the results in rural areas can be used to interpolate the national results.
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« Reply #413 on: April 23, 2017, 03:04:53 PM »

can someone explain to me why exit polls are so much more definitive in europe than america.

How are candidates already speaking when barely any vote is in?
It's partial results, not an exit poll. It's like the difference between a biopsy and a questionnaire.
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« Reply #414 on: April 23, 2017, 03:05:22 PM »

So the big thing to discuss now: the very last poll (as per Wikipedia) had Macron at 24.5%, Le Pen at 23%, Fillon and Mélenchon at 19%, and Dupont-Aignan at 4.5%.  The estimate from France 2 has Macron at 23.7% and Le Pen at 21.7%, Fillon at 20%, Mélenchon at 19.5%, and Hâmon at 6.2%.  Obviously, this was just a poll, but this seems to indicate that Le Pen lost some supporters, or at least more than previously thought.  Some seem to have gone to Fillon.  So where do you guys think these shifts across the board happened?
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« Reply #415 on: April 23, 2017, 03:05:44 PM »

I don't care. I'm so proud to be in the 6% who made the right choice. The 94% can go screw themselves.

"I don't care.  I'm proud to be in the 1% who made the right choice.  The 99% can go screw themselves." - every Jill Stein voter

This is a very stupid comparision. France had two-rounds voting system.

Not really given that there was some real uncertainty about whether Macron (the only pro-EU candidate) was going to make it to the run-off.  What matters most in this election is that France chooses a pro-EU candidate and Macron was the only electable one.

Sorry, I'm not going to vote for a f**king neoliberal investment banker piece of sh*t just because he's ~pro-EU~ Smiley Smiley Smiley

Are investment bankers automatically sh**t or is this a specific attack on Macron?
Anything right of Melenchon or Hamon is neoliberalism.

Correct.
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« Reply #416 on: April 23, 2017, 03:06:24 PM »

Weirdly, Lassalle has won a couple of communes on Corse-Sud (and tied with Fillon in a third), which are obviously well outside of the Bearnais/Basque areas. Anyone have any idea why?
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« Reply #417 on: April 23, 2017, 03:06:58 PM »

Prads-Haute-Bléone is done, Le Pen wins. Oddly enough, Macron came in second.
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« Reply #418 on: April 23, 2017, 03:07:11 PM »



Gard 2012 vs. 2017. Looks like Mélenchon is picking up the old PS areas.
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« Reply #419 on: April 23, 2017, 03:07:53 PM »

It looks like Wikipedia has called it for Macron and Le Pen
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« Reply #420 on: April 23, 2017, 03:08:03 PM »
« Edited: April 23, 2017, 03:10:12 PM by Tintrlvr »

Another department done:

Alpes-de-Haute-Provence
Le Pen: 24.53%
Melenchon: 22.51%
Macron: 20.02%
Fillon: 18.50%
Hamon: 5.00%
Dupont-Aignan: 4.87%
Lassalle: 1.73%
Poutou: 1.18%
Asselineau: 0.93%
Arthaud: 0.52%
Cheminade: 0.21%
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« Reply #421 on: April 23, 2017, 03:08:39 PM »

Weirdly, Lassalle has won a couple of communes on Corse-Sud (and tied with Fillon in a third), which are obviously well outside of the Bearnais/Basque areas. Anyone have any idea why?
Also, Hamon won 2 communes (pretty convincingly, too) in Haute-Corse..
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« Reply #422 on: April 23, 2017, 03:09:29 PM »

I had seen an interesting theory on the other election thread:

This election could create a sort-of three-party system in France where the National Front leads the right, En Marche! leads the center, and Mélenchon's coalition leads the left.

Except for the National Front, this seems pretty likely to me.
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« Reply #423 on: April 23, 2017, 03:09:52 PM »

It looks like Wikipedia has called it for Macron and Le Pen
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« Reply #424 on: April 23, 2017, 03:09:54 PM »

With 13 of 107 departements counted | At 22:07 CEST
Le Pen 22.92%
Macron 20.81%
Mélenchon 20.61%
Fillon 19.41%
Hamon 7.05%
Dupont-Aignan 3.61%
Poutou 1.59%
Asselineau 1.34%
Lassalle 1.22%
Arthaud 1.19%
Cheminade 0.25%
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