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« Reply #325 on: April 23, 2017, 02:09:24 PM »
The big story is where Macron did well. And the fact that PS-LR are not there.
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« Reply #326 on: April 23, 2017, 02:09:26 PM »
Quote from: Vosem on April 23, 2017, 02:08:16 PM
Quote from: TheSaint250 on April 23, 2017, 02:06:00 PM
This is a new right-wing movement that sticks it to the establishment, to the "rich and powerful," and brings more positive solutions.  The US is the perfect example of this.

Nah, the victory of candidates like Van der Bellen, Hillary (in the PV, pretty clearly), Rutte, and Macron is the trend. The centrists are ascendant and supported by the people, and can be beaten only through weird electoral systems in the event of terrible candidates running terrible campaigns.

The US kicked this off. Clearly. (btw you left out Brexit) One of these days, right-wing populists will be controlling the nations.  It will happen.
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« Reply #327 on: April 23, 2017, 02:10:07 PM »
Marine Le Pen: "I am the candidate of the people".

Aye, right...
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« Reply #328 on: April 23, 2017, 02:10:42 PM »
Quote from: Sibboleth on April 23, 2017, 02:05:05 PM
Perhaps keep the Grade E level #analysis about GLOBAL TRENDS elsewhere and concentrate on the actual thing happening now?

Oh but who even cares.

One can only hope.
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« Reply #329 on: April 23, 2017, 02:10:59 PM »
Quote from: TheSaint250 on April 23, 2017, 02:09:26 PM
Quote from: Vosem on April 23, 2017, 02:08:16 PM
Quote from: TheSaint250 on April 23, 2017, 02:06:00 PM
This is a new right-wing movement that sticks it to the establishment, to the "rich and powerful," and brings more positive solutions.  The US is the perfect example of this.

Nah, the victory of candidates like Van der Bellen, Hillary (in the PV, pretty clearly), Rutte, and Macron is the trend. The centrists are ascendant and supported by the people, and can be beaten only through weird electoral systems in the event of terrible candidates running terrible campaigns.

The US kicked this off. Clearly. (btw you left out Brexit) One of these days, right-wing populists will be controlling the nations.  It will happen.

I did leave out Brexit, which was intentional, since what made the difference there was support from far-leftist groups which would be difficult to replicate in any election between parties or candidates. If we actually had referenda on all issues, your movement could probably be much more successful. But we don't.
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« Reply #330 on: April 23, 2017, 02:11:08 PM »
Quote from: AndrewCA🌹 on April 23, 2017, 02:08:49 PM
Quote from: TheSaint250 on April 23, 2017, 02:06:00 PM
This is a new right-wing movement that sticks it to the establishment, to the "rich and powerful," and brings more positive solutions.  The US is the perfect example of this.

There's no such thing as a right-wing movement that "sticks it to the rich and powerful", you tedious dolt. Protecting the interests of the rich and powerful is literally the whole point of right-wing politics.
How so? Lowering taxes? I'll give that to you, if you forget it kinda helps more people than that. Right-wing is about protecting what people work for, what people love, what people aspire to be, not taking it away with stupid promises of free stuff
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« Reply #331 on: April 23, 2017, 02:11:14 PM »
Quote from: Clyde1998 on April 23, 2017, 02:10:07 PM
Marine Le Pen: "I am the candidate of the people".

Aye, right...

Well, compared to Macron...
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« Reply #332 on: April 23, 2017, 02:11:18 PM »
the nationalist moment is NOW and trump has ruined it through peaking too early.
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« Reply #333 on: April 23, 2017, 02:11:26 PM »
Oh God, they're singing the anthem now.
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« Reply #334 on: April 23, 2017, 02:12:15 PM »

they have all reasons to be proud.
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« Reply #335 on: April 23, 2017, 02:12:24 PM »
I found a commune in metropolitan France with Hamon in the lead: http://graphics.france24.com/resultats-1er-tour-election-presidentielle-2017/
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« Reply #336 on: April 23, 2017, 02:12:40 PM »
Le Point probably has the best map of all, with live results and comparisons with 2012:

http://presidentielle.lepoint.fr/

Currently, Le Pen does 5-10% better than in 2012.

(Click on a department that's reporting and then compare with 2012)
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« Reply #337 on: April 23, 2017, 02:13:11 PM »
Sky News in the UK had to clarify that they were signing the French anthem, because it was "tuneless". Cheesy
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« Reply #338 on: April 23, 2017, 02:16:07 PM »
Quote from: Tender Branson on April 23, 2017, 02:12:40 PM
Le Point probably has the best map of all, with live results and comparisons with 2012:

http://presidentielle.lepoint.fr/

Currently, Le Pen does 5-10% better than in 2012.

Thank you!
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« Reply #339 on: April 23, 2017, 02:16:32 PM »
In the South, Melenchon seems to eat into Le Pen's support.
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« Reply #340 on: April 23, 2017, 02:16:35 PM »
I love how the right says the left is triggered <--- lol that word / by patriotism, I just find it funny when the extreme right who goes against democratic values and claims to be patriotic go against said values, especially in the U.S and France.
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« Reply #341 on: April 23, 2017, 02:16:58 PM »
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The Macron camp was waiving flags, must be horrifying for US Left-Wingers :-D
Patriotism triggers them.

Meanwhile at the 2016 DNC...
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« Reply #342 on: April 23, 2017, 02:17:17 PM »
is this democratic election or wtf? why candidate that didn't lost yet (fillon), calling people to vote for macron in second round, while votes still counting?
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« Reply #343 on: April 23, 2017, 02:17:37 PM »
Quote from: #TheShadowyAbyss on April 23, 2017, 02:16:35 PM
I love how the right says the left is triggered <--- lol that word / by patriotism, I just find it funny when the extreme right who goes against democratic values and claims to be patriotic go against said values, especially in the U.S and France.
Which "democratic" values? Open borders? Banning free speech?
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« Reply #344 on: April 23, 2017, 02:17:55 PM »
Quote from: Crumpets on April 23, 2017, 02:16:58 PM
Quote from: TheSaint250 on April 23, 2017, 02:14:04 PM
Quote from: Klartext89 on April 23, 2017, 02:12:48 PM

The Macron camp was waiving flags, must be horrifying for US Left-Wingers :-D
Patriotism triggers them.

Meanwhile at the 2016 DNC...


Don't burst the right wing bubble. 
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« Reply #345 on: April 23, 2017, 02:18:22 PM »
I can't help but love how RWers have have turned the reactionary and bigoted politics of Trump and Le Pen into "fighting the establishment" cause nothing quite says "sticking it to the man" like saying "immigration is a organized replacement of our population"
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« Reply #346 on: April 23, 2017, 02:19:29 PM »
The amount of f***ing idiocy I have heard since Trump got inaugurated of him being a Nazi because he says America First is disgusting.
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« Reply #347 on: April 23, 2017, 02:20:15 PM »
Quote from: Hindsight is 2020 on April 23, 2017, 02:18:22 PM
I can't help but love how RWers have have turned the reactionary and bigoted politics of Trump and Le Pen into "fighting the establishment" cause nothing quite says "sticking it to the man" like saying "immigration is a organized replacement of our population"

Why do you think I stopped calling myself right-wing and pretty much disavowed them, Trump/Le Pen are just conning everyone to acquire their power. Nothing is going to change.
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« Reply #348 on: April 23, 2017, 02:20:28 PM »
This is not a thread to settle scores from the 2016 forum.

Interesting what NDA will say.
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« Reply #349 on: April 23, 2017, 02:20:31 PM »
Le Figaro now projects

Macron 23.8%
Le Pen 21.7%
Fillon 19.8%
Melenchon 19.2%
Hamon 6.5%
Dupont-Aignan 5.0%

Converging to other projections.
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