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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #75 on: May 08, 2017, 01:39:02 AM »

Also, FBM's real share of the electorate (43.63%) is actually lower than Mitterrand's in 1988, Giscard's in 1974, and De Gaulle's in 1965. Not exactly a whopping mandate.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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« Reply #76 on: May 08, 2017, 02:25:42 AM »

If valid turnout had been comparable to 2012, FBM's percentage would only translate into 58% of the vote. Really not as impressive as it looks.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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« Reply #77 on: May 08, 2017, 03:08:18 AM »


It's gotta be trolling, right? Even alt-righters aren't that.... that.... something. I don't even know what that is.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #78 on: May 08, 2017, 04:03:09 PM »

This urban-rural gap is really striking. It's something we've never seen in France before.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #79 on: May 08, 2017, 06:14:08 PM »

Are there any figures on 2012 runoff vote vs. 2017 runoff vote?

What kind of figures? You can find all the results online, yeah.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #80 on: May 10, 2017, 01:16:40 AM »

Here's a measure of FBM's mandate in historical perspective. The percentage of registered voters won by major candidates in every election since 1965, ranked.

First round:
- De Gaulle 1965: 37.45%
- Mitterrand 1974: 36.09%
- Pompidou 1969: 34.06%
- Giscard 1974: 27.21%
- Mitterrand 1988: 27.19%
- Mitterrand 1965: 26.61%
- Sarkozy 2007: 25.74%
- Giscard 1981: 22.59%
- Hollande 2012: 22.32%
- Royal 2007: 21.36%
- Sarkozy 2012: 21.19%
- Mitterrand 1981: 20.62%
- Macron 2017: 18.19%
- Poher 1969: 17.85%
- Jospin 1995: 17.75%
- Duclos 1969: 16.29%
- Le Pen 2017: 16.14%
- Chirac 1988: 15.91%
- Chirac 1995: 15.87%
- Bayrou 2007: 15.34%
- Fillon 2017: 15.16%
- Mélenchon 2017: 14.84%
- Chirac 1981: 14.36%
- Balladur 1995: 14.15%
- Le Pen 2012: 13.95%
- Chirac 2002: 13.75%
- Barre 1988: 13.19%
- Lecanuet 1965: 13.06%
- Chaban-Delmas 1974: 12.61%
- Marchais 1981: 12.24%
- Le Pen 2002: 11.66%
- Le Pen 1988: 11.46%
- Le Pen 1995: 11.43%
- Jospin 2002: 11.19%

Second round:
- Chirac 2002: 62.00%
- De Gaulle 1965: 45.27%
- Giscard 1974: 43.78%
- Mitterrand 1988: 43.76%
- Macron 2017: 43.63%
- Mitterrand 1981: 43.16%
- Sarkozy 2007: 42.68%
- Mitterrand 1974: 42.39%
- Giscard 1981: 40.23%
- Chirac 1995: 39.43%
- Hollande 2012: 39.08%
- Royal 2007: 37.75%
- Pompidou 1969: 37.51%
- Chirac 1988: 37.25%
- Mitterrand 1965: 36.74%
- Sarkozy 2012: 36.60%
- Jospin 1995: 35.47%
- Poher 1969: 26.93%
- Le Pen 2017: 22.38%
- Le Pen 2002: 13.41%

So, depending on how you look at it, FBM's performance is either mediocre or solid by historical standards.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,081
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #81 on: May 10, 2017, 01:23:11 AM »

He did better winning a percentage of all voters in the second round than Hollande, Sarko in 2007 and Mitterrand in 81. I'm actually impressed.

The other way to look at it is that he did 18 points worse than the only other person who faced a far-right candidate.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,081
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #82 on: May 10, 2017, 06:53:27 PM »

He did better winning a percentage of all voters in the second round than Hollande, Sarko in 2007 and Mitterrand in 81. I'm actually impressed.

The other way to look at it is that he did 18 points worse than the only other person who faced a far-right candidate.
...in a completely different world scenario...

A world scenario that people like him are responsible for, yes.
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