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« Reply #1625 on: May 09, 2017, 09:48:52 AM »

Fun side-fact:

Macron's winning margin over Le Pen (32.2%) was the same as Hillary's winning margin over Trump in Hawaii (32.2%).

CA for slightly closer (H+30%).

Vienna was VdB+31.4%.

Where can I find the results by... precinct(?) for overseas voters?

On this link you can find a clickable map for results by country and PDF for results by country, by consulate areas and I guess their overseas legislative constituencies.

http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/services-aux-citoyens/actualites/article/election-presidentielle-retrouvez-les-resultats-du-second-tour-pour-les
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« Reply #1626 on: May 09, 2017, 10:02:41 AM »

Results from Portugal:

3,484 85.7% Macron
   582 14.3% Le Pen

   226   5.3% Blank/ Invalid

4,292 32.7% Turnout
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« Reply #1627 on: May 09, 2017, 10:04:11 AM »

Interesting: Austrian-Frenchies had one of the highest turnouts in Europe or worldwide: 63%.

Macron beat Le Pen 93-7.
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« Reply #1628 on: May 09, 2017, 01:22:43 PM »

Marine won only two "consular circunscriptions"
Damascus, Syria (9 voters to Macron's 5)
Yekaterinburg, Russia (4-3)
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« Reply #1629 on: May 09, 2017, 01:42:13 PM »

Le Pen got 20% of the vote in the LA consulate.

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« Reply #1630 on: May 09, 2017, 02:20:18 PM »
« Edited: May 09, 2017, 02:49:22 PM by Sorenroy »

I made a quick map with Google Sheets. I'll try to make a better one when I get home, but here's a basic one:



Grey indicates that there was no voting locations within that country. The only acceptations to this were Tajikistan and Yemen, where voting places were provided but no one showed up, and Burma, where Google Sheets did not recognize the current name of the country (it voted 246-35, or 88%-12%, for Macron).
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« Reply #1631 on: May 09, 2017, 02:27:47 PM »

95% for Macron in UK, with a high number of voters and a high turnout.
Those who are experiencing exit from the EU don't want to get anywhere close to it...
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« Reply #1632 on: May 09, 2017, 02:35:39 PM »

Somehow weird that Congo-Brazzaville doesn't have any French votes - considering it was a French colony. I thought there'd be at least a few French people left there.

The other grey areas are understandable though.
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« Reply #1633 on: May 09, 2017, 02:41:16 PM »

11.47% of votes cast were Blank and null ballots.  I assume most of them were  Mélenchon voters.

Probably reasonably close to a majority of those were Melenchon voters, though a fair number were probably Fillon voters as well, with some Hamon and DuPont-Aignan voters and of course a large portion of the people who voted for fringe candidates in the first round. Plus 2.57% cast blank or null ballots in the first round already.

This is from polling results of those who supported the top 5 candidates in the first round:
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« Reply #1634 on: May 09, 2017, 02:43:44 PM »

11.47% of votes cast were Blank and null ballots.  I assume most of them were  Mélenchon voters.

Probably reasonably close to a majority of those were Melenchon voters, though a fair number were probably Fillon voters as well, with some Hamon and DuPont-Aignan voters and of course a large portion of the people who voted for fringe candidates in the first round. Plus 2.57% cast blank or null ballots in the first round already.

This is from polling results of those who supported the top 5 candidates in the first round:


That's not everyone who voted blank/null, though. One, it includes abstentions as well as blank/null votes. Two, it doesn't include anyone who voted for other candidates in the first round than those listed (which was nearly 10% of the vote). Three, it doesn't include people who voted blank/null in the first round (which was another 2.5%).
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« Reply #1635 on: May 09, 2017, 02:44:29 PM »

Somehow weird that Congo-Brazzaville doesn't have any French votes - considering it was a French colony. I thought there'd be at least a few French people left there.

The other grey areas are understandable though.

It's not that there were no voters, it's that there was no polling place within the country (I think we're both talking about the Republic of the Congo). The only two countries that had open voting locations that also had zero voters were Tajikistan and Yemen.
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« Reply #1636 on: May 09, 2017, 03:51:54 PM »
« Edited: May 09, 2017, 03:54:04 PM by Alex »

I made a quick map with Google Sheets. I'll try to make a better one when I get home, but here's a basic one:



Grey indicates that there was no voting locations within that country. The only acceptations to this were Tajikistan and Yemen, where voting places were provided but no one showed up, and Burma, where Google Sheets did not recognize the current name of the country (it voted 246-35, or 88%-12%, for Macron).

There were voting locations in Asuncion, Paraguay, but for some reason it's considered part of Argentina for voting purposes, under the name Assomption
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« Reply #1637 on: May 09, 2017, 05:41:30 PM »

I made a quick map with Google Sheets. I'll try to make a better one when I get home, but here's a basic one:



Grey indicates that there was no voting locations within that country. The only acceptations to this were Tajikistan and Yemen, where voting places were provided but no one showed up, and Burma, where Google Sheets did not recognize the current name of the country (it voted 246-35, or 88%-12%, for Macron).

Here's another image. The only difference is that I included Burma, and the scale now is from roughly 32.2%-100%. This makes it so that orange is above the overall percentage for Macron, and blue is below.



As a note, French Guiana went to Macron 21,769-11,777 (65%-35%)

There were voting locations in Asuncion, Paraguay, but for some reason it's considered part of Argentina for voting purposes, under the name Assomption

That makes Paraguay (the landlocked country in South America) 200-116 (63%-37%) Macron.



Source (thanks Poirot): http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/services-aux-citoyens/actualites/article/election-presidentielle-retrouvez-les-resultats-du-second-tour-pour-les
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« Reply #1638 on: May 09, 2017, 08:51:08 PM »

Le Pen got 20% of the vote in the LA consulate.

I think it's Miami consulate constituency 20%, LA 11%.
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« Reply #1639 on: May 10, 2017, 01:16:40 AM »

Here's a measure of FBM's mandate in historical perspective. The percentage of registered voters won by major candidates in every election since 1965, ranked.

First round:
- De Gaulle 1965: 37.45%
- Mitterrand 1974: 36.09%
- Pompidou 1969: 34.06%
- Giscard 1974: 27.21%
- Mitterrand 1988: 27.19%
- Mitterrand 1965: 26.61%
- Sarkozy 2007: 25.74%
- Giscard 1981: 22.59%
- Hollande 2012: 22.32%
- Royal 2007: 21.36%
- Sarkozy 2012: 21.19%
- Mitterrand 1981: 20.62%
- Macron 2017: 18.19%
- Poher 1969: 17.85%
- Jospin 1995: 17.75%
- Duclos 1969: 16.29%
- Le Pen 2017: 16.14%
- Chirac 1988: 15.91%
- Chirac 1995: 15.87%
- Bayrou 2007: 15.34%
- Fillon 2017: 15.16%
- Mélenchon 2017: 14.84%
- Chirac 1981: 14.36%
- Balladur 1995: 14.15%
- Le Pen 2012: 13.95%
- Chirac 2002: 13.75%
- Barre 1988: 13.19%
- Lecanuet 1965: 13.06%
- Chaban-Delmas 1974: 12.61%
- Marchais 1981: 12.24%
- Le Pen 2002: 11.66%
- Le Pen 1988: 11.46%
- Le Pen 1995: 11.43%
- Jospin 2002: 11.19%

Second round:
- Chirac 2002: 62.00%
- De Gaulle 1965: 45.27%
- Giscard 1974: 43.78%
- Mitterrand 1988: 43.76%
- Macron 2017: 43.63%
- Mitterrand 1981: 43.16%
- Sarkozy 2007: 42.68%
- Mitterrand 1974: 42.39%
- Giscard 1981: 40.23%
- Chirac 1995: 39.43%
- Hollande 2012: 39.08%
- Royal 2007: 37.75%
- Pompidou 1969: 37.51%
- Chirac 1988: 37.25%
- Mitterrand 1965: 36.74%
- Sarkozy 2012: 36.60%
- Jospin 1995: 35.47%
- Poher 1969: 26.93%
- Le Pen 2017: 22.38%
- Le Pen 2002: 13.41%

So, depending on how you look at it, FBM's performance is either mediocre or solid by historical standards.
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« Reply #1640 on: May 10, 2017, 01:20:36 AM »

He did better winning a percentage of all voters in the second round than Hollande, Sarko in 2007 and Mitterrand in 81. I'm actually impressed.
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« Reply #1641 on: May 10, 2017, 01:23:11 AM »

He did better winning a percentage of all voters in the second round than Hollande, Sarko in 2007 and Mitterrand in 81. I'm actually impressed.

The other way to look at it is that he did 18 points worse than the only other person who faced a far-right candidate.
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« Reply #1642 on: May 10, 2017, 02:34:41 AM »

He did better winning a percentage of all voters in the second round than Hollande, Sarko in 2007 and Mitterrand in 81. I'm actually impressed.

The other way to look at it is that he did 18 points worse than the only other person who faced a far-right candidate.
...in a completely different world scenario...
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« Reply #1643 on: May 10, 2017, 09:23:40 AM »

By the way, why do the results for overseas voting locations make a differentiation between Israel and Jerusalem?
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« Reply #1644 on: May 10, 2017, 09:29:39 AM »

By the way, why do the results for overseas voting locations make a differentiation between Israel and Jerusalem?
Because I guess Jerusalem isn't part of Israël???
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« Reply #1645 on: May 10, 2017, 09:39:55 AM »

By the way, why do the results for overseas voting locations make a differentiation between Israel and Jerusalem?
Because I guess Jerusalem isn't part of Israël???

Am I missing something here? Is Jerusalem not the capital of Israel? Everything else on the webpage is by country, why is there a distinction? Is Jerusalem there to represent Palestine?
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« Reply #1646 on: May 10, 2017, 10:28:52 AM »

By the way, why do the results for overseas voting locations make a differentiation between Israel and Jerusalem?
Because I guess Jerusalem isn't part of Israël???

Am I missing something here? Is Jerusalem not the capital of Israel? Everything else on the webpage is by country, why is there a distinction? Is Jerusalem there to represent Palestine?
Tel Aviv is internationally recognized as the capital of Israel, and many nations do not recognize Israeli authority over the whole of Jerusalem because it violates an Israeli-Palestinian agreement.
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« Reply #1647 on: May 10, 2017, 10:33:36 AM »
« Edited: May 10, 2017, 10:35:27 AM by Tintrlvr »

By the way, why do the results for overseas voting locations make a differentiation between Israel and Jerusalem?
Because I guess Jerusalem isn't part of Israël???

Am I missing something here? Is Jerusalem not the capital of Israel? Everything else on the webpage is by country, why is there a distinction? Is Jerusalem there to represent Palestine?

The European Union officially recognizes Jerusalem as a "corpus separatum," not a part of Israel. France takes that more seriously than some other countries.

Israel only officially declared Jerusalem its capital in 1980. France, like the US and many other countries, officially recognizes Tel Aviv as its capital.
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« Reply #1648 on: May 10, 2017, 10:39:18 AM »

The UN does not recognize Jerusalem as part of Israel going by the pre-67 borders, it will either be jointly/internationally controlled or be separated into West & East Jerusalem as per the international community. Jerusalem is the 3rd holy site of Islam & is a sensitive issue for many Arabs & Palestine people.

Besides the entire military occupation of West Bank is considered illegal. Tel Aviv is the capital of Israel. I don't think UN or international bodies will ever recognize Jerusalem as the capital, it will cause worldwide chaos & riots in many areas !
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« Reply #1649 on: May 10, 2017, 10:45:12 AM »

Thanks for the clarifications guys. I guess I just didn't know enough about the region.

Just to clarify: Jerusalem is more of a neutral zone, nether Israeli or Palestinian. Or, at lest, that's the way France considers it for its elections.
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