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« on: August 02, 2005, 01:04:26 PM »

I am speechless -it's one thing to privately advocate that creationism or intelligent design be taught in public schools, but it is quite another to announce it publicly as a matter of national policy, which President Bush has effectively done, using the power of the bully pulpit.....

Bush endorses teaching "intelligent design" in schools

By Ron Hutcheson
Knight Ridder Newspapers

WASHINGTON — President Bush waded into the debate over evolution and "intelligent design" yesterday, saying schools should teach both on the origins and complexity of life.

In a wide-ranging question-and-answer session with a small group of reporters, Bush essentially endorsed efforts by Christian conservatives to give intelligent design equal standing with evolution in the nation's schools.

Proponents of intelligent design suggest that the complexity of life forms cannot be explained by evolutionary theory alone but rather points to intentional creation, presumably divine.

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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2005, 01:05:40 PM »

I thought Bush only enodorsed "sound" science. It's not even science. What a ing hypocrite.
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2005, 01:05:48 PM »

The federal government should have nothing to do with the curriculum in the first place.
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2005, 01:38:40 PM »

sh**t even the Catholic Church is pro-evolution. Why must we have such a ing backwards President? Get this creationist idiot out of office ASAP.
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2005, 01:43:23 PM »

Sounds reasonable.

The federal government should have nothing to do with the curriculum in the first place.

This is just his view point. He's not trying to set the curriculum.
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2005, 01:43:50 PM »

It's tragic that the leader of the world's leading technological superpower would endorse such backwards, primitive education.
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2005, 01:46:18 PM »

And that has any relevance because?
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2005, 01:47:38 PM »

The federal government should have nothing to do with the curriculum in the first place.

This is just his view point. He's not trying to set the curriculum.

Let's hope that's the case - there aren't many federal officials I trust not to force their views on the states, and Bush ain't one of them.
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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2005, 01:51:37 PM »


Let's hope that's the case - there aren't many federal officials I trust not to force their views on the states, and Bush ain't one of them.

You're a completely blind fool. California has had the feds force illegal medicinal marijuana, and ignoring of state environmental laws on them. Bush had the feds force Florida to end its recount in Bush vs. Gore.

He said he didn't trust him dumbass.
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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2005, 01:52:26 PM »

Sounds reasonable.

The federal government should have nothing to do with the curriculum in the first place.

This is just his view point. He's not trying to set the curriculum.

It's an unreasonable view point, and how do you know that he won't try and mandate it?
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2005, 01:57:22 PM »

You're not a very good judge of what is reasonable.

I didn't say he won't try to mandate it. I said he isn't at the moment trying to mandate it, just by saying this.
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2005, 01:58:20 PM »


Let's hope that's the case - there aren't many federal officials I trust not to force their views on the states, and Bush ain't one of them.

You're a completely blind fool. California has had the feds force illegal medicinal marijuana, and ignoring of state environmental laws on them. Bush had the feds force Florida to end its recount in Bush vs. Gore.

He said he didn't trust him dumbass.

LOL, slow down chief, be careful when you are reading stuff. Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2005, 01:59:16 PM »


Let's hope that's the case - there aren't many federal officials I trust not to force their views on the states, and Bush ain't one of them.

You're a completely blind fool. California has had the feds force illegal medicinal marijuana, and ignoring of state environmental laws on them. Bush had the feds force Florida to end its recount in Bush vs. Gore.

He said he didn't trust him dumbass.

LOL, slow down chief, be careful when you are reading stuff. Smiley

By he I mean you.
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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2005, 02:00:14 PM »

You're not a very good judge of what is reasonable.

I didn't say he won't try to mandate it. I said he isn't at the moment trying to mandate it, just by saying this.
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I am pro-science, so I  agree with the AAAS that non-scientific theories like intelligent design have no place in a science classroom.
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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2005, 02:01:36 PM »


Let's hope that's the case - there aren't many federal officials I trust not to force their views on the states, and Bush ain't one of them.

You're a completely blind fool. California has had the feds force illegal medicinal marijuana, and ignoring of state environmental laws on them. Bush had the feds force Florida to end its recount in Bush vs. Gore.

He said he didn't trust him dumbass.

LOL, slow down chief, be careful when you are reading stuff. Smiley

By he I mean you.

By chief I mean jfern. Wink
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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2005, 02:09:22 PM »


Let's hope that's the case - there aren't many federal officials I trust not to force their views on the states, and Bush ain't one of them.

You're a completely blind fool. California has had the feds force illegal medicinal marijuana, and ignoring of state environmental laws on them. Bush had the feds force Florida to end its recount in Bush vs. Gore.

He said he didn't trust him dumbass.

LOL, slow down chief, be careful when you are reading stuff. Smiley

By he I mean you.

By chief I mean jfern. Wink

Oh, lol. Sorry, I think I have male PMS.
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« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2005, 02:15:32 PM »

The federal government should have nothing to do with the curriculum in the first place.
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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2005, 02:21:03 PM »

While I agree with that statement the curriculum SHOULD have something to do with science and reason as well as blind faith.
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« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2005, 02:25:52 PM »


WASHINGTON — President Bush waded into the debate over evolution and "intelligent design" yesterday, saying schools should teach both on the origins and complexity of life.

HELLO!!!  This is what us "realists" have been saying for years now.  Teach evolution in a science course and teach creationism in English or History.  Sadly enough, Christian creationism is stripped out of some schools curriculum while the creation stories of other religions are taught.  Talk about censorship.

And no, he's not setting national policy.  He's expressing his opinion, like many other Presidents before him.
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« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2005, 02:30:48 PM »

Intelligent Design is, basically, evolution with the phrase "God caused it" appended on to the end.
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« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2005, 02:38:26 PM »

Intelligent Design is, basically, evolution with the phrase "God caused it" appended on to the end.

Uh, no.
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« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2005, 09:16:42 AM »

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=24250.0
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« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2005, 09:26:45 AM »

As far as I'm concerned the Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design should all be taught in public schools - let students make up their own minds

Where do I stand on the whole 'origins' issue? I accept evolution but believe it was God-ordained

God exists until such time as science can falsify his existence. They said Galileo "abolished" the Heaven's. Poppy-cock, he just couldn't see that far Wink

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« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2005, 09:28:29 AM »

God exists until such time as science can falsify his existence.

Uh, no. Science ignores God until proof of existence or non-existence can be established either way.
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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2005, 09:32:10 AM »

God exists until such time as science can falsify his existence.

Uh, no. Science ignores God until proof of existence or non-existence can be established either way.
Precisely. In science, the existence of God is a moot point, and is completely ignored. And in logic, Hawk's argument is fallacious.
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