Alabama Megathread: Bombshell allegations

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I'm sure this has been asked before, but can Strange pull a Cochran and get Democrats to vote for him in the runoff?  I don't know what Alabama law says on runoffs.

God, I remember people here saying "I hope McDaniel beats Cochran, so we can pick up this seat like we did in Indiana". Yeah, it wouldn't happen in Mississippi, and picking up Alabama won't happen now either. It's between a generic Republican hack (Strange) and utterly despicable human being (Moore).  

[Lord Admirale]

Come on Doug Jones; you can defeat this idiot!

[The Govanah Jake]

Who would win in a three way race?

Most Likely Moore since he would take most of the Republican vote. Strange would make the race more competitive then it should be but in the end i would think Moore would come on top with most of the republican base minus the suburban voters, wealthier republicans, and other groups like these that could be receptive to voting for Strange.

Roy Moore: 44.7%
Doug Jones: 35.1%
Luther Strange: 18.3%

I think a three way race would be competitive. Strange wins wealthy Republicans, suburban Republicans, and Blue Dog Democrats. I think Moore and Strange would be in a very close race with Jones finishing third. I don't know who would win.

Roy Moore 34% and Luther Strange 34%
Doug Jones 32%

I'd think Jones would at least place second due to a split republican vote.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

http://yellowhammernews.com/featured/debate-gate-the-alabama-senate-race-gets-even-moore-strange-lhuff/

So the Moore September Stumbles list is now:

- Aleppo moments on DACA and national right to work
- Holding a fundraiser with a Never-Trumper
- Suggesting he is open to the idea of executing gays
- Refusing to debate Strange

Is he trying to lose the primary?

[Alabama_Indy10]

I wouldn't say this is necessarily a bad thing for Moore. The people hosting the debate have ties to the Senate Leadership Fund that has been dropping big bucks against Moore.

[Holmes]

He's an idiot but he'll win the primary.

Hopefully he debates Jones in the general.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I can see awesome ads coming

[Greedo punched first]

Who would win in a three way race?

Most Likely Moore since he would take most of the Republican vote. Strange would make the race more competitive then it should be but in the end i would think Moore would come on top with most of the republican base minus the suburban voters, wealthier republicans, and other groups like these that could be receptive to voting for Strange.

Roy Moore: 44.7%
Doug Jones: 35.1%
Luther Strange: 18.3%

I think a three way race would be competitive. Strange wins wealthy Republicans, suburban Republicans, and Blue Dog Democrats. I think Moore and Strange would be in a very close race with Jones finishing third. I don't know who would win.

Roy Moore 34% and Luther Strange 34%
Doug Jones 32%

I'd think Jones would at least place second due to a split republican vote.

Look at this.

If Jones Places second:

Roy Moore 35%
Doug Jones 33%
Luther Strange 32%

or

Luther Strange 35%
Doug Jones 33%
Roy Moore 32%

[Maxwell]

yes. because moore can barely string two sentences together.

and he's going to wipe the floor with Strange.

[Sumner 1868]

Pointless. Moore is simply going to win.

[TheSaint250]

Yes, very much so.

[The Govanah Jake]

Who would win in a three way race?

Most Likely Moore since he would take most of the Republican vote. Strange would make the race more competitive then it should be but in the end i would think Moore would come on top with most of the republican base minus the suburban voters, wealthier republicans, and other groups like these that could be receptive to voting for Strange.

Roy Moore: 44.7%
Doug Jones: 35.1%
Luther Strange: 18.3%

I think a three way race would be competitive. Strange wins wealthy Republicans, suburban Republicans, and Blue Dog Democrats. I think Moore and Strange would be in a very close race with Jones finishing third. I don't know who would win.

Roy Moore 34% and Luther Strange 34%
Doug Jones 32%

I'd think Jones would at least place second due to a split republican vote.

Look at this.

If Jones Places second:

Roy Moore 35%
Doug Jones 33%
Luther Strange 32%

or

Luther Strange 35%
Doug Jones 33%
Roy Moore 32%

That's Alaska. Not all Write-in Movements are the same. Bernie Sanders got 5% in Vermont for example as a write in but still came far from winning and he is a senator like Strange is. But Alaska is known to support large third party/write in movements (Just look at any recent presidential elections like where Nader got 10% in 2000 or the fact that its governor is a independent Bill Walker). And also it is a much smaller state so a write in candidate like Lisa would have a much easier time there then say Alabama where it is decided in the hundreds of thousands instead of the tens of thousand in Alaska. Plus if you are trying to compare Strange to Murkowski as both moderate heroes who could, as a write-in, win over the electorate then stop because that is invalid. Murkowski is much more moderate then Strange and unlike him. For example she is generally pro-choice while he is not among others.

But now that i'm thinking about it i doubt if Strange was a write-in candidate would even get my 18.3% due to the fact that his name would not even be on the ballot and would require people to write in his name instead. What i see is now Strange is a write-in candidate and gets some endorsements from establishment and moderate GOPers. He is able to do best in the suburbs and with the demographics you list but is still crushed in each of them and gets no more then 16%. Moore still wins but since most of Strange's vote would probably vote for Moore or stay home, he would lose some. Now Jones with the full support of the Democratic Party there without any splitting on the base and with the Black Vote there is able to come in second and do better in a election where Strange did not run. So i would disagree with those numbers you mentioned respectfully in both terms as it think it would be:

Roy Moore (R): 45.2%
Doug Jones (D): 36.9%
Luther Strange (I): 16.9%

So a stronger two party vote which Alabama tends to do in Elections.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Roy is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

[McGovernForPrez]

I didn't think it was possible for a candidate to be worse than Trump, but lo and behold.

[Nyvin]

What could be moore strange?

[Cactus Jack]

I wonder if he even realizes just how dire his poll numbers have been lately.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

http://yellowhammernews.com/featured/debate-gate-the-alabama-senate-race-gets-even-moore-strange-lhuff/

So the Moore September Stumbles list is now:

- Aleppo moments on DACA and national right to work
- Holding a fundraiser with a Never-Trumper
- Suggesting he is open to the idea of executing gays
- Refusing to debate Strange

Is he trying to lose the primary?

As retarded as that may seem to us, the only thing that is likely to be seen as a negative to Alabama GOP voters is the fundraiser. The Gay Thing is probably a pro for this race, and the other ones are just neutral.

[Sir Mohamed]

Yes, because that helps the Democrat. Nevertheless, still pretty unlikely Dems have any shot at this seat.

[Figueira]

Yes, because it helps Jones and makes it less likely for Moore to win.

[Gustaf]

I don't see why he would do such a thing. Murkowski, Lieberman and any analogous situation depends on the candidate being popular with the electorate at-large (specifically with strong cross-over appeal) but unpopular with their own base. Strange, as far as I understand, is unpopular in general and as a white Alabama Republican probably has close to zero cross-over appeal to Black Democrats.

The one way such a candidate can be successful is by convincing voters they're more electable than their first choice in order to stop someone they really dislike. But Strange would start with less than half of Republicans v Jones having all of the Democrats. Why on earth would anyone think Strange more electable in that scenario?

[The Other Castro]

Strange and Moore are going to vote 99.9% exactly the same way. They both want to be Senator obviously, but they're not going to blow it for the other and risk getting a Democrat elected.

[TheSaint250]

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How does that work

[TheSaint250]

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Moore shouting like a lunatic over Strange lol
How does that work

Lol

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Moore can only gain from this.

[Cactus Jack]

Okay, this one might actually be the end of him. Executiongate was bad, but this is almost worse than Akin's career-ender.