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« Reply #1000 on: February 08, 2018, 02:20:34 PM »

1968 RFK Lives
For reference, Nixon won the PV, 43-43% (rounded) with Wallace at 14% in OTL 1968.
Nixon won 301-191-46 EVs.
Nixon won 32-13+DC states and 5 for Wallace.
Nixon won 31.8-31.3-9.9 million votes.


RFK won 18+DC, Wallace got 2, and Nixon took 30 states. (All of these are AI vs AI vs AI).
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« Reply #1001 on: February 08, 2018, 02:27:50 PM »

1968 LBJ
After an amazing upset in the primary, LBJ was nominated.
For reference, Nixon won the PV, 43-43% (rounded) with Wallace at 14% in OTL 1968.
Nixon won 301-191-46 EVs.
Nixon won 32-13+DC states and 5 for Wallace.
Nixon won 31.8-31.3-9.9 million votes.


States won were 32-17-1, ofc with DC going to the Dems. LBJ won the PV.
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« Reply #1002 on: February 08, 2018, 02:30:21 PM »

1968 Wallace
Wallace got 0.5% in the primaries in 1968. What if George Wallace had won the primary?
For reference, Nixon won the PV, 43-43% (rounded) with Wallace at 14% in OTL 1968.
Nixon won 301-191-46 EVs.
Nixon won 32-13+DC states and 5 for Wallace.
Nixon won 31.8-31.3-9.9 million votes.


Wallace won 4+DC with Nixon taking the remaining 46 states.
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« Reply #1003 on: February 08, 2018, 04:34:06 PM »

1968 Ted Kennedy
Ted Kennedy got just 5,000 votes in 1968, what if he was the nominee? (Perhaps if he ran instead of RFK).
For reference, Nixon won the PV, 43-43% (rounded) with Wallace at 14% in OTL 1968.
Nixon won 301-191-46 EVs.
Nixon won 32-13+DC states and 5 for Wallace.
Nixon won 31.8-31.3-9.9 million votes.


Kennedy won 13 states and DC, the same as Humphrey. Wallace took just two states.
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« Reply #1004 on: February 08, 2018, 04:41:10 PM »

1972 - Humphrey again
What if Humphrey was the nominee in 1972? He won the popular vote in the primary and was the 1968 nominee, what if he was renominated?
For your reference (1972 IOTL):
Nixon:
47.2 million votes
60.7% PV
49 states
520 EVs

McGovern:
29.2 million votes
37.5% PV
1 state + DC
17 EVs



Same as McGovern, one state and DC. Lost his home state (MN).
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« Reply #1005 on: February 08, 2018, 04:44:42 PM »

1972: Wallace nominated
What if Wallace won the Democratic nomination in 1972? He was a close third IOTL and came second in the number of states won.
For your reference (1972 IOTL):
Nixon:
47.2 million votes
60.7% PV
49 states
520 EVs

McGovern:
29.2 million votes
37.5% PV
1 state + DC
17 EVs


Wallace won 3 states and DC.
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« Reply #1006 on: February 08, 2018, 04:46:48 PM »

1972: Muskie
Muskie came fourth in '72, what if he won the nomination?
For your reference (1972 IOTL):
Nixon:
47.2 million votes
60.7% PV
49 states
520 EVs

McGovern:
29.2 million votes
37.5% PV
1 state + DC
17 EVs


Muskie won 2 states and DC.
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« Reply #1007 on: February 08, 2018, 04:49:44 PM »

1972: McCarthy
McCarthy got 3% in the primaries in 1972. What if he won?
For your reference (1972 IOTL):
Nixon:
47.2 million votes
60.7% PV
49 states
520 EVs

McGovern:
29.2 million votes
37.5% PV
1 state + DC
17 EVs


McCarthy won 1 state and DC.
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« Reply #1008 on: February 08, 2018, 05:07:25 PM »

1972: Scoop Jackson
Henry M. Jackson got 3% of the PV in the primary. What if he won?
For your reference (1972 IOTL):
Nixon:
47.2 million votes
60.7% PV
49 states
520 EVs

McGovern:
29.2 million votes
37.5% PV
1 state + DC
17 EVs


Nixon swept all 50 as Jackson took only DC.
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« Reply #1009 on: February 08, 2018, 05:09:21 PM »

1972: Ted Kennedy
Ted Kennedy got 16,000 votes in the primary, 0.1%. What if he won?
For your reference (1972 IOTL):
Nixon:
47.2 million votes
60.7% PV
49 states
520 EVs

McGovern:
29.2 million votes
37.5% PV
1 state + DC
17 EVs


Kennedy won 2 + Washington, D.C.
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« Reply #1010 on: February 08, 2018, 05:14:42 PM »

1972: Lindsay
John Lindsay got 200,000 votes and 1% of the primary vote. What if he won?
For your reference (1972 IOTL):
Nixon:
47.2 million votes
60.7% PV
49 states
520 EVs

McGovern:
29.2 million votes
37.5% PV
1 state + DC
17 EVs


Lindsay won 2 + Washington, D.C.
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« Reply #1011 on: February 08, 2018, 05:16:51 PM »

1972: CHISHOLM
Shirley Chisholm got 430,703 votes and 2.7% of the primary vote. What if she was the nominee?
For your reference (1972 IOTL):
Nixon:
47.2 million votes
60.7% PV
49 states
520 EVs

McGovern:
29.2 million votes
37.5% PV
1 state + DC
17 EVs


50-0, Dems take DC.
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« Reply #1012 on: February 08, 2018, 05:43:15 PM »

1980 - Alternate Democratic nominees
1980 IOTL
Reagan - 489 EVs - 44 states - 43.9 million - 50.7%
Carter - 49 EVs - 6+DC - 35.5 million - 41%
Anderson - 0 EVs - 0 - 5.7 million - 6.6%
If Ted Kennedy was successful in unseating President Carter


Carter doesn't run in 1980 and Byrd triumphs over a divided field. Democratic nominee, Robert Byrd.


If third place finisher took Kennedy's place as the main challenger to Carter and won the nomination. Democratic nominee Jerry Brown.


Dale's Landslide - Democrat Dale Bumpers becomes the nominee after Carter refuses a 1980 run


Vice President Mondale challenges Carter and wins a heated contest in the primary


Muskie comes back for a primary contest and wins when Carter doesn't run in 1980

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« Reply #1013 on: February 08, 2018, 06:06:03 PM »

1984 Alternate Democratic nominees
Reagan - 525 EVs - 49 states - 54.5 million - 58.8%
Mondale - 13 EVs - 1+DC - 37.6 million - 40.6%
Joe Biden runs and wins the Democratic nomination

John Glenn wins the Democratic nomination

McGovern received 4 delegates at the 1984 convention, what if he was renominated
(Fixed but I have typed McGovern as McGovernor three times today).

Gary Hart. Democratic nominee.

Jesse Jackson wins the nomination


Map same for all races above
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« Reply #1014 on: February 08, 2018, 06:25:50 PM »
« Edited: February 08, 2018, 06:28:03 PM by West_Midlander »

1988 Alternate Democratic nominees
Bush - 426 EVs - 40 states - 48.9 million - 53.4%
Dukakis - 111 EVs - 10+DC - 41.8 million - 45.6%
All the other Democrats who ran in the primary lost to Bush, so I'll just post the one who won


A tangent from one of the previous results: Bumpers reelection campaign 1984.
Loses 384-154 and 52-48%. I would think Reagan would do similarly though his crushing 1980 loss is probably enough to keep him away from the nomination in 1984.
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« Reply #1015 on: February 08, 2018, 06:34:35 PM »
« Edited: February 08, 2018, 06:36:45 PM by West_Midlander »

1972
President Kennedy (won in 1968 in one of my previous maps) runs for re-election against now three-time Republican nominee Richard Nixon. Nixon was eager to run again and Reagan wanting to stay friendly with the higher ups of the RNC endorsed him instead of running himself.

The former Vice President announces his retirement from politics after his second loss to Kennedy. A major loss in the electoral college of 386-152. The popular vote margin was considerable at 53-47%.
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« Reply #1016 on: February 08, 2018, 06:38:26 PM »

1972
Surprisingly a right wing third party campaign didn't hurt Nixon but helped him in the electoral college. Nixon lost much more PV support than McGovern to Reagan, but retained a majority and won all 50 states. After a bloody primary battle in 1968, Reagan stormed out of the convention and declared an Independent Republican run for President.
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« Reply #1017 on: February 09, 2018, 05:55:35 PM »

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« Reply #1018 on: February 09, 2018, 05:58:11 PM »

The Seventy-One Naders?
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« Reply #1019 on: February 09, 2018, 06:23:19 PM »


Uhhhhh....God/Jesus (I) vs. Jeff Merkley (D) vs. Ben Sasse/Mitt Romney (R)?
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« Reply #1020 on: February 09, 2018, 06:29:40 PM »

No on both.
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« Reply #1021 on: February 09, 2018, 06:37:57 PM »

Wouldn't picking Jesus as a running mate make Him easy to accuse of nepotism?
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« Reply #1022 on: February 10, 2018, 12:17:11 AM »



2016 without any counties that voted Landon 1936.
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« Reply #1023 on: February 10, 2018, 01:21:58 AM »

1996: ‘64 all over again:



President Al Gore/Vice President Lee Hamilton: 495 Electoral Votes, 57.8%
Fmr. WH Comms. Dir. Pat Buchanan/Rep. Bob Dornan: 43 Electoral Votes, 41.2%

In September 1994, President Clinton was shot while visiting a diner and campaigning for Democratic candidates in Boulder, Colorado. The shooter was identified as a radical former Ross Perot/Pat Buchanan supporter who had communist tendencies, John Lee Jefferson, who was executed four months later. This incident put the country in a state of disarray. President Gore was sworn in, and decided to select Representative Lee Hamilton as Vice President, and he was confirmed by the Senate. The ticket stressed the progress Bill Clinton had made in office, while focusing on what President Gore was going to do in office. The main candidates for the Republicans decided to skip this election, causing Republican Pat Buchanan to narrowly win the nomination. President Gore easily crushes the Buchanan/Dornan ticket come November.
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« Reply #1024 on: February 10, 2018, 01:51:49 PM »

1996: ‘64 all over again:



President Al Gore/Vice President Lee Hamilton: 495 Electoral Votes, 57.8%
Fmr. WH Comms. Dir. Pat Buchanan/Rep. Bob Dornan: 43 Electoral Votes, 41.2%

In September 1994, President Clinton was shot while visiting a diner and campaigning for Democratic candidates in Boulder, Colorado. The shooter was identified as a radical former Ross Perot/Pat Buchanan supporter who had communist tendencies, John Lee Jefferson, who was executed four months later. This incident put the country in a state of disarray. President Gore was sworn in, and decided to select Representative Lee Hamilton as Vice President, and he was confirmed by the Senate. The ticket stressed the progress Bill Clinton had made in office, while focusing on what President Gore was going to do in office. The main candidates for the Republicans decided to skip this election, causing Republican Pat Buchanan to narrowly win the nomination. President Gore easily crushes the Buchanan/Dornan ticket come November.
I wonder how 2000 turns out in this timeline...
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