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« on: February 22, 2019, 12:46:54 AM »

1969-1973: Hubert Humphrey/Edmund Muskie
1973-1979: Ronald Reagan/Nelson Rockefeller
1979: Ronald Reagan/Vacant
1979-1981: Ronald Reagan/John Connally
1981-1989: Ted Kennedy/Dale Bumpers
1989-1997: Pierre du Pont/Bob Dole
1997-2005: Ann Richards/Dick Gephardt
2005-2009: Mike Huckabee/Carly Fiorina
2009-2017: Howard Dean/Carol Moseley Braun
2017-present: Charlie Baker/Tim Scott
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2020, 01:13:38 AM »

1961-1963: John F. Kennedy/Lyndon B. Johnson
1963-1965: Lyndon B. Johnson/Vacant
1965-1972: Lyndon B. Johnson/Henry M. Jackson
1972: Henry M. Jackson/Vacant
1972-1977: Henry M. Jackson/Robert F. Kennedy
1977-1981: Ronald Reagan/Roger MacBride
1981-1989: Robert F. Kennedy/Gary Hart
1989-1997: Thomas Kean/Bob Dole
1997-2005: Ann Richards/John Kerry
2005-2013: Mike Huckabee/John Kasich
2013-2017: John Kasich/Christine O'Donnell
2017-present: Michael Pence/Cory Booker

POD: LBJ picks Scoop Jackson as his VP instead of HHH. This butterflies into LBJ running and winning in 1968.

Jackson runs for President in 1972, but LBJ dies of a heart attack in October 1972 - the "October Surprise". Jackson becomes President a month before the election, and is elected to a term in his own right one month later. If somewhat redundantly, Vice President-elect Robert Kennedy is confirmed to the Vice Presidency a week later, rather than in January. The duo is inaugurated "again" in January. (Note that since Jackson is serving less than two years of LBJ's final term, he can run for two terms in his own right)

The rise of drug use and escalating Vietnam War makes Jackson and the Democrats unpopular. Ronald Reagan and Roger MacBride are elected - despite less than two years of experience between the two (Reagan had only served as a congressman from California for a single term, and MacBride had never been elected to office) they are elected in a landslide against the incumbent.

Their lack of experience shows and Reagan goes down as a rather ineffectual President. Former Vice President Robert Kennedy and Senator Gary Hart are easily elected in 1980.

After a series of popular "Great New Deal" programs and defeating the USSR by 1983, Kenendy-Hart make history by winning all 538 electoral votes and 65% of the popular vote in 1984. Even Republican nominee John Connally's home state of Texas voted for the Democrats by less than 1,000 votes.

Republicans make a comeback in 1988 with a ticket of Thomas Kean and Bob Dole. The "boring" Governor managed to eek out a narrow 270 electoral vote victory over Vice President Gary Hart after Hart was discovered to be having an affair - on a boat called "Monkey Business" no less.

Kean and Dole are easily re-elected over Senator Jimmy Carter - the Democrats' attempt to nominate a virtuous man as a contrast to the sleazy Hart proved fruitless, and Kean won over 300 electoral votes in 1992.

Ann Richards made history in 1996 when she was the first woman elected President. She is re-elected in a moderate victory in 2000 (also the first election in which Washington DC voted as a state, after being granted statehood in 1997), but her second term proves to less popular than her first. Vice President John Kerry loses to Arkansas Senator Mike Huckabee in the "Republican Revolution" of 2004, which saw a resurgence of the religious right after a slight decline in the early 2000s.

Huckabee proves to be a controversial President, and is only narrowly re-elected in 2008 - though many speculate this is in part due to massive voter suppression by the right. Attorney General Mitch McConnell, of course, found no wrongdoing.

Mild-mannered Vice President John Kasich proves to be less offensive to moderates and is elected quite easily over progressive firebrand and New York City Mayor Bill De Blasio.

Kasich's presidency would not be an easy road. A mild recession followed by a fumbled-response to the Pakistani-Indian border crisis made Senator Michael Pence, a Democrat from Indiana, the favorite to win. Pence picked DC Governor Cory Booker as his running mate, who made history as the first African-American Vice President.
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2020, 12:02:47 PM »

1961-1963: John F. Kennedy/Lyndon B. Johnson
1963-1965: Lyndon B. Johnson/Vacant
1965-1972: Lyndon B. Johnson/Henry M. Jackson
1972: Henry M. Jackson/Vacant
1972-1977: Henry M. Jackson/Robert F. Kennedy
1977-1981: Ronald Reagan/Roger MacBride
1981-1989: Robert F. Kennedy/Gary Hart
1989-1997: Thomas Kean/Bob Dole
1997-2005: Ann Richards/John Kerry
2005-2013: Mike Huckabee/John Kasich
2013-2017: John Kasich/Christine O'Donnell
2017-present: Michael Pence/Cory Booker

POD: LBJ picks Scoop Jackson as his VP instead of HHH. This butterflies into LBJ running and winning in 1968.

Jackson runs for President in 1972, but LBJ dies of a heart attack in October 1972 - the "October Surprise". Jackson becomes President a month before the election, and is elected to a term in his own right one month later. If somewhat redundantly, Vice President-elect Robert Kennedy is confirmed to the Vice Presidency a week later, rather than in January. The duo is inaugurated "again" in January. (Note that since Jackson is serving less than two years of LBJ's final term, he can run for two terms in his own right)

The rise of drug use and escalating Vietnam War makes Jackson and the Democrats unpopular. Ronald Reagan and Roger MacBride are elected - despite less than two years of experience between the two (Reagan had only served as a congressman from California for a single term, and MacBride had never been elected to office) they are elected in a landslide against the incumbent.

Their lack of experience shows and Reagan goes down as a rather ineffectual President. Former Vice President Robert Kennedy and Senator Gary Hart are easily elected in 1980.

After a series of popular "Great New Deal" programs and defeating the USSR by 1983, Kenendy-Hart make history by winning all 538 electoral votes and 65% of the popular vote in 1984. Even Republican nominee John Connally's home state of Texas voted for the Democrats by less than 1,000 votes.

Republicans make a comeback in 1988 with a ticket of Thomas Kean and Bob Dole. The "boring" Governor managed to eek out a narrow 270 electoral vote victory over Vice President Gary Hart after Hart was discovered to be having an affair - on a boat called "Monkey Business" no less.

Kean and Dole are easily re-elected over Senator Jimmy Carter - the Democrats' attempt to nominate a virtuous man as a contrast to the sleazy Hart proved fruitless, and Kean won over 300 electoral votes in 1992.

Ann Richards made history in 1996 when she was the first woman elected President. She is re-elected in a moderate victory in 2000 (also the first election in which Washington DC voted as a state, after being granted statehood in 1997), but her second term proves to less popular than her first. Vice President John Kerry loses to Arkansas Senator Mike Huckabee in the "Republican Revolution" of 2004, which saw a resurgence of the religious right after a slight decline in the early 2000s.

Huckabee proves to be a controversial President, and is only narrowly re-elected in 2008 - though many speculate this is in part due to massive voter suppression by the right. Attorney General Mitch McConnell, of course, found no wrongdoing.

Mild-mannered Vice President John Kasich proves to be less offensive to moderates and is elected quite easily over progressive firebrand and New York City Mayor Bill De Blasio.

Kasich's presidency would not be an easy road. A mild recession followed by a fumbled-response to the Pakistani-Indian border crisis made Senator Michael Pence, a Democrat from Indiana, the favorite to win. Pence picked DC Governor Cory Booker as his running mate, who made history as the first African-American Vice President.

Is Michael Pence the same person who in real life is the Republican Vice President, or just a homonym?

(P.S. Do you have a particular disaffection for Mike Huckabee?)

Yes, Michael Pence was supposed to be the real life VP. He was raised in a Democratic family, and I just thought it would be a funny affect of a 1960s POD.

It's not Huckabee in particular as much as I dislike the religious right.
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2020, 04:19:28 PM »


Is Michael Pence the same person who in real life is the Republican Vice President, or just a homonym?

(P.S. Do you have a particular disaffection for Mike Huckabee?)

Yes, Michael Pence was supposed to be the real life VP. He was raised in a Democratic family, and I just thought it would be a funny affect of a 1960s POD.

It's not Huckabee in particular as much as I dislike the religious right.

I see.
I have a particular affection for Huckabee instead, because I love the idea of a tax-and-spend Republican and he comes off to me as much less annoying on the "religious right" stuff than, say, Rick Santorum (someone who has been compared a lot to Huckabee)§
So you got me triggered a bit, I would have preferred to see Reagan (or even Kean) aided by voter suppression and what not.


§ Which is a comparison I hate, I think Santorum has been a fake populist with neocon tendencies (reminds me someone *cough* Tom Cotton *cough*), who has done everything he could to alienate his fellow Catholics and who by the way was pro-choice until he ran for Congress, which sounds very suspect.

Fair enough, I'd have been just as happy to pick Santorum. Huck was just the first one to come to mind.
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2020, 12:26:44 PM »

Same Presidents, Different Order

1961-1969: Lyndon B. Johnson/Hubert Humphrey
  • def. 1960: Richard Nixon/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
  • def. 1964: Barry Goldwater/William E. Miller
1969-1973: Ronald Reagan/George Romney
  • def. 1968: Hubert Humphrey/Birch Bayh
1973-1981: Jimmy Carter/John F. Kennedy
  • def. 1972: Ronald Reagan/George Romney
  • def. 1976: Roger MacBride/Bob Dole
1981-1989: Richard Nixon/Donald Rumsfeld
  • def. 1980: John F. Kennedy/Cliff Finch
  • def. 1984: John Glenn/Dianne Feinstein
1989-1993: John F. Kennedy/Dick Gephardt
  • def. 1988: Donald Rumsfeld/Dick Cheney
1993-1997: George H. W. Bush/Thomas Kean Sr.
  • def. 1992: John F. Kennedy/Dick Gephardt
1997-2001: Donald Trump/Jerry Brown
  • def. 1996: George H. W. Bush/Thomas Kean Sr.
2001-2009: Joe Biden/Mary Landrieu*
  • def. 2000: John McCain/Tom Ridge; Donald Trump/Alan Keyes
  • def. 2004: James C. Smith/Jack Rains
2009-2013: George W. Bush/Brett Kavanaugh
  • def. 2008: Mary Landrieu/Steve Westly
2013-2021: Bill Clinton/Barack Obama
  • def. 2012: George W. Bush/Ruth Johnson**
  • def. 2016: Anne Northup/Thomas Kean Jr.
2021-present: Barack Obama/Caroline Kennedy
  • def. 2020: Mike Erickson/Christine Jones

Notes:
*: Senator Joe Biden launched a successful primary campaign against incumbent Democratic President Donald Trump, who responded with an independent bid.
**: Vice President Brett Kavanaugh was dropped from the 2012 Republican ticket after sexual assault allegations were uncovered. He was replaced with Michigan Governor Ruth Johnson.
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2020, 04:16:13 PM »

45. Donald Trump Sr. (R-NY) / Mike Pence (R-IN) (2017-2021)
2016: def. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Tim Kaine (D-VA)

46. Joe Biden (D-DE) / Kamala Harris (D-CA) (2021-2025)
2020: def. Donald Trump Sr. (D-FL) / Mike Pence (R-IN)

47. Kamala Harris (D-CA) / Roy Cooper (D-NC) (2025-2033)
2024: def. Tucker Carlson (R-DC) / Ron De Santis (R-FL)
2028: def. Tom Cotton (R-AR) / Nikki Haley (R-SC)

48. Donald Trump Jr. (R-FL) / Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) (2033-2037)
2032: def. Gavin Newsom (D-CA) / Gretchen Whitmer (D-MI)

49. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) / Brian Schatz (D-HI) (2037-2041)
2036: def. Donald Trump Jr. (R-FL) / Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA)

50. Laura Loomer (R-FL) / Ryan Fournier (R-NJ) (2041-present)
2040: def. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) / Brian Schatz (D-HI)
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2020, 10:40:12 PM »

Cllinton as FDR:
42. BillClinton/Tom Foley 1993-2001
42. Bill Clinton/Dan Glickman 2001-2005
42. Bill Clinton/Mel Carnahan 2005
43. Mel Carnahan/vacant 2005-2009
43. Mel Carnahan/Daniel Mongiardo 2009-2013
44. Wesley Clark/Carly Fiorina 2013-present



Can't wait for Fiorina 2029-2034 and Watergate 2.0
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2020, 07:17:04 PM »

Every post-WWII assassination attempt succeeds.

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
32. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democratic, New York) 1933–1945 †
33. Harry S. Truman (Democratic, Missouri) 1945–1947 ‡

34. George Catlett Marshall (Unaffiliated, Pennsylvania) 1947–1950 ‡
35. Alben William Barkley (Democratic, Kentucky) 1950–1953
36. Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican, Kansas) 1953–1961
37. John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democratic, Massachusetts) 1961–1963 ‡
38. Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democratic, Texas) 1963–1969

39. Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican, California) 1969–1972 ‡
40. Spiro Theodore Agnew (Republican, Maryland) 1972–1972 ‡

–. Carl Bert Albert (Democratic, Oklahoma) 1972–1973
41. Gerald Rudolph Ford (Republican, Michigan) 1973–1974 ‡
42. Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller (Republican, New York) 1974–1975 ‡
43. Donald Henry Rumsfeld (Republican, Illinois) 1975–1977 ‡
44. Robert Joseph Dole (Republican, Kansas) 1975–1977

45. James Earl Carter (Democratic, Georgia) 1977–1979 ‡
46. Walter Frederick Mondale (Democratic, Minnesota) 1979–1981

47. Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican, California) 1981–1981 ‡
48. George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican, Texas) 1981–1989
49. Robert Joseph Dole (Republican, Kansas) 1989–1993

50. William Jefferson Clinton (Democratic, Arkansas) 1993–1994 ‡
51. Albert Arnold Gore (Democratic, Tennessee) 1994–1994 ‡
–. Thomas Stephen Foley (Democratic, Washington) 1994–1994 ‡
–. Robert Carlyle Byrd (Democratic, West Virginia) 1994–1996 ‡
52. Daniel Robert Graham (Democratic, Florida) 1996–2001

53. George Walker Bush (Republican, Texas) 2001–2005 ‡
54. Richard Bruce Cheney (Republican, Wyoming) 2005–2009

55. Barack Hussein Obama (Democratic, Illinois) 2009–2009 ‡
56. Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr. (Democratic, Delaware) 2009–2011 ‡
57. Birch Evans Bayh III (Democratic, Indiana) 2011–2013 ‡
58. Hillary Dianne Rodham Clinton (Democratic, New York) 2013–2017

59. Donald John Trump (Republican, New York) 2017–2017 ‡
60. Michael Richard Pence (Republican, Indiana) 2017–2018 ‡
61. Nimrata Nikki Randhawa Haley (Republican, South Carolina) 2018–2020 ‡
62. Dean Arthur Heller (Republican, Nevada) 2020–2020 ‡

–. Nancy Patricia D'Alesandro Pelosi (Democratic, California) 2020–present

Is this a world where the Secret Service employs Storm Troopers?
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2021, 07:16:05 PM »

Inverse of 1968-1988

From 1968 to 2004, Democrats only won three elections to the Republican's seven.

What if that pattern reversed from 2008 to 2044?

2009-2017: Barack Obama (D-IL)/Joe Biden (D-DE)
2008: def. John McCain (R-AZ)/Sarah Palin (R-AK)
2012: def. Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Paul Ryan (R-WI)

2017-2021: Donald Trump (R-NY)/Mike Pence (R-IN)
2016: def. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Tim Kaine (D-VA)
2021-2029: Joe Biden (D-DE)/Kamala Harris (D-CA)
2020: def. Donald Trump (R-FL)/Mike Pence (R-IN)
2024: def. Donald Trump (R-NY)/Ron DeSantis (R-FL)


Biden's first term is fairly successful if underwhelming. Trump declared that he would seek the presidency once again, and pre-emptively announced Ron DeSantis as his running mate. Few other Republicans would dare enter the primary against him, and Trump was nominated with little opposition. However, Trump would go on to lose in the general election. Though Biden lost NE-02 to redistricting, he flipped North Carolina and won the popular vote by 5% for a 318-220 electoral victory.

2029-2033: Kamala Harris/Andy Beshear (D-KY)
2028: def. Kristi Noem (R-SC)/Dan Crenshaw (R-TX)

With Trump out of politics for good - having suffered a mental breakdown after losing to Biden twice in a row - the Republican field was completely open in 2028. Republican strategists desperately wanted to stop the bleeding in the suburbs, and believed that they could avoid accusations of sexism if they nominated a woman to run against Harris. Kristi Noem won the nomination by the skin of her teeth against Donald Trump Jr. She selected Dan Crenshaw as her running mate. Republicans were confident in Noem's chances, and were giddy at the prospect of stealing the milestone of first female president from the Democrats. However, despite record fundraising and a strong debate performance by Noem, the ticket of Kamala Harris/Andy Beshear won the 2028 presidential election - losing Wisconsin and Minnesota, but flipping Texas for a 338-200 electoral victory.

2033-2041: Josh Mandel (R-OH)/Lauren Boebert (R-CO)
2032: def. Kamala Harris/Andy Beshear (D-KY)
2036: def. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY)/Cori Bush (D-MO)


The Democrats' streak of presidential victories would come to an end in 2032. AOC made a bid for the presidency in 2028, but Harris won the nomination fairly easily. And after several Harris policies disappointed the left wing of the left wing of the Democrats, AOC announced her intent to primary Kamala Harris. AOC's gained more traction than she did in 2028, but she failed to win enough delegates and Harris was re-nominated. Republicans, however, were able to unite behind Ohio Senator Josh Mandel fairly easily. Though AOC declined to run as an independent, she also refused to endorse Harris for re-election. Josh Mandel selected Lauren Boebert as his running mate, and defeated the incumbent Harris with a razor thin 270-268 electoral college victory, despite losing the popular vote by almost 6%, having flipped Arizona and Texas.

Mandel proved to be a younger, slightly more competent version of Trump. The Democratic Party was fractured, unable to decide whether AOC's primary challenge and lack of endorsement caused progressives to stay home, or if Harris should have done more to reach out to their wing of the party. Things did not get better in 2036, when AOC ran for a third and final time. This time she managed to win the Democratic nomination against the moderate Krysten Sinema, but she proved to be too far-left for most of the country and lost in a landslide. Mandel was re-elected with 333 electoral votes to AOC's 205. Mandel flipped Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Georgia, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Maine at-large, and Nevada. Mandel even won the popular vote by 0.5%, the first Republican to do so snce George W. Bush in 2004.

2041-2049: Malcolm Kenyatta (D-PA)/Greg Casar (D-TX)
2040: def. Lauren Boebert (R-CO)/Mike Gallagher (R-WI)
2044: def. Candace Owens (R-CT)/Mark Johnson (R-MN)


Mandel's second term was a complete disaster. Having failed to prevent China's invasion of Taiwan, botching the social security crisis, and doing nothing to fight climate change, few Americans were eager to vote for whoever the Republican nominee would be. Democrats saw a competitive but civil primary between Pennsylvania Senator Malcolm Kenyatta and Texas Governor Greg Casar, but the two managed to unite the party. Kenyatta won the nomination, but extended an olive branch and offered Greg Casar the vice presidency, which he accepted. Republicans nominated Vice President Lauren Boebert. Kenyatta won in an a huge landslide, earning 392 electoral votes. He flipped back a number of states: Nevada, Arizona, Texas, Georgia, North Carolina, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Maine at-large, and even Florida, which had not gone to the Democrats since 2012. He won the popular vote by 6%.

Republicans were undergoing an identity crisis, and decided that they had to make an effort to appeal to minorities due to the shrinking non-college white population. They nominated Candace Owens, who had not held elected office but ran for Congress twice (in 2026 and 2030) and served as the RNC Finance Chair since 2039. Republicans assumed that having a woman of color at the top of the ticket would help their chances. Owens improved on their 2040 map, winning back North Carolina and Florida. However, Kenyatta flipped Alaska, giving it to the Democrats for the first time since 1964. Kenyatta won 350-188 and won the popular vote by 8%.
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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2021, 07:17:00 PM »
« Edited: December 03, 2021, 07:20:45 PM by Ferguson97 »

9/11/2000

1993-2001: Bill Clinton/Al Gore
2001-2005: Al Gore/Joe Lieberman
2005-2009: John McCain/Tom Ridge
2009-2013: Hillary Clinton/Evan Bayh
2013-2020: Newt Gingrich/Michelle Bachmann
2020: Michelle Bachmann/Vacant†
2020-2021: Michelle Bachmann/Thaddeus McCotter
2021-present: Hillary Clinton/Sherrod Brown

† President Newt Gingrich died on August 29, 2020 from H1N1-19 complications.
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2021, 05:37:01 PM »

Bush wins re-election in 1992

1989-1997: George H. W. Bush/Dan Quayle
1997-2005: Ann Richards/Bill Bradley
2005-2013: Fred Thompson/Connie Mack III
2013-2021: Robert Reich/Russ Feingold
2021: Steve King/Scott Walker†
2021: George W. Bush/Vacant
2021-present: George W. Bush/Allen West
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2022, 01:03:30 AM »

The same presidents as our timeline, but in a (plausible) alternative order

1969-1973: Ronald Reagan/Nelson Rockefeller
1973-1981: Jimmy Carter/Edmund Muskie
1981-1989: Richard Nixon/Donald Rumsfeld
1989-1993: Joe Biden/Pat Schroeder
1993-1997: Donald Trump/Paul Laxalt
1997-2005: George H. W. Bush/Paul Laxalt
2005-2013: Bill Clinton/Hillary Rodham
2013-2017: George W. Bush/Bobby Jindal
2017-2021: George W. Bush/Barack Obama
2021-present: Barack Obama/Chelsea Clinton

Election Matchups
1968: Governor Ronald Reagan vs. President Lyndon B. Johnson
- in this timeline, Reagan beats Nixon for the nomination and LBJ runs for another term. His unpopularity gives a win for the Gipper.
1972: President Ronald Reagan vs. Governor Jimmy Carter
- in this timeline, Carter wins the 1966 gubernatorial election, and then re-election in 1970
1976: Fmr. Vice President Nelson Rockefeller vs. President Jimmy Carter
1980: Fmr. Secretary of State Richard Nixon vs. Vice President Edmund Muskie
- in this timeline, Nixon is made Reagan's Secretary of State
1984: President Richard Nixon vs. Senator Gary Hart
1988: Vice President Donald Rumsfeld vs. Senator Joe Biden
1992: Mayor Donald Trump vs. President Joe Biden
- in this timeline, Trump makes a run for NYC Mayor, very narrowly defeating David Dinkins in 1989
1996: House Speaker George H. W. Bush vs. Former Vice President Pat Schroeder
- in this timeline, Trump is ultimately primaried by House Speaker George H. W. Bush, who never joined the Reagan or Nixon administrations, and worked his way up the leadership ladder.
2000: President George H. W. Bush vs. Senator Paul Wellstone
2004: Former President Donald Trump vs. Senator Bill Clinton
- in this timeline, Bill Clinton's 1974 congressional run is successful, and he goes on to run for Senate in 1996. Trump seeks a second, non-consecutive term after his image has somewhat rehabilitated over the past 12 years.
2008: Senator Barry Goldwater Jr. vs. President Bill Clinton
- in this timeline, Barry Goldwater Jr. beats McCain in the 1986 Senate primary
2012: House Speaker George W. Bush vs. Vice President Hillary Rodham
- in this timeline, Hillary and Bill go on a few dates in college, but there's no spark; however, they remain good friends and political allies. Rodham returns to Illinois and is elected Governor in 2002. Meanwhile George W. Bush won his 1978 congressional race, serving alongside his father for nearly 20 years. He was elected to his father's old position as Speaker after the 2010 midterms.
2016: President George W. Bush vs. Governor John Edwards
- John Edwards never cheats on his wife, and makes a bid for Governor in 2008. The election is extremely close, and a tied electoral college (Edwards wins the popular vote) sends the election to the House. The Republicans control a majority of House delegations and elect Bush to a second term; however, the Democrats control the Senate and choose Edwards' running mate, Rep. Barack Obama as Vice President, ousting Bobby Jindal.
2020: Former Vice President Bobby Jindal vs. Vice President Barack Obama
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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2022, 02:32:34 PM »

I don't think Georgia's governors were allowed to run for re-election in 1970.

Drat. Well, then he's "Former Governor Jimmy Carter" in 1970.
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2022, 01:26:56 AM »

Like Father, Like Son

1961-1969: Al Gore Sr./Adlai Stevenson II*
1969-1977: George W. Romney/George H. W. Bush
1977-1985: Birch Bayh/Mo Udall
1985-1993: Paul Laxalt/Thomas Kean Sr.
1993-2001: Al Gore Jr./Adlai Stevenson III
2001-2009: Mitt Romney/George W. Bush
2009-2017: Evan Bayh/Mark Udall
2017-2025: Adam Laxalt/Thomas Kean Jr.

* Stevenson died in 1965 after a heart attack in London. I'm assuming that likely being in the White House with access to the best medical care in the world could have saved his life.
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