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« on: February 26, 2018, 03:00:40 PM »

2019- a year of chaos

45: Businessman Donald J. Trump / Governor Michael Pence (2016- June 6, 2019)
*Trump is shot and killed during a rally, Pence is inaugurated*
46: VP Michael Pence / None (June 6, 2019-June 11, 2019)
*Pence is shot and killed on the capitol steps, presumably about to announce his VP pick to congress*
47: Senator and President Pro Tempore Patrick Leahy / Representative and House Speaker Tim Ryan (June 11, 2019-November 12, 2019)
*Leahy has a heart attack and is forced to resign*
48:VP Tim Ryan / ? (November 12, 2019 - 202?)
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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2018, 12:41:57 PM »

Because why not

45: Donald Trump / Mike Pence (2017-2021)
46: Kamala Harris / Sherrod Brown (2021-2029)
47: Tom Cotton / Nikki Haley (2029-2037)
48: (Senator) Leigh / (Governor) Emily Peebleton (2037-2041)
49: (Governor) Laura "Koopette" / (Governor) Joanna Campbell (2041-2049)
50: (Former VP) Emily Peebleton / (Senator) Weather Boy (2049- 2057)
51: (VP) Weather Boy / (Sec. of Transportation) Ninja (2057- ?)
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2019, 02:07:02 PM »

Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom

Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill: 26 Oct 1951-15 Mar 1954‡ (Conservative)

None: 15 May 1954-28 Mar 1954

Alan Mathison Turing: 28 Mar 1954-19 October 1965 (Homocratic)

Ian Murray McKellen:  19 October 1965-11 October 1974 (Homocratic)

Francis Alick Howard: 11 October 1974-9 June 1983 (Homocratic)

Freddie Mercury: 9 June 1983-10 Nov 1991^ (Homocratic)

Maureen Colquhoun: 10 Nov 1991-9 Apr 1992 (Homocratic)

Ian Murray McKellen: 9 Apr 1992-5 May 2005 (Homocratic)

John David Cairns: 5 May 2005-9 May 2011† (Homocratic)

Adam Price: 9 May 2011-7 May 2015 (Homocratic)

Elizabeth Jean Barker: 7 May 2015-Present (Homocratic)

‡ Assassinated during the Rainbow Revolution
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† Died
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2019, 02:36:37 PM »

1867: After the mess caused after Lincoln's assassination, Johnson's attempted subversion of both houses of congress, etc., an amendment is passed that designates the Vice President as a "caretaker" in the case of a President's death or resignation, and that a special election is held within 6 months of the death/resignation.

Sept. 19, 1881: President Garfield dies, several months after being shot. Chester A. Arthur becomes caretaker president.

Feb. 20, 1882: New York Governor Grover Cleveland beats Caretaker President Arthur, Governor St. John, and Fmr. Representative Butler.

1884: Cleveland is elected to a full term.

1884-1901 same as OTL

Sept. 14 1901: President McKinley is shot and killed. Vice President Roosevelt becomes caretaker.

Feb. 10, 1902: Roosevelt wins a full term, over Chief Judge of the NY Court of Appeals Parker, Anti-Roosevelt Republican Senator Hanna, Populist Democrat Representative Hearst, Socialist Union Leader Debs, and Preacher Swallow.

1902-1912: Same as OTL

1912: Roosevelt returns, but fails to win the Republican nomination. No one receives a majority in the electoral college, with Roosevelt, under his new Bull Moose Progressive Party, coming the closest, followed by Liberal Democrat Governor Woodrow Wilson (who walked out after Clark was nominated), Speaker Champ Clark, President Taft, and Debs, who narrowly carried Nevada.

Eventually, with protests gripping the nation and the government stagnant as one of its branches wasn't occupied, a re-run of the election was called, with the top 2, Roosevelt and Wilson, being the only names on the ballot. Roosevelt won handily, and was convinced to advocate for a new, parliamentary system of government. Although the idea was unpopular among the representatives and senators, it was an idea that became more and more popular with the people, who elected a majority progressive house in 1914. In 1915, the expansive amendment passed.

idk why I wrote this lol but maybe it could be expanded on
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2019, 01:50:36 PM »
« Edited: November 11, 2019, 02:04:12 PM by WB said Trans Rights »

Businessman Donald Trump/Governor Mike Pence (2017-2025)
2016: Def. Fmr. Sec. of State Hillary Clinton/Senator Tim Kaine 2020: Def. Senator Elizabeth Warren/Entrepreneur Andrew Yang and Fmr. Mayor Michael Bloomberg/Businessman Howard Schultz

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez/Senator Tammy Duckworth (2025-2029)
2024: Def. VP Mike Pence/Senator Lindsay Graham

Governor Ron Desantis/Senator Josh Hawley (2029-2033)
2028: Def. Pres. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez/VP Tammy Duckworth and Fmr. Governor Lincoln Chafee/Fmr. Rep. Thomas Massie

Senator John Fetterman/Governor Cyrus Habib (2033-2037)
2032: Def. Pres. Ron DeSantis/VP Josh Hawley

Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith*/Senator Jeff Duncan (2037-2039)
2036: Def. Pres. John Fetterman/VP Cyrus Habib

VP Jeff Duncan/Vacant (2039-2040) /Fmr. VP Josh Hawley (2040-2041)

Governor Dominique McLean/Fmr. Governor Beto O'Rourke (2041-???)
2040: Def. President Jeff Duncan/Fmr. VP Josh Hawley and Rep. Andrew Yang/Businessman Elon Musk [UBI Now] and Charlie Kirk/Dennis Prager [Anti-Furry Action]


*Resigned after suffering a stroke.

McLean makes history as the first nonbinary president, as well as the first gamer president and first furry president.
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2019, 12:37:56 PM »

36. John F. Kennedy (D-TX)*/Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) 1961-1963
37. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX)**/Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY) 1963-1966
38. Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY)*/Stephen Young (D-OH) 1966-1968
39. Stephen Young (D-OH)^/Hubert Humphery (D-MN) 1968-1969
40. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)**/John Anderson (R-IL) 1969-1975
41. John Anderson (R-IL)^/Charles Mathias (R-MD) 1975-1977
42. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)**/Ted Kennedy (D-MA) 1977-1978
43. Ted Kennedy (D-MA)*/Jerry Brown (D-CA) 1978-1982
44. Jerry Brown (D-CA)^/Walter Mondale (D-MN) 1982-1985
45. Richard Lugar (R-IN)**/John Anderson (R-IL) 1985-1992
46. John Anderson (R-IL)**/John McCain (R-AZ) 1992-1995
47. John McCain (R-AZ)*/Lamar Alexander (R-TN) 1995-2001
48. Lamar Alexander (R-TN)***/Olympia Snowe (R-ME) 2001
49. Olympia Snowe (R-ME)^/John Kasich (R-OH) 2001-2005
50. Bill Clinton (D-AR)*/Tom Harkin (D-IA)* 2005-2006
51. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)*/Hillary Clinton (D-NY) 2006-2007
52. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Evan Bayh (D-IN) 2007-2009
53. Al Gore (D-TN)/Evan Bayh (D-IN)* 2009-2011; Joe Biden (D-DE)* 2011-2015; Barack Obama (D-IL) 2015-2017- first two-term President since Eisenhower
54. Donald Trump (R-NY)**/Chris Christie (R-NJ) 2017-2018
55. Chris Christie (R-NJ)****/Charlie Baker (R-MA) 2018
56. Charlie Baker (R-MA)^^^/Larry Hogan (R-MD) 2018-2025
57. John Bel Edwards (D-LA)/Sherrod Brown (D-OH) 2025-present


^lost reelection
^^lost primary
^^^retired
*killed
**died
***resigned after President's and 8 members of Cabinet death in terroristic attack
****resigned after he killed President


Losing Tickets

1960: Richard Nixon/Henry Cabot Lodge
1964: Barry Goldwater/William Miller
1968: Stephen Young/Hubert Humphrey
1972: George McGovern/Terry Sanford
1976: John Anderson/Charles Mathias
1980: Ronald Reagan/George H.W. Bush
1984: Jerry Brown/Walter Mondale
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2020, 11:32:18 AM »

Welcome to the Republic of Britain

Prime Minister Tony Blair 2000-2004
Shadow Secretary of Defense Nicholas Soames 2004-2008
Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs David Milliband 2008-2012
Mayor Boris Johnson 2012-2016
UKIP Leader Nigel Farage 2016-2020
Leader of the Opposition Layla Moran 2020-2028
Mayor Sian Berry 2028-

I made this because I was bored.

shouldn't it be the BIP, not UKIP, if it's the Republic of Britain? Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2020, 10:41:40 PM »

Florida 2022 Election under Parrotguy's party system

2022 Florida Gubernatorial Election (First Round)
Gov. Ron DeSantis (Conservative Reform)- 24.4% ↑(+4.2) ✓ [Prev. Nominee: Rep. Ron DeSantis]
Author Carl Hiaasen (Green)- 17.8% ↑(+15.4) ✓ [Prev. Nominee: Mr. Michael E. Arth]
Fmr. Agriculture Comm. Adam Putnam (Liberal Reform)- 16.3% ↑ (+3.1) [Prev. Nominee: Ag. Comm. Adam Putnam]
Trump Chief Strategist Steve Bannon (National American Front)- 14.4% ↑ (+7.3) [Prev. Nominee: Trump Chief Strategist Steve Bannon]
Fmr. Mayor Andrew Gillum (Progressive Alternative)- 7.8% ↓ (-13.1) [Prev. Nominee: Mayor Andrew Gillum]
Businessman Jeff Greene (Liberal Democratic)- 7.1% ↓ (-12.3) [Prev. Nominee: Fmr. Rep. Gwen Graham]
Mayor Wayne Messam (Labor)- 5.3% ↓ (-7.3) [Prev. Nominee: Mayor Phillip Levine]
Representative Charlie Crist (Independent)- 4.8% ↑ (+4.8 )
Others- 2.1% ↓ (-2.1)

this election was quite odd, especially due to the fact that Putnam endorsed Hiaasen after the first round, as did every other candidate except Bannon (who endorsed DeSantis) and Greene (who refused to endorse). Gillum was originally a favorite to get the main left-wing spot, but after being found in a hotel room with a male escort, as well as methamphetamine, he dropped in most areas.

DeSantis attacked Hiaasen mainly on the criticism of Florida in his books, to which Hiaasen replied in the debate with "I love this state, but I hate what people like you are doing to it."

2022 Florida Gubernatorial Election (Second Round)
Author Carl Hiaasen (Green): 50.2% ✓
Governor Ron DeSantis (Conservative Reform): 49.8%
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2020, 08:56:31 PM »

SC Gubernatorial elections 2018 and 2022


2018 South Carolina Gubernatorial Election (First Round)

Gov. Nikki Haley (Reform)- 26.8% ↓ (-3.3) ✓ [Prev. Nominee: Gov. Nikki Haley]
State Rep. James Smith (Liberal Democratic)- 24.3% ↓ (-4.8 ) ✓ [Prev. Nominee: State Sen. Vince Shaheen]

Mayor Stephen Benjamin (Labor)- 18.1% ↑ (+5.3) [Prev. Nominee: Mayor Joseph Riley Jr.]
Fmr. Director of Dept. of Health and Env. Control Catherine Templeton (National Conservative)- 13.3% ↓ (-6.3) [Prev. Nominee: Fmr. Director of Dept. of Health and Env. Control Catherine Templeton]
Mr. Michael Chandler (National American Front)- 10.1% ↑ (+10.1) [New]
Mr. Arik Bjorn (Progressive Alternative)- 4.6% ↓ (-0.3) [Prev. Nominee: Fmr. NFL Player Morgan Bruce Reeves]
Others- 2.8% ↓ (-0.7)

2018 South Carolina Gubernatorial Election (Second Round)
Gov. Nikki Haley (Reform)- 54.2% ✓
State Rep. James Smith (Liberal Democratic)- 45.8%


2022 South Carolina Gubernatorial Election (First Round)
Rep. Joe Cunningham (Green)- 19.8% ↑ (+18.3)✓ [Prev. Nominee: Professor William Kreml]
Businessman Scott Goldsmith (National American Front)- 16.3% ↑ (+6.2) ✓
Dep. Gov. Henry McMaster (Conservative Reform/National Conservative)- 16.2% ↑ (+2.9)
Fmr. Gov. Mark Sanford (Liberal Reform)- 15.1% ↓ (-11.7)
State Rep. Mandy Powers Norell (Liberal Democratic)- 14.9% ↓ (-9.4)
SC Labor Party Chair Jaime Harrison (Labor)- 9.9% ↓ (-8.2)
Activist Kim Williams (Progressive Alternative)- 4.7% ↑ (+0.1)
Others: 3.1% ↑ (+0.3)

Goldsmith, being the owner of a Confederate themed store in the upstate, was extremely controversial, leading to no other candidate endorsing him. Cunningham, being reasonably moderate with a heavy environmental focus, won the downstate areas big.

2022 South Carolina Gubernatorial Election (Second Round)
Rep. Joe Cunningham (Green)- 60.1% ✓
Businessman Scott Goldsmith (National American Front)- 39.9%
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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2020, 03:44:07 PM »
« Edited: May 19, 2020, 04:06:55 PM by stand on the shoulders of proud Newfoundlanders »

It Happened Here (From HOI4 game)

PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES
32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic) 1933-1937

1936 Election:


Gov. Alfred M. Landon/Vice Pres. John N. Garner: 266 EV
Pres. Franklin D. Roosevelt/Sec. Henry A. Wallace: 265 EV

Roosevelt's seemingly insane decision to oust Garner led to a massive split for the Democrats, and his replacement exacerbated the issue. Garner approached Landon, offering to help swing the "solid south" away from "That crazy communist". Landon, though extremely hesitant to the idea, accepted. (this is the only way I can even think of FDR coming close to losing and it's unrealistic, obviously)

Despite a 5-point win in the PV nationally, FDR's betrayal of the south was his downfall.

33. Alfred M. Landon (Republican) 1937-1939*
34. Douglas MacArthur (Military Junta) 1939-1940


Loyalists
Constitutionalists


PRESIDENTS OF THE CONSTITUTIONALIST "BOSTON GOVERNMENT"

1. Franklin D. Roosevelt (United Democratic) 1939-1940^
2. Frank F. Merriam (United Democratic) 1940**

PRESIDENTS OF THE CONFEDERATED STATES OF AMERICA

1. Douglas MacArthur (Christian) 1940-

*Resigned after the breakout of the Second American Civil War to allow MacArthur to temporarily take over
^Disappeared after the capture of Boston by Loyalist forces
**Fled America 2 days before capture of Seattle by Loyalist forces, ending the Civil War
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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2020, 08:19:41 PM »


Presidents of the (Western) Enclave  (HOI4 Old World Blues mod, Enclave Reborn submod) [True Reformer Path]

Enclave

?. *First Name Unknown* Richardson (Party Unknown, Likely Independent) [Before 2220]
?. Richard Richardson {IDK if I can say his nickname here} (Party Unknown, Likely Independent) [2220-2242]
None (Disorganized Leadership) [2242-22??]
?. Arch Dornan (Independent) [22??-2275]*
?. Douglas Granite (Reformer Faction, then Reconstruction Party, then New World Party) [2275-]**

*De Facto leader of the largest group of Enclave Remnants before the 2275 Presidential Election, where he supported underdog Granite, singlehandedly winning him the election. 
**1st President of the Reunited States

VICE PRESIDENTS of the REUNITED STATES
1. Grant C. Hayes (New World Party) [2282-]
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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2020, 04:00:50 PM »

Humans Are No Longer the Kings of This World

Mr. Donald Trump/Gov. Mike Pence: 2017-2025
Mayor Andrew Yang/Gov. John Fetterman: 2025-2033
Mr. Tucker Carlson/Rep. Marjorie Greene: 2033-2037
Fmr. Sec. of HHS Samuel Conway/Sen. Dominique McLean: 2037-2041
Pres. Samuel Conway/Vice Pres. Dominique McLean: 2041-2045
Vice Pres. Dominique McLean/Gov. Beto O'Rourke: 2045-2048*
Fmr. Sec. of Cultural Affairs Ren "Jackal" Queenston/vacant: 2048-????

Republican
Democratic
New Humanity
Superior Species Front

*Overthrown

I don't know why i made this why why why
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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2020, 03:41:02 PM »

the following contains spoilers for the Red World mod for HOI IV. Timing might be wrong but still in the correct chronological order

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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2020, 10:32:11 PM »

GLENN!

Herbert Hoover: 1929-1937 (Republican)
Joseph P. Kennedy Sr.: 1937-1945 (Democrat)
Harry S. Truman: 1945-1949 (Democrat)
Thomas Dewey: 1949-1953 (Republican)
Dwight D. Eisenhower: 1953-1961 (Democratic-Republican)
Richard Nixon: 1961-1963* (Democratic-Republican)
John F. Kennedy: 1963-1963** (Democratic-Republican)
John McCormack: 1963-1965 (Democratic-Republican)
George Wallace: 1965-1967*** (New Progressive)
Curtis LeMay: 1967-1969 (New Progressive)
John Glenn: 1969- (Democratic-Republican)

*Resigned due to scandal involving wiretapping the NPP
**Assassinated by Guyanese Nationalist
***Impeached by newly-elected R-D controlled Congress after forcing segregation nationwide
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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2021, 11:32:17 AM »
« Edited: August 22, 2021, 12:02:09 PM by Senator and Chair WB »

Presidents of the USA:

Bill Clinton (DEM-Arkansas): 1989-1997
Ross Perot (REF-Texas): 1997-1999

Prime Ministers of the USA:

Ross Perot (REF-Texarkana, TX): 1999-2001
George Bush (CON-Houston North): 2001-2008
Vacant: 2008 [2nd Bush Ministry lost confidence after the 2008 financial crash]
Hillary Clinton (LIB-North Westchester and West Point): 2008-2016 [2011 election was called by PM Clinton]
Donald Trump (TRUMP-National List): 2016-20XX [Incumbent]
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2021, 10:38:32 PM »

Presidents of the USA:

Bill Clinton (DEM-Arkansas): 1989-1997
Ross Perot (REF-Texas): 1997-1999

Prime Ministers of the USA:

Ross Perot (REF-Texarkana, TX): 1999-2001
George Bush (CON-Houston North): 2001-2008
Vacant: 2008 [2nd Bush Ministry lost confidence after the 2008 financial crash]
Hillary Clinton (LIB-North Westchester and West Point): 2008-2016 [2011 election was called by PM Clinton]
Donald Trump (TRUMP-National List): 2016-2021
Bernie Sanders (SDLP-Vermont): 2021-
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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2021, 06:10:16 AM »
« Edited: October 19, 2021, 08:20:58 AM by Senator and Chair WB »

Richard Nixon (R-D Conservative)/John F. Kennedy (R-D Liberal): 1961-1963*
John F. Kennedy/John McCormack (R-D Liberal)#: 1963†
John McCormack#/Carl Hayden# (R-D Liberal): 1963-1965
Robert F. Kennedy/Hubert Humphrey (NPP-Center): 1965-1967*
'64 defeated Wallace Bennett/Gerald Ford (R-D Conservative)
Hubert H. Humphrey/Henry M. Jackson (NPP-Center): 1967-1977
'68 defeated Barry Goldwater/Spiro Agnew (R-D Conservative), '72 defeated Spiro Agnew/John Ashbrook (R-D Conservative)
Edmund Muskie (R-D Liberal)/Jimmy Carter (R-D Conservative): 1977-1979
'76 defeated Frank Church/Pete McCloskey (NPP) and Jeane Kirkpatrick/Sam Yorty (Patriot's Party)
Edmund Muskie /Jimmy Carter (R-D Liberal): 1979-1981**
Henry M. Jackson/Shirley Chisholm (NPP): 1981-1983††
'80 defeated John Ashbrook/Ronald Reagan (R-D Conservative)
Shirley Chisholm/Walter Mondale (NPP): 1983-

*Resigned under threat of impeachment
**Lost renomination
†Assassinated
††Died in office
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« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2022, 12:36:53 AM »
« Edited: April 03, 2022, 02:32:18 AM by Sen. WB #NoToJo »

Massachusetts Miracle to American Miracle

41. Gov. Michael Dukakis (D-MA) / Sen. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) [1989-1997]
1988 Def. Vice Pres. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) / Sen. Dan Quayle (R-IN)
1992 Def. Fmr. Comm. Drctr. Pat Buchanan (R-VA) / Sen. Trent Lott (R-MS)

42. Sen. Al Gore Jr. (D-TN) / Gov. Bob Graham (D-FL) [1997-2001]
1996 Def. Sen. Bob Dole (R-KS) / Rep. Jack Kemp (R-NY) and Mr. Ross Perot (Ref-TX) / Mr. Pat Choate (Ref-DC)
43. Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) / Fmr. Gov. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) [2001-2009]
2000 Def. Pres. Al Gore Jr. (D-TN) / Vice Pres. Bob Graham (D-FL) and Mr. Ralph Nader (G-CT) and Ms. Winona LaDuke (G-MN)
2004 Def. Fmr. Vice Pres. Bob Graham (D-FL) / Rep. Colin Peterson (D-MN) and Fmr. Comm. Drctr. Pat Buchanan (C-VA) / Fmr. Rep. Ed Bryant (C-TN) and Mr. Ralph Nader (G-CT) / Mayor Matt Gonzalez (G-CA)

--2008 Presidential Crisis--

Gov. Charlie Crist (R-FL) / Sec. Christine Todd Whitman (R-NJ): 26.51%, 163 EV
Sen. Ed Case (D-HI) / Mayor John Hickenlooper (D-CO): 25.47%, 139 EV
Fmr. Spkr. Newt Gingrich (C-GA) / Gov. Sarah Palin (C-AK): 23.43%, 118 EV
Mayor Matt Gonzalez (P-CA) / Sen. Bernie Sanders (P-VT): 22.39%, 118 EV

Numerous recounts occurred but all verified the result, including Crist's narrow 113 vote margin over Gingrich in Virginia. With a mess in the presidential ballot thanks to confusion over who exactly would be the 3rd on the ballot, it went to the Senate to choose the VP.

Acting: Mayor John Hickenlooper (D-CO) [2009-2010]

Eventually, a compromise was reached where Crist would become President, and the 28th Amendment was passed, changing the Presidential election to a 2-round system.

44. Gov. Charlie Crist (R-FL) / Acting Pres. John Hickenlooper (D-CO) [2010-2013]
45. Sen. Bernie Sanders (P-VT) / Sen. Jeff Merkley (P-OR) [2013-2021]
2012 Def. Pres. Charlie Crist (R-FL) / Rep. Barbara Comstock (R-VA) and Vice Pres. John Hickenlooper (D-CO) / Rep. Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ) [1st Round]
Fmr. Gov. Sarah Palin (C-AK) / Fmr. Gov. Mike Huckabee [2nd Round]
2016 Def. Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE) / Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) and Gov. John Kasich (R-OH) / Rep. Barbara Comstock (R-VA) and Fmr. Rep. Ron Paul (L-TX) / Dr. Mary Ruwart (L-TX) [1st Round]
Mr. Donald Trump (C-NY) / Rep. Ron DeSantis (C-FL) [2nd Round]

46. Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D-NY) / Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) [2021-2021]*
2020 Def. Vice Pres. Jeff Merkley (P-OR) / Rep. Keith Ellison (P-MN) and Fmr. Rep. Barbara Comstock (R-VA) / Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-NY) [1st Round]
Mr. Donald Trump (C-NY) / Rep. Mark Meadows (C-NC) [2nd Round]

47. Vice Pres. Barack Obama (D-IL) / Gov. J.B. Pritzker (D-IL) [2021-]

*Resigned after being impeached by the House of Representatives, and likely to be convicted by the Senate, over purported sexual assault.
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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2022, 01:33:20 AM »

From a series of President Elect '88 games

1963-69: Lyndon Johnson / Hubert Humphrey
'64 defeats Nelson Rockefeller/Gerald Ford and George Wallace / Lestor Maddox

1969-77: Ronald Reagan / Howard Baker
'68 defeats Hubert Humphrey/Ed Muskie, '72 defeats McGovern/Eagleton

77-85: Ed Muskie / John Glenn
'76 defeats Howard Baker/George H.W. Bush, '80 defeats Jack Kemp/Bob Dole

85-93: John Glenn / Joe Biden
'84 defeats Pat Robertson/Newt Gingrich and John Anderson/Patrick Lucey, '84 defeats Bob Dole/Dan Quayle
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« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2022, 03:02:58 AM »
« Edited: December 06, 2022, 12:14:06 PM by GM Team Member WB #NoToJo »

Humans Are No Longer the Kings of This World

Mr. Donald Trump/Gov. Mike Pence: 2017-2025
Mayor Andrew Yang/Gov. John Fetterman: 2025-2033
Mr. Tucker Carlson/Rep. Marjorie Greene: 2033-2037
Fmr. Sec. of HHS Samuel Conway/Sen. Dominique McLean: 2037-2041
Pres. Samuel Conway/Vice Pres. Dominique McLean: 2041-2045
Vice Pres. Dominique McLean/Gov. Beto O'Rourke: 2045-2048*
Fmr. Sec. of Cultural Affairs Ren "Jackal" Queenston/vacant: 2048-????

Republican
Democratic
New Humanity
Superior Species Front

*Overthrown

I don't know why i made this why why why


Alternate good timeline:

Mr. Donald Trump/Gov. Mike Pence: 2017-2025
Sen. John Fetterman/Gov. Stacy Abrams: 2025-2033
Mr. Tucker Carlson/Rep. Marjorie T. Greene: 2033-2037
Fmr. Sec. of HHS Samuel "Uncle Kage" Conway/Sen. Beto O'Rourke: 2037-2041
Pres. Samuel "Uncle Kage" Conway/Vice Pres. Beto O'Rourke: 2041-2045
Sen. Foster "Adler" Eber/Dr. Michael "Zennith" Norsworthy: 2045-2053
Gov. "RJ" Kennedy/Rep. J "WB" Smith: 2053-??


Republican
Democratic
New Humanity
Liberty
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« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2022, 04:47:02 AM »

Alternate good timeline:

Mr. Donald Trump/Gov. Mike Pence: 2017-2025
Sen. John Fetterman/Gov. Stacy Abrams: 2025-2033
Mr. Tucker Carlson/Rep. Marjorie T. Greene: 2033-2037
Fmr. Sec. of HHS Samuel Conway/Sen. Beto O'Rourke: 2037-2041
Pres. Samuel Conway/Vice Pres. Beto O'Rourke: 2041-2045
Sen. Foster "Adler" Eber/Dr. Michael "Zennith" Norsworthy: 2045-2053
Gov. Jack "RJ" Kennedy/Rep. J "WB" Smith: 2053-??


Republican
Democratic
New Humanity
Liberty

Humans Are No Longer the Kings of This World

Mr. Donald Trump/Gov. Mike Pence: 2017-2025
Mayor Andrew Yang/Gov. John Fetterman: 2025-2033
Mr. Tucker Carlson/Rep. Marjorie Greene: 2033-2037
Fmr. Sec. of HHS Samuel Conway/Sen. Dominique McLean: 2037-2041
Pres. Samuel Conway/Vice Pres. Dominique McLean: 2041-2045
Vice Pres. Dominique McLean/Gov. Beto O'Rourke: 2045-2048*
Fmr. Sec. of Cultural Affairs Ren "Jackal" Queenston/vacant: 2048-?Huh

Republican
Democratic
New Humanity
Superior Species Front

*Overthrown

I don't know why i made this why why why


Alternate good timeline:

Mr. Donald Trump/Gov. Mike Pence: 2017-2025
Sen. John Fetterman/Gov. Stacy Abrams: 2025-2033
Mr. Tucker Carlson/Rep. Marjorie T. Greene: 2033-2037
Fmr. Sec. of HHS Samuel Conway/Sen. Beto O'Rourke: 2037-2041
Pres. Samuel Conway/Vice Pres. Beto O'Rourke: 2041-2045
Sen. Foster "Adler" Eber/Dr. Michael "Zennith" Norsworthy: 2045-2053
Gov. Jack "RJ" Kennedy/Rep. J "WB" Smith: 2053-??


Republican
Democratic
New Humanity
Liberty

As someone who created his account on this site in part because I saw the original timeline while lurking... 𝘽 𝘼 𝙎 𝙀 𝘿

But anyways, here's a completely unrelated list:

Time To Buy And Time To Lose

POD: John Wilkes Booth is turned down for a play he really wanted in late 1863, and decides to assassinate Lincoln seventeen months early. Also, a more successful Reconstruction leads to Black voters in Southern states not being widely disenfranchised, leading to the GOP doing better in the South.

Vice Pres. Hannibal Hamlin (R-ME) / VACANT[1] - 1863 – 1865
Pres. Hannibal Hamlin (R-ME) / Sen. Alexander Ramsey (R-MN) - 1865 – 1869
Fmr. Sen. James A. McDougall (D-CA) / Gov. Oden Bowie (D-MD) - 1869 – 1873
Pres. James A. McDougall (D-CA) / VACANT[2] - 1873 – 1874
Sen. Matthew H. Carpenter (R-WI) / VACANT[3] - 1874 – 1877
Gov. Benjamin F. Conley (R-GA) / Sen. William Windom (R-MN) - 1877 – 1881
Gen. George Stoneman (D-CA) / Fmr. Rep Abram Hewitt (D-NY) - 1881 – 1889
Vice Pres. Abram Hewitt (D-NY) / Sen. Daniel W. Voorhees (D-IN) - 1889 – 1893
Gov. Lafayette Gregg (R-AR) / Sen. Roderick R. Butler (R-TN) - 1893 – 1901
Gov. Charles A. Culberson (D-TX) / Fmr. Rep. John E. Osborne (D-WY) - 1901 – 1909
Sen. Albert J. Hopkins (R-IL) / Sen. Harry A. Richardson (R-DE) - 1909 – 1917
Mr. John J. Astor IV (D-NY) / Gov. Samuel M. Ralston (D-IN) - 1917 – 1921
Fmr. Vice Pres. Harry A. Richardson (R-DE) / Sen. Hiram Johnson (R-CA) - 1921 – 19??

[1] Vice President Hamlin ascended to the presidency following the assassination of President Lincoln.
[2] Vice President Bowie resigned from office due to the House beginning an impeachment trial against him for the 'high crime or misdemeanor' of being a former slaveholder and therefore unfit for office in postbellum America.
[3] President McDougall, a noted alcoholic, resigned from office to prevent being impeached and removed after it became known that, in a drunken stupor, he ordered the assault of the 1872 Republican nominee. Due to the lack of a Vice President, Senate President Pro Tempore Carpenter ascended to the presidency. Carpenter was not renominated in 1876.


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« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2023, 03:04:05 AM »

1969-1973: Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew (R)*
1968 def. Hubert Humphrey/Edmund Muskie(D) and George Wallace/Curtis LeMay (AIP) 301(43.4%)-191(42.7%)-46(13.5%)
1972 def. John Connally/Farris Bryant(D) and Gus Hall/Tom Hayden (CPUSA) 414(50.9%)-121(43.4%)-3(5.1%)**


1973-1974: Richard Nixon/Gerald Ford (R)***

1974-1977: Gerald Ford/Nelson Rockefeller (R)

1977-1981: Gerald Ford/Bob Dole (R)
1976 def. George McGovern/Fred Harris (D) 279(50.2%)-259 (49.0%)

1981-1985: Tom Hayden/Gary Hart (D)
1980 def. Bob Dole/John Connally (R) and John Anderson/Patrick Lucey (Ind) 309(50.1%)-229(42.2%)-0(7.1%)

1985-1989: Jesse Helms/Pat Buchanan (R)
1984 def. Tom Hayden/Gary Hart (D) and John Anderson/Fritz Hollings (Moderate) 287(44.3%)-250(46.8%)-1 (8.9%)****

1989-1993: Tom Hayden/Ron Dellums (D)
1988 def. Jesse Helms/Pat Buchanan (R) and Fritz Hollings/Ed Zschau (M) 319 (49.9%)-219 (42.9%)-0 (7.2%)

1993-97: Bob Dole/Jack Kemp (R)*****
1992 def. Gary Hart/John Lewis (D) and Pat Buchanan/Trent Lott (Patriots)  278 (42.2%) - 235 (43.4%) - 25 (14.0%)

1996 election:



*Agnew resigned due to a bribery scandal
**DC was won by Connally (though Hall shockingly finished in 2nd with over 25% of the vote) but its electors defected to Hall.
***Nixon resigned due to the CREEP Kidnapping scandal, and was not pardoned.
****A Helms elector from Illinois defected to Anderson.
*****Lost renomination by a wide margin. Endorsed Darden.
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« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2023, 04:46:16 PM »

1969-1973: Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew (R)*
1968 def. Hubert Humphrey/Edmund Muskie(D) and George Wallace/Curtis LeMay (AIP) 301(43.4%)-191(42.7%)-46(13.5%)
1972 def. John Connally/Farris Bryant(D) and Gus Hall/Tom Hayden (CPUSA) 414(50.9%)-121(43.4%)-3(5.1%)**


1973-1974: Richard Nixon/Gerald Ford (R)***

1974-1977: Gerald Ford/Nelson Rockefeller (R)

1977-1981: Gerald Ford/Bob Dole (R)
1976 def. George McGovern/Fred Harris (D) 279(50.2%)-259 (49.0%)

1981-1985: Tom Hayden/Gary Hart (D)
1980 def. Bob Dole/John Connally (R) and John Anderson/Patrick Lucey (Ind) 309(50.1%)-229(42.2%)-0(7.1%)

1985-1989: Jesse Helms/Pat Buchanan (R)
1984 def. Tom Hayden/Gary Hart (D) and John Anderson/Fritz Hollings (Moderate) 287(44.3%)-250(46.8%)-1 (8.9%)****

1989-1993: Tom Hayden/Ron Dellums (D)
1988 def. Jesse Helms/Pat Buchanan (R) and Fritz Hollings/Ed Zschau (M) 319 (49.9%)-219 (42.9%)-0 (7.2%)

1993-97: Bob Dole/Jack Kemp (R)*****
1992 def. Gary Hart/John Lewis (D) and Pat Buchanan/Trent Lott (Patriots)  278 (42.2%) - 235 (43.4%) - 25 (14.0%)

1996 election:



*Agnew resigned due to a bribery scandal
**DC was won by Connally (though Hall shockingly finished in 2nd with over 25% of the vote) but its electors defected to Hall.
***Nixon resigned due to the CREEP Kidnapping scandal, and was not pardoned.
****A Helms elector from Illinois defected to Anderson.
*****Lost renomination by a wide margin. Endorsed Darden.

Sane continuation:

1997-1999: George Darden (M)/Bernie Sanders (D)
1999-2001: George Darden (M)/Bernie Sanders (Progressive)

As part of the agreement between Moderates and Democrats, the "Reform" amendments were added to the Constitution:
28th amendment to the United States Constitution: Eliminates the electoral college and instead creates a 2-round presidential election system with runoffs to be held 1 month after the general.
29th amendment to the United States Constitution: Creates a mixed-member proportional system for the House.
30th amendment to the United States Constitution: Gives every state 3 senators instead of 2, meaning all states have a senate election every 2 years.


2001-2005: George Darden/Jesse Ventura (M)
2000 def. David Duke/Cliven Bundy (America First) and Bernie Sanders/Dennis Kucinich (P) and George Bush/Dick Cheney (Conservative) John McCain/Joe Lieberman (New Millenium) and Angela Davis/Denise Edwards (CPUSA) 22.1%-19.8%-19.7%-18.9%-10.0%-5.1%-4.4%(Others)
2nd Round:  63.4%-36.6%


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« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2023, 03:32:04 AM »

Presidents of the USA:

Harry Daugherty (Republican): 1929-1934†
Andrew Mellon (Republican): 1934-1937
Howard Scott (Technocrat): 1937-1942

Chief Administrators of the United Technates of North America:

Howard Scott (Mainliners) [Engineer]: 1942-1957
M. King Hubbert (Mainliners) [Geologist]: 1957-1981
Thomas J. Watson Jr. (Electronic-Focus Faction) [Electronics Manufacturing Director]: 1981-1988*
Colin Powell (Military-Focus Faction) [General]: 1988-2004*
Bill Gates (Electronic-Focus Faction) [Electronics Manufacturing Director]: 2004-2013
Mark Zuckerberg (Hardliners) [Media Magnate]: 2013-2017
Anthony Fauci (Mainliners) [Immunologist]: 2017-2020†
Lawrence Tabak (Mainliners) [Biomedical Scientist]: 2020-2022*
Elon Musk (Hardliners) [Director of Space Exploration and Colonization]: 2022-2038†
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (Reformers) [Microbiologist]: 2038-2041†
[REDACTED] (Reformers) [Meteorologist]: 2041-2044**


† Assassinated
*Removed by a leadership challenge within the Council of Technates
**Position abolished, replaced by President of the Scientific Federation of North America.
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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2023, 11:37:05 PM »

Headcanon of a recent game of Red World for HOI4 I played (with a self insert because *of course* Tongue  NOTE this is a work of fiction and alternate history that obviously does not fully reflect the views of those involved in it, nor my own, especially regarding the fates of those involved)

Presidents of the American People's Commonwealth:

Noam Chomsky (IWW): 1988-2011*
Bernie Sanders (Socialist): 2011-2012

Supreme Leaders of the Greater American Union:
Bernie Sanders (Socialist-Loyalists): 2012-2017†**
Jeff Mackler (Socialist-Loyalists): 2017-2020†***
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (Socialist-Moderates): 2020-2022****
Richard Ojeda (Socialist-Loyalists/Militarist): 2022-2029†*****
None (Power struggle and Pseudo-civil war): 2029-2030******
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (Socialist-Moderates): 2030-2033

Prime Ministers of the American Union:
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (Democratic Socialist Freedom | Majority Government): 2033-2037
?? (American Future - Democratic Socialist Freedom | Coalition Government): 2037-???


*Unseated in special presidential election in the Central Committee.
**Died of heart attack
***Assassinated by Mexican Nationalists during a speech
****Deposed by militarists and Sanders loyalists/hardliners after her attempts to dismantle the cult of personality and other anti-totalitarian, pro-demilitarization measures
*****Died in the COVID-29 pandemic
******Although no true civil war occurred, the power struggle is sometimes called as such due to political assassinations, violence, etc being used to tip scales one way or another. Eventually the leader of the Loyalists/Hardliners, Cenk Uygur, was killed in a plane crash after being "mistakenly" diverted into the eyewall of a hurricane rather than around it, during a flight from Mexico City to Philadelphia.

The meteorologist responsible for this was not known until after AOC's reforms finally went into effect, at which point he revealed himself publicly at an event held by AOC. He formed the American Future Party and went on to expose many of the atrocities done under the Sanders regime, including proof that the May Day attacks and the assassination of Bill Gates were done under Sanders' orders. This gave him and his fledgling party major recognition which translated into a victory in the 2037 Parliamentary Elections.
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