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« Reply #1100 on: May 05, 2021, 02:16:26 PM »
« edited: May 05, 2021, 04:04:29 PM by bagelman »

45. Donald Trump (R-New York) (2017-2020)
46. Mike Pence (R-Indiana) (2020-2021)
47. Joe Biden (D-Delaware) (2021-2025)
48. Elsa Morriston (R-Pennsylvania) (2025-2029)
49. Rodrigue Jimenez (D-Arizona) (2029-2037)
50. Edgar Chavez (D-Texas) (2037-2041)
51. Joshua Palomino (R-New York) (2041-2049)
52. Kimberly Jackson (R-Connecticut) (2049-

Elections

2016: yep
2020: Biden flipped Texas in addition to stronger than OTL wins in Georgia and Arizona, but Trump managed to flip Maine statewide while holding Florida and North Carolina - the latter clearly having more in common with the former than GA or VA.
2024: VP Harris (D-California) loses 9 Biden states to Morriston. Minnesota is among the 3 she loses in the upper midwest, as the whole region enters a period of Republican dominance that began in Ohio and Iowa. The most surprising is probably Rhode Island. The popular vote is rather unclear but irrelevant.
2028: Narrow electoral college victory for Jimenez, through flipping only western 3 states, one being mighty Texas. Last election with the electoral college.
2032: This one is fairly boring, with former VP Kevin Cramer from North Dakota as the losing Republican. While "Jim" as he is nicknamed expands his margins in most of the country, Vermont and Hawaii both have high third party votes are are clearly less with him than other states. Vermont is beginning to resemble neighboring New Hampshire and upstate New York, while a major issue in Hawaii is government sponsored desalination plants.
2036: The losing Republican candidate is actually from Hawaii and wins the state, along with Vermont. Democrats still have their hold over metropolitan America.
2040: This decade is all about the rebirth of Northeastern Republicans. Palomino is the first Republican to win New York since Reagan's 1984 landslide.
2044: Democrats manage to make some inroads in the Great Plains of America, nominating a woman from Kansas in their loss against President Palomino who flips New Jersey.
2048: Northeastern Republicans maintain their hold on power. The nation continues to shift away from the old order of urban Democrats and a rural GOP.
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« Reply #1101 on: May 08, 2021, 10:11:17 PM »

Semi-Realistic Good Timelime:
Bill Clinton (VP Al Gore) (D-AR) 1993-2001
Al Gore (VP Joe Lieberman) [D-TN] 2001-2005
John McCain (VP Joe Lieberman) [R-AZ] 2005-2013
Barack Obama (VP Joe Biden) [D-IL] 2013-2021




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« Reply #1102 on: May 22, 2021, 01:31:08 PM »

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« Reply #1103 on: May 22, 2021, 02:16:50 PM »

43. Colin Powell: 2001-- 2009
44. John Danforth: 2009 -- 2013
45. Hillary Clinton: 2013 -- 2021
46. Jon Huntsman: 2021 -- Present
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« Reply #1104 on: May 22, 2021, 02:55:50 PM »
« Edited: May 22, 2021, 04:42:13 PM by dw93 »

12-16 years is the norm:

34. Dwight Eisenhower / Richard Nixon (Republican): 1953-1961
35. Richard Nixon / Henry Cabot Lodge (Republican): 1961-1969

36. Hubert Humphrey / Terry Sanford (Democratic): 1969-1977
37. Terry Sanford / Frank Church (Democratic): 1977-1981

38. Howard Baker / Donald Rumsfeld (Republican): 1981-1989
39. Donald Rumsfeld / Paul Laxalt (Republican): 1989-1993

40. Paul Tsongas / Al Gore (Democratic): 1993-1996*
41. Al Gore / Vacant (Democratic): 1996

41. Al Gore / Bill Bradley (Democratic): 1996-2005
42. Bill Bradley / Dick Gephardt (Democratic): 2005-2009

43. John McCain / Mitt Romney (Republican): 2009-2015**
44. Mitt Romney / Vacant (Republican): 2015

44. Mitt Romney / John Thune (Republican): 2015-2025
45. Sherrod Brown / Kamala Harris (Democratic): 2025-2033
46. Kamala Harris / Jon Ossoff (Democratic): 2033-Incumbent


*=President Tsongas Died of Cancer in February of 1996.
**= President McCain resigned in April of 2015 after a diagnosis of Brain cancer a month earlier. McCain would pass away a year later.
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« Reply #1105 on: May 23, 2021, 02:31:43 PM »

46: Joe Biden / Kamala Harris 2021-2025
47: Kamala Harris / Martin Heinrich 2025 - 2033
48: Spencer Cox / Marco Rubio 2033-2041
49: Conor Lamb / Jon Ossoff 2041-2049
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« Reply #1106 on: May 25, 2021, 10:37:02 AM »
« Edited: May 25, 2021, 12:07:24 PM by LabourJersey »

Revisiting my old idea where part of the Compromise of 1877 is enacting a 16th amendment that limits all future Presidents to one 6-year term.


19. Rutherford B. Hayes (R-OH) Mar. 4 1877- Mar. 4 1881
20. James G. Blaine (R-ME) Mar. 4 1881- Jul. 31 1882*
21. James A. Garfield (R-OH) Jul. 31 1882- Mar. 4 1887
22. Benjamin Harrison (R-IN) Mar. 4 1887- Mar. 4 1893
23. Grover Cleveland (D-NY) Mar. 4 1893- Mar. 4 1899
23. William B. Allison (R-IA) Mar. 4 1899- Mar. 4 1905
24. Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY) Mar. 4 1905- Mar. 4 1911
25. William R. Hearst (D-NY) Mar. 4 1911- Apr. 2 1916*
26. Thomas F. Marshall (D-IN) Apr. 2 1916- Mar. 4 1917
27. Charles E. Hughes (R-NY) Mar. 4 1917- Mar. 4 1923
28. Herbert C. Hoover (R-CA) Mar. 4 1923- Mar. 4 1929
29. Walter Edge (R-NJ) Mar. 4 1929- Mar. 4 1935
30. Huey P. Long (D-LA) Mar. 4 1935-Aug. 29 1935*
31. Burton K. Wheeler (D-MT) Aug. 29 1935-Mar. 4 1941
32. Theodore Roosevelt Jr. (R-NY) Mar. 4 1941-Jan. 19 1944**
33. Alf Landon (R-KS) Jan. 19 1944- Mar. 4 1947
34. Earl Warren (D-CA) Mar. 4 1947- Jan. 10 1953***
35. Thomas A. Dewey (R-NY) Jan. 10 1953- Jan. 10 1959
36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) Jan. 10 1959- Jan. 10 1965

*Assasinated
**Died in Office
***Changed Inauguration Day to January 10th
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« Reply #1107 on: May 26, 2021, 11:17:41 PM »

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
43. George Walker Bush (Republican, Texas) 2001–2005
44. John Forbes Kerry (Democratic, Massachusetts) 2005–2009
45. Willard Mitt Romney (Republican, Massachusetts) 2009–2013
46. Hillary Rodham Clinton (Democratic, New York) 2013–2017
47. Donald John Trump (Republican, New York) 2017–2021
48. Sherrod Campbell Brown (Democratic, Ohio) 2021–present

VICE PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
46. Richard Bruce Cheney (Republican, Wyoming) 2001–2005
47. John Sidney McCain (Democratic, Arizona) 2005–2009
48. Timothy James Pawlenty (Republican, Minnesota) 2009–2013
49. Sherrod Campbell Brown (Democratic, Ohio) 2013–2021
50. Susan Elizabeth Rice (Democratic, District of Columbia) 2021–present
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« Reply #1108 on: May 30, 2021, 09:32:14 AM »
« Edited: May 30, 2021, 09:35:55 AM by Ishan »

PREMIERS OF ALBERTA
18. Stephen Mandel (2019-2024)
2019: def. Rachel Notley (NDP), Jason Kenney (UCP) defeated, David Khan (Liberal)
2021: def. Rachel Notley (NDP), Derek Fildebrandt (TIP), Leela Aheer (UCP) defeated, David Khan (Liberal)
19. Greg Clark (2024-2029)
2025: def. Derek Fildebrandt (TIP), David Khan (Liberal), Deron Bilous ​(NDP), Nate Horner (UCP), Jonathan Wilikie (Green)
20. David Khan (2029-)
2029: def. Greg Clark (ABP), Derek Fildebrandt (TIP), Deron Bilous ​(NDP), Jonathan Wilikie (Green), Nate Horner (UCP) defeated
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« Reply #1109 on: June 19, 2021, 08:48:51 AM »

42. William J. Clinton (D-AR)/Albert A. Gore (D-TN) Jan. 20 1993--Jan. 20 2001
43. Albert A. Gore (D-TN)/D. Robert Graham (D-FL) Jan. 20 2001--Jan. 20 2005
44. Rudolph W. Giuliani* (R-NY)/Duncan L. Hunter (R-CA) Jan. 20 2005--Jul. 31 2007
45. Duncan L. Hunter (R-CA)/J.C. Watt (R-OK) Jul. 31 2007--Jan. 20 2009
46. Hillary R. Clinton (D-NY)/Barack H. Obama (D-IL) Jan. 20 2009--Jan. 20 2017
47. Barack H. Obama (D-IL)/Julian Castro (D-TX) Jan. 20 2017--present

*Resigned before he could be impeached
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« Reply #1110 on: June 20, 2021, 12:27:33 PM »

Vice President Reagan:

38. Gerald Ford / Vacant (Republican): 1974
38. Gerald Ford / Ronald Reagan (Republican): 1974-1981
Def. 1976: Jimmy Carter / Walter Mondale (Democratic)
39. Henry "Scoop" Jackson / Reubin Askew (Democratic): 1981-1983*
Def. 1980: Ronald Reagan / John Anderson (Republican)
40. Reubin Askew / Vacant (Democratic): 1983**
40. Reubin Askew / Gary Hart (Democratic): 1983-1993
Def. 1984: Howard Baker / Donald Rumsfeld (Republican)
Def. 1988: Bob Dole / Lamar Alexander (Republican)

41. Carroll Campbell / Jack Kemp (Republican): 1993-2001
Def. 1992: Gary Hart / Jay Rockefeller (Democratic)
Def. 1996: Joe Biden / Ann Richards (Democratic)

42. Jack Kemp / Jim Edgar (Republican): 2001-2005
Def. 2000: Bill Bradley / Paul Wellstone (Democratic)
43. Bob Graham / John Edwards (Democratic): 2005-2009
Def. 2004: Jack Kemp / Jim Edgar (Republican)
44. Mitt Romney / Jeb Bush (Republican): 2009-2017
Def. 2008: Bob Graham / Hillary Rodham (Democratc)***
Def. 2012: Bill Richardson / Mark Warner (Democratic)

45. Jeb Bush / Paul Ryan (Republican): 2017-2021
Def. 2016: Martin O'Malley / Cory Booker (Democratic)
46. Barack Obama / Evan Bayh (Democratic): 2021-Present
Def. 2020: Jeb Bush / Paul Ryan (Republican)
Def. 2024: Paul Ryan / Nikki Haley (Republican)


*= Died of an aortic aneurysm on March 1st, 1983
**= After serving a little over 9 years and 10 months, Askew became the 2nd longest serving President after Franklin Roosevelt.
***= Vice President Edwards was dropped from the ticket in the Summer of 2008 due to numerous scandals and was replaced by Illinois Senator Hillary Rodham.
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« Reply #1111 on: June 20, 2021, 02:21:50 PM »
« Edited: June 21, 2021, 03:34:20 PM by CentristRepublican »

40. Ronald Reagan (R-CA) with George Bush (R-TX) - January 20, 1981 to March 30, 1981*
41. George Bush (R-TX) with Jacob Javits (R-NY) - March 30, 1981 to January 20, 1985
41. George Bush (R-TX) with Bob Dole (R-KS) - January 20, 1985 to January 20, 1989
42. Mario Cuomo (D-NY) with Gary Hart (D-CO)** - January 20, 1989 to January 20, 1997
43. Bob Dole (R-KS) with Paul Laxalt (R-NV)*** - January 20, 1997 to January 20, 2001
44. Al Gore (D-TN) with Bob Graham (D-FL) - January 20, 2001 to January 20, 2009
45. Barack Obama (D-IL) with Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - January 20, 2009 to January 20, 2013
46. Mitt Romney (R-MA) with Rick Santorum (R-PA) - January 20, 2013 to January 20, 2021
47. Joseph R. Biden (D-DE) with Roy Cooper (D-NC)**** - January 20, 2021 to present

*Assassination of Reagan.
**Donna Rice affair is not discovered.
***After retiring from the Senate, Laxalt ran for president in both 1992 and 1996. In 1992 he only carried one state, Nevada, and finished third, but in 1996, he performed much better, and finished second in a bitter primary battle with Dole.
****Biden did not make a promise to select a woman as his running mate, and picked Cooper. He lost the state of Georgia, but made up for it by winning North Carolina narrowly. He also carried Michigan by a smaller margin, just 1.8%.

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« Reply #1112 on: June 20, 2021, 07:16:05 PM »

Inverse of 1968-1988

From 1968 to 2004, Democrats only won three elections to the Republican's seven.

What if that pattern reversed from 2008 to 2044?

2009-2017: Barack Obama (D-IL)/Joe Biden (D-DE)
2008: def. John McCain (R-AZ)/Sarah Palin (R-AK)
2012: def. Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Paul Ryan (R-WI)

2017-2021: Donald Trump (R-NY)/Mike Pence (R-IN)
2016: def. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Tim Kaine (D-VA)
2021-2029: Joe Biden (D-DE)/Kamala Harris (D-CA)
2020: def. Donald Trump (R-FL)/Mike Pence (R-IN)
2024: def. Donald Trump (R-NY)/Ron DeSantis (R-FL)


Biden's first term is fairly successful if underwhelming. Trump declared that he would seek the presidency once again, and pre-emptively announced Ron DeSantis as his running mate. Few other Republicans would dare enter the primary against him, and Trump was nominated with little opposition. However, Trump would go on to lose in the general election. Though Biden lost NE-02 to redistricting, he flipped North Carolina and won the popular vote by 5% for a 318-220 electoral victory.

2029-2033: Kamala Harris/Andy Beshear (D-KY)
2028: def. Kristi Noem (R-SC)/Dan Crenshaw (R-TX)

With Trump out of politics for good - having suffered a mental breakdown after losing to Biden twice in a row - the Republican field was completely open in 2028. Republican strategists desperately wanted to stop the bleeding in the suburbs, and believed that they could avoid accusations of sexism if they nominated a woman to run against Harris. Kristi Noem won the nomination by the skin of her teeth against Donald Trump Jr. She selected Dan Crenshaw as her running mate. Republicans were confident in Noem's chances, and were giddy at the prospect of stealing the milestone of first female president from the Democrats. However, despite record fundraising and a strong debate performance by Noem, the ticket of Kamala Harris/Andy Beshear won the 2028 presidential election - losing Wisconsin and Minnesota, but flipping Texas for a 338-200 electoral victory.

2033-2041: Josh Mandel (R-OH)/Lauren Boebert (R-CO)
2032: def. Kamala Harris/Andy Beshear (D-KY)
2036: def. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY)/Cori Bush (D-MO)


The Democrats' streak of presidential victories would come to an end in 2032. AOC made a bid for the presidency in 2028, but Harris won the nomination fairly easily. And after several Harris policies disappointed the left wing of the left wing of the Democrats, AOC announced her intent to primary Kamala Harris. AOC's gained more traction than she did in 2028, but she failed to win enough delegates and Harris was re-nominated. Republicans, however, were able to unite behind Ohio Senator Josh Mandel fairly easily. Though AOC declined to run as an independent, she also refused to endorse Harris for re-election. Josh Mandel selected Lauren Boebert as his running mate, and defeated the incumbent Harris with a razor thin 270-268 electoral college victory, despite losing the popular vote by almost 6%, having flipped Arizona and Texas.

Mandel proved to be a younger, slightly more competent version of Trump. The Democratic Party was fractured, unable to decide whether AOC's primary challenge and lack of endorsement caused progressives to stay home, or if Harris should have done more to reach out to their wing of the party. Things did not get better in 2036, when AOC ran for a third and final time. This time she managed to win the Democratic nomination against the moderate Krysten Sinema, but she proved to be too far-left for most of the country and lost in a landslide. Mandel was re-elected with 333 electoral votes to AOC's 205. Mandel flipped Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Georgia, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Maine at-large, and Nevada. Mandel even won the popular vote by 0.5%, the first Republican to do so snce George W. Bush in 2004.

2041-2049: Malcolm Kenyatta (D-PA)/Greg Casar (D-TX)
2040: def. Lauren Boebert (R-CO)/Mike Gallagher (R-WI)
2044: def. Candace Owens (R-CT)/Mark Johnson (R-MN)


Mandel's second term was a complete disaster. Having failed to prevent China's invasion of Taiwan, botching the social security crisis, and doing nothing to fight climate change, few Americans were eager to vote for whoever the Republican nominee would be. Democrats saw a competitive but civil primary between Pennsylvania Senator Malcolm Kenyatta and Texas Governor Greg Casar, but the two managed to unite the party. Kenyatta won the nomination, but extended an olive branch and offered Greg Casar the vice presidency, which he accepted. Republicans nominated Vice President Lauren Boebert. Kenyatta won in an a huge landslide, earning 392 electoral votes. He flipped back a number of states: Nevada, Arizona, Texas, Georgia, North Carolina, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Maine at-large, and even Florida, which had not gone to the Democrats since 2012. He won the popular vote by 6%.

Republicans were undergoing an identity crisis, and decided that they had to make an effort to appeal to minorities due to the shrinking non-college white population. They nominated Candace Owens, who had not held elected office but ran for Congress twice (in 2026 and 2030) and served as the RNC Finance Chair since 2039. Republicans assumed that having a woman of color at the top of the ticket would help their chances. Owens improved on their 2040 map, winning back North Carolina and Florida. However, Kenyatta flipped Alaska, giving it to the Democrats for the first time since 1964. Kenyatta won 350-188 and won the popular vote by 8%.
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« Reply #1113 on: June 21, 2021, 09:21:23 AM »

Joe Biden as Eisenhower:

2021-2029: Joe Biden/Kamala Harris
2029-2031: George P. Bush/John Thune
2031-2037: John Thune/Michelle Fischbach
2037-2042: Kamala Harris/Chris Van Hollen, Conor Lamb
2042-2045: Conor Lamb/Letitia James
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« Reply #1114 on: June 21, 2021, 11:42:17 AM »

40. Ronald Reagan (R-CA) with George Bush (R-TX) - January 20, 1981 to March 30, 1981*
41. George Bush (R-TX) with Paul Laxalt (R-NV) - March 30, 1981 to January 20, 1985
41. George Bush (R-TX) with Bob Dole (R-KS) - January 20, 1985 to January 20, 1989
42. Mario Cuomo (D-NY) with Gary Hart (D-CO)** - January 20, 1989 to January 20, 1997
43. Bob Dole (R-KS) with Jacob Javits (R-NY)*** - January 20, 1997 to January 20, 2001
44. Al Gore (D-TN) with Bob Graham (D-FL) - January 20, 2001 to January 20, 2009
45. Barack Obama (D-IL) with Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - January 20, 2009 to January 20, 2013
46. Mitt Romney (R-MA) with Rick Santorum (R-PA) - January 20, 2013 to January 20, 2021
47. Joseph R. Biden (D-DE) with Roy Cooper (D-NC) - January 20, 2021 to present

*Assassination of Reagan.
**Donna Rice affair is not discovered.
***Javits challenged Dole in the GOP primary and carried New York, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, Vermont, New Jersey, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Delaware and Virginia.



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« Reply #1115 on: June 21, 2021, 03:26:39 PM »

40. Ronald Reagan (R-CA) with George Bush (R-TX) - January 20, 1981 to March 30, 1981*
41. George Bush (R-TX) with Paul Laxalt (R-NV) - March 30, 1981 to January 20, 1985
41. George Bush (R-TX) with Bob Dole (R-KS) - January 20, 1985 to January 20, 1989
42. Mario Cuomo (D-NY) with Gary Hart (D-CO)** - January 20, 1989 to January 20, 1997
43. Bob Dole (R-KS) with Jacob Javits (R-NY)*** - January 20, 1997 to January 20, 2001
44. Al Gore (D-TN) with Bob Graham (D-FL) - January 20, 2001 to January 20, 2009
45. Barack Obama (D-IL) with Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - January 20, 2009 to January 20, 2013
46. Mitt Romney (R-MA) with Rick Santorum (R-PA) - January 20, 2013 to January 20, 2021
47. Joseph R. Biden (D-DE) with Roy Cooper (D-NC) - January 20, 2021 to present

*Assassination of Reagan.
**Donna Rice affair is not discovered.
***Javits challenged Dole in the GOP primary and carried New York, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, Vermont, New Jersey, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Delaware and Virginia.



Javits died in 1986.

Oh. Thanks for letting me know; I will correct my list accordingly.
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« Reply #1116 on: June 24, 2021, 04:46:25 PM »

1. Washington (I-VA), 1789-1797
2. J. Adams (F-MA), 1797-1801
3. Jefferson (R-VA), 1801-1809
4. Madison (R-VA), 1809-1817
5. Monroe (R-VA), 1817-1825
6. J. Q. Adams (NR-MA), 1825-1829
7. Jackson (D-TN), 1829-1837

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46. Biden (D-DE), 2021-2029
47. E. Adams (D-NY), 2029-present
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« Reply #1117 on: June 24, 2021, 05:43:14 PM »

1. Washington (I-VA), 1789-1797
2. J. Adams (F-MA), 1797-1801
3. Jefferson (R-VA), 1801-1809
4. Madison (R-VA), 1809-1817
5. Monroe (R-VA), 1817-1825
6. J. Q. Adams (NR-MA), 1825-1829
7. Jackson (D-TN), 1829-1837

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46. Biden (D-DE), 2021-2029
47. E. Adams (D-NY), 2029-present

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« Reply #1118 on: June 24, 2021, 10:57:38 PM »

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PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
1. George Washington (No party, Virginia) April 30, 1789–March 4, 1797
2. John Adams (Federalist, Massachusetts) March 4, 1797–March 4, 1801
3. Thomas Jefferson (Republican, Virginia) March 4, 1801–February 15, 1809 *
4. George Clinton (Republican, New York) February 15, 1809–March 4, 1809
5. James Madison (Republican, Virginia) March 4, 1809–March 4, 1817
6. James Monroe (Republican, Virginia) March 4, 1817–March 4, 1825
7. John Quincy Adams (Republican, Massachusetts) March 4, 1825–March 4, 1829

8. Andrew Jackson (Democratic Republican, Tennessee) March 4, 1829–March 4, 1837
9. Martin Van Buren (Democratic Republican, New York) March 4, 1837–March 4, 1841

10. William Henry Harrison (Whig, Ohio) March 4, 1841–April 4, 1841 †
11. John Tyler (Whig, Virginia) April 4, 1841–January 31, 1843 *
12. Willie Person Magnum (Whig, North Carolina) January 31, 1843–March 4, 1845

13. James Knox Polk (Democratic, Tennessee) March 4, 1845–March 4, 1849
14. Zachary Taylor (Whig, Louisiana) March 4, 1849–July 9, 1850 †
15. Millard Fillmore (Whig, New York) July 9, 1850–March 4, 1853

16. Franklin Pierce (Democratic, New Hampshire) March 4, 1853–March 4, 1857
17. James Buchanan (Democratic, Pennsylvania) March 4, 1857–July 8, 1860 *
18. John Cabel Breckinridge (Democratic, Kentucky) July 8, 1860–March 4, 1861

19. Abraham Lincoln (Republican, Illinois) March 4, 1861–April 15, 1865 ‡
20. Andrew Johnson (National Union, Tennessee) April 15, 1865–December 16, 1867 *
21. Benjamin Franklin Wade (Republican, Ohio) December 16, 1867–May 26, 1868 *
22. Henry Bowen Anthony (Republican, Rhode Island) May 26, 1868–March 4, 1869
23. Ulysses S. Grant (Republican, Ohio) March 4, 1869–June 24, 1876 *
24. Henry Wilson (Republican, Massachusetts) June 24, 1876–March 4, 1877
25. Rutherford Birchard Hayes (Republican, Ohio) March 4, 1877–March 4, 1881
26. James Abram Garfield (Republican, Ohio) March 4, 1881–September 19, 1881 ‡
27. Chester Alan Arthur (Republican, New Jersey) September 19, 1881–March 4, 1885

28. Stephen Grover Cleveland (Democratic, New York) March 4, 1885–March 4, 1889
29. Benjamin Harrison (Republican, Indiana) March 4, 1889–March 4, 1893
30. Stephen Grover Cleveland (Democratic, New York) March 4, 1893–June 14, 1896 *
31. Adlai Ewing Stevenson I (Democratic, Illinois) June 14, 1896–March 4, 1897

32. William McKinley (Republican, Ohio) March 4, 1897–September 14, 1901 ‡
33. Theodore Roosevelt (Republican, New York) September 14, 1901–March 4, 1909
34. William Howard Taft (Republican, Ohio) March 4, 1909–March 4, 1913

35. Thomas Woodrow Wilson (Republican, New Jersey) March 4, 1913–March 4, 1921
36. Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican, Ohio) March 4, 1921–August 2, 1923 †
37. John Calvin Coolidge (Republican, Massachusetts) August 2, 1923–March 4, 1929
38. Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican, California) March 4, 1929–January 3, 1933 *
39. Charles Curtis (Republican, Kansas) January 3, 1933–February 7, 1933 *
40. Henry Lewis Stimson (Republican, New York) February 7, 1933–March 4, 1933

41. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democratic, New York) March 4, 1933–April 12, 1945 †
42. Harry S. Truman (Democratic, Missouri) April 12, 1945–January 8, 1952 *
43. Alben William Barkley (Democratic, Kentucky) January 8, 1952–May 13, 1952 *
44. Samuel Taliaferro Rayburn (Democratic, Texas) May 13, 1952–January 20, 1953

45. Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican, Kansas) January 20, 1953–January 20, 1961
46. John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democratic, Massachusetts) January 20, 1961–November 22, 1963 ‡
47. Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democratic, Texas) November 22, 1963–January 20, 1969

48. Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican, California) January 20, 1969–September 10, 1974 *
49. Gerald Rudolph Ford (Republican, Michigan) September 10, 1974–January 20, 1977

50. James Earl Carter (Democratic, Georgia) January 20, 1977–January 20, 1981
51. Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican, California) January 20, 1981–December 1, 1983 *
52. George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican, Texas) December 1, 1983–March 26, 1987 *
53. James Danforth Quayle (Republican, Indiana) March 26, 1987–February 6, 1991 *
54. Mary Elizabeth Alexander Hanford Dole (Republican, North Carolina) February 6, 1991–March 14, 1991 *

55. Thomas Stephen Foley (Democratic, Washington) March 14, 1991–January 20, 1993
56. William Jefferson Clinton (Democratic, Arkansas) January 20, 1993–February 12, 1999 *
57. Albert Arnold Gore (Democratic, Tennessee) February 12, 1999–January 20, 2001

58. George Walker Bush (Republican, Texas) January 20, 2001–January 8, 2007 *
59. Richard Bruce Cheney (Republican, Wyoming) January 8, 2007–June 30, 2008 *
60. John Claggett Danforth (Republican, Missouri) June 30, 2008–August 4, 2008 *

61. Nancy Patricia D'Alesandro Pelosi (Democratic, California) August 4, 2008–January 20, 2009
62. Barack Hussein Obama (Democratic, Illinois) January 20, 2009–January 20, 2017

63. Donald John Trump (Republican, New York) January 20, 2017–November 26, 2017 *
64. Michael Richard Pence (Republican, Indiana) November 26, 2017–February 5, 2020 *
65. Newton Leroy Gingrich (Republican, Georgia) February 5, 2020–January 7, 2021 *
66. Ivana Marie Trump (Republican, Florida) January 7, 2021–January 20, 2021

67. Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr. (Democratic, Delaware) January 20, 2021–February 11, 2021 *
68. Kamala Devi Harris (Democratic, California) February 11, 2021–present
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« Reply #1119 on: June 25, 2021, 09:16:37 AM »

Surprised there aren't any butterflies from all the impeachments. (Then again, my maximum assassinations list didn't have many butterflies either)
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« Reply #1120 on: June 25, 2021, 03:38:30 PM »

So you're telling me LBJ never got impeached in the maximum impeachment scenario?
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« Reply #1121 on: June 25, 2021, 05:20:26 PM »

17. Andrew Johnson (April 15, 1865-May 28, 1868)
18. Schulyer Colfax (May 28, 1868-March 4, 1869)
19. Ulysses Grant (March 4, 1869-March 4, 1877)
20. William B. Washburn (March 4, 1877-March 4, 1881)
21. Rutherford B. Hayes (March 4, 1881-June 22, 1883)
22. James A. Garfield (June 22, 1883-March 4, 1889)
23. Benjamin Harrison (March 4, 1889-March 4, 1893)
24. Grover Cleveland (March 4, 1893-March 4, 1897)
25. William McKinley (March 4, 1897-March 4, 1901)
26. Theodore Roosevelt (March 4, 1901-March 4, 1909)
27. William Howard Taft (March 4, 1909-March 4, 1913)
28. Thomas Marshall (March 4, 1913-March 4, 1917)
29. Charles Evans Hughes (March 4, 1917-October 10, 1920)
30. Warren G. Harding (October 10, 1920-March 4, 1921)
31. Calvin Coolidge (March 4, 1921-March 4, 1929)
32. Alfred Smith (March 4, 1929-January 20, 1933)
33. Benjamin O. Davis Sr. (January 20, 1933-January 20, 1945)
34. Thomas Dewey (January 20, 1945-January 20, 1949)
35. Dwight Eisenhower (January 20, 1949-January 20, 1957)
36. John Fitzgerald Kennedy (January 20, 1957-January 20, 1961)
37. Daniel Inouye (January 20, 1961-January 20, 1969)
38. Nelson Rockefeller (January 20, 1969-September 14, 1975)
39. Jimmy Carter (September 14, 1975-January 20, 1977)
40. Ted Kennedy (January 20, 1977-January 20, 1981)
41. Gerald Ford (January 20, 1981-January 20, 1989)
42. Morgan Freeman (January 20, 1989-January 20, 1997)
43. Al Gore (January 20, 1997-January 20, 2001)
44. Caesar Chavez (January 20, 2001-January 20, 2009)
45. Bill Weld (January 20, 2009-January 20, 2017)
46. Barack Obama (January 20, 2017-Present)
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« Reply #1122 on: June 25, 2021, 06:55:20 PM »

Surprised there aren't any butterflies from all the impeachments. (Then again, my maximum assassinations list didn't have many butterflies either)
Yeah, the goal of both lists was to stay as close to OTL as possible besides the explicit premise.

So you're telling me LBJ never got impeached in the maximum impeachment scenario?
Nobody filed articles of impeachment against him, amazingly!
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« Reply #1123 on: July 14, 2021, 01:43:21 AM »

If Nixon won in 1960 and Passed Civil Rights:

35: Richard Nixon 1961-1969
36: Stuart Symington 1969-1977
37: Edmund Muskie 1977-1981

38: Jack Kemp 1981-1989
39: Bob Dole 1989-1993

40: Sam Nunn 1993-2001
41: Joe Biden 2001-2005
42: Rudy Guiliani 2005-2013
43: Mary Landrieu 2013-2021
44: Tim Scott 2021- Present
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« Reply #1124 on: July 14, 2021, 05:54:16 AM »

If Nixon won in 1960 and Passed Civil Rights:

35: Richard Nixon 1961-1969
36: Stuart Symington 1969-1977
37: Edmund Muskie 1977-1981

38: Jack Kemp 1981-1989
39: Bob Dole 1989-1993

40: Sam Nunn 1993-2001
41: Joe Biden 2001-2005
42: Rudy Guiliani 2005-2013
43: Mary Landrieu 2013-2021
44: Tim Scott 2021- Present

That would be a good timeline to see after your McCain timeline (please let that go until 2016!)
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