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Mitch O'Donnell, Mayor of Louisville
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« Reply #1075 on: March 04, 2021, 02:01:40 AM »

HELL:

George Wallace (D-AL)| 1961-1965
Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)| 1965-1969
Spiro Agnew (R-MD)| 1969-1973
Strom Thurmond (D-SC)| 1973-1981
Russell Long (D-LA)| 1981-1989
Bob Dole (R-KS)| 1989-1993
Pat Buchanan (R-GA)| 1993-2001
Dick Cheney (R-WY)| 2001-2009
Donald Trump (R-NY)| 2009-2017
Josh Hawley (R-MO)| 2017-

HEAVEN:

Jacob Javits (R-NY)| 1961-1963 (A)
Margaret Chase-Smith (R-ME)| 1963-1969
George Romney (R-MI)| 1969-1977
Jimmy Carter (D-GA)| 1977-1981
Birch Bayh (D-IN)| 1981-1989
George HW Bush (R-TX)| 1989-1997
William Cohen (R-ME)| 1997-2005
William Weld (R-MA)| 2005-2009
John McCain (R-AZ)| 2009-2017
Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)| 2017-
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« Reply #1076 on: March 04, 2021, 12:32:27 PM »

[might flesh this out later with some losing candidates]
Henry Wallace (D-IA) 1945-1949
Robert Taft (R-OH) 1949-1957
Estes Kefauver (D-TN) 1957-1965
Richard Nixon (R-CA) 1965-1968 [impeached and removed]
Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) 1968-1969
Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY) 1969-1977
Phil Crane (R-IL) 1977-1981
Walter Mondale (D-MN) 1981-1985
Jack Kemp (R-NY) 1985-1989
Joe Biden (D-DE) 1989-1997
Al Gore (D-TN) 1997-2001
Steve Forbes (R-NJ) 2001-2005
Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) 2005-2013
Jeb Bush (R-FL) 2013-2017
Mary Landrieu (D-LA) 2017-
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« Reply #1077 on: March 04, 2021, 07:26:08 PM »

Populism Universe

45. Donald Trump / Gov. Mike Pence (Republican): 2017-2020*
46. VP Mike Pence / Former Amb. Nikki Haley (Republican): 2020-2021
47. Andrew Yang / Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (Democratic): 2021-2022**
48. VP Tulsi Gabbard / Sen. Richard Ojeda (Populist): 2022-2025
49. Former Sen. Joe Manchin / Gov. Charlie Baker (Democratic): 2025-2029
50. Tucker Carlson / Sen. Krystal Ball (Populist): 2029-2033***
51. Nick Fuentes / June Lapine (Populist): 2033-2041

* Died from COVID-19
** Assassinated
*** Defeated in primary

Losing Tickets
2020: Pres. Mike Pence / VP. Nikki Haley (Republican)
2024: Daniel Keem / Gov. Alex Jones (Republican), Gov. Ben Shapiro / Gov. Rand Paul (Libertarian)
2028: Pres. Joe Manchin / VP Charlie Baker (Democratic), Former VP Nikki Haley / Former Sen. Lindsay Graham (Republican)
2032: Sen. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez / Rep. Ilhan Omar (Social-Democratic), Sen. Tom Cotton / Gov. Tim Scott (Conservative), Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz / Former Gov. Roy Cooper (Democratic)
2036: Vaush Yorhanz / Sen. Ro Khanna (Social-Democratic), Sen. Elon Musk / Dave Rubin (Libertarian)
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« Reply #1078 on: March 06, 2021, 10:25:29 AM »

Ike as McKinley

34. Dwight D. Eisenhower/Richard Nixon 1953-1955, vacant 1955-1957, Earl Warren 1957
35. Earl Warren/vacant 1957-1961, Everett Dirksen 1961-1965
36. Nelson Rockefeller/Walter Judd 1965-1968, vacant 1968-1969
37. Pat Brown/John Connally 1969-1977
38. Spiro Agnew/Bob Dole 1977-1979
39. Bob Dole/vacant 1979-1981, George H.W. Bush 1981-1985
40. George P. Schultz/Howard Baker 1985-1989
41. Robert P. Casey/Tom Foley 1989-1997, Paul Wellstone 1997-2001, Bob Kerrey 2001
42. Bob Kerrey/vacant 2001-2005, Chris Dodd 2005-2009
43. David Petraeus/Michael Steele 2009-2017
44. Cory Booker/Michael Bennet 2017-2019
45. Michael Bennet/vacant 2019-2021, Barack Obama 2021-2025
46. Michael Steele/Ron DeSantis 2025-2029

Losing Tickets

1952: Estes Kefauver/W. Averell Harriman
1956: Estes Kefauver/Alben Barkley
1960: Dean Acheson/John F. Kennedy
1964: Estes Kefauver/Ralph Yarborough
1968: Nelson Rockefeller/George Christopher, Earl Warren/William Scranton
1972: Mark Hatfield/Everett Dirksen
1976: Marvin Mandel/Robert P. Casey
1980: Cyrus Vance/Jim Sasser
1984: Milton Shapp/Alan Cranston
1988: George P. Schultz/Howard Baker
1992: Pete du Pont/William Bennett
1996: Steve Forbes/Alan Simpson
2000: Tom Ridge/Tommy Thompson
2004: Tom Ridge/Rick Perry
2008: Steve Beshear/Jack Reed
2012: Steve Beshear/Bob Casey
2016: Michael Steele/Chris Christie
2020: Rand Paul/Brian Fitzpatrick
2024: Barack Obama/Chris Murphy
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« Reply #1079 on: March 06, 2021, 08:07:30 PM »

43rd Al Gore 2001 to 2009
44th Dick Cheney 2009 to 2017
45th Eric Holder 2017 to 2020 DIA
46th Andrew Cuomo 2020 to Present
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« Reply #1080 on: March 07, 2021, 09:38:22 PM »

Presidents of the United States (Veep Universe)

40. Ronald Reagan (R-CA), 1981-1989
41. Robert Stevenson (R-NY), 1989-1997

42. Al Gore (D-TN), 1997-2005
43. John McCain (R-AZ), 2005-2013
44. Stuart Hughes (D-MI), 2013-2016
45. Selina Meyer (D-MD), 2016-2017

46. (Acting President) Laura Montez (R-NM), 2017-2021
47. Selina Meyer (D-MD) , 2021-2025
48. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL), 2025-2033
49. Oluwakemi Talbot (D-NY), 2033-2041
50. Richard Splett (D-IA), 2041-


Vice Presidents of the United States

43. Congressman Robert Stevenson (R-NY), 1981-1989
44. Governor George H.W. Bush (R-TX), 1989-1997

45. Senator Bob Graham (D-FL), 1997-2005
46. Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA), 2005-2013
47. Senator Selina Meyer (D-MD), 2013-2016
Vacant from January 24th, 2016 to February 19th, 2016
48. Senator Andrew Doyle (D-VA), 2016-2017
Vacant from January 20th, 2017 to April 9th, 2017
49. Governor John Kasich (R-OH), 2017-2021
50. Former Congressman Jonah Ryan (D-NH), 2021-2025
Vacant from April 4th, 2022 to August 23rd, 2022
51. Governor Richard Splett (D-IA), 2022-2025
51. Congresswoman Elise Stefanik (R-NY), 2025-2033
52. Former VP Richard Splett (D-IA), 2033-2041
53. Former Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D-MI), 2041-

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« Reply #1081 on: March 09, 2021, 03:32:32 PM »

1. George Washington (W–VA)
——1789-1799 (10 years, Died in office)
2. John Adams (W–MA)
——1799-1801 (2 years, Defeated for re-election)
3. Thomas Jefferson (J–VA)
——1801-1809 (8 years, Defeated for re-election)
4. Alexander Hamilton (W–NY)
——1809-1825 (16 years, Retired)
5. Henry Clay (W–KY)
——1825-1845 (20 years, Retired)
6. James K. Polk (J–TN)
——1845-1849 (4 years, Retired)
7. William H. Seward (N–NY)
——1849-1865 (16 years, Assassinated)
8. Abraham Lincoln (N–IL)
——1865-1877 (12 years, Retired)
9. James G. Blaine (N–ME)
——1877-1881 (4 years, Defeated for re-nomination)
10. Roscoe Conkling (N–NY)
——1881-1885 (4 years, Defeated for re-nomination)
(9). James G. Blaine (N–ME)
——1885-1893 (8 years, Retired)
11. Robert Todd Lincoln (N–NY)
——1893-1909 (16 years, Retired)
12. Theodore Roosevelt (P–NY)
——1909-1919 (10 years, Died in office)
13. Robert M. La Follette (P–WI)
——1919-1925 (6 years, Died in office)
14. Jane Addams (P–IL)
——1925-1933 (8 years, Retired)
15. Franklin D. Roosevelt (P–NY)
——1933-1937 (4 years, Defeated for re-election)
16. Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr. (D–MA)
——1937-1945 (8 years, Retired)
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« Reply #1082 on: March 12, 2021, 09:36:32 PM »

Presidents of the United States Since 2001:

43. Al Gore / Joe Lieberman (Democratic): 2001-2005
44. John McCain / George Allen (Republican): 2005-2009
45. Joe Biden / Barack Obama (Democratic): 2009-2017
46. Ted Cruz / Scott Walker (Republican): 2017-2021
47. Barack Obama / Jeff Merkley (Democratic): 2021-Incumbent

Defeated Tickets:

2000: George W. Bush / Dick Cheney
2004: Al Gore / Joe Lieberman
2008: John McCain / George Allen
2012: Mitch Daniels / Jon Huntsman (Republican)
2016: Hillary Clinton / Tim Ryan (Democratic)[1]
2020: Ted Cruz / Scott Walker

[1]= Won the National Popular vote by 1.5 million votes.
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« Reply #1083 on: March 13, 2021, 01:48:38 AM »

38. Gerald Ford (1974-1981)
39. Walter Mondale (1981-1989)
40. Mondale’s VP (1989-1993)
41. A centrist Republican (1993-2001)
42. A Democrat in the spirit of Mondale (2001-2009)
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« Reply #1084 on: March 27, 2021, 10:04:01 PM »
« Edited: March 27, 2021, 10:23:26 PM by dw93 »

Presidents and Vice Presidents of the United States Since 1981:

40. Ronald Reagan / Donald Rumsfeld (Republican): 1981-1989
Def. 1980: Jimmy Carter / Walter Mondale (Democratic)
Def. 1984: Walter Mondale / Geraldine Ferraro (Democratic)

41. Donald Rumsfeld / Paul Laxalt (Republican): 1989-1993
Def. 1988: Michael Dukakis / Bill Clinton (Democratic)
42. Sam Nunn / Dick Gephardt (Democratic): 1993-2001
Def. 1992: Donald Rumsfeld / Paul Laxalt (Republican)
Def. 1996: Paul Laxalt / Newt Gingrich (Republican)

43. Dick Gephardt / Al Gore (Democratic): 2001-2005
Def. 2000: George Pataki / Elizabeth Dole (Republican), Pat Buchanan / Jerry Falwell (Conservative)
44. Jeb Bush / Fred Thompson (Republican): 2005-2009
Def. 2004: Dick Gephardt / Al Gore (Democratic), Ralph Nader / Mike Gravel (Green)
45. Al Gore / Russ Feingold (Democratic): 2009-2017
Def. 2008: Jeb Bush / Fred Thompson (Republican)
Def. 2012: Jon Huntsman / John Cornyn (Republican)

46. John Kasich / Brian Sandoval (Republican): 2017-2025
Def. 2016: Russ Feingold / Deval Patrick (Democratic)
Def. 2020: Cory Booker / John Hickenlooper (Democratic)

47. Sherrod Brown / Catherine Cortez Masto (Democratic): 2025-Incumbent
Def. 2024: Brian Sandoval / Joni Ernst (Republican)
Def. 2028: Ron DeSantis / John Thune (Republican)


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« Reply #1085 on: April 01, 2021, 05:29:41 PM »

40. Ronald Reagan (R-Calif) & George H. W. Bush (R-Texas), 1981-1985
—— 1980: Reagan/Bush def. Carter/Mondale
41. Gary Hart (D-Colo) & Bob Graham (D-Fla), 1985-1989
—— 1984: Hart/Graham def. Reagan/Bush
42. Bob Dole (R-Kan) & John Sununu (R-NH), 1989-1993
—— 1988: Dole/Sununu def. Hart/Graham
43. Bob Graham (D-Fla) & Ann Richards (D-Texas), 1993-2001
—— 1992: Graham/Richards def. Dole/Sununu
—— 1996: Graham/Richards def. Sununu/Dole (Elizabeth)
44. Ann Richards (D-Texas) & Jim Hunt (D-NC), 2001-2005
—— 2000: Richards/Hunt def. Bush (W.)/Quayle
45. George W. Bush (R-Texas) & Elizabeth Dole (D-NC), 2005-2009
—— 2004: Bush/Dole def. Kerry/Edwards
46. Barack Obama (D-Ill) & Joe Biden (D-Del), 2009-2017
—— 2008: Obama/Biden def. Bush/Dole
—— 2012: Obama/Biden def. Gingrich/Rubio
47. Joe Biden (D-Del) & Chris Lu (D-NJ), 2017-2025
—— 2016: Biden/Lu def. Rubio/Pence
—— 2020: Biden/Lu def. Pence/Haley
48. Chris Lu (D-NJ) & Michelle Lujan Grisham (D-NM), 2025-present
—— 2024: Lu/Lujan Grisham def. Cruz/Haley
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Mitch O'Donnell, Mayor of Louisville
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« Reply #1086 on: April 01, 2021, 08:39:49 PM »

Dems a bit better and R's a bit worse.

41. George HW Bush (1989-1993)
42. William J. Clinton (1993-2001)
43. Al Gore (2001-2005)
44. George W Bush (2005-2009)
45. Barack Obama (2009-2017)
46. Donald J. Trumpf (2017-2021)
47. Joe Biden (2021-)

44. Dan Quayle (1989-1993)
45. Al Gore (1993-2001)
46. Joe Lieberman (2001-2005)
47. Dick Cheney (2005) (impeached and died of heart attack before trial)
-VACANT- (2005-2006)
-William Cohen- (Nomination passed 100-0)
48. William Cohen (2006-2009)
49. Joe Biden (2009-2017)
50. Tim Kaine (2017) (resigned even though duly elected by the Senate)
-VACANT- (2017-2018)
-Donald Trump Junior- (Nomination failed 78-22)
-Rex Tillerson (Nomination failed 55-45)
-William Weld (Nomination passed 98-2)
51. William Weld (2018) (resigned)
-VACANT- (2018)
-Josh Hawley (Nomination failed 50-50, then 50-50, then 50-49)
-Josh Hawley (Nomination failed 62-38)
-Marco Rubio (Nomination passed 51-48)
52. Marco Rubio (2018-2021)
53. Kamala Harris (2021-)

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« Reply #1087 on: April 05, 2021, 06:29:57 AM »

43. George W. Bush (Republican-Texas) (2001-2005)†
44. Dick Cheney (Republican-Wyoming) (2005-2009)*
45. Hillary R. Clinton (Democrat-New York) (2009-2013)*
46. John E. 'Jeb' Bush (Republican-Texas) (2013-2021)
47. John B. Edwards (Democrat-Louisiana) (2021-2029)
48. Melinda Phillips (Democrat-Minnesota) (2029-present)

*lost reelection, †died in office

A timeline where the neoconservative movement is stronger and longer lasting, with the presidency of Hillary Clinton merely being an interruption. Republicans in JEB's first 100 days push through statehood for Guantanamo Bay (GB), giving Republicans a free congressman and 2 free senators. Democrats are barely able to attain ballot access thanks to partisan Republicans in the officer corp. Democrats finally show signs of life in 2020, as protest votes for terrorist inmates at GB receive write in votes from soldiers. Edwards, a conservative southern Democrat, presides over a slow return to sanity for the Republic. He has to deal with Speaker of the House Amy McGrath (Republican-Kentucky) and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (also Republican-Kentucky) during much of his time, but is able to block their far-right agenda. Finally in 2028 Democrats are back in power for real. The abolition of the state of GB is on the table, as are statehood for DC and PR, pushing the number of states up to 52.

Based on entry #4 here, which contains some amazing and a few wacky alternative history scenarios.
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« Reply #1088 on: April 06, 2021, 06:50:40 PM »
« Edited: April 07, 2021, 01:20:11 PM by Unconditional Surrender Truman »

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
35. John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democratic, Massachusetts) 1961–1963 ‡
36. Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democratic, Texas) 1963–1969
37. Robert Francis Kennedy (Democratic, New York) 1969–1977

38. Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican, California) 1977–1981
39. Birch Evans Bayh (Democratic, Indiana) 1981–1989
40. Lloyd Millard Bentsen (Democratic, Texas) 1989–1993

41. Peter Barton Wilson (Republican, California) 1993–2001
42. John Richard Kasich (Republican, Ohio) 2001–2009

43. Hillary Dianne Rodham (Democratic, New York) 2009–2017
44. Barack Hussein Obama (Democratic, Illinois) 2017–present
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« Reply #1089 on: April 06, 2021, 07:32:41 PM »

Herbert Hoover: March 4, 1929-January 20, 1937
---(First Period of Unrest)
Jack Reed: January 20, 1937-April 2, 1937*
---(Recovery)---
Douglas MacArthur: April 2, 1937-January 20, 1965
Lyndon Johnson: January 20, 1965-January 20, 1969
---(Second Period of Unrest)
Ronald Reagan: January 20, 1969-July 14, 1975**
Spiro Agnew: July 14, 1975-January 20, 1977
---(Era of American Greatness)---
Jimmy Carter: January 20, 1977-January 20, 1985
Joe Biden: January 20, 1985-January 20, 1993
John Kasich: January 20, 1993-January 20, 2001
William Blythe: January 20, 2001-January 20, 2009
Bill Weld: January 20, 2009-January 20, 2017
Barack Obama: January 20, 2017-
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« Reply #1090 on: April 08, 2021, 01:48:48 AM »


PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
1. George Washington (Unaffiliated, Virginia) 1789–1797
2. Aaron Burr (Republican, New York) 1797–1801
3. Thomas Jefferson (Republican, Virginia) 1801–1809
4. James Madison (Republican, Virginia) 1809–1813
5. DeWitt Clinton (Republican, New York) 1813–1817

6. Rufus King (Federalist, New York) 1817–1821
7. John Quincy Adams (National Republican, Massachusetts) 1821–1833
8. Henry Clay (National Republican, Kentucky) 1833–1837
9. Daniel Webster (Whig, Massachusetts) 1837–1841

10. Martin Van Buren (Democratic, New York) 1841–1845
11. James Knox Polk (Democratic, Tennessee) 1845–1849

12. Martin Van Buren (Free Soil, New York) 1849–1853
13. Winfield Scott (Whig, New Jersey) 1853–1857
14. John Charles Frιmont (Republican, California) 1857–1861
15. Abraham Lincoln (Republican, Illinois) 1861–1865 ‡

16. Andrew Johnson (National Union, Tennessee) 1865–1869
17. Ulysses S. Grant (Republican, Ohio) 1869–1877
18. Samuel Jones Tilden (Democratic, New York) 1877–1881
19. Winfield Scott Hancock (Democratic, Pennsylvania) 1881–1885
20. Stephen Grover Cleveland (Democratic, New York) 1885–1893

21. James Baird Weaver (People's, Iowa) 1893–1897
22. William Jennings Bryan (Democratic, Nebraska) 1897–1905
23. Theodore Roosevelt (Republican, New York) 1905–1909
24. Eugene Victor Debs (Socialist, Indiana) 1909–1917
25. Charles Evans Hughs (Republican, New York) 1917–1921
26. Eugene Victor Debs (Socialist, Indiana) 1921–1925
27. Robert Marion LaFollette (Progressive, Wisconsin) 1925–1925 †
28. Burton Kendall Wheeler (Progressive, Montana) 1925–1929

29. Alfred Emmanuel Smith (Democratic, New York) 1929–1933
30. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democratic, New York) 1933–1945 †
31. Harry S. Truman (Democratic, Missouri) 1945–1953

32. Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican, Kansas) 1953–1961
33. John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democratic, Massachusetts) 1961–1963 ‡
34. Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democratic, Texas) 1963–1965

35. Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller (Republican, New York) 1965–1969
36. Robert Francis Kennedy (Democratic, Massachusetts) 1969–1973
37. Paul Norton McCloskey (Republican, California) 1973–1977
38. Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican, California) 1977–1985

39. John Herschel Glenn (Democratic, Ohio) 1985–1989
40. Michael Stanley Dukakis (Democratic, Massachusetts) 1989–1993
41. Paul Efthemios Tsongas (Democratic, Massachusetts) 1993–1997
42. William Jefferson Clinton (Democratic, Arkansas) 1997–2001

43. John Sidney McCain (Republican, Arizona) 2001–2005
44. Howard Brush Dean (Democratic, Vermont) 2005–[obscured]
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« Reply #1091 on: April 08, 2021, 03:02:06 AM »
« Edited: April 08, 2021, 03:07:53 AM by McGarnagle's End Times Cavalcade »

Gore defeats Bush in 2000

43 - President Al Gore (D-TN), 2001-2009
2000 - Gore/Graham defeats Bush/Cheney
2004 - Gore/Graham defeats Huckabee/Brownback

Vice President Gore narrowly defeated Governor Bush in 2000, winning Florida by 0.5% thanks in part to his running mate, Senator Bob Graham. In response to the 9/11 attacks, President Gore launched military operations in Afghanistan, which resulted in the capture of Osama bin Laden in December 2001 at the battle of Tora Bora. Gore did not invade Iraq, but kept Clinton's sanctions in place. Gore was re-elected with a majority of the popular vote against Mike Huckabee, who voters viewed as too socially conservative.

44 - President John McCain (R-AZ), 2009-2017
2008 - McCain/Pawlenty defeats Graham/Lieberman
2012 - McCain/Pawlenty defeats Kerry/O'Malley

Amidst the 2008 Recession, Senator McCain defeated Vice President Graham. McCain passed tax cuts and campaign finance reform while persuing a more hawkish foreign policy than President Gore that included airstrikes against Iraq, Iran and Hamas. McCain was narrowly re-elected, defeating fellow Vietnam veteran John Kerry in 2012.

45 - President Hillary Clinton (D-NY), 2017-2021
2016 - Clinton/Kaine defeats Pawlenty/Ryan

Donald Trump decides to forgo running for President and remains host of The Apprentice. After sweeping the Democratic Primary with little opposition, Senator Hillary Clinton narrowly defeated Vice President Pawlenty in an upset. Clinton had difficult working with a Republican Congress, and her last year in office was consumed by the COVID-19 pandemic, which dented her approvals. A more coordinated federal response results in fewer deaths but is met with widespread opposition from Republicans, who limit the stimulus to a one time $500 check. Kasich promises $1000 relief checks and lower taxes if he is elected, and goes on to defeat President Clinton.

46 - President John Kasich (R-OH), 2021-Present
2020 - Kasich/Romney defeats Clinton/Kaine

President Kasich lowers taxes in his first hundred days in office, and signs the 2021 Recovery Act distributing $750 checks while overseeing the federal distribution of vaccines. Three-term Senator Barack Obama is considered the Democratic frontrunner for 2024 - Obama criticizes Kasich for promising $1000 checks and delivering $750 ones, and advocates for $1500 checks.
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