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« Reply #125 on: August 08, 2017, 04:01:07 PM »
« edited: August 08, 2017, 04:21:35 PM by dw93 »

President Cuomo and Beyond:
41. George Bush | Dan Quayle (Republican)Sad 1989-1993
Def. 1988: Michael Dukakis | Lloyd Bentsen (Democratic)

42. Mario Cuomo | Dick Gephardt (Democratic)Sad 1993-2001
Def. 1992: George Bush | Dan Quayle (Republican), Ross Perot | James Stockdale (Independent)
Def. 1996: Newt Gingrich | Pete Wilson (Republican), Ross Perot | Pat Choate (Reform)

43. Dick Gephardt | John Kerry (Democratic)Sad 2001-2005
Def. 2000: George Pataki | Elizabeth Dole (Republican)

44. Jeb Bush | Rob Portman (Republican)Sad 2005-2013
Def. 2004: Dick Gephardt | John Kerry (Democratic)
Def. 2008: John Kerry | Howard Dean (Democratic)

45. Russ Feingold | Martin O'Malley (Democratic)Sad 2013-Incumbent
Def. 2012: Rob Portman | Mike Huckabee (Republican)
Def. 2016: Mitt Romney | Paul Ryan (Republican)

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« Reply #126 on: August 08, 2017, 09:49:46 PM »

Presidents
25. William Jennings Bryan (D, Nebraska) 1897 - 1905
26. Theodore Roosevelt (R, New York) 1905 - 1913
27. Woodrow Wilson (D, New Jersey) 1913 - 1917
28. Charles W. Fairbanks (R, Indiana) 1917 - 1918
29. Elmer Burkett (R, Nebraska) 1918 - 1925
30. Calvin Coolidge (R, Massachusetts) 1925 - 1933
31. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D, New York) 1933 - 1945

Vice Presidents
24. Arthur Sewall (D, Maine) 1897 - 1900)
25. David B. Hill (D, New York) 1901 - 1905
26. Charles W. Fairbanks (R, Indiana) 1905 - 1913
27. Thomas R. Marshall (D, Indiana) 1913 - 1917
28. Elmer Burkett (R, Nebraska) 1917 - 1918
29. Calvin Coolidge (R, Massachusetts) 1921 - 1925
30. Herbert Hoover (R, California) 1925 - 1933
31. John Nance Garner (D, Texas) 1933 - 1941
32. Henry Wallace (D, Iowa) 1941 - 1945
33. Harry S. Truman (D, Missouri) 1945
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« Reply #127 on: August 09, 2017, 03:11:24 PM »

1913-1921: William Jennings Bryan/Newton D. Baker
1921-1924: Gov. Charles Joseph Bonaparte(R-MD)/Charles Evan Hughes(R-NY)
1924-1933: VP Charles Evan Hughes(R-NY)/Rep. Ira Clifton Coeu(R-IL)
1933-1941: Gov. Charles W. Bryan(D-NE)/Sen. Alfred Smith(D-NY)
1941-1944: Sen. Hiram Johnson(R-CA)/Attorney General and Fmr. Gov. Thomas Dewey(R-NY)
1944-1953: VP Thomas Dewey(R-NY)/Gen. Theodore Roosevelt, Jr.(R-MA)
1953-1956: Gov. Ruth Bryan Owen(D-NE)/Sen. Harry S. Truman(D-MO)
1956-1961: Sen. Harry S. Truman(D-MO)/Sen. Coke Stevenson(D-TX)
1961-1963: Gov. Thomas Dewey, Jr.(R-NY)/Gov. Winthrop Rockefeller(R-AR)
1963-1969: VP Winthrop Rockefeller(R-AR)/Commerce Secretary Theodore Roosevelt, III(R-PA)
1969-1977: Sen. Stuart Symington(D-MO)/Sen. George Smathers(D-FL)
1977-1981: Secretary of State Scoop Jackson(D-NY)/Gov. Sam Yorty(D-NE)
1981-1984: Mayor John Lindsay(R-NY)/Sen. Edward Brooke(R-MA)
1984-1993: VP Edward Brooke(R-MA)/Gov. John Danforth(R-MO)
1993-2001: Gov. Bob Krueger(D-TX)/Sen. Howell Heflin(D-AL)
2001: Sen. Paul Tsongas(R-MA)/Gov. Julian Bond(R-GA)
2001-2009: VP Julian Bond(R-GA)/Sen. Ed Zschau(R-CA)
2009-2017: Sen. Rick Santorum(D-PA)/Gov. Mike McWherter(D-TN)
2017-2021: VP Mike McWherter(D-TN)/Sen. Bob Conley(D-SC)
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« Reply #128 on: August 09, 2017, 07:07:03 PM »

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
7. Andrew Jackson (Democratic, Tennessee) 1829 - 1837
8. Martin Van Buren (Democratic, New York) 1837 - 1841 *
9. William Henry Harrison (Whig, Ohio) 1841 - 1841
10. John Tyler (Whig–Independent, Virginia) 1841 - 1845
11. James Knox Polk (Democratic, Tennessee) 1845 - 1849 *
12. Zachary Taylor (Whig, Louisiana) 1849 - 1850 *,†
13. Charles Francis Adams (Free Soil–National Union, Massachusetts) 1850 - 1857
14. William Henry Seward (National, New York) 1857 - 1865
15. Oliver Perry Morton (National, Indiana) 1865 - 1869 *
16. Horatio Seymour (Democratic, New York) 1869 - 1873
17. Ulysses S. Grant (National, Ohio) 1873 - 1881 **
18. William Starke Rosecrans (Democratic, California) 1881 - 1885 *
19. James Gillespie Blaine (National, Maine) 1885 - 1889
20. Stephen Grover Cleveland (Democratic, New York) 1889 - 1897 *,**
21. Daniel Lindsay Russell (National, North Carolina) 1897 - 1905
22. Henry Cabot Lodge, Sr. (National, Massachusetts) 1905 - 1909
23. William Jennings Bryan (Democratic, Nebraska) 1909 - 1917
24. Charles Evans Hughes (National, New York) 1917 - 1921 *
25. William Gibbs McAdoo (Democratic, California) 1921 - 1929
26. John William Davis (Democratic, West Virginia) 1929 - 1933
27. Herbert Clark Hoover (National, California) 1933 - 1937
28. Lewis Wendell Wilkie (Progressive, Indiana) 1937 - 1944 *,†
29. Burton K. Wheeler (Progressive, Montana) 1944 - 1949 *
30. Douglas MacArthur (National, Arkansas) 1949 - 1957
31. Richard Milhous Nixon (National, California) 1957 - 1961
32. Hubert Humphrey (Progressive, Minnesota) 1961 - 1965
33. Richard Milhous Nixon (National, California) 1965 - 1969 *
34. Edmund Sixtus Muskie (Progressive, Maine) 1969 - 1977
35. Birch Evans Bayh II (Progressive, Indiana) 1977 - 1981
36. James Earl Carter (Democratic, Georgia) 1981 - 1985 *
37. Alexander Haig (National, Maryland) 1985 - 1993 *
38. Mario Matthew Cuomo, Jr. (Progressive, New York) 1993 - 2001 **
39. John Fitzgerald Kerry (Progressive, Massachusetts) 2001 - 2005 *
40. John Sidney McCain III (National, Arizona) 2005 - 2013 *
41. John Francis Kelly (National, Massachusetts) 2013 - 2017
42. Elizabeth Ann Warren (Progressive, Massachusetts) 2017 - incumbent *


† Died in office of natural causes
* Elected by the House of Representatives in absence of a popular vote majority
** Re-elected by the House of Representatives in absence of a popular vote majority

Notes
7 (Jackson). As president, supported the 13th Amendment to the Constitution providing for the election of the president and vice president by a nationwide popular vote. Opposed by Southern "Nullifiers," the amendment was ratified with the votes of the New England states, who believed it would increase their influence in national elections.

12 (Taylor). Then election of 1848 saw a three-way split in the popular vote between Zachary Taylor (a Whig), Lewis Cass (a Democrat), and former President Van Buren (nominee of the Free Soil Party). Under the terms of the 13th Amendment, the presidency would be decided by the House of Representatives; yet while the Democrats enjoyed a plurality in the lower house, they lacked the votes to elect Cass outright. Van Buren hoped to build an alliance between the Free Soil representatives and his old Democratic allies, but the Southern congressmen refused to cooperate, and residual antipathy towards Van Buren was strong enough among the Whigs to make a coalition of Free Soilers, Whigs, and Northern Democrats impossible. At last, a compromise was struck: the Free Soil representatives agreed to cast their votes for Taylor in the House, in exchange for Whig support for Charles Francis Adams (the party's vice presidential nominee) in the concurrent election ongoing in the Senate.

13 (C. Adams). When Taylor died in office less just over a year from his inauguration, Charles Francis Adams ascended to the presidency. His subsequent veto of the Fugitive Slave Act, his endorsement of the Wilmot Proviso, and his efforts to establish anti-slavery territorial governments in Utah and New Mexico drove the Southern states into rebellion a mere six months from his inauguration. The resulting American Civil War (1851 - 1856) would prove to be the most severe test the American Republic was ever to endure and nearly cost Adams his reelection in 1852, when he ran on a fusion ticket of Whigs, Free Soilers, and anti-slavery Democrats and against Democrat Stephen Douglas. In the post war order, this coalition would be reorganized as the National Party and successfully promoted the ratification of the 14th, 15th, and 16th amendments (abolishing slavery and extending full rights of citizenship to former slaves, at least on paper) under Adams' successors.

19 (Blaine). The last president to have served in the Civil War, Blaine's administrative corruption and opposition to civil service reform split the National Party in 1888, as reformist "Halfbreeds" bolted the convention to nominate George F. Edmunds on an Independent ticket. The resultant three-way split in the popular vote between Blaine, Edmunds, and Democrat Grover Cleveland threw the election to the House of Representatives, where Cleveland was chosen with the combined support of Democratic and Independent representatives.

35 (Carter). The landslide defeat of John W. Davis in 1932, followed by the defection of much of the party's Northern liberal wing to the Progressives over the course of Wendell Wilkie's seven years in office, had relegated the Democrats to minor party status for most of the ensuing three decades. Though the party remained competitive in the South and parts of the Southwest, the party had no serious chance of returning to Pennsylvania Avenue – that is, until Jimmy Carter's long-shot bid for the presidency upended the established political order and succeeded in throwing the election to the House for the first time in 16 years, while the Democrats gained more than 100 Congressional seats across the South and Midwest. Lacking the votes to elect their own candidate, the socially conservative Nationalist representatives threw their support to the Southern Baptist Carter, who thus became the first Democratic president in nearly 50 years. He chose not to seek reelection in 1984.
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« Reply #129 on: August 10, 2017, 10:42:11 AM »
« Edited: August 10, 2017, 03:25:30 PM by sentinel »

Continuing maps from my previous Alternate Presidents Post Here:
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=262501.msg5732988#msg5732988

1936



Theodore Roosevelt Jr. / William Bankhead (Bull Moose) - 280 EV; 51% PV
James A. Farley/Arthur Vandenberg (Democratic) - 251 EV; 47% PV
Other - 2% PV

1940



Theodore Roosevelt Jr. / William Bankhead (Bull Moose) - 375 EV; 57% PV
Robert A. Taft/Paul McNutt (Democratic) 156 EV; 42% PV
Other - 1% PV

1944



John W. Bricker / Richard Russell (Democratic Party) - 311 EV; 53% PV
William Bankhead/Henry Wallace (Bull Moose) - 220 EV; 47% PV

1948



John W. Bricker / Richard Russell (Democratic Party) - 278 EV; 55% PV
Estes Kefauver/W. Averell Harriman - 253 EV; 45% PV

1956



Hubert Humphrey/William Scranton (Bull Moose Party) - 311 EV; 50.3% PV
Richard Russell/Douglas MacArthur (Democratic) - 220 EV; 49.7% PV

1960



Hubert Humphrey/William Scranton (Bull Moose Party) - 377 EV; 58.9% PV
Douglas MacArthur/George Bender (Democratic) - 154 EV; 41.1% PV

1964



Hubert Humphrey/William Scranton (Bull Moose Party) - 324 EV; 53% PV
Stuart Symington/Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic) - 207 EV; 46% PV

1968



Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr./Pat Brown (Democratic Party) - 387 EV; 56% PV
William Scranton/Gerald Ford (Bull Moose) - 151 EV; 43% PV

1972



Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr./Pat Brown (Democratic Party) - 463 EV; 60% PV
Eugene McCarthy/Dan Moore (Bull Moose) - 75 EV; 39% PV

1976



Christopher "Kit" Bond/Frank Church (Democratic Party) - 271 EV; 48.7% PV
Daniel P. Moynihan/Birch Bayh (Bull Moose) - 267 EV; 49.1% PV

1980



Daniel P. Moynihan/Birch Bayh (Bull Moose) - 312 EV; 50.7% PV
Christopher "Kit" Bond/Frank Church (Democratic Party) - 226 EV; 48.6% PV

1984



Mo Udall/John Connally (Bull Moose Party) - 367 EV; 52.6% PV
Lowell Weicker/John Anderson (Democratic) - 171 EV; 46.4% PV

1988



Christopher "Kit" Bond/Lamar Alexander (Democratic Party) - 287 EV; 50.7%
Mo Udall/John Connally (Bull Moose Party) - 251 EV; 49% PV

1992



Christopher "Kit" Bond/Lamar Alexander (Democratic Party) - 276 EV; 49.1% PV
Jerry Brown / Alexander Haig(Bull Moose Party) - 262 EV; 46.3%
Other - 4.6% PV

1996

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« Reply #130 on: August 12, 2017, 09:31:51 AM »

I had a dream last night that involved many things, but one feature was that someone had had the genius idea of making a Pence/Cheney timeline, which dream me found funny owing to the irony of Cheney being billed by the media as the smart, sensible realist behind the throne. Now, the real joy of such a timeline would lie not in the list of presidents, but in the series of events, but this is all I have to give you for the time being.

A Reformer with Results
42. William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat-Arkansas)/Albert Arnold Gore, Jr. (Democrat-Tennessee) January 20th, 1993-January 20th, 1997
43. Michael Richard Pence (Republican-Indiana)/Richard Bruce Cheney (Republican-Wyoming) January 20th, 1997-January 20th, 2005
44. Rudolph William Louis Giuliani (Republican-New York)/Richard John Santorum (Republican-Pennsylvania) January 20th, 2005-January 20th, 2017

45. James Henry Webb, Jr./Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. (Democrat-Illinois) January 20th, 2009-January 20th, 2017
46. Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. (Democrat-Illinois)/Steven Clark Bulock January 20th, 2017-January 20th, 2021

47. Jon Meade Huntsman, Jr. (Republican-Utah)/Mark Whitty Everson (Republican-New York) January 20th, 2021-Present

The point of divergence rests with Pence winning his first run for Congress in 1988. As in real life, he quickly ascended the ranks of the national Congressional leadership despite lacking notable legislative success. Come the 1994 "Republican Revolution", Pence is positioned as a champion of "conservative reform", making headlines with the likes of Speaker Newt Gingrich and Budget Chairman John Kasich. With his major House colleagues declining a run for higher office, and sensing an opportunity in a weak field where the only heavyweight as Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole, Pence threw his hat in the ring. His surprise second place finish in Iowa brought him significant momentum, and he managed to displace the frontrunner Dole first in the South, and then in the Mid-West. Incredibly young for a presidential candidate, Pence was encouraged by those in his campaign to select for Vice President someone who would grant an air of stability to the ticket. Surveying his options, he declined opportunities to betray his staunch conservative base through selecting Bill Weld or Pete Wilson. Instead, to supplement his complete lack of foreign policy experience and to cloak his campaign in an air of realism and sensibility, he selected former Secretary of Defense Richard Bruce "Dick" Cheney of Wyoming. Cheney's heavy insider credentials, which could be traced back to the Nixon White House, contrasted with Pence's own relative inexperience. Nevertheless, the rather quiet Cheney managed to avoid overshadowing the young nominee. In an incredibly close campaign marked by an energetic opposition nominee and an array of "dirty tricks", the Pence campaign managed to push their man over the finish line.

Pence, suddenly saddled with experience beyond his reckoning, would lean heavily on those around him in his first few months in office. Newt Gingrich, for example, essentially took over the nation's legislative agenda. Meanwhile, foreign policy veteran Cheney played a significant role in the selection of Donald Rumsfeld as Secretary of State. National hero Colin Powell, meanwhile, was easily confirmed as Secretary of Defense. Powell would find himself overriden by the Cheney-Rumsfeld team as the United States inserted itself into turmoil in the Balkans while attempting to take to task Saddam Hussein for violation of United Nations resolutions. This eventually led to the military operation to topple Hussein in 1999 and the resulting "Second Gulf War". Nevertheless, Pence's narrow re-election over former Vice President Gore was built on the backs "culture war" slogans even as an array of paleoconservative third parties attempted to undermine the interventionist president.

The September 11th, 2001 attacks which brought Rudy Giulaini national fame served to undermine President Pence's credibility on national security issues. Nevertheless, with Pence's fiery oratory following the attacks, he managed to reaffirm support in his effort to take "terrorism and its shadowy backers" to task. The bursting of the "dot-com" bubble was meanwhile counteracted through an array of middle class tax cuts meant to boost consumer spending. In 2004, with the nation experiencing moderate growth and having yet to grow weary of foreign adventurism, Rudy Giuliani managed to win election against Howard Dean in a campaign that hinged far more on foreign policy than on economic or social issues--something that aided Dean in the Midwest, making him the first Democrat to capture Wisconsin since 1992, for example. Nevertheless, support for Republicans in the suburbs of Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, and Virginia kept Republicans in power. Nevertheless, the Democrats saw crucial Congressional gains in an election that took attention away from issues such as gay marriage and guns.

It was only after Giuliani's inauguration that the bubble of the last eight years popped. Support for American presence in Iraq collapsed, as did belief in "nation-building". Even as Dick Cheney, the outgoing Vice President, was confirmed as Secretary of State, the national coalition needed to maintain the popularity of his international program was dying.  Meanwhile, growth slowed at home, and a substantial sub-culture built on resisting Giuliani's perceived "police state"--including his unveiling of new surveillance powers in 2005--became mainstream. In 2006, Democratic gains combined to produce majorities in both houses of Congress. By late 2007, Giuliani was facing opposition not only from without, but from his own party. While Lincoln Chafee and Ron Paul would both attempt to challenge the incumbent President, it was in the end Chuck Hagel who stood the best chance. A former member of the armed services, to Giuliani's right on abortion, guns, and immigration, and to his left on foreign policy, Hagel was well-positioned, coming incredibly close in the Iowa Caucuses and seeing surprising support in New Hampshire--the very state to sustain Giuliani's primary campaign four years earlier. Nevertheless, despite victory in the Nevada Caucuses and in a number of other Western states, the Nebraska Senator could not overcome the advantages of incumbency and support from the entire party apparatus. The Democratic primaries, meanwhile, saw two relative newcomers to the national stage fight for the soul of the party, with Jim Webb narrowly overcoming Barack Obama. Selecting Obama as his Vice President, the Democrats united for the general election just as the Republicans were coming apart. Webb benefited from many of the advantages that Hagel had never fully realized; a veteran of the Vietnam War and a former Naval Secretary for President Reagan, he also channeled a rugged, rural, and masculine persona that appealed to a recession-stricken middle America at a time when they were being led by what one activist called "a plutocratic statist from the metropol." On the debate stage, the two could not be more different, even as they both attempted to leverage their histories of "toughness". On November 4th, America made its choice.
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« Reply #131 on: August 12, 2017, 06:23:52 PM »

Clinton is nominee in '88 and loses

Presidents
41. George H. W. Bush (R, Texas) 1989 - 1993
42. Paul Tsongas (D, Massachusetts) 1993 - 1997
43. Orrin Hatch (R, Utah) 1997 - 2005
44. Howard Dean (D, Vermont) 2005 - 2009
45. Jeb Bush (R, Florida) 2009 - 2013
46. Barack Obama (D, Illinois) 2013 - Present

Vice Presidents
44. Dan Quayle (R, Indiana) 1989 - 1993
45. Tom Harkin (D, Iowa) 1993 - 1997
46. John Kasich (R, Ohio) 1997 - 2005
47. Evan Bayh (D, Indiana) 2005 - 2009
48. George Allen (R, Virginia) 2009 - 2013
49. Brian Schweitzer (D, Montana) 2013 - Present
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« Reply #132 on: August 12, 2017, 11:54:25 PM »

A New Democrat for President in 1988:

Presidents of the United States:

41. Al Gore (Democratic)Sad 1989-1997
42. John McCain (Republican)Sad 1997-2005
43. John Edwards (Democratic)Sad 2005-2009
44. Mike Huckabee (Republican)Sad 2009-2013
45. Joe Biden (Democratic)Sad 2013-Incumbent

Vice Presidents of the United States:
44. Paul Tsongas (Democratic)Sad 1989-1997
45. Dick Lugar (Republican)Sad 1997-2005
46. Tom Daschle (Democratic)Sad 2005-2009
47. Mitt Romney (Republican)Sad 2009-2013
48. Russ Feingold (Republican)Sad 2013-Incumbent

Defeated Tickets:

1988: George Bush / Dan Quayle (Republican)
1992: Bob Dole / Carroll Campbell (Republican)
1996: Bill Clinton / Dick Gephardt (Democratic)
2000: Paul Wellstone / Bob Graham (Democratic)
2004: Dick Lugar / George Pataki (Republican)
2008: John Edwards / Tom Daschle (Democratic)
2012: Mike Huckabee / Mitt Romney (Republican)
2016: Bobby Jindal / Norm Coleman (Republican)







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« Reply #133 on: August 14, 2017, 03:26:46 PM »

PRESIDENTS of the CONFEDERATE STATES OF AMERICA
–. Jefferson Finis Davis (No Party, Mississippi) 1861 - 1861
–. Alexander Hamilton Stevens (Whig, Georgia) 1861 - 1862 ^
1. Louis Trezevant Wigfall (Democratic, Texas) 1862 - 1864 *
2. William Smith (Conservative Democratic, Virginia) 1864 - 1865 ˚

† Killed by friendly fire at the First Battle of Manassas
^ Lost reelection
* Impeached and removed from office
˚ Arrested by federal troops following the surrender of the Confederacy
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« Reply #134 on: August 14, 2017, 11:16:35 PM »

42. Bill Clinton, D-Ark. (1993-1998)
43. Al Gore, D-Tenn. (1998-2005)
44. Jeb Bush, R-Fla. (2005-2009)
45. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y. (2009-2013)
46. Mike Huckabee, R-Ark. (2013)
47. Marco Rubio, R-Fla. (2013-2017)
48. Barack Obama, D-Ill. (2017-present)
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« Reply #135 on: August 15, 2017, 11:55:57 PM »

"Read My Lips. I won a Second Term:"

41. George HW Bush | Dan Quayle (Republican)Sad 1989-1997
42. Dick Gephardt | Ann Richards (Democratic)Sad 1997-2005
43. Jeb Bush | Jon Kyl (Republican)Sad 2005-2013
44. Mark Warner | Barack Obama (Democratic)Sad 2013-2021
45. Barack Obama | Martin Heinrich (Democratic): 2021-Incumbent

Defeated Tickets:
1988: Michael Dukakis | Lloyd Bentsen (Democratic)
1992: Jerry Brown | Paul Tsongas (Democratic), Ross Perot | James Stockdale (Independent)
1996: Bob Dole | Jack Kemp (Republican)
2000: Dan Quayle | Tom Ridge (Republican)
2004: Joe Liebermann | Howard Dean (Democratic)
2008: Howard Dean | Ted Strickland (Democratic)
2012: John Huntsman | Eric Cantor (Republican)
2016: Mitch Daniels | Jeff Flake (Republican)
2020: Ted Cruz | John Kasich (Republican)
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« Reply #136 on: August 16, 2017, 12:00:12 AM »

What did we do to deserve a President named "Gephardt." Ugh. A fine guy but his name... FF, HN.
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« Reply #137 on: August 16, 2017, 11:11:24 AM »

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
38. Gerald R. Ford (Republican, Michigan) 1974 - 1981
39. Birch Bayh (Democratic, Indiana) 1981 - 1989
40. Joseph R. Biden (Democratic, Delaware) 1989 - 1993
41. Robert J. Dole (Republican, Kansas) 1993 - 2001
42. Dorothy A. Richards (Democratic, Texas) 2001 - 2009
43. Mitchell E. Daniels (Republican, Indiana) 2009 - 2017
44. W. Mitt Romney (Republican, Massachusetts) 2017 - 2021
45. Jeffrey A. Merkley (Democratic, Oregon) 2021 - incumbent

. . .

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
38. Gerald R. Ford (Republican, Michigan) 1974 - 1977 ^
39. James E. Carter (Democratic, Georgia) 1977 - 1981 ^
40. Ronald W. Reagan (Republican, California) 1981 - 1981 ˚
41. Gerald R. Ford (Republican, Michigan) 1981 - 1985
42. George H. W. Bush (Republican, Texas) 1985 - 1989 ^
43. Edward M. Kennedy (Democratic, Massachusetts) 1989 - 1997
44. Stephen Goldsmith (Republican, Indiana) 1997 - 2005
45. John F. Kerry (Democratic, Massachusetts) 2005 - 2009 ^
46. John S. McCain (Republican, Arizona) 2009 - 2010
47. Lisa A. Murkowski (Republican, Alaska) 2010 - 2017
48. Barack H. Obama (Democratic, Illinois) 2017 - incumbent

˚ Assassinated     ^ Lost reelection     † Died in office of natural causes
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« Reply #138 on: August 16, 2017, 12:33:14 PM »

1960 - Richard Nixon (276) v John F Kennedy(261)

1964 - Richard Nixon (370) v Hubert Humphrey (168)

1968 - Eugene McCarthy (271) v George Romney (189) v George Wallace (78)

1972 - Eugene McCarthy (339) v John Ashbrook (198)

1976 - Ronald Reagan (411) v George McGovern (127)

1980 - Ronald Reagan (475) v Jimmy Carter (63)

1984 - Robert Kennedy (274) v John Anderson (264)

1988 - Robert Kennedy (338) v Bob Dole (200)

1992 - Al Gore (284) v Jack Kemp (254)

1996 - Ross Perot (299) v Al Gore (239)

2000 - Donald Trump (343) v George W. Bush (194)

2004 - Donald Trump (325) v John McCain 212)


2008 - Ron Paul (352) v Hillary Clinton (186)

2012 - Ron Paul (278) v Barack Obama (260)

2016 - Bernie Sanders (312) v Ted Cruz (226)
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« Reply #139 on: August 16, 2017, 12:57:57 PM »

26. Theodore Roosevelt (Republican-N.Y.) 1901-1913
27. Champ Clark (Democratic-Mo.) 1913-1917
28. Theodore Roosevelt (Republican-N.Y.) 1917-1919
29. Hiram Johnson (Republican-Calif.) 1919-1921
30. Warren G. Harding (Liberal-Ohio) 1921-1923
31. Calvin Coolidge (Liberal-Mass.) 1923-1929
32. Herbert Hoover (Liberal-Calif.) 1929-1933
33. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Republican-N.Y.) 1933-1946
34. Henry A. Wallace (Republican-Iowa) 1946-1949
35. Harry S Truman (Democratic-Mo.) 1949-1953
36. Earl Warren (Liberal-Calif.) 1953-1961
37. Barry Goldwater (Liberal-Ariz.) 1961-1964
38. John F. Kennedy (Republican-Mass.) 1964-1967
39. Hubert H. Humphrey (Republican-Minn.) 1967-1969
40. Richard M. Nixon (Liberal-Calif.) 1969-1974R
41. Gerald R. Ford (Liberal-Mich.) 1974-1977
42. Jimmy Carter (Democratic-Ga.) 1977-1981
43. Ronald Reagan (Liberal-Calif.) 1981-1989
44. George H. W. Bush (Liberal-Texas) 1989-1993
45. Bill Clinton (Democratic-Ark.) 1993-2001
46. Al Gore (Democratic-Tenn.) 2001-2005
47. George W. Bush (Liberal-Texas) 2005-2009
48. Barack Obama (Republican-Ill.) 2009-2017
49. Hillary Rodham Clinton (Republican-N.Y.) 2017
50. Julián Castro (Republican-Texas) 2017-present
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« Reply #140 on: August 16, 2017, 02:10:02 PM »

38. Gerald Ford (R-MI) / Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) 1974-1977
39. Ronald Reagan (R-CA) / Robert Schweiker (R-PA) 1977-1981

40. Edward Kennedy (D-MA) / Terry Sanford (D-NC) 1981-1989
41. Terry Sanford (D-NC) / Tom Harkin (D-IA) 1989-1993

42. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) / Arlen Spector (R-PA) 1993-1997
43. Howard Dean (D-VT) / Richard Gephardt (D-MO) 1997-2005
44. John McCain (R-AZ) / Rudy Giuliani (R-NY) 2005-2009
45. Russ Feingold (D-WI) / Mark Warner (D-VA) 2009-2017
46. Mitt Romney (R-MA) / Meg Whitman (R-CA)  2017-
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« Reply #141 on: August 17, 2017, 05:21:12 AM »
« Edited: August 17, 2017, 05:22:56 AM by DKrol »

I may be going to be turning this into a TL down the road. Do you guys want to take a guess as to what leads to this list of Presidents occurring? I've left asterisks and notations to hint to you when important events or things worth noting take place. If I don't go ahead with the TL, I'll fill you in on the footnotes.

1. George Washington (Non-Affiliated-VA) 1789-1797 *
2. Patrick Henry (Anti-Federalist-VA) 1797-1799 **
3. Thomas Jefferson (Democratic Republican-VA) 1799-1805
4. James Madison (Democratic Republican-VA) 1805-1809

5. Charles C. Pinckney (Federalist-SC) 1809-1817
6. Daniel D. Tompkins (Federalist-NY) 1817-1825

7. Henry Clay (Democratic Republican-KY) 1825-1829
8. Andrew Jackson (Democratic Republican
/Whig-TN) 1829-1841 ***
9. Willie Person Mangum (Whig-NC) 1841-1849
10. Zachary Taylor (Whig-LA) 1849-1851
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11. Daniel Webster (Whig-MA) 1851-1853
12. William Marcy (Democrat-NY) 1853-1857
13. James Buchanan (Democrat-PA) 1857-1861
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14. Jefferson Davis (Democrat/National Unity-MS) 1861-1873 ++
15. Robert E. Lee (National Unity/National-VA) 1873-1877 +++
16. James D. Porter (National-TN) 1877-1885
17. Joseph Wheeler (National-AL) 1885-1889

18. Benjamin Harrison (Popular-IN) 1889-1897 ++++
19. William McKinley (Popular-OH) 1897-1905 #
20. Williams Jennings Bryan (Popular-NE) 1905-1909 ##
21. William Howard Taft (Justice-OH) 1909-1917 ###
22. Champ Clark (Justice-MO) 1917-1921
23. Leonard Wood (Republican-NH) 1921-1927 ####
24. Frank Orren Lowden (Republican-IL) 1927-1937
25. Strom Thurmond (National-SC) 1937-1941
26. Harry S. Truman (Popular-MO) 1941-1949 ^
27. Douglas MacArthur (Republican-NY) 1949-1957 ^^
28. Dwight D. Eisenhower (Non-Affiliated-PA) 1957-1961 ^^^
29. John S. McCain, Jr. (Non-Affiliated-IA) 1961-1969
30. George W. Romney (Republican-MI) 1969-1973
31. Al Haig (Non-Affiliated-PA) 1973-1985 ^^^^
32. John Glenn (Non-Affiliated-OH) 1985-1990 ~
33. Bob Dole (Non-Affiliated-KS) 1990-1995
34. James Stockdale (Non-Affiliated-CA) 1995-1998 ~~
- Robert Byrd (Democrat-WV) 1998-2000
36. Colin Powell (Non-Affiliated-VA) 2000-2005
37. John S. McCain, III (Non-Affiliated-AZ) 2005-2010
38. Mitt Romney (Non-Affiliated-MI) 2010-2015
39. Donald Trump (Non-Affiliated-NY) 2015-2017 ~~~
- Orrin Hatch (Conservative-UT) 2017-2020 ~~~~
40. Joe Heck (Non-Affiliated-NV) 2020-2025
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« Reply #142 on: August 17, 2017, 07:55:26 AM »

1961-1963: John F. Kennedy/Stuart Symington
1963-1965: Stuart Symington/vacant
1965-1969: Stuart Symington/Allan Shivers(D)
1969-1977: Nelson Rockefeller/George Christopher(R)
1977-1981: Scoop Jackson/Sam Yorty(D)
1981: Ronald Reagan/Lowell Weicker(R)
1981-1989: Lowell Weicker/Larry Pressler(R)
1989-1997: Reubin Askew/Jerry Brown(D)
1997-2002: Howard Baker/Lincoln Chafee(R)
2002-2005: Lincoln Chafee/J. C. Watts(R)
2005-2009: Wesley Clark/John Edwards(D)
2009-2017: George Pataki/Condoleezza Rice(R)
2017-: Condoleezza Rice/Mitch Daniels(R)
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« Reply #143 on: August 23, 2017, 08:38:20 AM »

1993-2001: Sam Nunn/Terry Sanford(D)
2001-2003: George W. Bush/George Pataki(R)
2003-2009: George Pataki/Condi Rice(R)
2009-2017: Barack Obama/Evan Bayh(D)
2017-2021: Evan Bayh/Walter B. Jones Jr.(D)
2021: Sen. Christine Todd Whitman/Gov. Elise Stefanik(R)
2021-2029: VP Elise Stefanik/U. N. Ambassador Richard Grenell(R)
2029-2033: Gov. Richard Tisei/Sen. Mia Love(R)
2033-2041: Sen. Catherine Cuellar-Vasquez(D-TX)/Gov. Adlai Stevenson V(D-IL)
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« Reply #144 on: August 25, 2017, 02:08:46 AM »

Modern Presidents of the Republic of Texas
Note: Presidents elected for a single six-year term

27. Ralph Webster Yarborough (Labor) 1960-1966
28. Lyndon Baines Johnson (Labor) 1966-1970*
29. Lloyd Millard Bentsen, Jr. (Labor) 1970-1972**
30. Barbara Ruth Wright Staff (Conservative) 1972-1978
31. James Jarrell Pickle (Labor) 1978-1984
32. William Philip Gramm (Conservative) 1984-1990
33. Kay Bailey Hutchinson (Conservative) 1990-1996
34. Henry Ross Perot (Reform) 1996-2002
35. Carole Keeton Strayhorn (Reform) 2002-2008
36. Gregory Wayne Abbott (Conservative) 2008-2014
37. Rafael Edward Cruz (Conservative) 2014-2020***
38. Robert Francis "Beto" O'Rourke (Labor) 2020-2026
39. William Ballard Hurd (Conservative) 2026-2032
40. Joaquin Castro (Labor) 2032-2038

*-Died in office
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« Reply #145 on: August 25, 2017, 01:23:19 PM »
« Edited: August 25, 2017, 01:25:31 PM by sentinel »

2020



President Donald J. Trump (R-NY) / Vice Pres. Mike Pence (R-IN) - 198 EV, 30% PV
Fmr. Secretary Julian Castro (D-TX) / Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) - 340 EV, 36% PV
Fmr. Gov. John Kasich (I-OH) / Fmr. Gov John Hickenlooper (I-CO) 0 EV, 28% PV
Fmr. Gov Bill Weld (L-MA) / Whoever (L-MN) - 0 EV, 5% PV
Green Party Generic - 0 EV, 0.5% PV

Was messing with a spreadsheet. Had Trump hold 65% of his 2016 vote, Castro held 75% of Clinton, Weld got a 105% increase over Johnson performance, Green Party dropped by 50% and the remainder when to the independent ticket.

Kasich/Hickenlooper best states in this scenario:
Idaho - 34%
Vermont, Wyoming - 32%
Arkansas, Alabama - 31%

Worst:
New Mexico - 23%
Maine 1st, Maine-at-large, DC - 26%
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« Reply #146 on: August 25, 2017, 06:23:11 PM »

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
20. Winfield Scott Hancock (Democratic, Pennsylvania) 1881 - 1886
21. William Hayden English (Democratic, Indiana) 1886 - 1889
22. Stephen Grover Cleveland (Democratic, New York) 1889 - 1893
23. John Sherman (Republican, Ohio) 1893 - 1897
24. William Jennings Bryan (Democratic, Nebraska) 1897 - 1901
25. Levi Parsons Morton (Republican, New York) 1901 - 1905
26. William Jennings Bryan (Democratic, Nebraska) 1905 - 1909
27. Charles Evans Hughes, Sr. (Republican, New York) 1909 - 1917
28. John Wingate Weeks (Republican, Massachusetts) 1917 - 1921
29. James Middleton Cox (Democratic, Ohio) 1921 - 1929
30. Charles Wayland Bryan (Democratic, Nebraska) 1929 - 1933
31. Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican, California) 1933 - 1941
32. Alfred Mossman Landon (Republican, Kansas) 1941 - 1949
33. Carey Estes Kefauver (Democratic, Tennessee) 1949 - 1953
34. Douglas MacArthur (Republican, Arkansas) 1953 - 1955 *
—. Samuel Taliaferro Rayburn (Democratic, Texas) 1955 - 1957 ˚
35. Adlai Ewing Stevenson II (Democratic, Illinois) 1957 - 1961
36. Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller (Republican, New York) 1961 - 1969
37. George Wilcken Romney (Republican, Michigan) 1969 - 1977
38. Frank Forrester Church III (Democratic, Idaho) 1977 - 1984
39. John Herschel Glenn, Jr. (Democratic, Ohio) 1984 - 1985
40. George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican, Connecticut) 1985 - 1989
41. Mario Matthew Cuomo (Democratic, New York) 1989 - 1993
42. Richard Green Lugar (Republican, Indiana) 1993 - 2001
43. Albert Arnold Gore, Jr. (Democratic, Tennessee) 2001 - 2009
44. John Sidney McCain III (Republican, Arizona) 2009 - 2011
45. Willard Mitt Romney (Republican, Massachusetts) 2011 - 2017
46. John Wright Hickenlooper, Jr. (Democratic, Colorado) 2017 - incumbent

† Died in office of natural causes     * Impeached and removed from office     ˚ Acting President
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« Reply #147 on: August 29, 2017, 12:29:39 AM »

Presidents and Vice Presidents of the United States

1961-1963: John F. Kennedy (D-MA) † / Lyndon Johnson (D-TX)
1963-1969: Lyndon Johnson (D-TX) / Vacant 1963-1965 / Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) 1965-1969
1969-1974: Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) † / Edmund Muskie (D-ME)
1974-1977: Edmund Muskie (D-ME) / Frank Church (D-ID)
1977-1985: George H.W. Bush (R-TX) / Gerald Ford (R-MI)
1985-1989: Gerald Ford (R-MI) / William Gramm (R-TX)
1989-1993: Edward Kennedy (D-MA) / Robert Casey (D-PA)
1993-2001: William Gramm (R-TX) / Newt Gingrich (R-GA)
2001-2005: Newt Gingrich (R-GA) / John McCain (R-AZ)
2005-2009: William Clinton (D-AR) / Russell Feingold (D-WI)
2009-2013: Willard Romney (R-MA) / Bill Frist (R-TN)
2013-Present: Russell Feingold (D-WI) / Richard Durbin (D-IL)

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« Reply #148 on: August 29, 2017, 10:47:09 PM »

35. John F. Kennedy (D-Mass), 1961-1968
36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-Texas), 1968-1973
37. Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY), 1973-1981
38. Ronald Reagan (R-Calif), 1981-1989
39. Michael Dukakis (D-Mass), 1989-1997
40. Al Gore (D-Tenn), 1997-2002
41. Bill Clinton (D-Ark), 2002-2009
42. Tommy Thompson (R-Wisc), 2009-2013
43. Tammy Baldwin (D-Wisc), 2013-present
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« Reply #149 on: August 31, 2017, 04:40:35 PM »
« Edited: August 31, 2017, 10:58:15 PM by Prime Minister Truman »

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES (First Republic, 1788 - 1806)
1. George Washington (Independent, Virginia) 1789 - 1793
2. John Adams (Federalist, Massachusetts) 1793 - 1797 *
3. Thomas Jefferson (Republican, Virginia) 1797 - 1801 *
4. Alexander Hamilton (Federalist, New York) 1801 - 1806 ˚

* Defeated for reelection          ˚ Named First Citizen of the United States under the Constitution of 1806




FIRST CITIZENS of the UNITED STATES (First Empire, 1806 - 1830)
Alexander I      1806 - 1824 †
Alexander II     1824 - 1830 *

† Died of natural causes          * Deposed by the Revolution of 1830

PRIME MINISTERS of the UNITED STATES (First Empire, 1806 - 1830)
1. Timothy Pickering (Hamiltonian, Massachusetts) 1806 - 1807
2. Charles Cotesworth Pinckney (Hamiltonian, South Carolina) 1807 - 1809
–. Timothy Pickering (Hamiltonian, Massachusetts) 1809 - 1815
3. DeWitt Clinton (Liberal Hamiltonian, New York) 1815 - 1817
4. Jared Ingersoll (Hamiltonian, Pennsylvania) 1817 - 1818
5. John Lowell, Jr. (Hamiltonian, Massachusetts) 1818 - 1820
6. Daniel Webster (Hamiltonian, Massachusetts) 1820 - 1821
7. John Marshall (Independent Hamiltonian, Virginia) 1821 - 1824
–. Daniel Webster (Hamiltonian Whig, Massachusetts) 1824 - 1826
8. John Caldwell Calhoun (Conservative, South Carolina) 1826 - 1827
9. John Tyler (Conservative, Virginia) 1827 - 1830
–. Daniel Webster (Whig, Massachusetts) 1830 - 1830




PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES (Restoration, 1830 - 1848)
5. William Henry Harrison (Whig, Virginia) 1830 - 1836
6. Winfield Scott (Conservative Whig, Virginia) 1836 - 1848 *

* Deposed by the Revolution of 1848

PRIME MINISTERS of the UNITED STATES (Restoration, 1830 - 1848)
–. Daniel Webster (Whig, Massachusetts) 1830 - 1834
10. Henry Clay (Whig, Kentucky) 1834 - 1836
11. John Jordan Crittenden (Whig, Kentucky) 1836 - 1838
12. John Bell (Conservative Whig, Tennessee) 1838 - 1842
–. Henry Clay (Whig, Kentucky) 1842 - 1844
13. Millard Fillmore (Conservative Whig, New York) 1844 - 1848 *

* Deposed by the Revolution of 1848




PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES (Second Republic, 1848 - 1852)
7. Charles Francis Adams (Liberal Republican, Massachusetts) 1848 - 1848 ª
8. Robert Edward Lee (Independent, Virginia) 1848 - 1852 ˚

ª Appointed by the provisional government          ˚ Named First Citizen of the United States after the Coup of 1852

PRIME MINISTERS of the UNITED STATES (Second Republic, 1848 - 1852)
–. Henry Clay (Independent, Kentucky) 1848 - 1848 ª
14. Jefferson Finis Davis (Legitimist, Mississippi) 1848 - 1849
15. Sam Houston (Independent, Texas) 1849 - 1849
16. Edward Everett (Moderate, Massachusetts) 1849 - 1850
17. Henry Alexander Wise (Legitmist, Virginia) 1850 - 1851
18. Christopher Gustavus Memminger (Legitimist, South Carolina) 1851 - 1852

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