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« Reply #850 on: October 26, 2019, 02:36:14 AM »

2016 - If Hillary Clinton Won

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton defeats Donald Trump narrowly on Election Night, keeping Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan in the Democratic column by under 2%.

45 - President Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
January 20, 2017 - January 20, 2021


President Clinton breaks the ultimate glass ceiling, but her agenda is stymied by constant investigations by House Republicans which lead nowhere but eat up a lot of news coverage.

Democrats do not lose the 2018 midterms as badly as 2010, but they lose a few seats - the blow cushioned from voters' reluctance to back what is seen as a leaderless GOP, unless you count Mitch McConnell, who people don't like.

Despite a lackluster midterm performance for the GOP, former Governor John Kasich defeats President Clinton by a respectable margin amid a slowing economy in 2020, and is re-elected with a narrow majority in 2024, defeating Senator Kamala Harris. Though the Clinton years aren't regarded as horrible, little gets done and voters became tired after twelve years of Democrats in the White House.

46 - President John Kasich (R-OH)
January 20, 2021 - January 20, 2029


President Kasich governs as a centrist conservative, largely downplaying social issues while focusing on the economy and immigration reform, emphasizing what he sees as a need for bipartisanship. The GOP as a whole is still struggling to find its identity, leading to Democrats winning big in the 2022 and 2026 midterms.

Kasich is generally regarded positively, with his approval rating never dipping below 45% during his first six years in office. However, the economy is in recession by his last year in office, and Vice President Marco Rubio loses in a landslide to Senator Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who rises to prominence in 2022 in this timeline.

47 - President Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY)
January 20, 2029 - January 20, 2037


President Ocasio-Cortez reverses Kasich's tax cuts during her first hundred days. Large Democratic Congressional majorities pass Medicare for All in 2030, and most U.S. troops have left the middle east by the end of her Presidency over the course of several years in a planned exit discussed and agreed to by allies.

After Ocasio-Cortez is easily re-elected over Senator Tom Cotton in 2032, Congress passes a student loan relief bill in 2033 and raises the federal minimum wage to $22/hr in 2034. Ocasio-Cortez is a popular President who seldom has approvals below 50%. Clinton was the last hurrah for 90s-style centrism, as Ocasio-Cortez moves the party more firmly towards democratic socialism.
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« Reply #851 on: October 27, 2019, 09:13:44 AM »

In 2000, Al Gore is declared the winner of Florida, and therefore wins the Presidency of the United States. Where does the country go from there?

43. Albert Gore (D-Tennessee), 2001-2009

The 45th Vice President of the United States became President right after his 8 years as VP. Gore's presidency is noted for the handling of the response to the 9/11 attacks as well as the decision not to invade Iraq despite critics from the Senate including newly elected Senator George W. Bush (R-Texas). Many analysts say that Gore would not have won re-election in 2004 if it weren't for 9/11.

44. Mitt Romney (R-Massachusetts), 2009-2013

The former Governor of Massachusetts threw his hat into the ring in 2008 to un-sit a Democrat after 16 years of Democratic White House control. Romney's presidency is regarded as weak and ineffective. Romney did not run for re-election in 2012 after citing weak support from his own party.

45. John McCain (R-Arizona), 2013-2018

Senator John McCain was elected in 2012, and was re-elected in 2016. McCain was a very good President, but passed away in 2018 from brain cancer.

46. George Pataki (R-New York), 2018-2021

Pataki was McCain's Vice President and did nothing.

47. Hillary Clinton (R-New York), 2021-present

Mrs. Clinton was elected in 2021, and is currently serving.
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« Reply #852 on: October 27, 2019, 10:25:18 PM »

Well, that's how the cookie crumbles
George H.W. Bush 1989-1997
Al Gore 1997-2005
Jeb Bush 2005-2009
John Kerry 2009-2017
Barack Obama 2017-present

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« Reply #853 on: October 30, 2019, 09:13:03 PM »

A Twist in the Presidency:

43. Donald Trump / Dennis Kucinich (Reform): 2001-2005
44. John McCain / Fred Thompson (Republican): 2005-2009
45. Hillary Clinton / Evan Bayh (Democratic): 2009-2017
46. George W. Bush / Marco Rubio (Republican): 2017-Incumbent


Defeated Tickets:

2000: Al Gore / Joe Lieberman (Democratic), Jeb Bush* / Tom Ridge (Republican)
2004: John Kerry / Dick Gephardt (Democratic), Donald Trump / Dennis Kucinich (Reform)
2008: John McCain / Fred Thompson (Republican) Dennis Kucinich / Ron Paul (Reform)
2012: Fred Thompson / Tim Pawlenty (Republican)
2016: Evan Bayh / Cory Booker (Democratic)

*= Gets elected Governor of Florida in 1994, while George W. Loses to Ann Richards that year. Jeb gets the nomination in 2000, loses the general election, and finishes out his second and final term as Governor in 2003. George W. stays in Baseball until 1998 when he's elected Governor of Texas. He is re elected in 2002 and 2006 and is elected Senator in 2012 and stays there until he's sworn in as President in January 2017.
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« Reply #854 on: November 05, 2019, 02:27:03 PM »
« Edited: November 05, 2019, 02:30:32 PM by Elizabeth Warren 2020 »

Johnson as Truman (again)

36. Lyndon B. Johnson/vacant 1963-1965, Hubert Humphrey 1965-1973
37. Alexander Haig/Bob Packwood 1973-1981
38. Patrick Leahy/Mike Mansfield 1981-1983
39. Mike Mansfield/vacant 1983, Dale Bumpers 1983-1989
40. Bob Packwood/Bill Clements 1989-1993, Newt Gingrich 1993-1994
41. Newt Gingrich/vacant 1994, Jim Thompson 1994-1997
42. Evan Bayh/John Kerry 1997-2001
43. Fred Thompson/Dick Cheney 2001-2009
44. Dick Cheney/Rick Santorum 2009-2013
45. Andrew Cuomo/Bob Casey 2013-2021
46. Liz Cheney/Jon Huntsman 2021-2029

Losing Tickets

1968: Barry Goldwater/Ronald Reagan
1972: Patrick Lucey/Ernest Hollings
1976: Patrick Lucey/Frank Church
1980: Bob Packwood/George Romney
1984: Paul Laxalt/George H.W. Bush
1988: Dale Bumpers/John Glenn
1992: Jerry Brown/Joe Biden/Jesse Jackson
1996: Newt Gingrich/Kit Bond
2000: Evan Bayh/John Kerry
2004: John Kerry/Loretta Sanchez
2008: Tom Vilsack/Mark Warner
2012: Dick Cheney/Rick Santorum
2016: Kit Bond/Jim Webb
2020: Bob Casey/Joe Donnelly
2024: Tim Kaine/Andrew Gillum
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« Reply #855 on: November 06, 2019, 01:59:59 PM »

Robert Byrd would have been a better LBJ analogue.
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« Reply #856 on: November 06, 2019, 08:41:21 PM »

Ronald Reagan as Barack Obama

Ronald Reagan 1981-1989
Jesse Jackson 1989-1993
George HW Bush 1993-1997
Lynn Morley Martin 1997-2005
Hillary Clinton 2005-2009
John McCain 2009-2017
Kristen Gillibrand 2017-
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« Reply #857 on: November 06, 2019, 09:15:15 PM »

I got Jackson as Trump and Bush as Biden, but what about the rest?
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« Reply #858 on: November 09, 2019, 05:04:21 AM »

My dream list of post-WWII presidents and vice presidents

1945-1953: Harry S. Truman/Robert H. Jackson
1953-1961: Earl Warren/Thomas E. Dewey
1961-1969: Lyndon B. Johnson/Hubert Humphrey
1969-1977: Nelson Rockefeller/Gerald Ford
1977-1985: Gerald Ford/John B. Anderson
1985-1993: Mario Cuomo/Reubin Askew
1993-2001: Al Gore/Bob Graham
2001-2009: Richard Lugar/Olympia Snowe
2009-2017: Barack Obama/Joe Biden
2017-incumbent: Andrew Cuomo/Hilda Solis
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« Reply #859 on: November 09, 2019, 09:48:47 PM »

Alternative Prime Ministers of Canada

2006-2013 Stephen Harper (Conservative)
2013-2014 Bob Rae (Liberal-NDP Coalition)
2014-2019 Martha Findlay (Liberal)
2019-2027 Andrew Scheer (Conservative)
2027-2027 Justin Trudeau (Liberal)
2027- Geoff Regan (National Unity (Liberal-Conservative-Bloc Quebecois-Grassroots-People's-Independents League-Independent)






The NDP renamed its name to the Grassroots due to its merger with the Greens after a poor performance for the party in 2023, falling down to single digits and its leader, Jagmeet Singh losing in Brampton East by 7000 votes and coming in third, it's leader is

The Independent League is a small party of defectors after Andrew Sheer's and Justin Treudeu's ethics problems, it's leader is Jody Wilson-Raybould
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« Reply #860 on: November 10, 2019, 03:01:16 AM »

(from President Johnson's thing)



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« Reply #861 on: November 10, 2019, 04:39:33 AM »

36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX)*/Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) 1961-1968
37. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/vacant 1968-1969
38. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Gerald Ford (R-MI) 1969-1977
39. Edmund Muskie (D-ME)/Frank Church (D-ID) 1977-1985
40. Gerald Ford (R-MI)/George H.W. Bush (R-TX) 1985-1989
41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Paul Laxalt (R-NV) 1989-1993
42. Al Gore (D-TN)/Bob Graham (D-FL) 1993-2001
43. Bob Graham (D-FL)/Russ Feingold (D-WI) 2001-2009
44. John McCain (R-AZ)/Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) 2009-2013
45. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)/Norm Coleman (R-MN) 2013-2021
46. Joe Donnelly (D-IN)/Gwen Graham (D-FL) 2021-2029
47. Charlie Baker (R-MA)/Rob Portman (R-OH) 2029-present

* died

Losing Tickets

1960: Richard Nixon/Clliford Case
1964: Barry Goldwater/William Miller
1968: Hubert Humphrey/Ed Muskie
1972: Terry Sanford/George McGovern
1976: Gerald Ford/John Chafee
1980: Ronald Reagan/Bob Dole
1984: Frank Church/Geraldine Ferraro
1988: Michael Dukakis/Bill Clinton
1992: George H.W. Bush/Paul Laxalt
1996: Bob Dole/Jack Kemp
2000: Dick Cheney/George W. Bush
2004: Mike DeWine/Jeb Bush
2008: Russ Feingold/Barack Obama
2012: Barack Obama/Mark Warner
2016: Elizabeth Warren/Joe Manchin
2020: Doug Ducey/Mike Pence
2024: Kelly Ayotte/Ron DeSantis
2028: Kyrsten Sinema/Hakkem Jeffries
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« Reply #862 on: November 10, 2019, 10:09:39 AM »

Same as Johnson and MB, except I didn't bother creating a new party system like the latter did.

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« Reply #863 on: November 10, 2019, 08:16:06 PM »

An interesting idea I had.
John Edwards/Phil Bredesen 2009-17
Phil Bredesen/Barack Obama 2017-2025
Ron DeSantis/John James 2025-2033
Marco Rubio/Nikki Haley 2033-2037
Gavin Newsom/Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez 2037-2045

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« Reply #864 on: November 10, 2019, 09:37:09 PM »
« Edited: November 18, 2019, 10:03:24 PM by Elizabeth Warren 2020 »

Kennedy as Kennedy

37. Robert F. Kennedy/Albert Gore 1969-1971
38. Albert Gore/vacant 1971, Frank Church 1971-1977
39. Nelson Rockefeller/Edward Gurney 1977-1981, vacant 1981, John Rhodes 1981-1982
40. John Rhodes/vacant 1982, George Romney 1982-1985
41. Reubin Askew/Jerry Brown 1985-1989
42. H. John Heinz III/John Warner 1989-1997
43. John Warner/Trent Lott 1997-2001
44. Al Gore/Max Baucus 2001-2009
45. George Allen/John Kasich 2009-2017
46. Elizabeth Warren/Ron Wyden 2017-2025
47. Kanye West/Brian Kemp 2025-2029

Losing Tickets

1968: Nelson Rockefeller/Harold Stassen
1972: Ronald Reagan/Gerald R. Ford
1976: Frank Church/Lloyd Bentsen
1980: William Proxmire/Gary Hart/Ted Kennedy
1984: John Rhodes/Richard Lugar
1988: Reubin Askew/Jerry Brown
1992: Jerry Brown/Ann Richards
1996: Mario Cuomo/Jay Rockefeller
2000: John Warner/Trent Lott
2004: Richard Lugar/Dick Cheney
2008: Max Baucus/Bob Kerrey
2012: Mark Warner/Bill Richardson
2016: Lindsey Graham/Susana Martinez
2020: Larry Hogan/Scott Perry
2024: Tipper Gore/Michael Bennet
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« Reply #865 on: November 11, 2019, 09:07:39 AM »

In 1937, FDR scrambles the party system and creates a French-style system (5 year terms, two terms limit, a national runoff). Warning: leftist wank.

32. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democratic\Labor)- 1933-1945
Vice Presidents: John Nance Garner (Democratic) 1933-1941, Henry A. Wallace (Democratic) 1941-1945, Harry S. Truman (Democratic\Labor) 1945
33. Harry S. Truman (Labor)- 1945-1955
Vice Presidents: Alben W. Barkley (Labor) 1945-1950, Robert H. Jackson (Labor) 1950-1954, Hubert Humphrey (Labor) 1954-1955
34. Hubert Humphrey (Labor)- 1955-1965
Vice President: Stuart Symington (Labor) 1955-1965
35. Margaret Chase Smith (Reform)- 1965-1970
Vice President: Clifford Case (Reform) 1965-1970
36. Henry "Scoop" Jackson (Labor)- 1970-1975
Vice President: Ed Muskie (Labor) 1970-1975
37. Bella Abzug (Progressive Alternative)- 1975-1985
Vice Presidents: Allard Lowenstein (Progressive Alternative) 1975-1980, Harvey Milk (Progressive Alternative) 1980-1985
38. Robert F. Kennedy (Labor)- 1985-1990
Vice President: John Glenn (Labor) 1985-1990
39. Jerry Brown (Liberal Democratic)- 1990-2000
Vice President: Arlen Specter (Liberal Democratic) 1990-2000
40. Bill Weld (Reform)- 2000-2005
Vice President: Christine Todd Whitman (Reform) 2000-2005
41. Howard Dean (Liberal Democratic)- 2005-2010
Vice President: Hillary Rodham (Liberal Democratic) 2005-2010
42. Russ Feingold (Progressive Alternative)- 2010-2020
Vice President: Elizabeth Warren (Progressive Alternative) 2010-2020
43. Jason Kander (Green)- 2020-2030
Vice President: Lizzie Fletcher (Green) 2020-2030


Bonus: Results of the last five elections

2000 U.S. Presidential Election (First Round)
Senator Tom Harkin (Labor)\Senator Barbara Boxer (Labor)- 26.3%
Senator Bill Weld (Reform)\Governor Christine Todd Whitman (Reform)- 24.9%

Fmr. Governor Bill Clinton (Liberal Demcoratic)\Rep. Dick Gephardt (Liberal Democratic)- 15.8%
Governor Jeb Bush (National Conservative)\Senator Elizabeth Dole (National Conservative)- 12.9%
Rep. Bernie Sanders (Progressive Alternative)\Rep. Barbara Lee (Progressive Alternative)- 9.7%
Rep. Al Gore (green)\Rep. Suzanne Bonamici (Green)- 7.3%
Others- 3.1%

2000 U.S. Presidential Election (Second Round)
Senator Bill Weld (Reform)\Governor Christine Todd Whitman (Reform)- 50.8%
Senator Tom Harkin (Labor)\Senator Barbara Boxer (Labor)- 49.2%

2005 U.S. Presidential Election (First Round)
Fmr. Governor Howard Dean (Liberal Demcoratic)\Senator Hillary Rodhan (Liberal Democratic)- 26.6% ↑ (+10.8%) ✓
Senator Russ Feingold (Progressive Alternative)\Rep. Peter DeFazio (Progressive Alternative)- 20.8% ↑ (+11.1%) ✓

President Bill Weld (Reform)\Vice President Christine Todd Whitman (Reform)- 19.6% ↓ (-5.3%)
Senator John McCain (National Conservative)\Businessman Mitt Romney (National Conservative)- 13.2% ↑ (+0.3%)
Rep. Al Gore (Green)\Rep. Suzanne Bonamici (Green)- 9.5% ↑ (+2.2%)
Senator John Edwards (Labor)\Governor Bill Richardson (Labor)- 6.7% ↓ (-19.6%)
Others- 3.6%

2005 U.S. Presidential Election (Second Round)
Fmr. Governor Howard Dean (Liberal Demcoratic)\Senator Hillary Rodhan (Liberal Democratic)- 57.9%
Senator Russ Feingold (Progressive Alternative)\Professor Elizabeth Warren (Progressive Alternative)- 42.1%

2010 U.S. Presidential Election (First Round)
Senator Russ Feingold (Progressive Alternative)\Professor Elizabeth Warren (Progressive Alternative)- 21.5% ↑ (+0.7%) ✓
President Howard Dean (Liberal Demcoratic)\Vice President Hillary Rodhan (Liberal Democratic)- 21.3% ↓ (-5.3%) ✓

Senator Barack Obama (Labor)\Senator John Kerry (Labor)- 19.1% ↑ (+12.4%)
Fmr. Vice President Christine Todd Whitman (Reform)\Governor George Pataki (Reform)- 14.7% ↓ (-4.9%)
Rep. Al Gore (green)\Rep. Suzanne Bonamici (Green)- 12.8% ↑ (+3.3%)
Rep. Paul Ryan (National Conservative)\Governor Rick Perry (National Conservative)- 7.3% ↓ (-5.9%)
Others- 3.3%

2010 U.S. Presidential Election (Second Round)
Senator Russ Feingold (Progressive Alternative)\Professor Elizabeth Warren (Progressive Alternative)- 51.8%
President Howard Dean (Liberal Demcoratic)\Vice President Hillary Rodhan (Liberal Democratic)- 48.2%

2015 U.S. Presidential Election (First Round)
President Russ Feingold (Progressive Alternative)\Vice President Elizabeth Warren (Progressive Alternative)- 23.5% ↑ (+2.0%) ✓
Senator Barack Obama (Labor)\Senator Amy Klobuchar (Labor)- 20.2% ↑ (+1.1%) ✓

Rep. Al Gore (green)\Rep. Jason Kander (Green)- 16.7% ↑ (+3.9%)
Businessman Donald Trump (National American Front)\Senator Jeff Sessions (National American Front)- 14.5% (N\A)
Fmr. Vice President Hillary Rodham (Liberal Demcoratic)\Mayor Pete Buttigieg (Liberal Democratic)- 10.9% ↓ (-10.4%)
Fmr. Foreign Minister Condoleezza Rice (Reform)\Governor Jon Huntsman (Reform)- 9.5% ↓ (-5.2%)
Fmr. Governor Mike Pence (National Conservative)\Rep. Jeff Flake (National Conservative)- 2.3% ↓ (-5.0%)
Others- 2.4%

2015 U.S. Presidential Election (Second Round)
President Russ Feingold (Progressive Alternative)\Vice President Elizabeth Warren (Progressive Alternative)- 50.4%
Senator Barack Obama (Labor)\Mayor Pete Buttigieg (Liberal Democratic)- 49.6%

2020 U.S. Presidential Election (First Round)
Businessman Donald Trump (National American Front)\Businessman Donald Trump Jr. (National American Front)- 20.4% ↑ (+5.9%) ✓
Rep. Jason Kander (Green)\Rep. Lizzie Fletcher (Green)- 19.2% ↑ (+2.5%) ✓

Vice President Elizabeth Warren (Progressive Alternative)\Senator Jeff Merkley (Progressive Alternative)- 18.6% ↓ (-4.9%)
Senator Michael Bennet (Labor)\Rep. Stacey Abrams (Labor)- 16.9% ↓ (-3.3%)
Mayor Pete Buttigieg (Liberal Democratic)\Rep. Sharice Davids (Liberal Democratic)- 11.2% ↑ (+0.3%)
Governor Jon Huntsman (Reform)\Rep. Claudia Tenney (Reform)- 7.7% ↓ (-1.8%)
Rep. Steve Scalice (National Conservative)\Rep. Kevin McCarthy (National Conservative)- 4.3% ↑ (+2.0%)
Others- 1.7%

2020 U.S. Presidential Election (Second Round)
Rep. Jason Kander (Green)\Rep. Lizzie Fletcher (Green)- 68.6%
Businessman Donald Trump (National American Front)\Ms. Ivanka Trump (National American Front)- 31.4%

2025 U.S. Presidential Election (First Round)
President Jason Kander (Green)\Vice President Lizzy Fletcher (Green)- 34.5% ↑ (+7.3%) ✓
Governor Stacey Abrams (Labor)\Rep. Rob Sand (Labor)- 22.4% ↑ (+5.5%) ✓

Fmr. Governor Ron DeSantis (National Conservative)\Rep. Claudia Tenney (Conservative Reform)- 14.1% ↑ (+9.8%)
Rep. Beto O'Rourke (Liberal Democratic)\Mayor Erin Stewart (Liberal Reform)- 13.5% ↑ (+2.3%)
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio Cortez (Progressive Alternative)\Rep. Mondaire Jones (Progressive Alternative)- 9.8% ↓ (-8.8%)
Businessman Donald Trump Jr. (National American Front)\Fmr. Governor Chris Christie (National American Front)- 1.3% ↓ (-19.1%)
Others- 4.4%

2025 U.S. Presidential Election (Second Round)
President Jason Kander (Green)Vice President Lizzy Fletcher (Green)- 56.5%
Governor Stacey Abrams (Labor)Rep. Rob Sand (Labor)- 43.5%

In the 2025 election, the Progressive Alternative split and the more moderate branch, calling themselves the Abzug Progressives, left to join the Greens, in protest of Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, a member of the Sanders Progressives, winning the leadership. Reform split too, in spite of leader Huntsman trying to keep it together, and the more liberal half joined O'Rourke's Liberal Democratc while the more conservative part joined the National Conservatives. Trump's NAF crashes and burns in the h ands of his heir Trump Jr., and so the remnants of the party will later join the Conservative Party. 2030 will see another Green term, with Vice President Fletcher winning a full term in a ticket with Rep. Ritchie Torres, while their main opponents in the second round were Labor again, lead by the Rob SandPeggy Flanagan ticket. 2035 would see Labor finally regaining power, lead by a ticket of Peggy FlanaganMandela Barnes, two Midwestern Governors.
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« Reply #866 on: November 11, 2019, 01:50:36 PM »
« Edited: November 11, 2019, 02:04:12 PM by WB said Trans Rights »

Businessman Donald Trump/Governor Mike Pence (2017-2025)
2016: Def. Fmr. Sec. of State Hillary Clinton/Senator Tim Kaine 2020: Def. Senator Elizabeth Warren/Entrepreneur Andrew Yang and Fmr. Mayor Michael Bloomberg/Businessman Howard Schultz

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez/Senator Tammy Duckworth (2025-2029)
2024: Def. VP Mike Pence/Senator Lindsay Graham

Governor Ron Desantis/Senator Josh Hawley (2029-2033)
2028: Def. Pres. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez/VP Tammy Duckworth and Fmr. Governor Lincoln Chafee/Fmr. Rep. Thomas Massie

Senator John Fetterman/Governor Cyrus Habib (2033-2037)
2032: Def. Pres. Ron DeSantis/VP Josh Hawley

Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith*/Senator Jeff Duncan (2037-2039)
2036: Def. Pres. John Fetterman/VP Cyrus Habib

VP Jeff Duncan/Vacant (2039-2040) /Fmr. VP Josh Hawley (2040-2041)

Governor Dominique McLean/Fmr. Governor Beto O'Rourke (2041-???)
2040: Def. President Jeff Duncan/Fmr. VP Josh Hawley and Rep. Andrew Yang/Businessman Elon Musk [UBI Now] and Charlie Kirk/Dennis Prager [Anti-Furry Action]


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McLean makes history as the first nonbinary president, as well as the first gamer president and first furry president.
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« Reply #867 on: November 11, 2019, 02:25:05 PM »

The Four Party System


Paul Martin 1993-2000 (Liberals)
Joe Clark 2000-2002 (PC-Reform Coalition)
Sheila Copps 2002-2008 (Liberals)
Stephen Harper 2008-2013 (Alliance)
Jack Layton 2013-2015 (NDP-Liberals Coalition)
Michael Chong 2015- (PC)
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« Reply #868 on: November 28, 2019, 10:06:55 PM »

PRIME MINISTERS of the UNITED STATES
Secretary of the Treasury (appointed by POTUS with the consent of the Senate)
1. Alexander Hamilton (Federalist | Federalist majority) 1789 – 1794
Secretary of State (appointed by POTUS with the consent of the Senate)
2. Timothy Pickering (Federalist | Federalist majority) 1794 – 1795
–. Timothy Pickering (Federalist | Federalist minority) 1795 – 1797

–. Timothy Pickering (High Federalist | High Federalist majority) 1797 – 1800
3. John Marshall (Presidential Federalist | Presidential Federalist minority) 1800 – 1801
4. James Madison (Republican | Republican majority) 1801 – 1809
5. Albert Gallatin (Republican | Republican majority) 1809 – 1811
6. James Monroe (Republican | Republican majority) 1811 – 1817

7. John Quincy Adams (National Republican | National Republican majority) 1817 – 1825
8. Henry Clay (National Republican | National Republican majority) 1825 – 1827
–. Henry Clay (National Republican | National Republican minority) 1827 – 1829

9. Martin Van Buren (Jacksonian | Jacksonian majority) 1829 – 1837
10. John Forsyth (Democratic | Democratic majority) 1837 – 1841
11. Daniel Webster (Whig | Whig majority) 1841 – 1841
–. Daniel Webster (Whig | Presidential minority) 1841 – 1843

12. John Caldwell Calhoun (Democratic | Democratic majority) 1843 – 1845
13. James Buchanan (Democratic | Democratic majority) 1845 – 1847
–. James Buchanan (Democratic | Democratic minority) 1847 – 1849

14. Daniel Webster (Whig | Whig minority) 1849 – 1852 †
15. Edward Everett (Whig | Whig minority) 1852 – 1853

16. William Learned Marcy (Democratic | Democratic majority) 1853 – 1855
17. Nathaniel Prentice Banks (Native American | Opposition coalition majority) 1855 – 1857
18. Lewis Cass (Democratic | Democratic majority) 1857 – 1859
–. Lewis Cass (Democratic | Democratic minority) 1859 – 1860
19. Jeremiah Sullivan Black (Democratic | Democratic minority) 1860 – 1861

20. William Henry Seward (Republican | Republican majority) 1861 – 1863
–. William Henry Seward (Republican | Republican–Unionist coalition majority) 1863 – 1865
–. William Henry Seward (Republican | Republican majority) 1865 – 1868

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21. Benjamin Franklin Wade (Radical Republican | Republican majority) 1868 – 1869
22. James Gillespie Blaine (Republican | Republican majority) 1869 – 1875
23. Thomas Andrews Hendricks (Democratic | Democratic majority) 1875 – 1881
–. James Gillespie Blaine (Republican | Republican majority) 1881 – 1883
–. Thomas Andrews Hendricks (Democratic | Democratic majority) 1883 – 1885 †
24. Allen Granberry Thurman (Democratic | Democratic majority) 1885 – 1889
–. James Gillespie Blaine (Republican | Republican majority) 1889 – 1891
25. Charles Frederick Crisp (Democratic | Democratic majority) 1891 – 1895
26. William McKinley (Republican | Republican majority) 1895 – 1901 ‡
27. Henry Cabot Lodge (Republican | Republican majority) 1901 – 1911

28. James Beauchamp Clark (Democratic | Democratic majority) 1911 – 1917
–. Henry Cabot Lodge (Republican | Republican majority) 1917 – 1924 †
29. Charles Evans Hughes (Republican | Republican majority) 1924 – 1925

30. Joseph Taylor Robinson (Democratic | Democratic majority) 1925 – 1931
–. Joseph Taylor Robinson (Democratic | Democratic minority) 1931 – 1933

31. Huey Pierce Long (American | American–Farmer-Labor minority) 1933 – 1935 †
32. Henry Asgard Wallace (American Labor | American Labor minority) 1935 – 1935

33. Henry Ford (National Front | National Front–Republican majority) 1935 – 1937
–. Henry Ford (National Front | National Front majority) 1937 – 1938
–. Henry Ford (National Front | National Front unanimity) 1938 – 1947 †
34. Charles Augustus Lindbergh (National Front | National Front unanimity) 1947 – 1968 ^
35. Curtis Emerson LeMay (National Front | National Front unanimity) 1968 – 1974 ^
36. Gerald Rudolph Ford (National Front | National Front unanimity) 1974 – 1976

37. Birch Evans Bayh (Democratic Action | Democratic Action–Social Democratic–Labor majority) 1976 – 1980
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39. Mario Matthew Cuomo (Alliance | Alliance–Justice–Labor majority) 1990 – 1998
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40. Daniel Ray Coats (Christian Democratic | Christian Democratic–People's–Farmers' majority) 2002 – 2006
–. Daniel Ray Coats (Christian Democratic | Christian Democratic–Farmers' majority) 2006 – 2010

42. Barrack Hussein Obama (Working Families–Justice–Labor majority) 2010 – 2018
43. Thomas Bryant Cotton (People's | People's–Christian Democratic–Farmers' majority) 2018 – present
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« Reply #869 on: November 30, 2019, 09:21:16 PM »

33. Cordell Hull (1941-1949) (D-TN)
VP : Scott Lucas (D-IL)
1940 : def. Businessman Wendell Willkie (R-NY)/Senator Chalres McNary (R-OR)
1944 : def. Governor Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Governor John W. Bricker (R-OH)

34. Walt Disney (1949-1961) (R-MO)
VP : Joseph McCarthy (1949-1957)* (R-WI)
Vacant (1957-1961)
1948 : def. Former Secretary of State James F. Byrnes (D-SC)/Senator Spessard Holland (D-FL)
1952 : def. Governor Adlai Stevenson (D-IL)/Senator John Sparkman (D-AL)
1956 : Senator Lyndon Baines Johnson (D-TX)/Senator Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)

35. Walter Judd (1961-1969) (R-MN)
VP : Gerald Ford (R-MI)
1960 : def. Governor Joe Kennedy Jr. (D-MA)/Senator Stuart Symington (D-MO)
1964 : def. Senator Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Senator Edmund Muskie (D-ME)

36. George Lincoln Rockwell (1969-1974)** (D-VA)
VP : John C. Stennis (D-MS)
1968 : def. Senator Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)/Governor George Romney (R-MI)
1972 : Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Senator John Tower (R-TX)

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37. Al Gore (2013-2019)*** (L-IN)
VP : John Kerry (L-MA)
2012 : def. Businessman Mitt Romney (C-UT)/Governor George Pataki (C-NY)

38. Marco Rubio (2019-Present) (C-FL)
VP : Rand Paul (C-IL)
2018 : def. Vice President John Kerry (L-MA)/Senator Hillary Clinton (L-AR)

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** - Presidency abolished and turned into a dictatorship under Rockwell, Country remains Dictatorship until 2010s with the opening of the Country
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« Reply #870 on: November 30, 2019, 10:04:15 PM »

Okay, I'll bite. How the hell did an unabashed Nazi win the Dem nomination in '68?
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« Reply #871 on: November 30, 2019, 10:07:51 PM »

Okay, I'll bite. How the hell did an unabashed Nazi win the Dem nomination in '68?

He was Governor of VA from 1962-1966 and U.S. Senator from VA from 1966-1968. Also, he was a key figure in helping Humphrey get the Nomination in '64 and hadn't let it slip that he was a fascist until the day after he was re-elected in 1972. By that point in time, he's already primaried most in his party who opposed him and those who oppose him in the GOP have their hand dirty from the Disney admin.
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« Reply #872 on: December 02, 2019, 06:47:05 PM »
« Edited: December 04, 2019, 04:24:10 PM by Elizabeth Warren 2020 »

McCain as Truman

44. John McCain/Bill Frist 2009-2013
45. James Stavridis/Kendrick Meek 2013-2021
46. Marco Rubio/John Cornyn 2021-2023
47. John Cornyn/vacant 2023, Mike Pence 2023-2029

Losing Tickets

2008: John Kerry/Barack Obama
2012: Mitt Romney/Jim Risch
2016: Mitt Romney/Tom Cotton
2020: Kendrick Meek/Andrew Cuomo
2024: Elizabeth Warren/Keith Ellison
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« Reply #873 on: December 02, 2019, 09:15:42 PM »

WI: Congress selected the President, who can't serve consecutive terms

1. George Washington (Ind.-VA) Apr. 30 1789-Mar. 4 1793
2. John Adams (Federalist-MA) Mar. 4 1793-Mar. 4 1797
- George Washington (I-VA) Mar. 4 1797-Mar. 4 1801
3. Thomas Jefferson (Dem-Rep.-VA) Mar. 4 1801-Mar. 4 1805
4. James Madison (DR-VA) Mar. 4 1805-Mar. 4 1809
5. Aaron Burr (DR-NY) Mar. 4 1809-Dec. 9 1811*
- Thomas Jefferson (DR-VA) Dec. 9 1811-Mar. 4 1813
6. James Monroe (DR-VA) Mar. 4 1813-Mar. 4 1817
7. William Crawford (DR-GA) Mar. 4 1817-Mar. 4 1821
8. John Q. Adams (DR-MA) Mar. 4 1821-Mar. 4 1825**
9. John Calhoun (DR-SC) Mar. 4 1825-Mar. 4 1829
10. Andrew Jackson (Democratic-TN) Mar. 4 1829-Mar. 4 1833
11. Martin Van Buren (D-NY) Mar. 4 1833-Mar. 4 1837
12. Roger Taney (D-MD) Mar. 4 1837-Mar. 4 1841
13. Henry Clay (Whig-KY) Mar. 4 1841-Mar. 4 1845
14. James Buchanan (D-PA) Mar. 4 1845-Mar. 4 1849
15. Winfield Scott (W-VA) Mar. 4 1849-Mar. 4 1853
16. Stephen Douglas (D-IL) Mar. 4 1853-Mar. 4 1857
17. Franklin Pierce (D-NH) Mar. 4 1857-Mar. 4 1861
18. Howell Cobb (D-GA) Mar. 4 1861-Mar. 4 1865
19. Cassius M. Clay (Republican-KY) Mar. 4 1865-Mar. 4 1869
20. William Seward (R-NY) Mar. 4 1869-Mar. 4 1873
21. Schuyler Colfax (R-IN) Mar. 4 1873-Mar. 4 1877
22. James G. Blaine (R-ME) Mar. 4 1877-Mar. 4 1881
24. Thomas F. Bayard (D-DE) Mar. 4 1881-Mar. 4 1885
26. Robert T. Lincoln (R-IL) Mar. 4 1885-Mar. 4 1889
27. Grover Cleveland (D-NY) Mar. 4 1889-Mar. 4 1893
28. John W. Daniel (D-VA) Mar. 4 1893-Mar. 4 1897
29. William B. Allison (R-IA) Mar. 4 1897-Mar. 4 1901
30. Matthew Quay (R-PA) Mar. 4 1901-Mar. 4 1905
31. John S. Williams (D-MS) Mar. 4 1905-Mar. 4 1909
32. John Hay (R-IL) Mar. 4 1909-Mar. 4 1913
33. Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY) Mar. 4 1913-Mar. 4 1917
34. Oscar Underwood (D-AL) Mar. 4 1917-Mar. 4 1921
35. Hiram Johnson (R-CA) Mar. 4 1921-Mar. 4 1925
36. John W. Weeks (R-MA) Mar. 4 1925-Mar. 4 1929
37. Carter Glass (D-VA) Mar. 4 1929-Mar. 4 1933
38. Charles Curtis (R-KS) Mar. 4 1933-Mar. 4 1937



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**The Compromise of 1820 includes an additional part, stating that the Presidency will rotate between the North, South and "West" on a 12-year cycle, effective with Adams' election in 1821. Congress plays fast and loose with regions, and skips the South's presidency of 1873-1877 due to this TL's Civl War
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« Reply #874 on: December 07, 2019, 11:04:31 AM »

Gore as Truman

43. Al Gore/Tom Daschle 2001-2005
44. Colin Powell/George Allen 2005-2013
45. Andrew Cuomo/Dick Durbin 2013-2015
46. Dick Durbin/vacant 2015, Julian Castro 2015-2021
47. George Allen/Bruce Rauner 2021-2025, vacant 2025, Kevin McCarthy 2025-2026
48. Kevin McCarthy/vacant 2026, Larry Hogan 2026-2029

Losing Tickets

2000: George W. Bush/Tom Ridge
2004: Gray Davis/Joe Lieberman
2008: Gray Davis/Kent Conrad
2012: George Allen/Lincoln Chafee
2016: Mike Huckabee/Paul Ryan
2020: Julian Castro/Barack Obama
2024: Kamala Harris/Andrew Gillum/Jack Lew
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