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« Reply #1350 on: May 01, 2023, 11:17:04 AM »

37. Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew 1969-1973, vacant 1973, Gerald Ford 1973-1974
38. Gerald Ford/vacant 1974, Nelson Rockefeller 1974-1977
39. Ronald Reagan/Richard Schweiker 1977-1981
40. Joe Biden/Mo Udall 1981-1985, Al Gore 1985-1989
41. Al Gore/John Kerry 1989-1997
42. John Kerry/Dianne Feinstein 1997-2005
43. John McCain/Tom Ridge 2005-2011
44. Tom Ridge/vacant 2011-2012, Rob Portman 2012-2013
45. Howard Dean/Sherrod Brown 2013-2021
46. Sherrod Brown/Elizabeth Warren 2021-present
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« Reply #1351 on: May 02, 2023, 01:06:59 AM »

37. Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew 1969-1973, vacant 1973, Gerald Ford 1973-1974
38. Gerald Ford/vacant 1974, Nelson Rockefeller 1974-1977
39. Ronald Reagan/Richard Schweiker 1977-1981
40. Joe Biden/Mo Udall 1981-1985, Al Gore 1985-1989
41. Al Gore/John Kerry 1989-1997
42. John Kerry/Dianne Feinstein 1997-2005
43. John McCain/Tom Ridge 2005-2011
44. Tom Ridge/vacant 2011-2012, Rob Portman 2012-2013
45. Howard Dean/Sherrod Brown 2013-2021
46. Sherrod Brown/Elizabeth Warren 2021-present

Back to back two term Democratic Presidents
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« Reply #1352 on: May 02, 2023, 02:31:57 PM »

35. Richard Nixon (Republican) 1961-1969 term-limited
      VP: Henry Cabot Lodge Jr.
      def. John F. Kennedy/Lyndon B. Johnson (1960)
      def. Ross Barnett/Happy Chandler and Eugene McCarthy/George McGovern (1964)

36. John F. Kennedy (Democratic) 1969-1977 term-limited
      VP: Terry Sanford
      def. Henry Cabot Lodge Jr./George Romney (1968)
      def. Ronald Reagan/Howard Baker (1972)

37. Gerald Ford (Republican) 1977-1985 term-limited
      VP: George H.W. Bush
      def. Jerry Brown/Edmund Muskie (1976)
      def. Terry Sanford/Scoop Jackson (1980)

38. George H.W. Bush (Republican) 1985-1988 assassinated
      VP: Elizabeth Dole
      def. Walter Mondale/Geraldine Ferraro (1984)

39. Elizabeth Dole (Republican) 1988-1993 lost re-election
      VP: Richard Lugar
      def. Michael Dukakis/John Glenn (1988)

40. Joe Biden (Democratic) 1993-2001 term-limited
      VP: Lloyd Bentsen
      def. Elizabeth Dole/Richard Lugar (1992)
      def. Jack Kemp/Connie Mack III (1996)

41. Colin Powell (Republican) 2001-2009 term-limited
      VP: John McCain
      def. Al Gore/John Kerry (2000)
      def. John Edwards/Bill Bradley (2004)

42. Hillary Clinton (Democratic) 2009-2017 term-limited
      VP: Evan Bayh
      def. John McCain/Tim Pawlenty (2008)
      def. Mike Huckabee/Mitch Daniels (2012)

43. Barack Obama (Democratic) 2017-present
      VP: Elizabeth Warren
      def. Mitt Romney/John Thune (2016)
      def. Ted Cruz/Scott Brown (2020)
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« Reply #1353 on: May 06, 2023, 11:13:34 AM »

Two Terms For All:

34. Dwight Eisenhower / Richard Nixon (Republican): 1953-1961
35. John F. Kennedy / Lyndon Johnson (Democratic:) 1961-1969
36. Nelson Rockefeller / John Tower (Republican): 1969-1977
37. Ted Kennedy / John Glenn (Democratic): 1977-1985
38. John Glenn / Bob Graham (Democratic): 1985-1993
39. Pete Wilson / Tom Ridge (Republican): 1993-2001
40. John Kerry / Dick Gephardt (Democratic): 2001-2009
41. Mitt Romney / Jeb Bush (Republican): 2009-2017
42. Jeb Bush / Nikki Haley (Republican): 2017-2025
43. Gretchen Whitmer / Roy Cooper (Democratic): 2025-Present
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« Reply #1354 on: May 06, 2023, 11:32:36 AM »

In and Out:

39. Jimmy Carter / Walter Mondale (Democratic): 1977-1981
40. Ronald Reagan / George Bush (Republican): 1981-1985
41. Gary Hart / Lloyd Bentsen (Democratic): 1985-1989
42. Bob Dole / Lamar Alexander (Republican): 1989-1993
43. Paul Tsongas / Bill Clinton (Democratic): 1993-1997
44. Bill Clinton / Evan Bayh (Democratic): 1997-2001
45. Elizabeth Dole / George W. Bush (Republican): 2001-2005
46. Joe Biden / John Edwards (Democratic): 2005-2009
47. George W. Bush / Tim Pawlenty (Republican): 2009-2013
48. Andrew Cuomo / Al Franken (Democratic): 2013-2017
49. Marco Rubio / John Kasich (Republican): 2017-2021
50. Jay Inslee / Elizabeth Warren (Democratic): 2021-2025
51. Tim Scott / Ron Johnson (Republican): 2025-Present
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« Reply #1355 on: May 10, 2023, 03:32:04 AM »

Presidents of the USA:

Harry Daugherty (Republican): 1929-1934†
Andrew Mellon (Republican): 1934-1937
Howard Scott (Technocrat): 1937-1942

Chief Administrators of the United Technates of North America:

Howard Scott (Mainliners) [Engineer]: 1942-1957
M. King Hubbert (Mainliners) [Geologist]: 1957-1981
Thomas J. Watson Jr. (Electronic-Focus Faction) [Electronics Manufacturing Director]: 1981-1988*
Colin Powell (Military-Focus Faction) [General]: 1988-2004*
Bill Gates (Electronic-Focus Faction) [Electronics Manufacturing Director]: 2004-2013
Mark Zuckerberg (Hardliners) [Media Magnate]: 2013-2017
Anthony Fauci (Mainliners) [Immunologist]: 2017-2020†
Lawrence Tabak (Mainliners) [Biomedical Scientist]: 2020-2022*
Elon Musk (Hardliners) [Director of Space Exploration and Colonization]: 2022-2038†
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (Reformers) [Microbiologist]: 2038-2041†
[REDACTED] (Reformers) [Meteorologist]: 2041-2044**


† Assassinated
*Removed by a leadership challenge within the Council of Technates
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« Reply #1356 on: May 23, 2023, 12:03:38 PM »

FDR follows Precedent of 2 terms:
Franklin Roosevelt (D-NY)/John Nance Garner (D-TX) 1933-1941
Cordell Hull (D-TN)/Carl Hayden(D-AZ) 1941-1949
Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Earl Warren (R-CA) 1949-1957
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Adlai Stevenson II (D-IL) 1957-1965
Adlai Stevenson II (D-IL)*/John F. Kennedy (D-MA) 1965
John F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Terry Sanford (D-NC) 1965-1972
Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Richard Nixon (R-CA) 1972-1981
Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY)/Mo Udall (D-AZ) 1981-1989
Richard Nixon (R-CA)**/Alexander Haig (R-PA) 1989-1991
Alexander Haig (R-PA)**/Bob Dole (R-KS) 1991-1991
Bob Dole (R-KS)/Howard Baker (R-TN) 1991-1993
George McGovern (D-SD)/Al Gore (D-TN) 1993-2001
Al Gore (D-TN)/Evan Bayh (D-IN) 2001-2005
John McCain (R-AZ)/Tom Ridge (R-PA) 2005-2009
Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Barack Obama (D-IL) 2009-2017
Barack Obama (D-IL)/Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) 2017-2025

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« Reply #1357 on: May 29, 2023, 11:08:38 PM »

33. Wendell L. Willkie (R) - January 20, 1941 - August 7, 1945
34. Harold E. Stassen (R) - August 7, 1945 - January 20, 1949
35. Harry S. Truman (D) - January 20, 1949 - January 20, 1953
36. Harold E. Stassen (R) - January 20, 1953 - January 20, 1957
37. Lyndon B. Johnson (D) - January 20, 1957 - January 20, 1965
38. Hubert H. Humphrey (D) - January 20, 1965 - January 20, 1969
39. Charles H. Percy (R) - January 20, 1969 - January 20, 1973
40. Birch E. Bayh (D) - January 20, 1973 - April 15, 1979
41. Reubin O. Askew (D) - April 15, 1979 - January 20, 1981
42. Patricia H. Saiki (R) - January 20, 1981 - January 20, 1989
43. Michael S. Dukakis (D) - January 20, 1989 - January 20, 1997
44. Albert A. Gore Jr. (D) - January 20, 1997 - January 20, 2001
45. Peter B. Wilson (R) - January 20, 2001 - TBD
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« Reply #1358 on: May 29, 2023, 11:14:10 PM »
« Edited: June 03, 2023, 03:54:34 PM by dw93 »

One 6 year term instead of two four year terms starting in 1952:

34. Dwight Eisenhower / Richard Nixon (Republican): 1953-1959
35. Lyndon Johnson / John F. Kennedy (Democratic): 1959-1965
36. John F. Kennedy / Pat Brown (Democratic): 1965-1971
37. George Romney / John Tower (Republican): 1971-1977
38. Henry Jackson / Reubin Askew (Democratic): 1977-1983
39. Howard Baker / Pete du Pont (Republican): 1983-1989
40. Pete du Pont / George Bush (Republican): 1989-1995
41. Joe Biden / Al Gore (Democratic): 1995-2001
42. Al Gore / John Kerry (Democratic): 2001-2007
43. John McCain / George Allen (Republican): 2007-2013
44. Barack Obama / Jim Webb (Democratic): 2013-2019
45. Jim Webb / Amy Klobuchar (Democratic): 2019-2025
46. Nikki Haley / Rob Portman (Republican): 2025-(Incumbent)
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« Reply #1359 on: June 01, 2023, 09:02:25 AM »

One 6 year term instead of two four year terms starting in 1952:

34. Dwight Eisenhower / Richard Nixon (Republican): 1953-1959
35. Lyndon Johnson / John F. Kennedy (Democratic): 1959-1965
36. John F. Kennedy / Pat Brown (Democratic): 1965-1971
37. George Romney / John Tower (Republican): 1971-1977
38. Henry Jackson / Reubin Askew (Democratic): 1977-1983
39. Howard Baker / Pete du Pont (Republican): 1983-1989
40. Pete du Pont / George Bush (Republican): 1989-1995
41. Joe Biden / Al Gore (Democratic): 1995-2001
42. Al Gore / John Kerry (Democratic): 2001-2007
43. John McCain / George Allen (Republican): 2007-2013
44. Barack Obama / Jim Webb (Democratic): 2013-2019
45. Jim Webb / Amy Klobuchar (Democratic): 2019-2023
46. Nikki Haley / Rob Portman (Republican): 2023-(Incumbent)

Why would Jim Webb's term be four years? A typo?
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« Reply #1360 on: June 02, 2023, 11:29:02 AM »
« Edited: June 02, 2023, 02:43:42 PM by bagelman »

41. George Bush (Republican-Texas) 1989-1993
42. Donald J. Trump (Reform-New York) 1993-1999 (impeached) [1]
43. Dick Gephardt (Democrat-Missouri) 1999-2001 [2]
44. John Kasich (Republican-Ohio) 2001-2009 [3]
45. Bill Clinton (Democrat-Arkansas) 2009-2017 [4]
46. Hillary Clinton (Democrat-Washington DC) 2017-2021 [5]
47. Ted Cruz (Republican-Texas) 2021-2029 [6]
48. Marco Rubio (Republican-Florida) 2029-2033 [7]
49. Micheal J. Hoffman (Democrat-Ohio) 2033- [8]


Notable losers:

1992: George Bush (Republican-Texas), Paul Tsongas (Democrat-Massachusetts)
1996: Joe Biden (Democrat-Delaware), Jim Gilmore (Republican-Virginia)
2000: Dick Gephardt (Democrat-Missouri), Ben Carson (Reform-Maryland)
2004: Howard Dean (Democrat-Vermont)
2008: John E. "Jeb" Bush (Republican-Texas), Carly Fiorina (Reform-California)
2012: Mike Huckabee (Republican-Arkansas), George Pataki (Reform-New York)
2016: Rand Paul (Republican-Kentucky), Evan McMullin (Reform-Utah)
2020: Hillary Clinton (Democrat-New York)
2024: Barack H. Obama (Democrat-Illinois)
2028: Kamala D. Harris (Democrat-California)
2032: Marco Rubio (Republican-Florida)

Other semi-notable figures:

Rick Santorum (Republican-Pennsylvania) was the running mate of Mike Huckabee in 2012.

Chris Christie (Republican-New Jersey) was the running mate of Rand Paul in 2016 and unsuccessful candidate for the GOP nomination in 2020.

Lindsey Graham (Republican-South Carolina), Bobby Jindal (Republican-Louisiana), Rick Perry (Republican-Texas), and Scott Walker (Republican-Wisconsin) all ran for President at some point but lost the Republican nomination.

Footnotes:

[1] Compared NAFTA to a "giant sucking sound", a sentiment many feel is vindicated, even many who despise him. Trump governed more like a populist in his later years and also became more corrupt and unpopular with competent cabinet members who were often fired or resigned. A massive corruption scandal lead to his impeachment by a Democratic controlled congress, and the end of the millennium is remembered as a chaotic time in US political history as millions were personally loyal to him and sat out the 2000 election. Even today, hundreds of thousands still belong to his cult of personality.

[2] Trump's second VP, Patrick Buchanan (Reform-Virginia), was already out of office so the Democratic speaker of the House assumed power.

[3] Fiscal conservative who ran as a moderate in both his campaigns, to distance himself from right wing populism inspired by Trump.

[4] The moderate "New Democrat" faction came out on top in the bitterly contested Democratic primaries. After Obama withdrew and a right-wing tech CEO won the Reform party nomination, many believed the Green Party would mount a significant challenge for the Presidency. The Green Party chose to go down the route of kooky new age weirdness and flopped hard.

[5] The nomination of the wife of a sitting President was not without staunch opposition, generally from the left in the Democratic primaries. Once again, the moderate faction won out, this time with divide and conquer tactics. Hillary Clinton was an underdog but prevailed by attacking her opponent's staunch ideological stances. An issue focused campaign kept the White House in the Clinton family for a third term.

The 2020 Democratic primary was the most serious challenge to a sitting Democratic president in 40 years, as Bernie Sanders, originally in it just to give a platform to his left wing views, stayed in longer than planned when President Clinton aggressively tried to put him down. Despite facing another staunchly right wing opponent, President Clinton ran a weak campaign in 2020, was easier on her opponent than she was on Sanders, and clearly expected to lose.

[6] Some compare him to Ronald Reagan, but President Cruz is more comparable to President Kasich in that his fiscally conservative ideas were often blocked by a Democratic controlled congress less amenable to right wing policy than the Democrats of the 1980s. The government of the 2020s was characterized as doing nothing to solve anything, and many Cruz supporters openly liked that.

Cruz's biggest accomplishment was the invasion of Cuba and the overthrow of its decrepit post-communist regime. This was during his second term, in the mid 2020s. The success of this invasion was a major contributor to Republican retention of the White House in 2028, along with a weaker Democratic candidate.

[7] The Bush to Cruz's Reagan. The meme of him nervously taking a drink of water while giving a speech to the American people on an important issue is still laughed about today. When the occupation of Cuba was winding down in the early 2030s, Rubio was forced to campaign on other issues, and it was revealed that he wasn't that great.

[8] First mayor of Cleveland, Ohio to become President. A staunch progressive, finally giving the emergent left wing the White House. Also the first black President. There are dark rumors that a cabal of tech CEO's and hardline right wingers attempted a coup against him in January 2033, but if such rumors are true then it failed.
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« Reply #1361 on: June 02, 2023, 06:54:02 PM »

41. George Bush (Republican-Texas) 1989-1993
42. Donald J. Trump (Reform-New York) 1993-1999 (impeached) [1]
43. Dick Gephardt (Democrat-Missouri) 1999-2001 [2]
44. John Kasich (Republican-Ohio) 2001-2009 [3]
45. Bill Clinton (Democrat-Arkansas) 2009-2017 [4]
46. Hillary Clinton (Democrat-Washington DC) 2017-2021 [5]
47. Ted Cruz (Republican-Texas) 2021-2029 [6]
48. Marco Rubio (Republican-Florida) 2029-2033 [7]
49. Micheal J. Hoffman (Democrat-Ohio) 2033- [8]


Notable losers:

1992: George Bush (Republican-Texas), Paul Tsongas (Democrat-Massachusetts)
1996: Joe Biden (Democrat-Delaware), Jim Gilmore (Republican-Virginia)
2000: Dick Gephardt (Democrat-Missouri), Ben Carson (Reform-Maryland)
2004: Howard Dean (Democrat-Vermont)
2008: John E. "Jeb" Bush (Republican-Texas), Carly Fiorina (Reform-California)
2012: Mike Huckabee (Republican-Arkansas), George Pataki (Reform-New York)
2016: Rand Paul (Republican-Kentucky), Evan McMullin (Reform-Utah)
2020: Hillary Clinton (Democrat-New York)
2024: Barack H. Obama (Democrat-Illinois)
2028: Kamala D. Harris (Democrat-California)
2032: Marco Rubio (Republican-Florida)

Other semi-notable figures:

Rick Santorum (Republican-Pennsylvania) was the running mate of Mike Huckabee in 2012.

Chris Christie (Republican-New Jersey) was the running mate of Rand Paul in 2016 and unsuccessful candidate for the GOP nomination in 2020.

Lindsey Graham (Republican-South Carolina), Bobby Jindal (Republican-Louisiana), Rick Perry (Republican-Texas), and Scott Walker (Republican-Wisconsin) all ran for President at some point but lost the Republican nomination.

Footnotes:

[1] Compared NAFTA to a "giant sucking sound", a sentiment many feel is vindicated, even many who despise him. Trump governed more like a populist in his later years and also became more corrupt and unpopular with competent cabinet members who were often fired or resigned. A massive corruption scandal lead to his impeachment by a Democratic controlled congress, and the end of the millennium is remembered as a chaotic time in US political history as millions were personally loyal to him and sat out the 2000 election. Even today, hundreds of thousands still belong to his cult of personality.

[2] Trump's second VP, Patrick Buchanan (Reform-Virginia), was already out of office so the Democratic speaker of the House assumed power.

[3] Fiscal conservative who ran as a moderate in both his campaigns, to distance himself from right wing populism inspired by Trump.

[4] The moderate "New Democrat" faction came out on top in the bitterly contested Democratic primaries. After Obama withdrew and a right-wing tech CEO won the Reform party nomination, many believed the Green Party would mount a significant challenge for the Presidency. The Green Party chose to go down the route of kooky new age weirdness and flopped hard.

[5] The nomination of the wife of a sitting President was not without staunch opposition, generally from the left in the Democratic primaries. Once again, the moderate faction won out, this time with divide and conquer tactics. Hillary Clinton was an underdog but prevailed by attacking her opponent's staunch ideological stances. An issue focused campaign kept the White House in the Clinton family for a third term.

The 2020 Democratic primary was the most serious challenge to a sitting Democratic president in 40 years, as Bernie Sanders, originally in it just to give a platform to his left wing views, stayed in longer than planned when President Clinton aggressively tried to put him down. Despite facing another staunchly right wing opponent, President Clinton ran a weak campaign in 2020, was easier on her opponent than she was on Sanders, and clearly expected to lose.

[6] Some compare him to Ronald Reagan, but President Cruz is more comparable to President Kasich in that his fiscally conservative ideas were often blocked by a Democratic controlled congress less amenable to right wing policy than the Democrats of the 1980s. The government of the 2020s was characterized as doing nothing to solve anything, and many Cruz supporters openly liked that.

Cruz's biggest accomplishment was the invasion of Cuba and the overthrow of its decrepit post-communist regime. This was during his second term, in the mid 2020s. The success of this invasion was a major contributor to Republican retention of the White House in 2028, along with a weaker Democratic candidate.

[7] The Bush to Cruz's Reagan. The meme of him nervously taking a drink of water while giving a speech to the American people on an important issue is still laughed about today. When the occupation of Cuba was winding down in the early 2030s, Rubio was forced to campaign on other issues, and it was revealed that he wasn't that great.

[8] First mayor of Cleveland, Ohio to become President. A staunch progressive, finally giving the emergent left wing the White House. Also the first black President. There are dark rumors that a cabal of tech CEO's and hardline right wingers attempted a coup against him in January 2033, but if such rumors are true then it failed.

Bill and Hillary back-to-back
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« Reply #1362 on: June 02, 2023, 11:38:07 PM »

Jimmy Carter (D): January 20, 1977-January 20, 1985
-Elected 1976 (305-233 EV/51.0%-47.0% PV)
-Elected 1980 (276-262 EV/46.6%-47.5% PV)
Walter Mondale (D): January 20, 1985-January 20, 1989
-Elected 1984 (300-238 EV/ 49.7%-47.4% PV)
George H.W. Bush (R): January 20, 1989-January 20, 1993
-Elected 1988 (323-215 EV/ 52.2%-45.1% PV)
Al Gore (D): January 20, 1993-January 20, 2001
-Elected 1992 (270-268 EV/ 48.1%-48.0% PV)
-Elected 1996 (467-71 EV/ 55.5%-42.8% PV)
Ann Richards (D): January 20, 2001-January 20, 2005
-Elected 2000 (307-231 EV/ 50.4%-49.1% PV)
William Cohen (R): January 20, 2005-January 20, 2013
-Elected 2004 (282-256 EV/ 49.3%-48.9% PV)
-Elected 2008 (419-119 EV/ 54.0%-42.8% PV)
John McCain (R): January 20, 2013-May 24, 2014
-Elected 2012 (272-266 EV/ 47.9%-48.0% PV)
Susan Collins (R): May 24, 2014-January 20, 2017
Barack Obama (D): January 20, 2017-January 20, 2021
-Elected 2016 (347-191 EV/ 52.0%-47.3% PV)
Susan Collins (R): January 20, 2021-Present
-Elected 2020 (257-266-15 EV/ 44.8%-46.2%-9.0% PV)

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« Reply #1363 on: June 03, 2023, 03:24:08 AM »
« Edited: June 03, 2023, 03:35:00 AM by bagelman »

A list in the same flavor as the last one I made. Much shorter for a smaller US.

Presidents:

Donald J. Trump (Liberal-New York) 2001-2005
Bernard Sanders (Socialist-Vermont) 2005-2013
Hillary Clinton (Liberal-New York) 2013-2021


Vice Presidents:

Jim Webb (Liberal-Virginia) 2001-2005
Bill DeBlasio (Socialist-New York) 2005-2013
Joe Biden (Liberal-Delaware) 2013-2017
Martin O'Malley (Liberal-Maryland) 2017-2021


Notable losers:

2000: Ralph Nader (Socialist-Connecticut)
2004: Donald Trump (Liberal-New York)
2008: Lincoln Chafee (Liberal-Rhode Island)

2012: Bill DeBlasio (Socialist-New York)
2016: Elizabeth Warren (Socialist-Massachusetts)


As for 2020, the Liberals are set to nominate Vice President O'Malley, although there are rumors that Biden might try to rejoin the fray despite his age. Representing the moderate wing of the Liberal party (as Clinton herself had to an extent) Biden had decided to step down from running for a second term alongside President Clinton due to family tragedy. O'Malley is certainly beatable in a general election but the Socialists have yet to agree on a good candidate.

This version of the US is small. Shown is the 2008 election, and it should be noted that there is no electoral college, and state borders are certainly different than shown:

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« Reply #1364 on: June 03, 2023, 03:53:55 PM »

One 6 year term instead of two four year terms starting in 1952:

34. Dwight Eisenhower / Richard Nixon (Republican): 1953-1959
35. Lyndon Johnson / John F. Kennedy (Democratic): 1959-1965
36. John F. Kennedy / Pat Brown (Democratic): 1965-1971
37. George Romney / John Tower (Republican): 1971-1977
38. Henry Jackson / Reubin Askew (Democratic): 1977-1983
39. Howard Baker / Pete du Pont (Republican): 1983-1989
40. Pete du Pont / George Bush (Republican): 1989-1995
41. Joe Biden / Al Gore (Democratic): 1995-2001
42. Al Gore / John Kerry (Democratic): 2001-2007
43. John McCain / George Allen (Republican): 2007-2013
44. Barack Obama / Jim Webb (Democratic): 2013-2019
45. Jim Webb / Amy Klobuchar (Democratic): 2019-2023
46. Nikki Haley / Rob Portman (Republican): 2023-(Incumbent)

Why would Jim Webb's term be four years? A typo?

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« Reply #1365 on: June 19, 2023, 10:09:02 AM »

A World without Baby Boomers

40.  Ronald Reagan (R-CA) /George H.W. Bush (R-TX); 1981-1989
41.  George H.W. Bush (R-TX) / Dan Quayle (R-IN); 1989-1997
42.  Bob Graham (D-FL) / Dick Gephardt (D-MO); 1997-2001
43.  John McCain (R-AZ) / Christine Todd Whitman (R-NJ); 2001-2009
44.  Joe Biden (D-DE)    / Tim Kaine (D-VA); 2009-2017
45.  Rudy Giuliani (R-NY) / Tim Scott (R-SC); 2017-2021
46.  Bernie Sanders (D-VT) / Ro Khanna (D-CA); 2021-present

*The youngest president in this timeline is Rudy Giuliani (b. 1944), meaning that no members of the "Baby Boom" generation (1946-64) or younger have ever been elected. 
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« Reply #1366 on: June 27, 2023, 03:10:12 PM »

25.William McKinley(REP-OH),1897 - 1901, Assassinated
26.Theodore Roosevelt(REP-NY),1901 - 1909
27.William H. Taft(REP-OH),1909 - 1913
28.Woodrow Wilson(DEM-NJ),1913 - 1917
29.Theodore Roosevelt(REP-NY),1917 - 1925
30.Leonard Wood(REP-MA),1925 - 1927, Died of natural causes
31.Frank Orren Lowden(REP-IL),1927 - 1928
(N/A-IL),1928 - 1929
32.William H. Murray(DEM-OK),1933 - 1937, Impeached
Alben W. Barkley(DEM-KY),1937, Acting President as Senate PPT
34.Franklin D. Roosevelt(NDP-NY),1937 - 1945
35.Fiorello La Guardia(NDP-NY),1945 - 1947, Died of natural causes
36.Henry A. Wallace(NDP-IA),1947 - 1949
37.Thomas E. Dewey(REP-NY),1949 - 1953
38.Dwight D. Eisenhower(N/A-KS),1953 - 1961
39.Earl Warren(LIB-CA),1961 - 1969
40.Robert F. Kennedy(LIB-MA),1969 - 1977
41.Andrew Young(NAT-GA),1977 - 1981
42.Joe Biden(LIB-DE),1981 - 1989
43.Bernie Sanders(NAT-VT),1989 - 1993
44.Joe Biden(LIB-DE),1993 - 2001
45.Andrew Young(NAT-GA),2001 - 2009
46.Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.(LIB-CA),2009 - 2013
47.Elizabeth Warren(PPL-MA),2013 - present
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« Reply #1367 on: July 26, 2023, 11:13:28 AM »

If Italy had become a presidential Republic (two-round elections):

1948 - 1954 Alcide De Gasperi (DC)
Elected in 1948
Re-elected in 1953
Died in 1954

1954 - 1963 Mario Scelba (DC)
Ascended from the Vice Presidency in 1954
Re-elected in 1958
Retired in 1963

1963 - 1973 Aldo Moro (DC)
Elected in 1963
Re-elected in 1968
Retired in 1973

1973 - 1978 Giovanni Leone (DC)
Elected in 1973
Retired in 1978
Resigned in 1978 before the election

1978 Giacomo Mancini (PSI)
Ascended from the Vice Presidency in 1978
Retired in 1978

1978 - 1983 Francesco Cossiga (DC)
Elected in 1978
Not renominated in 1983

1983 - 1992 Bettino Craxi (PSI) [endorsed by DC et al.]
Elected in 1983
Re-elected in 1988
Resigned in 1992

1992 - 1993 Arnaldo Forlani (DC)
Ascended from the Vice Presidency in 1992
Retired in 1993

1993 - 1998 Silvio Berlusconi (Ind.)
Elected in 1993
Defeated in 1998

1998 - 2003 Massimo D'Alema (DS)
Elected in 1998
Defeated in 2003

2003 - 2008 Massimo Rutelli (DL)
Elected in 2003
Defeated in 2008

2008 - 2011 Silvio Berlusconi (Forza Italia)
Elected in 2008
Resigned in 2011

2011 - 2013 Roberto Maroni (Lega)
Ascended from the Vice Presidency in 2011
Defeated in 2013

2013 - 2018 Pier Luigi Bersani (PD)
Elected in 2013
Not renominated in 2018

2018 - 2023 Luigi Di Maio (M5S)
Elected in 2018
Not renominated in 2023

I just remembered this fun silly timeline I had made almost three years ago... let me add an update because why not (will I return to this in 2028? who knows).

2023 - Giorgia Meloni (FdI)
Elected in 2023
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« Reply #1368 on: July 27, 2023, 10:16:40 PM »
« Edited: July 27, 2023, 10:23:20 PM by brucejoel99 »

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt/John Nance Garner Mar. 4, 1933 - Jan. 20, 1941, Henry A. Wallace Jan. 20, 1941 - Apr. 12, 1945
33. Henry A. Wallace/vacant Apr. 12, 1945 - Jan. 20, 1949, Claude Pepper Jan. 20, 1949 - Jan. 20, 1953
34. Robert A. Taft/William F. Knowland Jan. 20, 1953 - Apr. 26, 1953
35. William F. Knowland/vacant Apr. 26, 1953 - Jan. 20, 1957, Harold E. Stassen Jan. 20, 1957 - Jan. 20, 1961
36. Adlai E. Stevenson II/Hubert H. Humphrey Jan. 20, 1961 - Apr. 18, 1963
37. Hubert H. Humphrey/vacant Apr. 18, 1963 - Jan. 20, 1965, Abraham Ribicoff Jan. 20, 1965 - Aug. 31, 1970
38. Abraham Ribicoff/vacant Aug. 31, 1970 - Jan. 20, 1973
39. Ronald Reagan/Jim Rhodes Jan. 20, 1973 - Jan. 20, 1981
40. Jimmy Carter/John Glenn Jan. 20, 1981 - Jan. 20, 1985 (*Acting President Glenn: Mar. 30-31, 1981)
41. Bob Dole/Jack Kemp Jan. 20, 1985 - Jan. 20, 1993
42. Al Gore/Bob Graham Jan. 20, 1993 - Jan. 20, 2001
43. Bob Graham/John Kerry Jan. 20, 2001 - Jan. 20, 2009
44. Rudy Giuliani*/Mitt Romney Jan. 20, 2009 - Apr. 1, 2011
45. Mitt Romney/vacant Apr. 1, 2011 - Aug. 11, 2011, John Thune Aug. 11, 2011 - Jan. 20, 2013
46. Joe Biden/Carol Moseley Braun Jan. 20, 2013 - Jan. 20, 2021
47. Chris Christie/Susan Brooks Jan. 20, 2021 - present

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« Reply #1369 on: July 30, 2023, 09:03:02 PM »
« Edited: August 16, 2023, 06:48:20 PM by brucejoel99 »

15. James Buchanan (D-PA): March 4, 1857 - March 4, 1861 / VP John C. Breckinridge (D-KY)
–. Abraham Lincoln (R-IL): Never took officeAssassinated on Feb. 23, 1861 / VP Hannibal Hamlin (R-ME)
16. Hannibal Hamlin (R-ME): March 4, 1861 - March 4, 1869 / VP Henry Wilson (R-MA): March 4, 1865 - March 4, 1869
17. Benjamin Wade (R-OH): March 4, 1869 - March 4, 1877 / VP Schuyler Colfax (R-IN)
18. Ulysses S. Grant (R-OH): March 4, 1877 - March 4, 1885 / VP Elihu B. Washburne (R-IL)
19. Samuel J. Tilden (Liberal-NY): March 4, 1885 - August 4, 1886Died / VP Lyman Trumbull (L-IL)
20. Lyman Trumbull (L-IL): August 4, 1886 - March 4, 1889
21. Robert Todd Lincoln (R-IL): March 4, 1889 - March 4, 1897 / VP John Sherman (R-OH)
22. William Jennings Bryan (Populist-NE): March 4, 1897 - March 4, 1905 / VP Adlai Stevenson I (P-IL)
23. Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY): March 4, 1905 - January 6, 1919Died / VP William Howard Taft (R-OH): March 4, 1905 - March 4, 1913; VP Leonard Wood (R-MA): March 4, 1913 - January 6, 1919
24. Leonard Wood (R-MA): January 6, 1919 - March 4, 1921
25. George W. Norris (P-NE): March 4, 1921 - March 4, 1929 / VP Oscar Underwood (P-AL): Mar. 4, 1921 - Jan. 25, 1929Died
26. Calvin Coolidge (R-MA): March 4, 1929 - January 5, 1933Died / VP Herbert Hoover (R-IA)
27. Herbert Hoover (R-IA): January 5, 1933 - March 4, 1933
28. James H. Maurer (People's-PA): March 4, 1933 - January 20, 1941 / VP Huey Long (P-LA)
29. Huey Long (P-LA): January 20, 1941 - December 1, 1943Assassinated / VP Bob La Follette Jr. (P-WI)
30. Bob La Follette Jr. (P-WI): December 1, 1943 - January 20, 1949 / VP Lewis Douglas (P-AZ): Jan. 20, 1945 - Jan. 20, 1949
31. Robert A. Taft (R-OH): January 20, 1949 - April 26, 1951Died / VP Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-MA)
32. Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-MA): April 26, 1951 - January 20, 1953
33. Alben Barkley (P-KY): January 20, 1953 - September 10, 1954Died / VP Estes Kefauver (P-TN)
34. Estes Kefauver (P-TN): September 10, 1954 - January 20, 1957
35. Richard Nixon (R-CA): January 20, 1957 - January 20, 1961 / VP Joe McCarthy (R-WI): Jan. 20, 1957 - Mar. 8, 1960Died
36. George Wallace (P-AL): January 20, 1961 - January 20, 1969 / VP George Smathers (P-FL)
37. Hubert H. Humphrey (P-MN): January 20, 1969 - July 18, 1973Died / VP George McGovern (P-SD)
38. George McGovern (P-SD): July 18, 1973 - January 20, 1977 / VP Fred R. Harris (P-OK): Sept. 13, 1973 - Jan. 20, 1977
39. George H.W. Bush (R-TX): January 20, 1977 - January 20, 1985 / VP Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL)
40. Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL): January 20, 1985 - January 20, 1993 / VP Al Haig (R-PA)
41. Joe Biden (P-DE): January 20, 1993 - January 20, 2001 / VP Ann Richards (P-TX)
42. Ann Richards (P-TX): January 20, 2001 - November 16, 2003Died / VP Al Gore (P-TN)
43. Al Gore (P-TN): November 16, 2003 - January 20, 2005 / VP Dick Gephardt (P-MO): Mar. 25, 2004 - Jan. 20, 2005
44. John McCain (R-AZ): January 20, 2005 - November 7, 2011Died / VP John Boehner (R-OH)
45. John Boehner (R-OH): November 7, 2011 - January 20, 2017 / VP Lindsey Graham (R-SC): Mar. 22, 2012 - Jan. 20, 2017
46. Jon Tester (P-MT): January 20, 2017 - present / VP Marcia Fudge (P-OH)
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« Reply #1370 on: August 03, 2023, 11:37:05 PM »

Headcanon of a recent game of Red World for HOI4 I played (with a self insert because *of course* Tongue  NOTE this is a work of fiction and alternate history that obviously does not fully reflect the views of those involved in it, nor my own, especially regarding the fates of those involved)

Presidents of the American People's Commonwealth:

Noam Chomsky (IWW): 1988-2011*
Bernie Sanders (Socialist): 2011-2012

Supreme Leaders of the Greater American Union:
Bernie Sanders (Socialist-Loyalists): 2012-2017†**
Jeff Mackler (Socialist-Loyalists): 2017-2020†***
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (Socialist-Moderates): 2020-2022****
Richard Ojeda (Socialist-Loyalists/Militarist): 2022-2029†*****
None (Power struggle and Pseudo-civil war): 2029-2030******
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (Socialist-Moderates): 2030-2033

Prime Ministers of the American Union:
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (Democratic Socialist Freedom | Majority Government): 2033-2037
?? (American Future - Democratic Socialist Freedom | Coalition Government): 2037-???


*Unseated in special presidential election in the Central Committee.
**Died of heart attack
***Assassinated by Mexican Nationalists during a speech
****Deposed by militarists and Sanders loyalists/hardliners after her attempts to dismantle the cult of personality and other anti-totalitarian, pro-demilitarization measures
*****Died in the COVID-29 pandemic
******Although no true civil war occurred, the power struggle is sometimes called as such due to political assassinations, violence, etc being used to tip scales one way or another. Eventually the leader of the Loyalists/Hardliners, Cenk Uygur, was killed in a plane crash after being "mistakenly" diverted into the eyewall of a hurricane rather than around it, during a flight from Mexico City to Philadelphia.

The meteorologist responsible for this was not known until after AOC's reforms finally went into effect, at which point he revealed himself publicly at an event held by AOC. He formed the American Future Party and went on to expose many of the atrocities done under the Sanders regime, including proof that the May Day attacks and the assassination of Bill Gates were done under Sanders' orders. This gave him and his fledgling party major recognition which translated into a victory in the 2037 Parliamentary Elections.
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« Reply #1371 on: August 27, 2023, 09:21:00 PM »

PRESIDENTS, VICE PRESIDENTS, AND ELECTIONS OF "THE HARSH PEACE" (1945-2029)

32. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (D-NY) [March 4th, 1933-April 12th, 1945]*
VP(s) : John Nance Garner (D-TX) [March 4th, 1933-January 20th, 1941] {32}; Henry Agard Wallace (D-IA) [January 20th, 1941-January 20th, 1945] {33}; Harry S. Truman (D-MO) [January 20th-April 12th, 1945] {34}

1932 : Governor Franklin Delano Roosevelt Sr. (D-NY)/Speaker of the United States House of Representatives John Nance Garner (D-TX) def. President of the United States Herbert Clark Hoover (R-CA)/Vice President of the United States Charles Curtis (R-KS)

1936 : President of the United States Franklin Delano Roosevelt Sr. (D-NY)/Vice President of the United States John Nance Garner (D-TX) def. Governor Alfred Mossman Landon (R-KS)/Newspaper Publisher William Franklin Knox (R-IL)

1940 : President of the United States Franklin Delano Roosevelt Sr. (D-NY)/United States Secretary of Agriculture Henry Agard Wallace (D-IA) def. President of Commonwealth & Southern Wendell Lewis Willkie (R-NY)/Minority Leader of the United States Senate Charles Linza McNary (R-OR)

1944 : President of the United States Franklin Delano Roosevelt Sr. (D-NY)/United States Senator Harry S. Truman (D-MO) def. Governor Thomas Edmund Dewey (R-NY)/Governor John William Bricker (R-OH)

33. Harry S. Truman (D-MO) [April 12th-July 1st, 1945]**
VP : Vacant (April 12th-July 1st, 1945)

34. Henry Morgenthau Jr. (D-NY) [July 1st, 1945-January 5th, 1947]**/*
VP : Vacant (July 1st, 1945-January 5th, 1947)

35. Harry Dexter White (D-NY) [January 5th-September 7th, 1947]**/**
VP : Vacant (January 5th-September 7th, 1947)

36. Henry Agard Wallace (D-NY) [September 7th, 1947-January 9th, 1948]**/**/*
VP : Vacant (September 7th, 1947-January 9th, 1948)

37. Dwight David “Ike” Eisenhower (I-KS) [January 9th-May 21st, 1948]**/**/**
VP : Vacant (January 9th-May 21st, 1948)

38. George Catlett Marshall, Jr. (I-NY) [May 21st, 1948-January 20th, 1949]
VP : Vacant (May 21st, 1948-January 20th, 1949)

39. Douglas MacArthur (R-AR) [January 20th, 1949-June 25th, 1951]**/**/**/*
VP : Robert Alphonse Taft Sr. (R-OH) [January 20th, 1949-June 25th, 1951] {35}

1948 : General of the Army Douglas MacArthur (R-AR)/United States Senator Robert Alphonse Taft Sr. (R-OH) def. Former United States Ambassador to the Philippines Paul Vories McNutt (D-IN)/Businessman and Former First Son James Roosevelt II (D-CA)

40. Robert Alphonse Taft Sr. (R-OH) [June 25th, 1951-January 20th, 1953]
VP : Vacant (June 25th, 1951-January 20th, 1953)

41. Walter Elias Disney (R-CA) [January 20th, 1953-January 20th, 1961]
VP : William Elias Jenner (R-IN) [January 20th, 1953-January 20th, 1961] {36}

1952 : Businessman Walter Elias Disney (R-CA)/United States Senator William Ezra Jenner (R-IN) def. Former United States Ambassador to the Soviet Union William Averell Harriman (D-NY)/Minority Leader of the United States Senate Alben William Barkley (D-KY)

1956 : President of the United States Walter Elias Disney (R-CA)/Vice President of the United States William Ezra Jenner (R-IN) def. Governor Adlai Ewing Stevenson II (D-IL)/United States Senator Albert Arnold Gore Sr. (D-TN)

42. Lyndon Baines Johnson (D-TX) [January 20th, 1961-March 23rd, 1963]**/**/**/**
VP : Henry Martin “Scoop” Jackson (D-WA) [January 20th, 1961-March 23rd, 1963] {37}

1960 : Governor Lyndon Baines Johnson (D-TX)/United States Senator Henry Martin “Scoop” Jackson (D-WA) def. Vice President of the United States William Ezra Jenner (R-IN)/United States Senator Richard Milhous Nixon (R-CA)

43. Henry Martin “Scoop” Jackson (D-WA) [March 23rd, 1963-January 20th, 1969]
VP : Vacant (March 23rd, 1963-January 20th, 1965); John Fitzgerald Kennedy Sr. (D-MA) [January 20th, 1965-January 20th, 1969] {38}

1964 : President of the United States Henry Martin “Scoop” Jackson (D-WA)/United States Senator John Fitzgerald Kennedy Sr. (D-MA) def. United States Senator and 1964 Vice Presidential Nominee Richard Milhous Nixon (R-CA)/United States Senator Edward William Brooke III (R-MA)

44. Walter Ezrea Jenner (R-IN) [January 20th, 1969-January 20th, 1977]
VP : Barry Morris Goldwater (R-AZ) [January 20th, 1969-January 20th, 1977] {39}

1968 : Former Vice President of the United States, 1960 Presidential Nominee, and United States Senator William Ezra Jenner (R-IN)/United States Senator Barry Morris Goldwater Sr. (R-AZ) def. President of the United States Henry Martin “Scoop” Jackson (D-WA)/Vice President of the United States John Fitzgerald Kennedy Sr. (D-MA)

1972 : President of the United States William Ezra Jenner (R-IN)/Vice President of the United States Barry Morris Goldwater Sr. (R-AZ) def. United States Senator George Stanley McGovern (D-SD)/United States Senator Thomas Francis Eagleton (D-MO)

45. Ernest Frederick “Fritz” Hollings (D-SC) [January 20th, 1977-January 20th, 1981]
VP : Frank Forrester Church III (D-ID) [January 20th, 1977-January 20th, 1981] {40}

1976 : United States Senator Ernest Frederick “Fritz” Hollings (D-SC)/United States Senator Frank Forrester Church III (D-ID) def. Vice President of the United States Barry Morris Goldwater Sr. (R-AZ)/United States Senator James Lane Buckley (R-NY)

46. James Maitland "Jimmy" Stewart (R-CA) [January 20th-May 30th, 1981]**/**/**/**/*
VP : Patrick Joseph Buchanan (R-VA) [January 20th-May 30th, 1981] {41}

1980 : Governor James Maitland “Jimmy” Stewart (R-CA)/United States Senator Patrick Joseph Buchanan (R-VA) def. President of the United States Ernest Frederick “Fritz” Hollings (D-SC)/Vice President of the United States Frank Forrester Church III (D-ID)

47. Patrick Joseph Buchanan (R-VA) [May 30th, 1981-January 20th, 1989]
VP : Vacant (May 30th, 1981-January 20th, 1985); Phillip Miller Crane (R-IL) [January 20th, 1985-January 20th, 1989] {42}

1984 : President of the United States Patrick Joseph Buchanan (R-VA)/Speaker of the United States House of Representative Phillip Miller Crane (R-IL) def. Mayor Jesse Louis Jackson (D-IL)/United States Representative Harvey Bernard Milk (D-CA)

47. Richard Andrew Gephardt (D-MO) [January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1993]
VP : John Herschel Glenn Jr. (D-OH) [January 20th, 1977-January 20th, 1981] {43}

1988 : Minority Leader in the United States House of Representatives Richard Andrew Gephardt (D-MO)/United States Senator John Herschel Glenn Jr. (D-OH) def. Vice President of the United States Phillip Miller Crane (R-IL)/United States Senator Peter Barton Wilson (R-CA)

48. Donald John Trump Sr. (A-NY) [January 20th, 1993-January 20th, 2001]
VP : Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III (A-AL) [January 20th, 1993-January 20th, 2001] {45}

1992 : Businessman Donald John Trump Sr. (A-NY)/United States Senator Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III (A-AL) def. President of the United States Richard Andrew Gephardt (D-MO)/Vice President of the United States John Herschel Glenn Jr. (D-OH) and Majority Leader of the United States Senate Robert Joseph Dole (R-KS)/Majority Leader of the United States House of Representatives Jack French Kemp (R-NY)

1996 : President of the United States Donald John Trump Sr. (A-NY)/Vice President of the United States Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III (A-AL) def. Former Vice President of the United States John Herschel Glenn Jr. (D-OH)/United States Senator Albert Arnold Gore Jr. (D-TN) and Former United States Representative and 1992 Vice Presidential Nominee Jack French Kemp (R-NY)/United States Senator Willard Mitt Romney (R-MA)

49. Joseph Isadore Lieberman (D-CT) [January 20th, 2001-May 17th, 2002]**/**/**/**/**
VP : Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. (D-DE) [January 20th, 2001-May 17th, 2002] {46}

2000 : United States Senator Joseph Isadore Lieberman (D-CT)/United States Senator Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. (D-DE) def. Vice President of the United States Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III (A-AL)/United States Senator Robert Walter Kasten Jr. (A-WI) and United States Senator John Sidney McCain III (R-AZ)/United States Representative Richard Bruce Cheney (R-WY)

50. Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. (D-DE) [May 17th, 2002-January 20th, 2005]
VP : Vacant (May 17th, 2002-January 20th, 2005)

51. John Robert Bolton (R-MD) [January 20th, 2005-January 20th, 2013]
VP : Paul Davis Ryan (R-WI) [January 20th, 2005-January 20th, 2013] {47}

2004 : United States Senator John Robert Bolton (R-MD)/Speaker of the United States House of Representatives Paul Davis Ryan (R-WI) def. United States Senator and 2000 Vice Presidential Nominee Robert Walter Kasten Jr. (A-WI)/United States Senator Richard John Santorum (A-PA) and President of the United States Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. (D-DE)/United States Senator and 1984 Vice Presidential Nominee Harvey Bernard Milk (D-CA)

2008 : President of the United States John Robert Bolton (R-MD)/Vice President of the United States Paul Davis Ryan (R-WI) def. United States Senator and 2004 Vice Presidential Nominee Richard John Santorum (A-PA)/United States Senator Christopher Brian McDaniel (A-MS) and Former President of the United States Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. (D-DE)/Former United States Senator and 1984 and 2004 Vice Presidential Nominee Harvey Bernard Milk (D-CA)

52. Michael Thomas Flynn (A-CA) [January 20th, 2013-January 20th, 2021]
VP : Michael A. Vereb Sr. (A-PA) [January 20th, 2013-January 20th, 2021] {48}

2012 : General of the Army, Seven Star General, and Supreme Commander of the United Nations Armed Forces Michael Thomas Flynn (A-CA)/United States Senator Michael A. Vereb Sr. (A-PA) def. Governor Bernard Sanders (L-VT)/United States Representative John James Conyers Jr. (L-MI), Vice President of the United States Paul Davis Ryan (R-WI)/United States Senator John Eric Ensign (R-NV), and United States Senator Jason James Carter (D-GA)/United States Senator Johnny Reid Ensign (D-NC)

2016 : President of the United States Michael Thomas Flynn (A-RI)/Vice President of the United States Michael A. Vereb Sr. (A-PA) def. Governor Bernard Sanders (L-VT)/United States Representative Danny K. Davis. (L-IL) and United States Senator and 2012 Presidential Nominee Jason James Carter (D-GA)/United States Senator John Forbes Kerry (D-MA)

53. Bernard Sanders (L-VT) [January 20th, 2021-August 27th, 1963]**/**/**/**/**/*
VP : Jeffrey Alan Merkley (L-OR) [January 20th, 2021-August 27th, 2023] {49}

2020 : Governor Bernard Sanders (L-VT)/United States Senator Jeffrey Alan Merkley (L-OR) def. Vice President of the United States Michael A. Vereb Sr. (A-PA)/United States Senator Blake Gates Masters (A-AZ)

54. Jeffrey Alan Merkley (L-OR) [August 27th, 2023-January 20th, 2029]
VP : Vacant (August 27th, 2023-January 20th, 2025); Christopher Scott Murphy (L-CT) [January 20th, 2025-January 20th, 2029] {50}

2024 : President of the United States Jeffrey Alan Merkley (L-OR)/United States Senator Christopher Scott Murphy (L-CT) def. United States Senator Matthew Louis Gaetz II (A-FL)/United States Senator Thomas Bryant Cotton (A-AR)

55. Joshua David Hawley (A-MO) [January 20th, 2029-Present]
VP : James David Vance (A-OH) [January 20th, 2029-Present] {51}

2028 : United States Senator Joshua David Hawley (A-MO)/United States SenatorJames David Vance (A-OH) def. President of the United States Jeffrey Alan Merkley (L-OR)/Vice President of the United States Christopher Scott Murphy (L-CT)

*, **, **/**/**, **/**/**/* - Died of a heart attack, Succeeded by Vice President (FDR & MacArthur), Secretary of the Treasury (Truman), and Secretary of State (Eisenhower); Clark and Taft would not run for Terms of their own, as Clark is uninterested in Politics and Taft is revealed to be dying from Cancer

**/*, **/*, & **/** - Impeached and Removed from Offices; Succeeded by Secretary of the Treasury (Morgenthau) and Secretary of State (White and Wallace), Go to **/**/** to see what happened with Eisenhower

**/**/**/**, **/**/**/**/*, and **/**/**/**/** - Assassinated, Succeeded by Vice President (Johnson, Stewart, and Lieberman)

**/**/**/**/**/* - Died of a Stroke, Succeeded by Vice President (Sanders)

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« Reply #1372 on: August 27, 2023, 10:40:42 PM »

US UK mirror universe with 2-term limits from the get go

1. George Washington 1789-1797
2. John Adams 1797-1805
3. Charles Pickney 1805-1813
4. DeWitt Clinton 1813-1821
5. Rufus King 1821-1827*
6. John Howard* 1827
7. John Taylor ** 1827-1828
8. Andrew Stevenson** 1828-1829
9. John Quincy Adams 1829-1833
10. Andrew Jackson 1833-1841
11. William Henry Harrison* 1841
12. John Taylor** 1841-1845
13. Henry Clay 1845-1853
14. Winfield Scott 1853-1857
15. James Buchanan 1857-1865 (Last president born in the 18th century)
16. John Breckinridge 1865-1873 (First president born in the 19th century)
17. Rutherford Hayes 1873-1881
18. Winfield Hancock 1881-1886*
19. William English** 1886-1889
20. Benjamin Harrison 1889-1897
21. Levi Morton 1897-1901* (First president to be assassinated)
22. William McKinley 1901-1905**
23. Alton Parker 1905-1913
24. Woodrow Wilson 1913-1917
25. Charles Hughes 1917-1925
26. Herbert Hoover 1925-1929
27. Al Smith 1929-1933
28. Alfred Landon 1933-1941
29. Frank Knox 1941-1944*
30. Charles Dawes 1944-1945**
31. Harry Truman 1945-1953
32. Dwight Eisenhower 1953-1961 (Last president born in the 19th century)
33. Richard Nixon 1961-1963* (First president born in the 20th century)
34. Henry Cabot Lodge 1963-1965**
35. Lyndon Johnson 1965-1969
36. Hubert Humphrey 1969-1973
37. Nelson Rockefeller 1973-1977
38. Jimmy Carter 1977-1981
39. Ronald Reagan 1981-1989
40. George H.W. Bush 1989-1997
41. Al Gore 1997-2005
42. Joe Lieberman 2005-2013
43. Mitt Romney 2013-2021
44. Paul Ryan 2021-

*dies in office
** Interim president

Interesting enough there seemed to be some sort of modified Tecumseh curse where the president that's elected in a year ending in 0 dies in office but incumbents aren't effected. Of course Reagan breaks that streak like IOTL.
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« Reply #1373 on: September 08, 2023, 03:17:27 PM »
« Edited: September 09, 2023, 09:36:44 AM by KaiserDave »

I made this a long time ago and made an abortive timeline about it, reposting with revisions.

I think this makes it significantly more sensible and less haphazard. I will add that the American flag is probably different, but I'm too lazy to come up with a replacement. Probably one single star instead of 50, or 13 stars.

Presidents of the United States
George Washington (Independent) 1789-1797
Thomas Jefferson (Republican) 1797-1799 [1]
John Adams (Federalist) 1799 (Disputed)
Alexander Hamilton (Federalist) 1799-1804 [2]
First Citizens of the American Republic
Alexander Hamilton (Hamiltonian) 1804-1831
Alexander Hamilton II (Hamiltonian) 1831-1835 [3]
Winfield Scott (Military) 1835-1848 [4]
Presidents of the Confederation Congress of the Second American Republic
Charles Francis Adams (Republican) 1848-1852 [5]
William Henry Seward (Republican) 1852-1859 [6]

Presidents of the Third American Republic
Abraham Lincoln (Republican) 1859-1863
Salmon P. Chase (Republican) 1863-1867
Schuyler Colfax (Republican) 1867-1869 [7]

Samuel J. Tilden (Liberal Republican) 1869-1871
Thomas F. Bayard (Conservative) 1871-1875
James A. Garfield (Republican) 1875-1879
George F. Hoar (Liberal Republican) 1879-1883

Roscoe Conkling (Republican) 1883-1887
Charles Francis Adams Jr. (Liberal Republican) 1887-1891
S. Grover Cleveland (Liberal Republican) 1891-1895
Wilfred Laurier (Liberal Republican) 1895-1899
Mark A. Hanna (Republican) 1899-1902 [8]
Levi P. Morton (Republican) 1902-1903

John M. Hay (Progressive Republican) 1903-1907
Joseph Gurney Cannon (Republican) 1907-1911
Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive Republican) 1911-1915
Presidents of the Fourth American Republic
Charles Evan Hughes (Progressive Republican) 1915-1919 [9]
Robert La Follette (Popular Republican) 1919-1923
Burton K. Wheeler (American Labor) 1923-1927
Charles G. Dawes (Conservative Union) 1927-1931
Norman M. Thomas (American Labor) 1931-1933 [10]
George Van Horn Moseley (American Legion) 1933 (Disputed)
Huey P. Long (Long Labor) 1933-1937 [11]
Provisional President of the American Republic
George R. Pearkes (Independent) 1937
Presidents of the Fifth American Republic
Floyd B. Olson (Farmer-Labor) 1937-1942
Thomas C. Douglas (Farmer-Labor) 1942-1946
Thomas E. Dewey (National Union) 1946-1954
Presidents of the Sixth American Republic
Dwight D. Eisenhower (National Union) 1954-1958 [12]
Nelson A. Rockefeller (National Union) 1958-1966
Robert L. Stanfield (National Union) 1966-1970
Pierre E. Trudeau (Farmer-Labor) 1970-1974
Thomas F. Eagleton (Farmer-Labor) 1974-1982
Phillip M. Crane (Liberty) 1982-1990
Nancy Kassebaum (Liberty) 1990-1994
Paul Martin Jr. (Progressives) 1994-1998
Stockwell Day (Liberty) 1998-2002
Paul Wellstone (Socialist Labor) 2002-2010
Bernie Sanders (Socialist Labor) 2010-2018
Erin O'Toole (Progressive Conservative) 2018-Present

[1] The election of President Jefferson is greeted with instant hostility from the pro-Administration camp. Hamiltonian publications viciously attack the new Chief Magistrate as a Jacobin Atheist. Jefferson's efforts to embargo Britain lead to the Pickering Conspiracy, in which leading Federalists spread rumor (unclear to this day the truth involved) that Jefferson intends on an immediate course of war with Britain. In the culmination of the conspiracy, soldiers under the command of Colonel John Laurens arrest Jefferson and forcibly disassemble the Congress. John Adams becomes President, who gives way to Hamilton, his Secretary of State. It is debated upon whether Adams ever assumed the power of the Presidency. There were various disparate rebellions in this period, the most prominent was led by Aaron Burr in Illinois, but his forces were defeated and he was hanged.

[2] Hamilton consolidated near absolute control of the Federal government in the midst of the subsequent War with France. President Hamilton passed a strong Alien and Sedition Act, established a large standing army, and the long-sought National Bank.

By 1804, he had staffed the government and army with his own men. Hamilton successfully convened a new Constitutional Convention to "enshrine the rights of the wealthy", a constitution was written which declared himself First Citizen of the American Republic. Within a decade the states were abolished and replaced with administrative regions.

[3] Alexander Hamilton II was acclaimed by the Republic Cabinet as First Citizen, succeeding his father as head of the quasi-monarchical American government. He was ineffective however, and resentment was building against the Hamilton dynasty. The advanced and industrialized nation had a growing urban working class dissatisfied with the status quo, and what was left of the yeoman farmer was a constant enemy of the Hamiltonian order.  Hamilton badges were burned in private, and revolutionaries began to gather arms and correspond. In 1835, spontaneous riots boiled over into armed insurrection. The army, seeking an end to the violence swept in and bloodlessly removed Hamilton, who fled into an English exile.


[4] Winfield Scott presided over a military dictatorship as First Citizen. He inherited the Hamiltonian order with only superficial changes. He led a successful war against Mexico to acquire the west, and further industrialized. However, the radical 1848 revolutions of Europe spread across the Atlantic, and liberal and nationalist agitators in America, reading of the events of Europe, began inciting violence in the United States. The riots evolved into a revolution of the masses (powered by many new immigrant workers to support the booming textile industry), as just in France, the old order tumbled down. Scott resigned and fled to Canada (and subsequently to Britain).
 
[5] After the immediate period of revolutionary turmoil, moderate liberals led by Charles Francis Adams established a new provisional government. The most immediate task of the new government became addressing simultaneous republican revolts also occurred in Canada however, known as the "Patriots' War" in which Louis-Joseph Papineau declared the Republic of Canada, encompassing most of Lower Canada. In Upper Canada, William Lyon Mackenzie launched his own Republic. The British Army threatened to overrun both, but an American Republican Army led by General Zachary Taylor drove the British out Lower and Upper Canada. The subsequent Second Anglo-American War resulted in further chaos which nearly strangled the new Republic in its crib, but ultimately America secured all of British North America, at the cost of Caribbean territories and loss of life.

The new constitution drafted by the Confederation Congress placed new checks on executive power, a single term limit, and a new constitution which provided for the election of a unicameral legislature which would in turn elect the President. The extensive property requirements to vote of the old order were replaced with a poll tax, expanding the franchise to the growing middle class.


[6] Outrage across the south as avowedly anti-slavery liberal William Henry Seward was elected President of the Confederation Congress. After a tenuous first year, states began seceding from the union in opposition to Seward's opposition to the expansion of slavery. A great Civil War had begun. The war dragged on for years, including great civil strife in the north from anti-war mobs opposed to emancipating slaves. But Seward skillfully managed to hold on to middle class and military support, and after an extraordinary term extension and six years of war, the war is won and slavery is abolished. A new constitution, recognizing the radical new post war reality is adopted after the peace is concluded and reconstruction commences. The new constitution has a slightly more powerful executive, but continues the indirect election system, black men who can pay a poll tax are granted the vote.

[7] President Colfax is removed after the Crιdit Mobilier fraud scandal leading to a backlash among anti corruption Republicans, led by Samuel Tilden and called the Liberal Republicans.

[8] President Hanna is shot and killed by an Italian anarchist. His death represents widespread public anger and misery over the extensive inequalities of the Gilded Age, this includes a growing and increasingly militant socialist and labor current, as well as the new reform minded Progressive Republicans.

[9] On the verge of violence, President Hughes makes an informal bargain with labor leaders in 1916 that he will implement universal male suffrage if they abstain from agitating against US intervention in the Great War. After the war is won, Hughes makes good on his promise and establishes the Fourth Republic. This leads to Popular Republicans led Robert La Follette smashing the establishment with a landslide 1918 victory.

[10] President Norman Thomas, elected amidst economic calamity comes into office with a radical agenda of massive expansion of government powers, extensive economic regulation and intervention, and government planning. He also eases immigration, and proposes broad civil and individual rights protections.

Thomas's socialist and pacifist ideology is unacceptable to the business and finance class, who plan and attempt a putsch composed of conservative veterans organizations and soldiers headed by right wing General George Van Horn Moseley. President Thomas is (mistakenly) shot and killed during the chaos. Moseley is declared Provisional President, but this presidency is not recognized as legal, legitimate, or practically in effect. Louisiana firebrand and congressman Huey Long gathers an angry mob in D.C. to avenge President Thomas and stop the coup. With the support of armed workers and after brief violence, the putschists stand down and Huey Long is elected President.

[11] President Long uses his political skill and muscle and his fanatically loyal support among the common people to establish personal rule over the Republic. He implements a radical redistribution agenda and uses a combination of bribes, threats, and acts of violence to maintain power. His cronyist and corrupt agenda fails to solve the crisis however. He is later assassinated by an enraged gunman in 1937. Despite fears of a violent power struggle, the Army installs an emergency government led by Major-General George Pearkes by fiat, which is largely accepted by all to avoid chaos. There is sporadic street violence by Longist partisans which achieves nothing. Left-wing congressman and previously a regional administrator Floyd Olson is subsequently elected President on a conciliatory platform. After a few years of Olson restoring calm, civility, and eliminating Long's autocratic norms, Japan strikes Pearl Harbor and America goes to war.

[12] During the Dewey and Eisenhower administrations, constitutional changes are adapted to preserve the Republic and maintain stability. These changes establish stronger protections for individual freedoms, establish a two term limit instead of one, establishes citizenship for all children born to citizens, and establish an affirmative right to vote, and most importantly the direct popular vote election of the President, with the separation of the executive and legislative branches.









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« Reply #1374 on: September 09, 2023, 01:18:23 AM »

PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES:
44. John McCain/Mike Huckabee (R) - January 20, 2009 - January 20, 2013
'08 - def. John Edwards - 285-253 EV/ 47.8%-50.9% PV
45. Bernie Sanders/Barack Obama (D) - January 20, 2013 - April 5, 2014
'12 - def. John McCain - 396-142 EV/ 55.7%-42.9% PV
46. Barack Obama/VACANT (D) - April 5, 2014 - July 1, 2014
46. Barack Obama/Russ Feingold (D) - July 1, 2014 - January 20, 2021
'16 - def. Paul Ryan - 431-107 EV/ 56.5%-42.5% PV
47. Charlie Baker/Mia Love (R) - January 20, 2021 - Incumbent
'20 - def. Jane Sanders - 280-258 EV/ 46.4%-48.0% PV

US SENATE BREAKDOWN:
2009-2011: 59D-41R (61D-39R by end of session)
2011-2013: 73D-27R
2013-2015: 76D-24R
2015-2017: 74D-26R
2017-2019: 66D-36R
2019-2021: 61D-43R
2021-2023: 58D-42R
2023-2025: 60D-40R

US HOUSE BREAKDOWN:
2009-2011: 249D-186R
2011-2013: 311D-124R
2013-2015: 308D-127R
2015-2017: 270D-165R
2017-2019: 264D-171R
2019-2021: 232D-203R
2021-2023: 222D-213R
2023-2025: 251D-184R

PRIME MINISTERS OF THE UNITED KINGDOM:
Gordon Brown (LAB) - 27 June 2007 - 19 July 2013
'10 - Won 281 Seats/30.86% (LIB S&C, 63 Seats)
Ed Miliband (LAB) - 19 July 2013 - 19 October 2015
Zac Goldsmith (CON) - 19 October 2015 - 14 December 2019
'15 - Won 305 Seats/32.90% (LIB S&C, 22 Seats)
Jeremy Corbyn (LAB) - 14 December 2019 - 5 July 2020
'19 - Won 329 Seats/31.55%
David Lammy (LAB) - 5 July 2020 - Present
'21 - Won 360 Seats/39.57%

PRESIDENTS OF FRANCE:
Nicolas Sarkozy (UMP) - 16 May 2007 - 19 September 2014
'12 - def. Francois Hollande - 50.44%-49.56%
Jean-Pierre Bel (PS) - 19 September 2014 - 28 November 2014
Marine Le Pen (RN) - 28 November 2014 - 20 March 2016
'14 - def. Francois Hollande - 50.27%-49.73%
Jean-Pierre Bel (PS) - 20 March 2016 - 25 May 2016
Marion Marechal (RN) - 25 May 2016 - 25 May 2021
'16 - def. Francois Fillon - 51.17%-48.83%
Yael Braun-Pivet (PDS) - 25 May 2021 - Incumbent
'21 - def. Marion Marechal - 57.35%-42.65%

PRIME MINISTERS OF FRANCE:
Francois Fillon (UMP) - 17 May 2007 - 28 December 2013
'12 - Presidential Majority - 291 Seats
Michele Alliot-Marie (UMP) - 28 December 2013 - 28 November 2014
Jerome Riviere (RN) - 28 November 2014 - 25 January 2020
'15 - Presidential Majority - 285 Seats
Jordan Bardella (RN) - 25 January 2020 - 17 March 2020
Manuel Valls (PDS) - 17 March 2020 - Incumbent
'20 - Alliance For The Salvation of The Republic - 328 Seats
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