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« Reply #1225 on: April 06, 2022, 04:09:51 AM »

LIBERAL DICTATORSHIP:

43. Al Gore (D): January 20, 2001-January 20, 2005
VP: Joe Lieberman (2001-2004)
-Dennis Hastert (R): January 20, 2005-March 16, 2005- (ACTING)
44. George W. Bush (R): March 16, 2005-January 20, 2009
VP: Dick Cheney (2005-2009)
45. Barack Obama (D): January 20, 2009-January 20, 2017
VP: Joe Biden (2009-2017)
46. Joe Biden (D): January 20, 2017-October 6, 2019
VP: Kirsten Gillibrand (2017-2019)
47. Kirsten Gillibrand (D): October 6, 2019-January 20, 2025
VP: Martin Heinrich (2019-2025)
48. Joe Radinovich (D): January 20, 2025-January 20, 2033
VP: Michelle Wu (2025-2033)
49. Michelle Wu (D): January 20, 2033-January 20, 2041
VP: Pete Buttigieg (2033-2041)
50. Stacey Abrams (D): January 20, 2041-January 20, 2045
VP: Pete Buttigieg (2033-2045)

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« Reply #1226 on: April 12, 2022, 08:36:55 AM »
« Edited: April 12, 2022, 07:19:09 PM by BigVic »

The curse of Tippecanoe makes a comeback

2001-2005: George W Bush/Dick Cheney
2005: Dick Cheney/vacant
2005-2009: Dick Cheney/Rudy Giuliani
2009-2017: Barack Obama/Joe Biden
2017-2025: Joe Biden/Elizabeth Warren
2025-2033: Ben Sasse/Beth Van Duyne
2033-37: Stacey Abrams/Jared Polis

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« Reply #1227 on: April 12, 2022, 06:10:45 PM »

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
1. George Washington (No party, Virginia) 1789–1797
2. John Adams (Federalist, Massachusetts) 1797–1801
3. Thomas Jefferson (Republican, Virginia) 1801–1809
4. James Madison (Republican, Virginia) 1809–1813

5. DeWitt Clinton (Fusion→National Republican, New York) 1813–1821
6. Andrew Jackson (Democratic Republican, Tennessee) 1821–1825
–. DeWitt Clinton (National Republican, New York) 1825–1828 †
7. Thomas Holdsworth Blake (National Republican, Indiana) 1828–1829

8. Marcus Morton (National Democratic, Massachusetts) 1829–1833
9. John Quincy Adams (Antimasonic→Liberal, Massachusetts) 1833–1841
10. William Henry Harrison (Conservative, Virginia) 1841–1842 †
11. Francis Granger (Conservative, New York) 1842–1845

12. William Henry Seward (Liberal, New York) 1845–1849
13. Daniel Webster (Conservative, Massachusetts) 1849–1852 †
14. William Alexander Graham (Conservative, North Carolina) 1852–1853

––. William Henry Seward (Liberal, New York) 1853–1861
15. Samuel Jones Tilden (Liberal Conservative, New York) 1861–1865
16. Lyman Trumbull (Liberal, Illinois) 1865–1873
17. Charles Francis Adams (Liberal, Massachusetts) 1873–1877

18. Zebulon Baird Vance (Conservative, North Carolina) 1877–1885
19. John Sherman (Liberal, Ohio) 1885–1889
20. William McKinley (Conservative, Ohio) 1889–1893
––. John Sherman (Liberal, Ohio) 1893–1897
––. William McKinley (Conservative, Ohio) 1897–1902 ‡
21. Thomas Brackett Reed (Conservative, Maine) 1902–1905

22. Alton Brooks Parker (Liberal, New York) 1905–1913
23. Thomas Woodrow Wilson (Liberal, New Jersey) 1913–1919 †
24. Thomas Riley Marshall (Liberal, Indiana) 1919–1921

25. Henry Cabot Lodge, Sr. (Conservative, Massachusetts) 1921–1924 †
26. James Eli Whitney (Conservative, Indiana) 1924–1925

27. Eugene Victor Debs (Socialist, Indiana) 1925–1926 †
28. Charles Solomon (Socialist, New York) 1926–1929

29. Herbert Clark Hoover (Conservative, California) 1929–1933
30. Norman Mattoon Thomas (Socialist→National, New York) 1933–1941
31. Wendell Lewis Willkie (National, Indiana) 1941–1944 †
32. Earl Warren (National, California) 1944–1949

33. John Dewey (Socialist, Vermont) 1940–1952
34. Eleanor Roosevelt (Socialist, New York) 1952–1957

35. Dwight David Eisenhower (Conservative, Pennsylvania) 1957–1962 †
36. Margaret Chase Smith (Conservative, Maine) 1962–1965

37. Hubert Horatio Humphrey (Socialist, Minnesota) 1965–1969
38. George Wilcken Romney (Conservative, Michigan) 1969–1973
––. Hubert Horatio Humphrey (Socialist, Minnesota) 1973–1977
39. Frank Paul Zeidler (Socialist, Wisconsin) 1977–1981

40. Ronald Wilson Reagan (Conservative, California) 1981–1990 †
41. James Lane Buckley (Conservative, New York) 1990–1993

42. Edmund Gerry Brown (Socialist, California) 1993–2001
43. John Sidney McCain (Conservative, Arizona) 2001–2009
44. Elizabeth Ann Warren (Socialist, Massachusetts) 2009–2013
45. Scott Philip Brown (Conservative, Massachusetts) 2013–2021
46. Bernard Sanders (Socialist, Vermont) 2021–present
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« Reply #1228 on: April 13, 2022, 12:59:08 AM »

George HW Bush (R): January 20, 1989-January 20, 1997
Al Gore (D): January 20, 1997-January 20, 2005
John Kerry (D): January 20, 2005-January 20, 2009
Mitt Romney (R): January 20, 2009-January 20, 2017
Barack Obama (D): January 20, 2017-December 22, 2019
Elizabeth Warren (D): December 22, 2019-January 20, 2021
Bill Weld (R): January 20, 2021-Present

1992:


1996:


2000:


2004:


2008:


2012:


2016:


2020:


GREATNESS RANKINGS (ACCOMPLISHMENTS):

1. Al Gore (1997-2005)
-(Medicare-For-Kids+OTL Obamacare, Infrastructure, Climate Stuff (Cap & Trade, Carbon Tax), Welfare (8 Weeks of Paid Parental leave, minimum wage increases), 90's economy)
2. Mitt Romney (2009-2017)
-(Tax Cuts (tax breaks for benefits program), De-Regulation, Foreign Policy)
3. Barack Obama (2017-2019)
-(Swiss-style UHC, college tuition caps, $13/hr minimum wage, pot decriminalization)
4. George HW Bush (1989-1997)
-(Foreign Policy, 90's economy, Bipartisanship)
5. Bill Weld (2021-Present)
-(Criminal justice reform- including cash bail abolition for most crimes, partial drug decriminalization, 10% cut in prisoners, abolition of the death penalty), Drug Reforms (pot legalization and taxation), Individual Rights (legislate Roe v. Wade, NSA abolition)
6. Elizabeth Warren (2019-2021)
-Literally Nothing
7. John Kerry (2005-2009)
-Literally Nothing

GREATNESS RANKINGS (LIKABILITY)

1. Barack Obama (Basically OTL except even more sympathy because of the assassination attempt. Think like Michelle level. And Michelle, well, she's even further up)
2. Al Gore (OTL Climate activism but is actually fondly remembered for the 90s economy)
3. Bill Weld (Decriminalized sh**t and did a bunch of individual rights protections)
4. George HW Bush (nice guy, also the foreign policy stuff)
5. John Kerry (did some activism after, particularly on international hunger)
6. Mitt Romney (standard mormon prejudice and also the flip-flopping)
7. Elizabeth Warren (Hillary 2.0, but does terribly while President)
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« Reply #1229 on: April 13, 2022, 08:47:49 PM »

6. John Calhoun: March 4, 1845-March 4, 1849
7. Robert Rhett: March 4, 1849-March 4, 1853
8. John Quitman: March 4, 1853-March 4, 1857
9. William Yancy: March 4, 1857-October 30, 1858
10. Louis Wigfall: October 30, 1858-March 4, 1861
11. John Breckenridge: March 4, 1861-March 4, 1865
12. Jefferson Davis: March 4, 1865-March 4, 1869

LEGITAMATE PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES:
13. James Garfield: March 4, 1869-April 15, 1869
-VACANT-: April 15, 1869-April 17, 1869
Abraham Lincoln (Acting): April 17, 1869-March 4, 1871
14. Abraham Lincoln: March 4, 1871-April 17, 1872

SOUTHERN PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES:
12. Jefferson Davis: March 4, 1865-April 17, 1872

PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES:
12. Jefferson Davis: March 4, 1865-March 4, 1877
13. Wade Hampton: March 4, 1877-March 4, 1881
14. Benjamin Tillman: March 4, 1881-October 10, 1916
15. James Vardaman: October 10, 1916-March 4, 1933
16. Huey Long: March 4, 1933-March 4, 1945
-VACANT-: March 4, 1945-May 18, 1945
17. Strom Thurmond: May 18, 1945-March 4, 1949
18. Huey Long: March 4, 1949-March 4, 1953
19. Strom Thurmond: March 4, 1953-March 4, 1961
20. Huey Long: March 4, 1961-May 4, 1962
21. Lyndon Johnson: May 4, 1962-March 4, 1973
22. Ronald Reagan: March 4, 1973-March 4, 1981
23. Mo Udall: March 4, 1981-March 4, 1985
24. Jerry Falwell: March 4, 1985-March 4, 1989
25. Bill Clinton: March 4, 1989-March 4, 2009
26. John McCain: March 4, 2009-April 1, 2009
27. Ted Cruz: April 1, 2009-Present

NOTE: 1872 Treaty of Paris:
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« Reply #1230 on: April 14, 2022, 10:34:04 AM »

Rise of the Socialist Party:
29.Charles E. Hughes(R-NY)(March,4,1917-March,4,1921)
30.Thomas R. Marshall(D-IN)(March,4,1921-June,1,1925)
31.John W. Davis(D-WV)(June,1,1925-March,4,1933)
32.Norman M. Thomas(S-NY)(March,4,1933-January,20,1941)
33.Henry A. Wallace(S-IA)(January,20,1941-January,20,1949)
34.John Sparkman(D-AL)(January,20,1949-January,20,1953)
35.C. Estes Kefauver(S-TN)(January,20,1953-January,20,1961)
36.Margret C. Smith(D-ME)(January,20,1961-January,20,1965)
37.Lyndon B. Johnston(S-TX)(January,20,1965-January,20,1969)
38.Robert F. Kennedy(S-NY)(January,20,1969-January,20,1977)
39.Ronald W. Reagan(D-CA)(January,20,1977-January,20,1981)
40.George S. McGovern(S-SD)(January,20,1981-January,20,1989)
41.Micheal Dukakis(S-MA)(January,20,1989-January,20,1997)
42.H. Ross Perot(I/Re-TX)(January,20,1997-January,20,2005)
43.Dick Cheney(D-WY)(January,20,2005-January,20,2009)
44.Mike Gravel(S-AK)(January,20,2009-January,20,2017)
45.Bernie Sanders(I/S-VT)(January,20,2017-January,20,2025)
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« Reply #1231 on: April 14, 2022, 02:24:22 PM »
« Edited: April 14, 2022, 06:17:02 PM by Ron Swanson »

Presidents of the United States:
George H.W. Bush (R): January 20, 1989-January 20, 1997
-Elected 1988 (314-224/50.3%-47.0%)
-Elected 1992 (279-259/47.2%-49.8%)
Ann Richards (D): January 20, 1997-January 20, 2005
-Elected 1996 (506-32/56.8%-38.8%)
-Elected 2000 (455-82/56.5%-37.9%)
Jon Huntsman Jr. (R): January 20, 2005-January 20, 2009
-Elected 2004 (274-264/48.2%-49.3%)
Barack Obama (D): January 20, 2009-January 20, 2017
-Elected 2008 (379-159/53.3%-44.8%)
-Elected 2012 (396-142/53.9%-43.3%)
John Kasich (R): January 20, 2017-Present
-Elected 2016 (302-236/48.9%-48.5%)
-Elected 2020 (275-263/47.0%-52.0%)

Governors of Texas:

Ann Richards (D): January 15, 1991-January 2, 1997
-Elected 1990 (51.4%-46.0%)
-Re-Elected 1994 (60.5%-35.9%)
-Resigned to become President
Bob Bullock (D): January 2, 1997-January 17, 1999
-Assumed Office
-Retired
Lloyd Doggett (D): January 17, 1999-January 14, 2003
-Elected 1998 (52.3%-47.5%)
-Lost Re-Election
George W. Bush (R): January 14, 2003-January 18, 2007
-Elected 2002 (50.0%-49.5%)
-Lost Re-Election
Al Green (D): January 18, 2007-January 16, 2011
-Elected 2006 (49.6%-49.4%)
-Retired
Rick Perry (R): January 16, 2011-January 16, 2015
-Elected 2010 (50.7%-48.7%)
-Retired to run unsuccessfully for the U.S. Senate
Greg Abbott (D): January 16, 2015-Present
-Elected 2014 (56.2%-42.8%)
-Re-Elected 2018 (49.9%-47.7%)

Governors of Georgia:

Zell Miller (D): January 20, 1991-January 18, 1999
-Elected 1990 (53.0%-44.2%)
-Elected 1994 (62.2%-36.2%)
-Term Limited
Roy Barnes (D): January 18, 1999-January 18, 2003
-Elected 1998 (52.4%-45.4%)
-Lost Re-Election
Lewis Massey (R): January 18, 2003-January 19, 2007
-Elected 2002 (50.1%-49.0%)
-Lost Re-Election
David Poythress (D): January 19, 2007-January 15, 2011
-Elected 2006 (57.2%-38.0%)
-Retired
Nathan Deal (R): January 15, 2011-January 14, 2019
-Elected 2010 (48.3%-49.9%|50.1%-49.9%)
-Elected 2014 (50.5%-49.2%)
-Term Limited
Stacey Abrams (D): January 14, 2019-Present
-Elected 2018 (50.9%-47.2%)

Governors of Alabama:

Guy Hunt (R): January 20, 1987-January 24, 1991
-Elected 1986 (56.5%-43.5%)
-Lost Re-Election
Paul Hubbert (D): January 24, 1991-January 23, 1999
-Elected 1990 (49.3%-48.9%)
-Elected 1994 (62.2%-35.5%)
-Term Limited
Don Siegelman (D): January 23, 1999-January 22, 2007
-Elected 1998 (53.2%-44.4%)
-Elected 2002 (50.0%-48.2%)
-Term Limited
Doug Jones (D): January 22, 2007-January 23, 2011
-Elected 2006 (54.5%-44.0%)
-Retired
Roy Moore (R): January 23, 2011-January 26, 2015
-Elected 2010 (46.4%-43.0%-10.2%)
-Lost Re-Election
Nathan Mathis (D): January 26, 2015-January 23, 2019
-Elected 2014 (51.1%-45.2%)
-Lost Re-Election
Kay Ivey (R): January 23, 2019-Present
-Elected 2018 (47.2%-47.0%)

Governors of Mississippi:

Ray Mabus (D): January 24, 1988-January 31, 1996
-Elected 1987 (53.4%-46.6%)
-Elected 1991 (52.0%-48.0%)
-Term Limited
Ronnie Musgrove (D): January 31, 1996-January 31, 2004
-Elected 1995 (54.7%-45.3%)
-Elected 1999 (50.1%-49.9%)
-Term Limited
Pete Johnson (R): January 31, 2004-January 31, 2008
-Elected 2003 (54.0%-46.0%)
-Lost Re-Election
Bill Luckett (D): January 31, 2008-April 5, 2010
-Elected 2007 (51.9%-48.9%)
-Assassinated
Phil Bryant (R): April 5, 2010-January 31, 2012
-Assumed Office
-Lost Election
Bennie Thompson (D): January 31, 2012-January 31, 2020
-Elected 2011 (50.4%-49.6%)
-Elected 2015 (60.4%-39.6%)
-Term Limited
Tate Reeves (R): January 31, 2020-January 31, 2022
-Elected 2019 (45.2%-44.9%-7.5%)
-Recalled (62.5%-37.5%)
Bennie Thompson (D): January 31, 2022-Present
-Elected 2021 (61.8%-38.2%)
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« Reply #1232 on: April 15, 2022, 11:12:00 PM »

Gore wins in 2000:

43: Al Gore: 2001-2005 (loses re-election to John McCain)
44: John McCain: 2005-2009 (loses re-election to John Edwards)
45: John Edwards: 2009-2013 (loses re-election to Mitt Romney)
46: Mitt Romney: 2013-2021 (first president to win re-election since Clinton)
47: Bernie Sanders: 2021-present (fate TBD)

Mitt Romney first GOP since Reagan to serve 2 terms
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« Reply #1233 on: April 16, 2022, 12:22:57 AM »

39. Ronald Reagan (R): January 20, 1977-January 20, 1981*
-1976: def. Jimmy Carter (283-254/47.5%-51.1%)
40. Ted Kennedy (D): January 20, 1981-January 20, 1985*
-1980: def. Ronald Reagan (339-199/53.2%-43.9%)
41. Charles Percy (R): January 20, 1985-January 20, 1989**
-1984: def. Ted Kennedy (286-252/48.8%-48.2%)
42. Michael Dukakis (D): January 20, 1989-January 20, 1993*
-1988: def. Pat Buchanan (302-236/52.1%-45.0%)
43. George H.W. Bush (R): January 20, 1993-January 20, 1997*
-1992: def. Michael Dukakis (272-262/48.1%-48.1%)
44. Bill Clinton (D): January 20, 1997-January 20, 2001***
-1996: def. George H.W. Bush (397-141/53.0%-42.2%)
45. Al Gore (D): January 20, 2001-January 20, 2005*
-2000: def. George W. Bush (300-238/50.1%-46.9%)
46. John McCain (R): January 20, 2005-January 20, 2009*
-2004: def Al Gore (274-264/47.5%-50.0%)
47. Hillary Clinton (D): January 20, 2009-January 20, 2013***
-2008: def. John McCain (370-158/54.0%-43.0%)
48. Barack Obama (D): January 20, 2013-January 20, 2017***
-2012: def. Mitt Romney (348-190/52.1%-44.8%)
49. Joe Biden (D): January 20, 2017-January 20, 2021*
-2016: def. Ted Cruz (375-163/55.0%-41.1%)
50. Newt Gingrich (R): January 20, 2021-February 2, 2022****
-2020: def. Joe Biden (269-269/46.0%-53.0%)
51. Marco Rubio (R): February 2, 2022-Present

*=Lost Re-Election
**=Primaried From The Extremes
***=Retired (A: Scandal, B: Scandal, C: Assassination Attempt)
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« Reply #1234 on: April 27, 2022, 10:48:13 AM »
« Edited: April 27, 2022, 10:56:03 AM by LabourJersey »

No Chappaquiddick:

37. Richard M. Nixon (R) Jan. 20 1969--Sep. 4 1974*
def. George McGovern (1972)
38. George Bush (R) Sep. 4 1974--Jan. 20 1977
39. Edward M. Kennedy (D) Jan. 20 1977--Jan. 20 1985
def. George Bush (1976) and John Connally (1980)
40. Pierre DuPont (R) Jan. 20 1985--Jan. 20 1989
def. Gary Hart (1984)
42. Mario M. Cuomo (D) Jan. 20 1989--Jan. 20 1997
def. Pierre DuPont (1988) and Richard Lugar (1992)
43. Pete Wilson (R) Jan. 20 1997--Jan. 20 2005
def. Bob Kerrey (1996) and Tom Harkin (2000)
44. Steve Largent (R) Jan. 20 2005--Jan. 20 2009
def. Joseph P. Kennedy II (2004)
45. John Edwards (D) Jan. 20 2009--Dec. 11 2013*
def. Steve Largent (2008), John E. Bush (2012)
46. Jeanne Shaheen (D) Dec. 11 2013--Jan. 20 2017

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« Reply #1235 on: April 27, 2022, 03:53:40 PM »

I lost to who?
-Richard Nixon on November 8th 1972

37.Richard M. Nixon(R-CA)/Spiro T. Agnew(R-MD)
1968 def. Hubert H. Humphery(D-MN)/Edmund Muskie(D-ME) and George C. Wallace(A-AL)/Curtis Lemay(R-CA)
38.George S. McGovern(D-SD)/Mike Gravel(D-AK)
1972 def. Richard M. Nixon(R-CA)/Spiro T. Agnew(R-MD)
39.Ronald W. Reagan(R-CA)/Howard Baker(R-TN)
1976 def. George S. McGovern(D-SD)/Mike Gravel(D-AK)
40.George S. McGovern(D-SD)/Shirley Chisholm(D-NY)
1980 def. Ronald W. Reagan(R-CA)/Howard Baker(R-TN)
41.Shirley Chisholm(D-NY)/Gary Hart(D-CO)
1984 def. George H.W. Bush(R-TX)/Dan Quayle(R-IN)
1988 def. Bob Dole(R-KS)/Jack Kemp(R-NY)
42.Ross Perot(RE-TX)/Donald Trump(RE-NY)
1992 Def. Gary Hart(D-CO)/Bill Clinton(D-AR) and Pat Buchanan(R-DC)/Trent Lott(R-MS)
1996 def. Bill Clinton(D-AR)/Jerry Brown(D-CA) and Jeb Bush(R-FL)/Bill Weld(R-MA)
43.Al Gore(D-TN)/Jimmy Carter(D-GA)
2000 def. Donald Trump(RE-NY)/Ralph Nader(RE-CT) and Dick Cheney(R-WY)/George W. Bush(R-TX)
44.John McCain(R-AZ)/Joe Liberman(D-CT)
2004 def. Al Gore(D-TN)/Jimmy Carter(D-GA) and Ralph Nader(RE-CT)/Jerry Brown(D-CA)
45.Mike Gravel(RE-AK)/Barack Obama(D-IL)
2008 def. John McCain(R-AZ)/Joe Liberman(D-CT) and Bill Clinton(D-AR)/Joe Biden(D-DE)
2012 def. Donald Trump(D-NY)/Susan Collins(R-ME)
46.Bernie Sanders(I/RE-VT)/Tammy Baldwin(D-WI)
2016 def. Joe Manchin(D-WV)/Claire McCaskill(D-MO)
2020 def. Bill Clinton(D-AR)/Bill Weld(D-MA)
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« Reply #1236 on: April 28, 2022, 10:29:44 PM »

41st VP and 40th President George Bush:

37. Richard Nixon / Spiro Agnew (Republican): 1969-1973
Def. 1968: Hubert Humphrey / Edmund Muskie (Democratic), George Wallace / Curtis LeMay (American Independent)
Def. 1972: George McGovern / Sargent Shriver (Democratic)

37. Richard Nixon / Vacant (Republican): 1973
37. Richard Nixon / Gerald Ford (Republican): 1973-1974
38. Gerald Ford / Vacant (Republican): 1974
38. Gerald Ford / George Bush (Republican): 1974-1977
39. Jimmy Carter / Walter Mondale (Democratic): 1977-1981
Def. 1976: Ronald Reagan / Richard Schweiker (Republican)
40. George Bush / Paul Laxalt (Republican): 1981-1989
Def. 1980: Jimmy Carter / Walter Mondale (Democratic)
Def. 1984: Walter Mondale / Gerraldine Ferraro (Democratic)

41. Gary Hart / Sam Nunn (Democratic): 1989-1993
Def. 1988: Bob Dole / Lamar Alexander (Republican)
42. Carroll Campbell / Richard Lugar (Republican): 1993-1998 [1]
Def. 1992: Gary Hart / Sam Nunn (Democratic), Jesse Jackson / Ralph Nader (Green)
Def. 1996: Sam Nunn / Douglas Wilder (Democratic)

43. Richard Lugar / Vacant (Republican): 1998
43. Richard Lugar / Elizabeth Dole (Republican): 1999-2005
Def. 2000: Bill Bradley / Paul Wellstone (Democratic)
44. Joe Biden / Blanche Lincoln (Democratic): 2005-2009
Def. 2004 Elizabeth Dole / Sam Brownback (Republican)
45. John McCain / J.C. Watts (Republican): 2009-2013 [2]
Def. 2008: Joe Biden / Blanche Lincoln (Democratic)
46. Barack Obama / Tim Kaine (Democratic): 2013-2021
Def. 2012: J.C. Watts / Tim Pawlenty (Republican)
Def. 2016: Jon Huntsman / Paul Ryan (Republican)

47. Marco Rubio / Scott Walker (Republican): 2021-2025
Def. 2020: Tim Kaine / Deval Patrick (Democratic)
48. Sherrod Brown / Val Demings (Democratic): 2025-Present
Def. 2024: Marco Rubio / Scott Walker (Republican)
Def. 2028: Ron DeSantis / Dan Crenshaw (Republican)


[1]= President Campbell resigned on August 3rd, 1998, due to Alzheimer's Diagnosis
[2]= President McCain Declined to seek re election, citing poor health.


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« Reply #1237 on: April 29, 2022, 12:17:11 AM »

Al Gore/Joe Lieberman (D): January 20, 2001-January 20, 2009
-Elected 2000 (300-238 EV/ 50.2%-46.6% PV)
-Elected 2004 (316-222 EV/ 50.9%-46.6% PV)
Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan (R): January 20, 2009-January 20, 2017
-Elected 2008 (274-264 EV/ 49.6%-48.9% PV)
-Elected 2012 (272-266 EV/ 48.6%-49.7% PV)
Paul Ryan/Kristi Noem (R): January 20, 2017-January 2021
-Elected 2016 (268-269 EV/ 46.8%-50.2% PV)
Andrew Yang/Tom Steyer (D): January 20, 2021-Present
-Elected 2020 (497-41 EV/ 61.2%-36.7% PV)
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« Reply #1238 on: April 29, 2022, 03:54:02 AM »
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2004: President Gore defeats Senator John McCain


2008: Minnesota Senator Michele Bachman defeats Delaware Senator Joe Biden


2012: President Bachman wins re-election against New York Governor Hillary Clinton


2016: Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders defeats Florida Governor George Bush


2020: President Sanders loses re-election to former Vice President Mitt Romney
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« Reply #1239 on: April 29, 2022, 09:20:26 AM »

"Give them hell, Harry!"
-Harry Truman Campaign Rally, October,27,1960

35.Harry S. Truman(D-MO)/John F. Kennedy(D-MA)
1960 def. Richard M. Nixon(R-CA)/Henry Cabot Lodge(R-MA) and Harry F. Byrd(D-VA)/J. Strom Thurmond(D-SC)
1964 def. Barry M. Goldwater(R-AZ)/William E. Miller(R-NY)
36.Richard M. Nixon(R-CA)/Spiro Agnew(R-MD)
1968 def. John F. Kennedy(D-MA)/Stuart Symington(D-MO) and George C. Wallace(D-AL)/Happy Chandler(D-KY)
1972 def. Hubert H. Humphrey(D-MN)/Edmund Muskie(D-ME)
37.Spiro Agnew(R-MD)/Vacant
38.Carl Albert(D-OK)/Vacant
39.Nelson A. Rockefeller(R-NY)/Howard Baker(R-TN)
1976 def. Jimmy E. Carter(D-GA)/Walter F. Mondale(D-MN)
40.Howard Baker(R-TN)/Bob Dole(R-KS)
41.George S. McGovern(D-SD)/Gaylord Nelson(D-WI)
1980 def. Howard Baker(R-TN)/Bob Dole(R-KS) and John B. Anderson(I-IL)/Ross Perot(I-TX)
1984 def. George H.W. Bush(R-TX)/Jack Kemp(R-NY)
42.Gaylord Nelson((D-WI)/Lloyd Bensten(D-TX)
1988 def. Oliver North(R-VA)/Alan Keyes(R-MD)
43.Ross Perot(RE-TX)/James Stockdale(RE-CA)
1992 def. Gaylord Nelson((D-WI)/Lloyd Bensten(D-TX) and Bob Dole(R-KS)/Jack Kemp(R-NY)
44.Al Gore(D-TN)/Jimmy E. Carter(D-GA)
1996 def. Ross Perot(RE-TX)/James Stockdale(RE-CA) and Pat Buchanan(R-DC)/Ezola Foster(R-CA)
2000 def. Donald J. Trump(RE-NY)/Oprah Winfrey(RE-MS)
45.Donald J. Trump(RE-NY)/Gary Johnston(RE-NM)
2004 def. John Edwards(D-NC)/Bill Clinton(D-AR)
46.Russ Feingold(D-WI)/Bernie Sanders(I/D-VT)
2008 def. Donald J. Trump(RE-NY)/Gary Johnston(RE-NM)
2012 def. Rocky de la Fuente(RE-CA)/Ralph Nader(RE/G-CT)
47.Rocky de la Fuente(RE-CA)/Ralph Nader(RE/G-CT).
2016 def. Bill Clinton(D-AR)/Evan Bayh(D-IN)
2020 def. Joe Manchin(D-WV)/Mitt Romney(D-UT)
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« Reply #1240 on: April 29, 2022, 09:25:25 AM »

"Give them hell, Harry!"
-Harry Truman Campaign Rally, October,27,1960

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« Reply #1241 on: April 30, 2022, 08:56:32 PM »
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One term Bushes, Two term Clintons

1989-93 George H.W. Bush/Dan Quayle
1993-91 Bill Clinton/Al Gore
2001-05 George W. Bush/Dick Cheney
2005-09 John Kerry/John Edwards
2009-13 Jeb! Bush/Lisa Murkowski
2013-21 Hillary Clinton/Barack Obama
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« Reply #1242 on: May 01, 2022, 08:39:11 PM »

42. Bill Clinton/Al Gore (1993-2001)
43. Al Gore/Joe Lieberman (2001-2009)
44. Jeb Bush/Mitt Romney (2009-2017)
45. Barack Obama/Dina Titus (2017-present)











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« Reply #1243 on: May 01, 2022, 09:04:40 PM »

42. Bill Clinton/Al Gore (1993-2001)
43. Al Gore/Joe Lieberman (2001-2009)
44. Jeb Bush/Mitt Romney (2009-2017)
45. Barack Obama/Dina Titus (2017-present)













Jeb! Bush followed by two term Obama
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« Reply #1244 on: May 03, 2022, 12:02:00 AM »

42. Al Gore (D): January 20, 1993-January 20, 2001
-Elected 1992
-Elected 1996
43. Bill Clinton (D): January 20, 2001-January 20, 2005
-Elected 2000
----Speaker Dennis Hastert (R, acting): January 20, 2005-January 22, 2005
----VP Dianne Feinstein (D, acting): January 22, 2005-March 10, 2005
44. George W. Bush (R): March 10, 2005-January 20, 2009
-Elected 2004
45. Barack Obama (D): January 20, 2009-January 20, 2017
-Elected 2008
-Elected 2012
46. Joe Biden (D): January 20, 2017-January 20, 2021
-Elected 2016
47. Marco Rubio (R): January 20, 2021-May 1, 2022
-Elected 2020
48. Sam Brownback (R): May 1, 2022-Present

VICE PRESIDENTS:
45. Bill Clinton (D): January 20, 1993-January 20, 2001
-Elected 1992
-Elected 1996
46. Dianne Feinstein (D): January 20, 2001-January 20, 2005
-Elected 2000
-VACANT-
47. Dianne Feinstein (D): January 22, 2005-January 20, 2009
-Elected 2004
48. Joe Biden (D): January 20, 2009-January 20, 2017
-Elected 2008
-Elected 2012
49. Kamala Harris (D): January 20, 2017-January 20, 2021
-Elected 2016
50. Sam Brownback (R): January 20, 2021-May 1, 2022
-VACANT-
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« Reply #1245 on: May 08, 2022, 09:08:33 PM »

Joe Biden (D): January 20, 2017-Present
-Elected 2016 (352-186/51.3%-44.0%)
--16- 55D-45R*/225D-210R
--18- 51R-49D**/229R-206D
-Elected 2020 (413-125/53.8%-42.4%)
--20- 56D-44R***/239D-196R

*=MO (Kander), PA (McGinty), WI (Feingold), IN (Bayh), AZ (Kelly), AK (Gross), FL (Murphy)
**=WV (Blankenship), MT (O'Neill), OH (Mandel)
***=ME (Golden), IA (Greenfield), MT (Tester), NC (Jackson), TX (O'Rourke)

Few Interesting Facts:

1) Senate is more Jewish (17/100 vs 10/100)
(OTL members plus:
-Al Franken (2009- )
-Jason Kander (2017- )
-Russ Feingold (1993-2011, 2017- )
-Al Gross (2017- )
-Ron Galperin (2019- )
-Jared Golden (2021- )
-David Kustoff (2021-)

2) Senate is more insane
GOP includes:
-Kari Lake (2019- )
-Don F-cking Blankenship (2019- )
-Mike Kennedy (2019- )
-Josh Mandel (2019- )
-Steve King (2018- ) --Chuck Grassley resigns
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« Reply #1246 on: May 08, 2022, 09:35:34 PM »

37. Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew 1969-1974
38. Spiro Agnew/vacant 1974, George H.W. Bush 1974-1977
39. Ronald Reagan/Richard Schweiker 1977-1981
40. Mo Udall/Reubin Askew 1981-1989
41. Reubin Askew/Lloyd Bentsen 1989-1993
42. Bob Dole/Jack Kemp 1993-2001
43. John Kerry/John Edwards 2001-2009
44. John McCain/Tim Pawlenty 2009-2013
45. Tim Pawlenty/vacant 2013, Nikki Haley 2013-2017
46. Barack Obama/Elizabeth Warren 2017-present
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« Reply #1247 on: May 15, 2022, 08:32:00 AM »

45. Donald Trump Sr. (R-NY) / Mike Pence (R-IN) (2017-2021)
2016: def. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Tim Kaine (D-VA)

46. Joe Biden (D-DE) / Kamala Harris (D-CA) (2021-2025)
2020: def. Donald Trump Sr. (D-FL) / Mike Pence (R-IN)

47. Kamala Harris (D-CA) / Roy Cooper (D-NC) (2025-2033)
2024: def. Tucker Carlson (R-DC) / Ron De Santis (R-FL)
2028: def. Tom Cotton (R-AR) / Nikki Haley (R-SC)

48. Donald Trump Jr. (R-FL) / Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) (2033-2037)
2032: def. Gavin Newsom (D-CA) / Gretchen Whitmer (D-MI)

49. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) / Brian Schatz (D-HI) (2037-2041)
2036: def. Donald Trump Jr. (R-FL) / Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA)

50. Laura Loomer (R-FL) / Ryan Fournier (R-NJ) (2041-present)
2040: def. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) / Brian Schatz (D-HI)

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« Reply #1248 on: May 20, 2022, 10:49:59 PM »

You Can't Shoot An Idea
Dewey Wins the Election of 1948 (An Unfinished TL from 2016)

34. Thomas E. Dewey / Earl Warren (Republican): 1949-1953
       Thomas E. Dewey / Richard M. Nixon (Republican): 1953-1957 [1]
Def. 1948: Harry S. Truman / Benjamin T. Laney (Democratic), Henry A. Wallace / Claude Pepper (Progressive)
Def. 1952: Richard Russell, Jr. / W. Averell Harriman (Democratic), Estes Kefauver / Hubert Humphrey (New Democratic)


35. Nelson Rockefeller / Everett Dirksen (Republican): 1957-1960 [2] [3]
       Nelson Rockefeller / Vacant (Republican): 1960-1961
Def. 1956: William Kerr Scott / Ezekiel C. Gathings (Democratic), Estes Kefauver / Adlai Stevenson II (New Democratic)


36. John W. McCormack / Edmund "Pat" Brown (New Democratic): 1961-1962 [4] [5]
Def. 1960: Nelson Rockefeller / Raymond P. Shafer (Republican), Harry Flood Byrd, Sr. / Roy Cohn (Conservative)


37. Edmund "Pat" Brown / Vacant (New Democratic): 1962-1965

38. Nelson Rockefeller / Charles H. Percy (Republican): 1965-1969 [6] [7] [8]
Def. 1964: Edmund "Pat" Brown / FDR, Jr. (New Democratic), Ezra Taft Benson / Robert Lee Sikes (Conservative)


39. George McGovern / John Fitzgerald Kennedy (New Democratic): 1969-1977 [9] [10] [11]
Def. 1968: Charles H. Percy / John V. Lindsay (Republican), Thomas J. Anderson / John Tower (Conservative)
Def. 1972: Prescott S. Bush / Mark Hatfield (Republican), Robert C. Byrd / Larry McDonald (Conservative)


40. John Fitzgerald Kennedy / Albert Gore, Sr. (New Democratic): 1977-1981 [12] [13]
Def. 1976: Gerald R. Ford / Robert Taft Jr. (Republican), Ronald W. Reagan / John M. Ashbrook (Conservative)


[1] = Vice Pres. Warren is tarnished by an infidelity scandal and chooses not to seek VP nomination. Nixon is unanimously selected VP at the 1952 RNC.
[2] = Interior Sec. Nelson Rockefeller, a dark horse candidate, is chosen by the deadlocked 1956 RNC. He wins the general election in a near-landslide.
[3] = Pres. Rockefeller forces the resignation of Vice Pres. Dirksen once the latter sabotages a minimum wage law extension in the U.S. Senate.
[4] = Prevailing over Pres. Rockefeller and the Byrd-Cohn ticket, liberal Gov. John McCormack is elected president by an EV plurality.
[5] = Pres. McCormack is assassinated via automobile assault by a member of Freedom Charge, a far-right militant group. Founder Robert Welch denies involvement.
[6] = Amid a series of foreign policy blunders, Pres. Brown is defeated by Fmr Pres. Rockefeller. The 1964 Election has the highest turnout in twenty years.
[7] = With public support for U.S. military presence in the Australia-Indonesian War wearing thin, a rejuvenated isolationist wing takes root in the GOP.
[8] = Vice Pres. Percy is nominated by the RNC following a grueling primary against isolationist Sen. William Knowland. Riots break out outside the convention.
[9] = Taking advantage of a divided Republican Party and domestic unrest, Gov. McGovern attracts a new voter coalition and secures victory at the polls.
[10] = Pres. McGovern's successful drawdown of U.S. forces from Indonesia coupled with passage of a bolstered Civil Rights bill results in a landslide victory in 1972.
[11] = Republicans sweep the congressional midterm elections of 1974, hindering Pres. McGovern's ability to address an ongoing recession.
[12] = The Election of 1976 is decided by the House of Representatives. Vice Pres. Kennedy is selected on the first ballot.
[13] = Citing debilitating migraines, Pres. Kennedy chooses not to seek re-election.
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« Reply #1249 on: May 21, 2022, 10:13:36 AM »

It's unlikely Nixon would become a Senator in 1950 if it wasn't for a Democrat administration
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