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« Reply #1150 on: September 05, 2021, 11:11:37 PM »
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36. Martin Luther King, Jr. (F–Ga.), 1977-1985
      John Glenn (F–Ohio), 1977-1985

37. George H. W. Bush (R–Texas), 1985-1989
      Nancy Landon Baker (R–Kans.), 1985-1989

38. Joseph R. Biden, Jr. (F–Del.), 1989-1997
      Carrie Meek (F–Fla.), 1989-1997

39. Bill Clinton (F–Ark.), 1997-2001
      Ann Richards (F–Texas), 1997-2001

40. Hillary D. Rodham (R–Ill.), 2001-2009
      Jeb Bush (R–Fla.), 2001-2009

41. Jeb Bush (R–Fla.), 2009-2017
      John E. Sununu (R–N.H.), 2009-2017

42. Barack Obama (F–Ill.), 2017-2020
      Julián Castro (F–Texas), 2017-2020

43. Julián Castro (F–Texas), 2020-present
      Janet Napolitano (I–Ariz.), 2020-2021
      Maura Healey (F–Mass.), 2021-present

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« Reply #1151 on: September 09, 2021, 04:36:19 PM »

a sort of nixon in 1960 world, "inspired" by discussions i still vaguely remember from like 2004

1961-1969 Richard Nixon(rep)
1969-1973 Nelson Rockefeller(rep)
1973-1981 Jerry Brown(dem)
1981-1989 Eugene McCarthy(dem)
1989-1997 John Heinz(rep)
1997-2001 Evan Bayh(dem)
2001-2005 Mark Hatfield(rep)
2005-2013 Mike Gravel(dem)
2013-2020 William Weld(rep)
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« Reply #1152 on: September 11, 2021, 09:35:53 PM »

POD: Al Gore barely wins FL in 2000.

Presidents:

42. Bill Clinton (D-AR) - 1993-2001
43. Al Gorea (D-TN) - 2001
44. Joe Lieberman (D-CT) - 2001-2009
45. Ron Paul (R-TX) - 2009-2017
46. Bernie Sanders (D-VT) - 2017-2021
47. John Kasich (R-OH) - 2021-present

Vice Presidents:

45. Al Gore (D-TN) - 1993-2001
46. Joe Lieberman (D-CT) - 2001
--. Vacant - 2001-2002
47. John Breauxb (D-LA) - 2002-2009
48. Bob Barr (R-GA) - 2009-2017
49. Barbara Lee (D-CA) - 2017-2021
50. Marco Rubio (R-FL) - 2021-present

a - Assassinated as part of the attacks on 9/11/01.
b - Appointed by President Lieberman and confirmed by Congress to become Vice President.
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« Reply #1153 on: September 17, 2021, 12:35:23 AM »

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
35. John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democratic, Massachusetts) 1961–1963 ‡
36. Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democratic, Texas) 1963–1969
37. Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican, California) 1969–1974 *
38. Gerald Rudolph Ford (Republican, California) 1974–1977
39. Eugene Joseph McCarthy (No party, Minnesota) 1977–1981
40. Theodore Edward Kennedy (Democratic, Massachusetts) 1981–1989
41. Walter Frederick Mondale (Democratic, Minnesota) 1989–1993
42. Peter Barton Wilson (Republican, California) 1993–2001
43. John Richard Kasich (Republican, Ohio) 2001–2005
44. John Forbes Kerry (Democratic, Massachusetts) 2005–2009
46. Timothy James Pawlenty (Republican, Minnesota) 2009–2017
47. Barack Hussein Obama (Democratic, Illinois) 2017–present
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« Reply #1154 on: September 17, 2021, 10:02:41 AM »

George HW Bush (R) (1989-1997)
Joe Biden (D) (1997-2005)
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« Reply #1155 on: September 17, 2021, 05:24:01 PM »

The Office of Prime Minister of the United States of America

STYLE: Mr. Prime Minister (informal), The Honorable (formal), His Excellency (diplomatic)

RESIDENCE: White House (official), Camp David (vacation)

SALARY: $768,446 (annually inflation adjusted from the $25,000 in 1789)

TERM: Party members elect their candidates, and the winner is whichever party (or coalition, though that has never been used) ends up with the most seats. Elections are held every two years so the Prime Minister is elected on March 4 of the next year. There are no term limits.

Prime Ministers of the United States:
1. George Washington (F): April 30, 1789-January 1, 1795 (Retired)
2. John Adams (F): January 1, 1795-March 19, 1798 (V.O.N.C. on March 2, 1798)
3. Alexander Hamilton (F): March 19, 1798-March 4, 1799 (Party lost Majority)
4. Thomas Jefferson (DR): March 4, 1799-March 4, 1803 (Party lost Majority)
5. Alexander Hamilton (F): March 4, 1803-July 12, 1804 (Died in Duel)
6. John Jay (F): July 12, 1804-March 4, 1807 (Party lost Majority)
7. Thomas Jefferson (DR): March 4, 1807-March 4, 1809 (Retired)
8. James Monroe (DR): March 4, 1809-September 10, 1812 (V.O.N.C. on October 13, 1812)
9. James Madison (DR): September 10, 1812-March 4, 1819 (Retired)
10. DeWitt Clinton (F): March 4, 1819-March 4, 1823 (Party lost Majority)
11. John Quincy Adams (DR): March 4, 1823-April 5, 1824 (V.O.N.C. on March 29, 1824)
12. Henry Clay (DR): April 5, 1824-March 4, 1827 (Retired)
13. John Quincy Adams (DR): March 4, 1827-March 4, 1829 (Party lost Majority)
14. Andrew Jackson (D): March 4, 1829-March 4, 1837 (Retired)
15. Martin Van Buren (D): March 4, 1837-March 4, 1841 (Party lost Majority)
16. William Henry Harrison (W): March 4, 1841-June 1, 1841 (Died in Office)
17. Daniel Webster (W): June 1, 1841-August 31, 1841 (Retired under Whig policy*)
18. John Tyler (W): August 31, 1841-March 4, 1843 (Party Lost Majority)
19. James Polk (D): March 4, 1843-March 4, 1845 (Party Lost Majority)
20. Henry Clay (W): March 4, 1845-March 4, 1847 (Party Lost Majority)
21. Zachary Taylor (D): March 4, 1847-June 9, 1850 (Died in Office)
22. Lewis Cass (D): June 9, 1850-August 2, 1850 (Died in Office)
23. Millard Fillmore (W): August 2, 1850-March 4, 1851 (Retired)
24. Franklin Pierce (D): March 4, 1851-March 4, 1853 (Party Lost Majority)
25. Winfield Scott (W): March 4, 1853-March 4, 1855 (Retired)
26. James Buchanan (D): March 4, 1855-August 15, 1858 (V.O.N.C. on August 2, 1858)
27. Stephen Douglas (D): August 15, 1858-March 13, 1859 (V.O.N.C. on March 1, 1859)
28. James Buchanan (D): March 13, 1859-June 7, 1859 (V.O.N.C. on June 4, 1859)
29. Jefferson Davis (D): June 7, 1859-September 30, 1859 (V.O.N.C. on September 8, 1859)
30. James Buchanan (D): September 30, 1859-March 4, 1861 (Party Lost Majority)
31. Abraham Lincoln (R): March 4, 1861-April 13, 1865 (Assassinated)
32. Andrew Johnson (NU/D): April 13, 1865-July 2, 1865 (V.O.N.C. on June 3, 1865)
33. Benjamin Wade (R): July 2, 1865-March 4, 1867 (Retired)
34. Ulysses Grant (R): March 4, 1867-March 4, 1877 (Retired)
35. James Garfield (R): March 4, 1877-February 23, 1880 (V.O.N.C. on February 8, 1880)
36. Chester Arthur (R): February 23, 1880-September 6, 1881 (Assassinated)
37. Benjamin Harrison (R): September 6, 1881-March 4, 1885 (Retired)
38. Rutherford Hayes (R): March 4, 1885-March 4, 1889 (Party Lost Majority)
39. Grover Cleveland (D): March 4, 1889-March 4, 1893 (Party Lost Majority)
40. Hiram Rhodes Revels (R): March 4, 1893-March 4, 1897 (Retired)
41. William McKinley (R): March 4, 1897-November 9, 1901 (Assassinated)
42. Theodore Roosevelt (R): November 9, 1901-March 4, 1909 (Retired)
43. William Howard Taft (R): March 4, 1909-March 4, 1913 (Party Lost Majority)
44. Woodrow Wilson (D): March 4, 1913-March 4, 1915 (Party Lost Majority)
45. Charles Evans Hughes (R): March 4, 1915-March 4, 1917 (Party Lost Majority)
46. Woodrow Wilson (D): March 4, 1917-October 11, 1919 (Incapacitated)
47. Thomas Marshall (D): October 11, 1919-March 4, 1921 (Party Lost Majority)
48. Warren G. Harding (R): March 4, 1921-December 3, 1922 (Died in Office)
49. Booker T. Washington (R): December 3, 1922-March 4, 1925 (Retired)
50. Calvin Coolidge (R): March 4, 1925-March 4, 1929 (Retired)
51. Herbert Hoover (R): March 4, 1929-June 8, 1931 (V.O.N.C. on June 5, 1931)
52. Charles Curtis (R): June 8, 1931-March 4, 1933 (Party Lost Majority)
53. Henry Morgenthau (D): March 4, 1933-March 4, 1941 (Retired)
54. Tokutaro Nishimura (D): March 4, 1941-March 4, 1947 (Retired)
55. Harry Truman (D): March 4, 1947-March 4, 1951 (Retired)
56. Dwight Eisenhower (R): March 4, 1951-March 4, 1955 (Retired)
57. Charles Percy (R): March 4, 1955-March 4, 1961 (Retired)
58. John Kennedy (D): March 4, 1961-May 6, 1962 (Resigned to Avoid Criminal Charges)1
59. Hubert Humphrey (D): May 6, 1962-March 4, 1963 (Party Lost Majority)
60. Charles Percy (R): March 4, 1963-March 4, 1965 (Retired)
61. Margaret Chase Smith (R): March 4, 1965-March 4, 1971 (Retired)
62. Mo Udall (D): March 4, 1971-March 4, 1975 (Retired)
63. Pat Nixon (R): March 4, 1975-June 4, 1976 (Resigned to Avoid Criminal Charges)2
64. Benjamin Davis Jr. (R): June 4, 1976-March 4, 1977 (Party Lost Majority)
65. James Carter (D): March 4, 1977-March 4, 1979 (Party Lost Majority)
66. Gerald Ford (R): March 4, 1979-March 4, 1981 (Party Lost Majority)
67. Daniel Inouye (D): March 4, 1981-March 4, 1989 (Retired)
68. James Carter (D): March 4, 1989-March 4, 1991 (Retired)
69. George H.W. Bush (R): March 4, 1991-March 4, 1997 (Party Lost Majority)
70. Hillary Rodham (D): March 4, 1997-March 4, 2001 (Party Lost Majority)
71. George W. Bush (R): March 4, 2001-September 11, 2001 (Died on 9/11)
72. Dick Cheney (R): September 11, 2001-July 9, 2007 (Resigned to Avoid Criminal Charges)3
73. John Boehner (R): July 9, 2007-March 4, 2009 (Party Lost Majority)
74. Barack Obama (D): March 4, 2009-March 4, 2017 (Retired)
75. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (R): March 4, 2017-November 11, 2018 (V.O.N.C. on 9/6/18)
76. Evan Bayh (D): November 11, 2018-March 4, 2019 (Retired)
77. Ted Cruz (R): March 4, 2019-March 4, 2021 (Party Lost Majority)
78. Kamala Harris (D): March 4, 2021-Present

The longest term served was exactly ten years (by Ulysses Grant, 1867-1877) while the shortest was Lewis Cass, who served for less than two months in 1850.

*: "The acceded prime minister having replaced the dead or incapacitated one shall have to be subject to a standard party selection vote no earlier than four weeks or later than six weeks after taking office. If they lose, they will leave office at the end of the following month"

1: Prime Minister Kennedy's father was revealed to have supported the holocaust in a leaked tape and was also found to have given over $1,000,000 to known election-rigging operators. Kennedy was commuted by his successor, former Deputy Prime Minister Hubert Humphrey. His father was fined over $1,000,000 and sentenced to a ten-year suspended jail sentence. Kennedy Sr. would die in 1964 and Kennedy himself would die in 1985.

2: Patricia Nixon was found to have ordered a break in Republican headquarters as a false flag operation to win votes. She was also found to have abused her authority to direct the IRS to 'look closely' at her rivals' tax returns.

3: Dick Cheney was brought in to office upon the tragic death of his predecessor, who was staying at 3 WTC after a meeting with the UN. He was among the 6,000 killed in the hijacking. Prime Minister Cheney was revealed to have purposely delayed aid to become Prime Minister. Cheney resigned in 2007 and despite avoiding federal charges he was sentenced to three years in jail in 2009, and was released in 2010 to house arrest.

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« Reply #1156 on: September 17, 2021, 11:03:58 PM »

1. George Washington (No faction, Virginia) - 1789-1797 (Resigned – presidency is for life/til resignation, elected by Congress)
2. John Adams (Federal Party, Massachusetts) - 1797-1826 (Died)
3. John Quincy Adams (Federal Party, Massachusetts) - 1826-1848 (Died)
4. Charles Francis Adams (Federal Party, Massachusetts) - 1848-1852 (Assassinated)
5. Winfield Scott (Unionist Party, Virginia) - 1848-1866 (Died)
6. Ulysses S. Grant (Unionist Party, Ohio) - 1866-1885 (Died)
7. Robert Todd Lincoln (Unionist Party, Illinois) - 1885-1893 (Resigned)
8. Benjamin Harrison (Unionist Party, Indiana) - 1893-1901 (Resigned)
9. George Dewey (No faction, Vermont) - 1901-1906 (Resigned)
10. Theodore Roosevelt (Republican, New York) - 1906-1919 (Died)
11. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Republican, New York) - 1919-1922 (Resigned)
12. Andrew Mellon (Republican, Pennsylvania) - 1922-1933 (Impeached)
13. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Labor Party, New York) - 1933-1945 (Died)
14. Eleanor Roosevelt (Labor Party, New York) - 1945-1951 (Resigned)
15. Earl Warren (Liberal Party, California) - 1951-1963 (Resigned)
16. George W. Romney (Liberal Party, Michigan) - 1963-1971 (Resigned)
17. Richard M. Nixon (Liberal Party, California) - 1971-1973 (Impeached)
18. Robert F. Kennedy (Labor Party, New York) - 1973-1985 (Term ended – new, single, 12-year term)
19. Walter Mondale (Labor Party, Minnesota) - 1985-1997
20. Edward M. Kennedy (Labor Party, Massachusetts) - 1997-2009
21. Mitt Romney (Liberal Party, Michigan) - 2009-2021
22. Tammy Duckworth (Labor Party, Illinois) - 2021-present
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« Reply #1157 on: September 22, 2021, 10:36:39 PM »
« Edited: September 23, 2021, 06:39:20 PM by Unconditional Surrender Truman »

ACTING VICE PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
— Death of Vice President George Clinton
–. William Harris Crawford (Republican, Georgia) April 20, 1812–March 4, 1813
— Death of Vice President Elbridge Gerry
–. John Galliard (Republican, South Carolina) November 23, 1814–March 4, 1817
— Resignation of Vice President John Caldwell Calhoun
–. Hugh Lawson White (Democratic Republican, Tennessee) December 28, 1832–March 4, 1833
— Ascension of Vice President John Tyler
–. Samuel Lewis Southard (Whig, New Jersey) April 4, 1841–May 31, 1842
–. Willie Person Magnum (Whig, North Carolina) May 31, 1842–March 4, 1845

— Ascension of Vice President Millard Fillmore
–. William Rufus King (Democratic, Alabama) July 9, 1850–December 20, 1852
–. David Rice Atchison (Democratic, Missouri) December 20, 1852–March 4, 1853

— Death of Vice President William Rufus King
–. David Rice Atchison (Democratic, Missouri) April 18, 1853–December 4, 1854
–. Lewis Cass (Democratic, Michigan) December 4, 1854
–. Jesse David Bright (Democratic, Indiana) December 4, 1854–December 2, 1855

–. NONE (line of succession exhausted) December 2–5, 1855
–. Jesse David Bright (Democratic, Indiana) December 5, 1855–June 9, 1856
–. Charles Edward Stuart (Democratic, Michigan) June 9–July 10, 1856
–. Jesse David Bright (Democratic, Indiana) July 10, 1856–January 6, 1857
–. James Murray Mason (Democratic, Virginia) January 6–March 4, 1857

— Ascension of Vice President Andrew Johnson
–. Lafayette Sabine Foster (Republican, Connecticut) April 15, 1865–March 2, 1867
–. Benjamin Franklin Wade (Republican, Ohio) March 2, 1867–March 4, 1869

— Death of Vice President Henry Wilson
–. Thomas White Ferry (Republican, Michigan) November 22, 1875–March 4, 1877
— Ascension of Vice President Chester Alan Arthur
–. NONE (line of succession exhausted) September 19–October 10, 1881
–. Thomas Francis Bayard, Sr. (Democratic, Delaware) October 10–13, 1881
–. David Davis (No party, Illinois) October 13, 1881–March 3, 1883
–. George Franklin Edmunds (Republican, Vermont) March 3, 1883–March 4, 1885
— Death of Vice President Thomas Andrews Hendricks
–. NONE (line of succession exhausted) November 25–December 7, 1885
–. John Sherman (Republican, Ohio) December 7, 1885–February 26, 1887
–. John James Ingalls (Republican, Kansas) February 26, 1887–March 4, 1889

— Death of Vice President Garret Hobart
–. John Hay (Republican, District of Columbia) November 21, 1899–March 4, 1901
— Ascension of Vice President Theodore Roosevelt
–. John Hay (Republican, District of Columbia) September 14, 1901–March 4, 1905
— Death of Vice President James Schoolcraft Sherman
–. Philander Chase Knox (Republican, Pennsylvania) October 30, 1912–March 4, 1913
— Ascension of Vice President John Calvin Coolidge
–. Charles Evans Hughes (Republican, New York) August 7, 1923–March 4, 1925
— Ascension of Vice President Harry S. Truman
–. Edward Reilly Stettinus, Jr. (Democratic, Virginia) April 12–June 27, 1945
–. Henry Morgenthau, Jr. (Democratic, New York) June 27, 1945–July 3, 1945
–. James Francis Byrnes (Democratic, South Carolina) July 3, 1945–January 21, 1947

–. George Catlett Marshall, Jr. (No party, Pennsylvania) January 21, 1947–July 18, 1947
–. Joseph William Martin, Jr. (Republican, Massachusetts) July 18, 1947–January 3, 1949
–. Samuel Talliaferro Rayburn (Democratic, Texas) January 3–20, 1949
— Ascension of Vice President Lyndon Baines Johnson
–. John William McCormack (Democratic, Massachusetts) November 22, 1963–January 20, 1965
— Resignation of Vice President Spiro Theodore Agnew
–. Carl Bert Albert (Democratic, Oklahoma) October 10–December 6, 1973
— Ascension of Vice President Gerald Rudolph Ford
–. Carl Bert Albert (Democratic, Oklahoma) August 9–December 19, 1974
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« Reply #1158 on: September 25, 2021, 01:30:29 AM »
« Edited: September 25, 2021, 03:20:54 AM by Unconditional Surrender Truman »

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
35. John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democratic, Massachusetts) 1961–1963 ‡
36. Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democratic, Texas) 1963–1969

37. Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican, California) 1969–1974 *
38. Gerald Rudolph Ford (Republican, Michigan) 1974–1977

39. Frank Forrester Church (Democratic, Idaho) 1977–1984 †
40. Birch Evans Bayh (Democratic, Indiana) 1984–1993

41. Paul Dominique Laxalt (Republican, Nevada) 1993–2001
42. James Danforth Quayle (Republican, Indiana) 2001–2005

43. Cynthia Jeanne Shaheen (Democratic, New Hampshire) 2005–2009
44. Willard Mitt Romney (Republican, Massachusetts) 2009–2013
43. Barack Hussein Obama (Democratic, Illinois) 2013–2021
44. Elizabeth Ann Warren (Democratic, Massachusetts) 2021–present
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« Reply #1159 on: October 03, 2021, 12:53:35 AM »

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
28. Thomas Woodrow Wilson (Democratic, New Jersey) 1913–1921
––. Edith Bolling Wilson (No party, District of Columbia) 1919–1921
29. Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican, Ohio) 1921–1923 †
30. John Calvin Coolidge (Republican, Massachusetts) 1923–1925

31. Robert Marion LaFollette, Sr. (Progressive, Wisconsin) 1925–1925 †
32. Jeanette Pickering Rankin (Progressive, Montana) 1925–1929

33. Herbert Clark Hoover (Republican, California) 1929–1933
34. Eleanor Roosevelt (Democratic→American Labor, New York) 1933–1949
35. Thomas Edward Dewey (Republican, New York) 1949–1953
36. William Averell Harriman (American Labor, New York) 1953–1957
37. Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican, California) 1957–1965
38. Hubert Horatio Humphrey (American Labor, Minnesota) 1965–1969
39. Ronald Wilson Reagan (Republican, California) 1969–1973
40. Hubert Horatio Humphrey (American Labor, Minnesota) 1973–1977
41. Maurine Brown Neuberger (American Labor, Oregon) 1977–1981

42. George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican, Texas) 1981–1989
43. Mary Elizabeth Hanford Dole (Republican, North Carolina) 1989–1993

44. William Jefferson Blythe (New Democratic, Arkansas) 1993–1998 *
45. Richard Craig Shelby (New Democratic, Alabama) 1998–2001

46. Olympia Bouchles Snowe (Republican, Maine) 2001–2009
47. Hillary Dianne Rodham (American Labor, Illinois) 2009–2017
48. Elizabeth Herring Warren (American Labor, Massachusetts) 2017–present
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« Reply #1160 on: October 06, 2021, 10:28:02 PM »

PRIME MINISTERS OF THE NATION OF INDIANA:

1. Oliver P. Morton (Republican) 1866-1878
2. Gilbert De La Matyr (Anti-Monopoly) 1878-1881
3. Benjamin Harrison (Republican) 1881-1889
4. Alvin Peterson Hovey (Republican) 1889-1891†
5. Winfield Durbin (Republican Conservative) 1891-1901
6. Charles Fairbanks (Republican Conservative) 1901-1913
7. Eugene Debs (Socialist Labor) 1913-1919
8. James Oneal (Socialist Labor) 1919-1922
9. James Eli Watson (Liberal) 1922-1930
10. Paul McNutt (Liberal) 1930-1936
11. William Jenner (National) 1936-1940
12. Charles LaFollette (Liberal) 1940-1950
13. Ralph Harvey (Liberal) 1950-1954
14. Matthew Welsh (Liberal) 1954-1960
15. Roger Brannigan (Liberal) 1960-1967
16. Vance Hartke (Social Democratic) 1967-1975
17. Birch Bayh (Social Democratic) 1975-1985
18. Richard Lugar (Liberal) 1985-1992
19. Dan Quayle (Liberal) 1992-1996
20. Evan Bayh (Social Democratic) 1996-2005
21. Becky Skillman (Liberal) 2005-2008
22. Mike Pence (Christian Heritage) 2008
23. Baron Hill (Social Democratic) 2008-2013
24. Andre Carson (Social Democratic) 2013-2016
25. Eric Holcomb (Liberal) 2016-Present
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« Reply #1161 on: October 10, 2021, 12:26:35 PM »

A flipped Ticket in '88:

41. Lloyd Bentsen / Michael Dukakis (Democratic): 1989-1997
Def. 1998: George Bush / Dan Quayle (Republican)
Def. 1992: Pete Wilson / Carroll Campbell (Republican)

42. John McCain / Tommy Thompson (Republican): 1997-2005
Def. 1996: Michael Dukakis / Bill Clinton (Democratic)
Def. 2000: Dick Gephardt / Bob Graham (Democratic)

43. Tommy Thompson / Tom Ridge (Republican): 2005-2009

Def. 2004: John Edwards / Bill Richardson (Democratic)
44. Joe Biden / Russ Feingold (Democratic): 2009-2017
Def. 2008: Tommy Thompson / Tom Ridge (Republican)
Def. 2012: Jon Huntsman / Mitch Daniels (Republican)

45. Ted Cruz / Scott Walker (Republican): 2017-2021
Def. 2016: Russ Feingold / Deval Patrick (Democratic)1
46. Sherrod Brown / Elizabeth Warren (Democratic): 2021-Present
Def. 2020: Ted Cruz / Scott Walker (Republican)
Def. 2024: Scott Walker / Kristi Noem (Republican)


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« Reply #1162 on: October 15, 2021, 01:45:34 AM »

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
1. George Washington (No party, Virginia) 1789–1793
2. Thomas Jefferson (Antifederalist, Virginia) 1793–1797
3. Alexander Hamilton (Federalist, New York) 1797–1802

FIRST CITIZENS of the UNITED STATES
Alexander I (Hamilton) 1802–1826 †
Alexander II (Hamilton) 1826–1830 *
Winfield (Scott) 1830–1848 *

PRESIDENTS of the CONFEDERATION CONGRESS
Charles Francis Adams (Liberal Republican, Massachusetts) 1848–1850
Thomas Hart Benton (Moderate Republican, Missouri) 1850–1850
Henry B. Payne (Moderate Republican, Indiania) 1850–1851

PRESIDENTS of the AMERICAN CONFEDERATION
1. William Henry Seward (Liberal Republican, New York) 1851–1855
2. Abraham Lincoln (Liberal Republican, Indiania) 1855–1859
3. Roscoe Conkling (Liberal Republican, New York) 1859–1863
4. Horatio Seymour (Moderate Republican, New York) 1863–1867
5. Andrew Johnson (Moderate Republican, Tennessee) 1867–1871
6. James Sherman (Progressive Republican, Ohio) 1871–1875
7. James Abram Garfield (Progressive Republican, Ohio) 1875–1879
8. James Gillespie Blaine (Progressive Republican, Massachusetts) 1879–1883
9. George Franklin Edmunds (Radical Republican, Vermont) 1883–1887
10. Stephen Grover Cleveland (Progressive Republican, New York) 1887–1891
11. Joseph Gurney Canon (Progressive Republican, Indiania) 1891–1895
12. Benjamin Harrison (Radical Republican, Ohio) 1895–1899
13. John Hay (Progressive Republican, Indiania) 1899–1903
14. Elihu Root (Progressive Republican, New York) 1903–1907
15. Gifford Pinchot (Radical Republican, Pennsylvania) 1907–1911
16. James Beauchamp Clark (Progressive Republican, Missouri) 1911–1915
17. Charles Evans Hughes (Republican Federation, New York) 1915–1919

PRESIDENTS of the AMERICAN UNION
18. Henry Cabot Lodge, Sr. (Republican Federation, Massachusetts) 1919–1923
19. Robert Marion La Follette (Radical-Socialist, Wisconsin) 1923–1925 †
20. John Calvin Coolidge (Republican Federation, Massachusetts) 1925–1927
21. James Eli Watson (Republican Federation, Michigan) 1927–1931
22. Norman Mattoon Thomas (Democratic Socialist, Erie) 1931–1935
23. Wendell Lewis Willkie (Democratic Republican Alliance, Michigan) 1935–1939
24. Paul Vories McNutt (Democratic Republican Alliance, Michigan) 1939–1945
25. Vincent Hallinan (American Section of the Workers' International, Alta California) 1945–1949
26. Thomas Edmund Dewey (National Union, New York) 1949–1953
27. Dwight David Eisenhower (Union of Democratic Republicans, Texas) 1953–1961
28. Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (Union of Democratic Republicans, Massachusetts) 1961–1965
29. Lyndon Baines Johnson (Union of Democratic Republicans, Texas) 1965–1971 †
30. Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller (Popular Republican Movement, New York) 1971–1975 †
31. Gerald Rudolph Ford (Popular Republican Movement, Michigan) 1975–1979
32. Mario Matthew Cuomo (Socialist, New York) 1979–1987
33. William Jefferson Blythe (Popular Republican Movement, Louisiana) 1987–1995
34. Albert Arnold Gore (Popular Republican Movement, Tennessee) 1995–1999
36. Paul David Wellstone (Socialist, Wisconsin) 1999–2002 ‡
37. Mitchell Elias Daniels (Republican Union, Michigan) 2002–2010
38. Mark Emery Udall (Socialist, Arizona) 2010–2014
39. Martin Joseph O'Malley (Democratic Center, Maryland) 2014–present
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« Reply #1163 on: October 15, 2021, 10:31:37 PM »
« Edited: December 12, 2021, 09:25:01 PM by KaiserDave »

Hamilton's autocracy was originally my idea, but Truman did very well with it of course. Here is my version.

Presidents of the United States
George Washington (Independent) 1789-1797
Alexander Hamilton (Federalist) 1797-1804 [1]
First Citizens of the American Republic
Alexander Hamilton (Hamiltonian) 1804-1831
Alexander Hamilton II (Hamiltonian) 1831-1835 [2]
Winfield Scott (Military) 1835-1848 [3]
Presidents of the Confederation Congress of the Second American Republic
Charles Francis Adams (Republican) 1848-1852
William Henry Seward (Republican) 1852-1859 [4]

Presidents of the Third American Republic
Abraham Lincoln (Republican) 1859-1863
Salmon P. Chase (Republican) 1863-1867
Schuyler Colfax (Republican) 1867-1869 [5]

Samuel J. Tilden (Liberal Republican) 1869-1871
Thomas F. Bayard (Conservative) 1871-1875
James A. Garfield (Liberal Republican) 1875-1879
George F. Hoar (Liberal Republican) 1879-1883

Roscoe Conkling (Republican) 1883-1887
Charles Francis Adams Jr. (Liberal Republican) 1887-1891
S. Grover Cleveland (Liberal Republican) 1891-1895
Richard Olney (Liberal Republican) 1895-1889
Mark A. Hanna (Republican) 1989-1902 [6]
Levi P. Morton (Republican) 1902-1903

John M. Hay (Progressive Republican) 1903-1907
Joseph Gurney Cannon (Republican) 1907-1911
Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive Republican) 1911-1915
Presidents of the Fourth American Republic
Charles Evan Hughes (Progressive Republican) 1915-1919 [7]
Robert La Follette (Popular Republican) 1919-1923
Burton K. Wheeler (American Labor) 1923-1927
Charles G. Dawes (Conservative and Union) 1927-1931
Norman M. Thomas (American Labor) 1931-1933 [8]
George Van Horn Moseley (American Legion) 1933-1933 [8]
Huey P. Long (Workers') 1933-1937 [9]
Presidents of the Fifth American Republic
Floyd B. Olson (Farmer-Labor) 1937-1942
Henry A. Wallace (Farmer-Labor) 1942-1946
Thomas E. Dewey (National Union) 1946-1954
Presidents of the Sixth American Republic
Dwight D. Eisenhower (National Union) 1954-1962 [10]
Nelson A. Rockefeller (National Union) 1962-1970
Hubert H. Humphrey (Farmer-Labor) 1970-1974
Henry M. Jackson (Farmer-Labor) 1974-1976
Henry M. Jackson (Progress) 1976-1982 [11]
Ronald Reagan (Liberty) 1982-1990
Nancy Kassebaum (Liberty) 1990-1994
Paul E. Tsongas (Progress) 1994-1998
Steve Forbes (Liberty) 1998-2002
Paul Wellstone (Socialist Labor) 2002-2010
Bernie Sanders (Socialist Labor) 2010-2018
Erin O'Toole (Progressive Conservative) 2018-Present

[1] Hamilton consolidated near absolute control of the Federal government as the Quasi War erupted into open war between the United States and France. President Hamilton passed a strong Alien and Sedition Act, established a large standing army, and arrested Thomas Jefferson as a potential French agent. By 1804, he had staffed the government and army with Federalists, and nobody could stand against him as he declared himself First Citizen of the American Republic, with a new federalist constitution to boot. Within a decade the states were abolished and replaced with administrative districts. Aaron Burr attempted a rebellion in Illinois, but his forces were defeated and he was hung.

[2] Alexander Hamilton II was acclaimed by the Republic Cabinet as First Citizen, succeeding his father as head of the quasi-monarchical American government. He was ineffective however, and resentment was building against the Hamilton dynasty. The advanced and industrialized nation had a growing urban working class dissatisfied with the status quo, and what was left of the common farmer was a constant enemy of the Hamiltonian order.  Hamilton badges were burned in private, and revolutionaries began to gather arms and correspond. In 1935, spontaneous riots boiled over into armed insurrection. The army, seeking an end to the violence swept in and bloodlessly removed Hamilton, who fled into an English exile.


[3] Winfield Scott presided over a military dictatorship as First Citizen. He inherited the Hamiltonian order without making many changes. He led a successful war against Mexico to acquire the west, and further industrialized. However, the radical 1848 revolutions of Europe spread across the Atlantic, and liberal and nationalist agitators in America, reading of the events of Europe, began inciting violence in the United States. The riots evolved into a revolution of the masses (powered by many new immigrant workers to support the booming textile industry), as just in France, the old order tumbled down. Scott resigned and fled to Canada. Moderate liberals led by Charles Francis Adams established a new government, with new checks on executive power, a single term limit, and a new constitution which provided for the election of a unicameral legislature which would in turn elect the President. The extensive property requirements to vote of the old order were replaced with a poll tax, expanding the franchise to the growing middle class.

[4] Outrage across the south as anti-slavery liberal William Henry Seward was elected President of the Confederation Congress. After a tenuous first year, states began seceding from the union in opposition to Seward's opposition to the expansion of slavery. A great Civil War had begun. The war dragged on for years, including great civil strife in the north from anti-war mobs opposed to emancipating slaves. But Seward skillfully managed to hold on to middle class and military support, and after an extraordinary term extension and six years of war, the war is won and slavery is abolished. A new constitution, recognizing the radical new post war reality is adopted after the peace is concluded and reconstruction commences. The new constitution has a slightly more powerful executive, but continues the indirect election system, black men who can pay a poll tax are granted the vote.

[5] President Colfax is removed after the Crédit Mobilier fraud scandal leading to a backlash among anti corruption Republicans, led by Samuel Tilden and called the Liberal Republicans.

[6] President Hanna is shot and killed by an Italian anarchist. His death represents widespread public anger and misery over the extensive inequalities of the Gilded Age, this includes a growing and increasingly militant socialist and labor current, as well as the new reform minded Progressive Republicans.

[7] On the verge of violence, President Hughes makes an informal bargain with labor leaders in 1916 that he will implement universal male suffrage if they abstain from agitating against US intervention in the Great War. After the war is won, Hughes makes good on his promise and establishes the Fourth Republic. This leads to Popular Republicans led Robert La Follette smashing the establishment with a landslide 1918 victory.

[8] President Norman Thomas, elected amidst economic calamity comes into office with a radical agenda of massive expansion of government powers, extensive economic regulation and intervention, and government planning. He also eases immigration, and proposes broad civil and individual rights protections. Thomas's socialist and pacifist ideology is unacceptable to the business and finance class, who plan and attempt a putsch composed of conservative veterans organizations and soldiers headed by right wing General George Van Horn Moseley. President Thomas is (mistakenly) shot and killed during the chaos. Moseley is made Provisional President, but this presidency is not recognized as legal, legitimate, or practically in effect. Louisiana firebrand and congressman Huey Long gathers an angry mob in D.C. to avenge President Thomas and stop the coup. With the support of armed workers and after brief violence, the putschists stand down and Huey Long is elected President.

[9] President Long uses his political skill and muscle, with the support of militant unions and his fanatically loyal support among the common people to establish personal rule over the Republic. He implements a redistributionist economic agenda, with massive new taxes on the rich to finance an extensive social safety net, massive new public works programs, and social security for the elderly. He uses a combination of bribes, threats, and acts of violence to maintain power. However he is still assassinated by an enraged gunman in 1937. Despite fears of a violent power struggle, left wing congressman and previously a regional administrator Floyd Olson becomes President, and calls for peace and tranquility. After a few years of Olson restoring calm, civility, and eliminating Long's autocratic norms, Japan strikes Pearl Harbor and America goes to war.

[10] During the Dewey and Eisenhower administrations, constitutional changes are adapted to preserve the Republic and maintain stability. These changes establish stronger protections for individual freedoms, establish a two term limit instead of one, establishes citizenship for all children born to citizens, and establish an affirmative right to vote, and most importantly the direct popular vote election of the President, with the separation of the executive and legislative branches.

[11] The Farmer-Labor Alliance comes to an end as Jackson's aggressively anti-communist foreign policy alienates many socialists. Jackson continues as President leading the new Progress Party.












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« Reply #1164 on: October 19, 2021, 06:10:16 AM »
« Edited: October 19, 2021, 08:20:58 AM by Senator and Chair WB »

Richard Nixon (R-D Conservative)/John F. Kennedy (R-D Liberal): 1961-1963*
John F. Kennedy/John McCormack (R-D Liberal)#: 1963†
John McCormack#/Carl Hayden# (R-D Liberal): 1963-1965
Robert F. Kennedy/Hubert Humphrey (NPP-Center): 1965-1967*
'64 defeated Wallace Bennett/Gerald Ford (R-D Conservative)
Hubert H. Humphrey/Henry M. Jackson (NPP-Center): 1967-1977
'68 defeated Barry Goldwater/Spiro Agnew (R-D Conservative), '72 defeated Spiro Agnew/John Ashbrook (R-D Conservative)
Edmund Muskie (R-D Liberal)/Jimmy Carter (R-D Conservative): 1977-1979
'76 defeated Frank Church/Pete McCloskey (NPP) and Jeane Kirkpatrick/Sam Yorty (Patriot's Party)
Edmund Muskie /Jimmy Carter (R-D Liberal): 1979-1981**
Henry M. Jackson/Shirley Chisholm (NPP): 1981-1983††
'80 defeated John Ashbrook/Ronald Reagan (R-D Conservative)
Shirley Chisholm/Walter Mondale (NPP): 1983-

*Resigned under threat of impeachment
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« Reply #1165 on: November 01, 2021, 08:16:46 AM »


President Kerry talking with former Presidents Gore and Biden, 2021

41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 1989-1997
42. Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Biden (D-DE) 1997-2005
43. Jeb Bush (R-FL)/Tom Ridge (R-PA) 2005-2009
44. Joe Biden (D-DE)/Barack Obama (D-IL) 2009-2013
45. John McCain (R-AZ)/Olympia Snowe (R-ME) 2013-2017
46. John Kerry (D-MA)/Tim Kaine (D-VA) 2017-present
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« Reply #1166 on: November 03, 2021, 03:44:09 AM »
« Edited: November 03, 2021, 04:31:45 AM by bagelman »

46. Joe Biden (Democratic Party-Delaware) 2021-2024
Acting/disputed: Kamala Harris (Democratic Party-California) 2024-2025
Acting/disputed: Donald Trump (Republican Party-Florida) 2024
47. Joe Manchin (New Federalist Party-West Virginia) 2025-2029
48. Kurt Schrader (New Federalist Party-Oregon) 2029-2033
49. Scott Peters (New Federalist Party-California) 2033-2041
50. Krystan Sinema (New Federalist Party-Arizona) 2041-2049
51. Jared Golden (New Federalist Party-Maine) 2049-2057


Joe Biden ruled largely by executive order and is considered to have truly abused his power, snapping into an angry state after the GOP seemed poised to win big in the 2022 midterm elections. The GOP, lead by an increasingly demented Donald Trump, violently rebelled. The result was the arrest of President Biden as a result of an impeachment that turned out to be unconstitutional, his reinstatement, his suspicious death, and an attempted coup that occurred immediately afterward. The 2024 election was almost canceled as America would, for several months, collapse into true civil conflict.

Officially according to the GOP, Donald Trump was elected Speaker of the House which was controlled by the GOP. President Biden and Vice President Harris were both impeached for serious abuse of power, and Trump ascended to the Presidency. Trump had also won the GOP nomination for President for the 2024, and had also won the general election even though that hadn't happened yet. He also openly espoused that he was the true winner in 2020 as the fighting escalated. However, Donald Trump died in September and he had never selected a running mate due to the war.

Officially according to the Democrats, Joe Biden was President until he died in 2024, then Kamala Harris ascended to the office. However Harris had not won the Democratic Party's nomination cleanly, and Joe Manchin disputed her claim. Kamala Harris became deeply unpopular with Americans for her part in the civil war of 2024, and Joe Manchin emerged as a clear alternative. Manchin appealed to Republicans with a conservative campaign and doing the one thing that really mattered: making a show of leaving the Democratic party (while still being considered the Democratic candidate by many state parties) to set himself apart from them in the minds of conservative white voters.

The result is that Manchin won the 2024 election against Kamala Harris and an empty Republican ticket. To avoid another insurrection by Trumpists, Kamala Harris never formally assumed the title of POTUS, which remained empty until the inauguration of Joe Manchin in 2025.

The conservative (but not reactionary) New Federalist Party was formed by Manchin and has controlled the white house for over 30 years. Each President was a congressperson under Biden, who is depicted by history as a socialist who fancied himself the next FDR. Although Manchin and Schrader failed to establish the old tradition of retiring after one term, the President during this time provided a check on Congress as a moderate force of government. However it looks like the Democrats and Republicans are back to play in 2056 and it looks likely that one of them will win.

The Republicans are similar to old style moderate conservative Republicans who support a Christian religious revival and the American ideal of the smallholder, while Democrats are similar to Bernie Sanders style progressives more connected with international gaian movements gaining traction worldwide in the face of climate change. The Federalists are viewed as out of step in this new age, having run out of old early 20s era congresspeople, the early 20s being viewed as a time that America badly needs to move on from, especially as there are plenty of voters who did not exist yet during that time.

Because Kamala Harris is not viewed as a legitimate President, Barack Obama is the only nonwhite President to have ever served, and Sinema is the first woman to be President (and the first non-straight person, as there has yet to be a First Gentleman in the White House). Despite this, many Democrats view woke politics as a waste of time, a lesser priority at best if not a hallmark of a bygone age, when the real problems facing America are clearly environmental.
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« Reply #1167 on: November 20, 2021, 11:26:45 AM »

A List of Presidents made by people who never ran for President

34. Leverett Saltonstall/William Knowland 1953-1961
35. William Knowland/Thruston B. Morton 1961-1965
36. Joseph Clark/Thomas Dodd 1965-1969, Abraham Ribioff 1969-1973
37. Mark Hatfield/Roman Hruska 1973-1977
38. Hugh Carey/John Tunney 1977-1985
39. John Tunney/Henry Cisneros 1985-1989
40. John Chafee/Dick Thornburgh 1989-1995
41. Dick Thornburgh/vacant 1995-1997, Jim Edgar 1997-2001
42. Mario Cuomo/Jim Hunt 2001-2009
43. Tom Ridge/Chuck Hagel 2009-2013
44. Mark Warner/Al Franken 2013-2017
45. Bob Eherlich/Brian Sandoval 2017-2021
46. Bob Casey/Sherrod Brown 2021-2025

Losing Tickets

1952: Ernest McFarland/Herbert Lehman
1956: Robert F. Wagner Jr./J. William Fulbright
1960: Albert Gore/G. Mennen Williams
1964: William Knowland/Thruston B. Morton
1968: Thruston B. Morton/John Davis Lodge
1972: Abraham Ribicoff/Dan Moore
1976: Mark Hatfield/Roman Hruska
1980: H. John Heinz III/Al Quie
1984: H. John Heinz III/Thad Cochran
1988: John Tunney/Henry Cisneros
1992: Jay Rockefeller/Sam Nunn
1996: George Mitchell/Harris Wofford
2000: John Danforth/Connie Mack III
2004: Colin Powell/Bill Frist
2008: Tom Daschle/Russ Feingold
2012: Tom Ridge/Chuck Hagel
2016: Mark Warner/Jeff Merkley
2020: Bob Eherlich/Brian Sandoval
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« Reply #1168 on: November 21, 2021, 05:33:21 PM »

Franklin Roosevelt (Democratic) 1933-1941
Franklin Roosevelt (Liberal) 1941-1945
Wendell Willkie (Liberal) 1945-1949
Thomas Dewey (Republican) 1949-1957
Earl Warren (Republican) 1957-1965
Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (Republican) 1965-1969
George Wallace (Democratic) 1969-1973
Richard Nixon (Republican) 1973-1977
Scoop Jackson (Democratic) 1977-1981
Mario Cuomo (Liberal) 1981-1989
Jesse Jackson (Liberal) 1989-1997
Mitt Romney (Democratic) 1997-2005
Mary Landrieu (Democratic) 2005-2009
Tammy Baldwin (Liberal) 2009-2017
Paul Ryan (Democratic) 2017-
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« Reply #1169 on: November 22, 2021, 11:11:10 AM »

Dream TL;

46. Joe Biden; (2021-2029)
47. Kamala Harris; (2029-2037)
48. Michelle Obama; (2037-2045)
49. Andrew Yang; (2045-2053)
50. Malia Obama; (2053-2061)
51; Sasha Obama; (2061-2069)
52; Me; (2069-2077) (I would assume the birth rule is scrapped by then)
52; Natalie Biden; (2077-2085)
53; Robert Hunter Biden; (2085-2093)
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« Reply #1170 on: November 24, 2021, 02:43:45 AM »
« Edited: November 24, 2021, 02:56:29 AM by Old School Republican »

What if the Republican Party Died after 1936:

32. Franklin Roosevelt(Dem): 1933-1939
32: Franklin Roosevelt(Liberal): 1939-1945
33. Herbert Lehman(Liberal): 1945-1953
34. Dwight Eisenhower(Conservative): 1953-1961
35: John F Kennedy(Liberal): 1961-1963
36: Hubert Humphrey(Liberal): 1963-1969
37: Storm Thurmond(Conservative): 1969-1973
38: Edmund Muskie(Liberal): 1973-1981
39: Ronald Reagan(Conservative): 1981-1989
40: Jack Kemp(Conservative): 1989-1997
41: Al Gore(Liberal): 1997-2005
42: Joe Biden(Liberal): 2005-2009
43: Jeb Bush(Conservative): 2009-2017
44: Elizabeth Warren(Liberal): 2017-Present



1. Basically the 1936 elections go even worse for the GOP down-ballot causing the party to disintegrate completely into two separate parties called the conservatives and the progressives. Then in 1937 the Anti New Deal Democrats are forced out of the Democratic party and they all go join the conservatives which leads to massive losses for the Democrats in 1938(nearly costing them their majority as much of the south goes hard against them as well) . The Democratic party and Progressives after that election merge to form the Liberal Party which creates a two party system of the liberals and conservatives.

2. The Conservatives in the 1940s are basically stuck as an extremely disorganized party in the Deep South, Plains and Upper New England until Dwight Eisenhower joins them in 1952 and sweeps the conservatives into power for the first time ever.

3. After 8 years of Eisenhower though, the Conservatives which were clearly carried by Eisenhower collapses once again leading to 8 years of Liberal Dominance

4. In 1968 Strom Thurmond basically rides the civil rights backlash wave to the presidency but his presidency ends in total disaster leaving the conservatives as a rump deep south party for the next 8 years

5. The Liberals Dominance end as the crises of 1979-1980 cause the West to Swing hard with favorite son Ronald Reagan, and many middle class voters in the Midwest and North East to vote for Reagan which leads to 16 years of Conservative Dominance

6. After 16 years in the Wilderness Al Gore/Joe Biden sweep in on a moderate Liberal platform and govern for the next 12 years

7. The 2008 financial crises puts an end to New Liberal Dominance(which had dominated the late 90s and 00s due to a good economy and the war on terror) and causes Jeb Bush to win

8. 8 Years after Jeb Bush, Elizabeth Warren sweeps into power on populist anger and is the current president
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« Reply #1171 on: November 26, 2021, 03:56:21 PM »
« Edited: November 26, 2021, 04:07:30 PM by its_gi_brown »

List of U.S. presidents, 1945-2033


33. Thomas Dewey (1945-1953)
VP: Earl Warren


Grade for presidency: B-


34. Adlai Stevenson (1953-1961)
VP: Estes Kefauver


Grade for presidency: B+


35. Estes Kefauver (1961-1963*)
VP: Hubert Humphrey


Grade for presidency: C+


36. Hubert Humphrey (1963-1969)
VP: vacant (1963-1965), Edmund Muskie (1965-1969)


Grade for presidency: A-


37. Nelson Rockefeller (1969-1977)
VP: George Romney


Grade for presidency: B+


38. Frank Church (1977-1984*)
VP: Fred Harris


Grade for presidency: A+


39. Fred Harris (1984-1985)
VP: Martha Collins


Grade for presidency: C


40. George Bush (1985-1993)
VP: Bob Dole


Grade for presidency: B-


41. Bob Dole (1993-1997)
VP: Jack Kemp


Grade for presidency: C


42. Al Gore (1997-2001)
VP: Henry Cisneros


Grade for presidency: B+


43. John Danforth (2001-2006**)
VP: Tom Ridge


Grade for presidency: D-


44. Tom Ridge (2006-2009)
VP: John McCain


Grade for presidency: D+


45. Barack Obama (2009-2017)
VP: Tim Kaine


Grade for presidency: C+


46. Marco Rubio (2017-2025)
VP: Nikki Haley


Grade for presidency: C+


47. Andy Beshear (2025-2033)
VP: Tammy Duckworth


Grade for presidency: B-



NOTES:

1. * denotes that this president died in office.

2. ** denotes that this president resigned from office.

3. A president's "grade" is how historians view their presidency as of 2033, in a perspective that is as unbiased as possible.

4. The color red denotes a Democratic president, while blue denotes a Republican.
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« Reply #1172 on: November 26, 2021, 08:47:11 PM »

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
1. John Adams (Federal, Massachusetts) 1789–1797
2. Thomas Jefferson (Republican, Virginia) 1797–1801
3. John Marshall (Federal, Virginia) 1801–1809
4. George Clinton (Republican, New York) 1809–1812 †
Acting. James Monroe (Republican, Virginia) 1812–1813

5. DeWitt Clinton (Democratic, New York) 1813–1821
6. William Henry Harrison (Independent, Pennsylvania) 1821–1825
7. John Quincy Adams (Democratic, Massachusetts) 1825–1833
8. Joseph Ritner (Democratic, Pennsylvania) 1833–1837

9. Martin Van Buren (Constitutional, New York) 1837–1841
10. John McClean (Democratic, Ohio) 1841–1845
11. John Tyler (Constitutional, Virginia) 1845–1849
12. James Knox Polk (National, Tennessee) 1849–1849 †
Acting. Thomas Hart Benton (National, Missouri) 1849–1853

13. Joseph Albert Wright (Democratic, Indiana) 1853–1861
14. Abraham Lincoln (Democratic, Illinois) 1861–1865
15. Cassius Marcellus Clay (Democratic, Kentucky) 1865–1869

16. Zebulon Baird Vance (Whig, North Carolina) 1869–1873
17. Benjamin Harrison (Democratic, Indiana) 1873–1877
18. Thomas Andrews Hendricks (Whig, Indiana) 1877–1881
19. Frederick Law Olmsted (Liberal, New York) 1881–1889
20. John Milton Hay (Liberal, Illinois) 1889–1893

21. William Starke Rosecrans (Whig, California) 1893–1894 †
Acting. William Hayden English (Whig, Indiana) 1894–1897

22. Robert Todd Lincoln (Liberal, New York) 1897–1901 ‡
23. Albert Jeremiah Beveridge (Liberal, Indiana) 1901–1909
24. Theodore Roosevelt, Sr. (Liberal, New York) 1909–1919 †[/quote]
Acting. William Howard Taft (National Liberal, Ohio) 1919–1921
25. Henry Cabot Lodge, Sr. (National Liberal, Massachusetts) 1921–1925

26. Robert Marion La Follette (Farmer-Labor, Wisconsin) 1925–1925 †
Acting. Upton Beall Sinclair (Farmer-Labor, California) 1925–1929

27. Frank Orren Lowden (National Liberal, Illinois) 1929–1933
28. Huey Pierce Long (Workingmen's, Louisiana) 1933–1935 ‡
Acting. Francis Everett Townsend (Workingmen's, California) 1935–1937

29. Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. (National Liberal, New York) 1937–1949
30. Norman Mattoon Thomas (Farmer-Labor, New York) 1949–1953
31. Richard Milhous Nixon (National Liberal, California) 1953–1957
(30.) Norman Mattoon Thomas (Farmer-Labor, New York) 1957–1961
32. Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller (National Liberal, New York) 1961–1969
33. Hubert Horatio Humphrey (Farmer-Labor, Minnesota) 1969–1981
34. Howard Henry Baker (National Liberal, Tennessee) 1981–1993
35. George Herbert Walker Bush (National Liberal, Texas) 1993–1997

36. Albert Arnold Gore (Farmer-Labor, Tennessee) 1997–2005
37. Richard Andrew Gephardt (Farmer-Labor, Missouri) 2005–2009

38. Willard Mitt Romney (National Liberal, Massachusetts) 2009–2017
39. Nimrata Randhawa Haley (National Liberal, South Carolina) 2017–present
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« Reply #1173 on: November 30, 2021, 06:06:57 PM »

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
1. Benedict Arnold (Federalist, Connecticut) 1786–1794
2. Horatio Lloyd Gates (Antifederalist, New York) 1794–1798
3. Alexander Hamilton (Federalist, New York) 1798–1806
4. Timothy Pickering (Federalist, Massachusetts) 1806–1810

5. Albert Gallatin (Democratic, Pennsylvania) 1810–1822
6. William Findlay (Democratic, Pennsylvania) 1822–1830

7. William Henry Harrison (Independent, Ohio) 1830–1838
8. Smith Thompson (Independent, New York) 1838–1842

9. Ratliff Boon (Democratic, Indiana) 1842–1844 †
10. Thomas Wilson Dorr (Democratic, Illinois) 1844–1846

11. Daniel Webster (Independent, Massachusetts) 1846–1850
12. Lewis Cass (Democratic, Michigan) 1850–1858
13. Stephen Arnold Douglas (Democratic, Illinois) 1858–1862

14. William Henry Seward (National, New York) 1862–1870
15. Henry Whitney Bellows (National, New York) 1870–1878

16. Benjamin Franklin Butler (People's, Massachusetts) 1878–1882
17. James Gillespie Blaine (National, Maine) 1882–1886
18. William Tecumseh Sherman (National, Ohio) 1886–1890
19. William McKinley (National, Ohio) 1890–1894

20. John McAuley Palmer (Free Trade, New York) 1894–1898
21. Russell Alexander Alger (National, Michigan) 1898–1902
22. Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive, North Dakota) 1902–1914
23. Robert Marion La Follette (Progressive, Wisconsin) 1914–1918

24. Henry Cabot Lodge, Sr. (National, Massachusetts) 1918–1926
25. Henry Ford (National, Michigan) 1926–1930

26. Alfred Emmanuel Smith (Progressive, New York) 1930–1934
27. Frank Orren Lowden (National, Illinois) 1934–1940 †
28. Earl Warren (National, California) 1940–1950

29. Dwight David Eisenhower (No party, Pennsylvania) 1950–1958
30. Hubert Horatio Humphrey (Farmer-Labor, Minnesota) 1958–1970
31. Spiro Theodore Agnew (Conservative, Maryland) 1970–1973 *
32. Ronald Wilson Reagan (Conservative, California) 1973–1974

33. Walter Frederick Mondale (Farmer-Labor, Minnesota) 1974–1982
34. Birch Evans Bayh (Farmer-Labor, Indiana) 1982–1986

35. James Lane Buckley (Conservative, New York) 1986–1998
37. Paul David Wellstone (Farmer-Labor, Minnesota) 1998–2004 ‡
38. John Forbes Kerry (Farmer-Labor, Massachusetts) 2004–2010

39. Willard Mitt Romney (Conservative, Massachusetts) 2010–2018
40. Amy Jean Klobuchar (Farmer-Labor, Minnesota) 2018–present
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« Reply #1174 on: December 01, 2021, 06:40:35 AM »

What if the Republican Party Died after 1936:

32. Franklin Roosevelt(Dem): 1933-1939
32: Franklin Roosevelt(Liberal): 1939-1945
33. Herbert Lehman(Liberal): 1945-1953
34. Dwight Eisenhower(Conservative): 1953-1961
35: John F Kennedy(Liberal): 1961-1963
36: Hubert Humphrey(Liberal): 1963-1969
37: Storm Thurmond(Conservative): 1969-1973
38: Edmund Muskie(Liberal): 1973-1981
39: Ronald Reagan(Conservative): 1981-1989
40: Jack Kemp(Conservative): 1989-1997
41: Al Gore(Liberal): 1997-2005
42: Joe Biden(Liberal): 2005-2009
43: Jeb Bush(Conservative): 2009-2017
44: Elizabeth Warren(Liberal): 2017-Present



1. Basically the 1936 elections go even worse for the GOP down-ballot causing the party to disintegrate completely into two separate parties called the conservatives and the progressives. Then in 1937 the Anti New Deal Democrats are forced out of the Democratic party and they all go join the conservatives which leads to massive losses for the Democrats in 1938(nearly costing them their majority as much of the south goes hard against them as well) . The Democratic party and Progressives after that election merge to form the Liberal Party which creates a two party system of the liberals and conservatives.

2. The Conservatives in the 1940s are basically stuck as an extremely disorganized party in the Deep South, Plains and Upper New England until Dwight Eisenhower joins them in 1952 and sweeps the conservatives into power for the first time ever.

3. After 8 years of Eisenhower though, the Conservatives which were clearly carried by Eisenhower collapses once again leading to 8 years of Liberal Dominance

4. In 1968 Strom Thurmond basically rides the civil rights backlash wave to the presidency but his presidency ends in total disaster leaving the conservatives as a rump deep south party for the next 8 years

5. The Liberals Dominance end as the crises of 1979-1980 cause the West to Swing hard with favorite son Ronald Reagan, and many middle class voters in the Midwest and North East to vote for Reagan which leads to 16 years of Conservative Dominance

6. After 16 years in the Wilderness Al Gore/Joe Biden sweep in on a moderate Liberal platform and govern for the next 12 years

7. The 2008 financial crises puts an end to New Liberal Dominance(which had dominated the late 90s and 00s due to a good economy and the war on terror) and causes Jeb Bush to win

8. 8 Years after Jeb Bush, Elizabeth Warren sweeps into power on populist anger and is the current president

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