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« Reply #1125 on: August 09, 2021, 11:28:42 PM »

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
1. George Washington (No party, Virginia) 1789–1797
2. John Adams (Federalist, Massachusetts) 1797–1801
3. Thomas Jefferson (Republican, Virginia) 1801–1809
4. James Madison (Republican, Virginia) 1809–1817

5. Morgan Lewis (Constitutional, New York) 1817–1821
6. DeWitt Clinton (Democratic, New York) 1821–1828 †
7. Henry Clay (Democratic, Kentucky) 1828–1833

8. Martin Van Buren (Constitutional, New York) 1833–1841
9. James Buchanan (Constitutional, Pennsylvania) 1841–1845

10. Thomas Hart Benton (Democratic, Missouri) 1845–1849
11. Louis McLane (Constitutional, Delaware) 1849–1850 †
12. Millard Fillmore (Constitutional, New York) 1850–1853

13. Joseph Arnold Wright (Democratic, Indiana) 1853–1861
14. Stephen Arnold Douglas (Democratic, Illinois) 1861–1861 †
15. Abraham Lincoln (Democratic, Nebraska) 1861–1865

16. Louis Trezevant Wigfall (Constitutional, Texas) 1865–1869
17. Andrew Johnson (Democratic, Tennessee) 1869–1873
18. Francis Preston Blair, Jr. (Democratic, Missouri) 1873–1877
19. Samuel Jones Tilden (Democratic, New York) 1877–1877 *

20. Zebulon Baird Vance (Constitutional, North Carolina) 1877–1885
21. James Longstreet (Constitutional, Georgia) 1885–1889
22. John Warwick Daniel (Constitutional, Virginia) 1889–1897
23. Charles Brantley Aycock (Constitutional, North Carolina) 1897–1901

24. Eugene Victor Debs (People's, Indiana) 1901–1901 *
25. Charles Brantley Aycock (Constitutional, North Carolina) 1901–1905
26. Oscar Wilder Underwood (Progressive, Alabama) 1905–1913
27. Thomas Woodrow Wilson (Progressive, Virginia) 1913–1921
28. Thomas Riley Marshall (Progressive, Indiana) 1921–1925

29. David Curtiss Stephenson (Constitutional, Kansas) 1925–1929 ‡
30. Edward L. Jackson (Constitutional, Indiana) 1929–1933
31. Coke Robert Stevenson (Constitutional, Texas) 1933–1937

32. Huey Pierce Long (Workingmen's, Louisiana) 1937–1940 ‡
33. Henry Agard Wallace (Workingmen's, Iowa) 1940–1949

34. Douglas MacArthur (National, Arkansas) 1949–1950 ‡
35. Joseph Raymond McCarthy (National, Dakota) 1950–1954 ^

36. Lyndon Baines Johnson (National Progressive, Texas) 1954–1965
37. Birch Evans Bayh (National Progressive, Indiana) 1965–1968 ‡
38. James Terry Sanford (National Progressive, North Carolina) 1968–1969

39. Spiro Theodore Agnew (National, Maryland) 1969–1973 ^
40. Donald Henry Rumsfeld (National, Illinois) 1973–1977

41. James Earl Carter (National Progressive, Georgia) 1977–1981
42. Richard Milhous Nixon (National, Ohio) 1981–1989
43. Alexander Meigs Haig (National, Pennsylvania) 1989–1993

44. Edmund Gerald Brown (Reform, California) 1993–2001
45. Albert Arnold Gore (Reform, Tennessee) 2001–2005

46. John Cornyn (National, Texas) 2005–2009
47. Kathleen Gilligan Sebelius (Reform, Kansas) 2009–2013
48. Sarah Heath Palin (American People's, Alaska) 2013–2017
49. Hillary Dianne Rodham (Stronger Together, Illinois) 2017–present

† Died in office of natural causes
‡ Assassinated
* Removed by court order
^ Impeached and removed from office
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« Reply #1126 on: August 12, 2021, 11:44:30 PM »

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES (1981-)
Ronald Reagan/George HW Bush (1981-1989)
Michael Dukakis/Lee Hamilton (1989-1993)
Ross Perot/Dick Lugar (1993-2001)
Andrew Cuomo/Jim Hunt (2001-2003)
Jim Hunt/Mark Warner (2003-2013)
Bill Clinton/Cathy Cox (2013-2017)
Chris Christie/Jim Webb (2017-)

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« Reply #1127 on: August 13, 2021, 01:16:00 PM »

43. Bob Dole (R-KS) with Paul Laxalt (R-NV)*** - January 20, 1997 to January 20, 2001
44. Al Gore (D-TN) with Bob Graham (D-FL) - January 20, 2001 to January 20, 2009
Why is Dole a one-termer?
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« Reply #1128 on: August 13, 2021, 01:18:53 PM »

43. Bob Dole (R-KS) with Paul Laxalt (R-NV)*** - January 20, 1997 to January 20, 2001
44. Al Gore (D-TN) with Bob Graham (D-FL) - January 20, 2001 to January 20, 2009
Why is Dole a one-termer?

The only reason Dole wins in 1996 is because the country doesn't want twelve consecutive years of Democratic rule. However, they are sick of the Republicans after one term and Dole loses reelection. (Kind of like how Bill Clinton lost reelection and then bounced back in 1982.)
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« Reply #1129 on: August 15, 2021, 03:23:51 AM »

Dole does it in '88:

41. Bob Dole / Lamar Alexander (Republican): 1989-1993
Def. 1988: Michael Dukakis / Bill Clinton (Democratic)
42. Mario Cuomo / Bob Graham (Democratic): 1993-2001
Def. 1992: Bob Dole / Lamar Alexander (Republican)
Def. 1996: Lamar Alexander / Tommy Thompson (Republican)

43. Bob Graham / Ann Richards (Democratic): 2001-2005
Def. 2000: John McCain / Elizabeth Dole (Republican)
44. Fred Thompson / George Allen (Republican): 2005-2013
Def. 2004: Bob Graham / John Kerry * (Democratic)
Def. 2008: Joe Biden / Bill Richardson (Democratic)

45. Andrew Cuomo / Russ Feingold (Democratic): 2013-2014^
Def. 2012: George Allen / Tim Pawlenty (Republican)
46. Russ Feingold / Vacant (Democratic): 2014
46. Russ Feingold / Deval Patrick (Democratic): 2014-2017
47. Ted Cruz / Norm Coleman (Republican): 2017-2021
Def. 2016: Russ Feingold / Deval Patrick (Democratic)
48. Sherrod Brown / Karen Bass (Democratic): 2021-2029
Def. 2020: Ted Cruz / Norm Coleman (Republican)
Def. 2024: Ted Cruz / Kristi Noem (Republican)

49. Stacey Abrams / Beto O'Rourke (Democratic): 2029-Incumbent
Def. 2028: Ron DeSantis / Tim Scott (Republican)


*= VP Richards declines to seek a 2nd term as VP citing Health Issues
^= President Andrew Cuomo resigned August 3rd, 2014 due to Sexually Harassing Women in the White House and as Governor of New York and retaliating against victims who came forward.
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« Reply #1130 on: August 15, 2021, 07:33:18 AM »
« Edited: January 30, 2022, 08:19:37 PM by bagelman »

41. George Bush (R-TX) 1989-1993

42. George Milk (D-NY) 1993-1997

George Milk is essentially a northern DLC Democratic, who rose through the ranks of the organization by relentlessly sucking up to them. He was a dark horse for the 1992 primaries and had the help of poorly timed scandal in defeating Bill Clinton. He appeared as a Democrat that "everyone could like" and won a contest that saw Perot almost get second place against the incumbent President.

As President, Milk was reasonably popular on domestic issues, refusing to rock the boat in pretty much any way, but badly bungled some foreign policy crises relating to the collapse of the USSR enough to make him unpopular. The 1994 midterms weren't as bad as OTL, but he lost reelection.

He is compared to Jimmy Carter and remembered as weak and indecisive.

43. W. Mitt Romney (R-MA) 1997-2005

The global situation cooled down again for Romney, and the economy continued to prosper. There was a bank collapse that caused a scare, but Romney earned praise for refusing to bail them out. Romneycare was an effort to deal with soaring medical costs, Democrats maintain that it is totally inadequate and the fight to repeal and replace his system defined their party for much longer than Romney's presidency. It is still today the bedrock of the American healthcare system, although it has clearly been expanded on since.

Romney won reelection in 2000 against Bill Clinton.

44. Jerome Hoffman (D-PA) 2005-2009

Romney couldn't have asked for a worse successor unless it was some communist. Jerome Hoffman was born into a working family, was a troubled teen, then became a successful businessman and politician. He was also very well known for his very eccentric personality. While moderate on several key issues, he refused to ditch the ponytail or shave his beard off. He also had a "active" love life and wasn't afraid to play fast and loose. He enjoyed holding rallies, and during his tenure his approvals were subject to sharp partisan divides.

45. John E. "Jeb" Bush (R-FL) 2009-2013

A fiscal conservative coming to "Free America" from the terrors of Hoffman, he barely won against a President the GOP was sure was a third Carter and his efforts to rollback his policies - he wanted things even trimmer than under Romney - faced opposition. Hoffman remained beloved by Democrats and accepted the challenge to become the next Grover Cleveland. Jeb Bush was simply too right-wing and America chose Hoffman as the safer option.

46. Jerome Hoffman (D-PA) 2013-2016

Hoffman returned to power, holding massive parties while the GOP held big protests when he was reelected. Hoffman's second term wasn't really as interesting as his first, he finally became almost like another president. At least before a big doozy of a sex scandal dropped in late 2015 that also involved the corrupt Vice President. Hoffman selected the guy who seemed to want the job the most, asked Congress to confirm him as the new Vice President which they did, and resigned.

47. Eugene Pietsch (D-MD) 2016-2017

Serving for most of a year, Pietsch was a pencil pusher with exactly zero appetite for the people side of politics. Instead he was a professional administrator, nothing more or less. Because of his governing style, a large following exists that considers him the best President in modern American history. This is especially influenced by his successor:

48. John F. Kennedy III (D-MA) 2017-2025

Pietsch's exact opposite, a people pleaser especially popular with older Democrats. A womanizer but less so than Hoffman. The master of the well timed blatant lie and a blue blood. He does deserve credit for passing the bills put on his desk and his closer than expected reelection against a wingnut in 2020. But his second term wasn't pleasant.

49. David Amas (R-TN) 2025-2033

Amas is the first US President of Middle Eastern origin. He can be described as a typical Republican, though more on the libertarian side. Big on personal responsibility and relating to average Americans, he defeated Barack Obama during his reelection campaign in 2028. Apparently 47% of Americans only care about themselves. Funnily enough, Obama got around 47% of the vote.
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« Reply #1131 on: August 15, 2021, 08:55:49 AM »
« Edited: August 15, 2021, 09:33:37 AM by The Trump Virus »

36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) / Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN) - 1963-1969
37. George Wallace (A-AL) / Curtis LeMay (A-CA) - 1969 - 1973 ^
38. Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN) † / Edmund Muskie (D-ME) - 1973-1978
39. Edmund Muskie (D-ME) / Jimmy Carter (D-GA) - 1978 - 1981 ^
40. Richard M. Nixon (R-CA) * / Donald J. Trump (R-NY) - 1981-1985
41. Donald J. Trump (R-NY) * / VP vacant - 1985-1986
42. Tip O'Neill (D-MA) / Jimmy Carter (D-GA) 1986-1989 (As Trump had no VP, once he was removed from office the presidency fell to Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill)
43. Jimmy Carter (D-GA) / Bill Clinton (D-AR) 1989-1997
44. Bill Clinton (D-AR) / Bob Graham (D-FL) 1997-2001 ^
45. John McCain (R-AZ) / Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) 2001-2008
46. Joe Biden (D-DE) / Kathleen Sebelius (D-KS) 2009-2017
47. Barack Obama (D-IL) / Jon Ossoff (D-GA) 2017-2025



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« Reply #1132 on: August 15, 2021, 11:45:46 AM »

32. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (D-NY)/John Nance Garner (D-TX) 1933-1941^
33. Wendell Wilkie (R-TX)/Raymond Baldwin (R-CT) 1941-1944*
34. Raymond Baldwin (R-CT)/vacant 1944-1945, Earl Warren (R-CA) 1945-1953
35. Earl Warren (R-CA)/Ralph Bunche (R-MI) 1953-1961

36. Lyndon Johnson (D-TX)/Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) 1961-1969
37. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Edmund Muskie (D-ME) 1969-1973^

38. George Romney (R-MI)/Raymond Shafer (R-PA) 1973-1981
39. Raymond Shafer (R-PA)/Edward Brooke (R-MA) 1981-1989

40. Bob Casey (D-PA)/Ann Richards (D-TX) 1989-1997
41. Ann Richards (D-TX)/Al Gore (D-TN) 1997-2005

42. Colin Powell (R-NY)/Olympia Snowe (R-ME) 2005-2013
43. John McCain (R-AZ)/Olympia Snowe (R-ME) 2013-2017**

44. Al Gore (D-TN)/Kathy Dahlkemper (D-PA) 2017-incumbent

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« Reply #1133 on: August 15, 2021, 03:24:41 PM »
« Edited: August 17, 2021, 01:28:58 PM by Zedonathin2020 »

The Republicans deliver our first Black President 12 years early

42. Bill Clinton (D-AR) / Al Gore (D-TN) 1993-1997
Def. 1992: George H. W. Bush (R-TX) / Dan Quayle (R-IN)
43. Colin Powell (R-NY) / Lamar Alexander (R-TN) 1997-2005
Def. 1996: Bill Clinton (D-AR) / Al Gore (D-TN)
Def. 2000: Dick Gephardt (D-MO) / Bob Kerrey (D-NE)
44. John Kerry (D-MA) / John Edwards (D-NC) 2005-2009
Def. 2004: Mike DeWine (R-OH) / Tommy Thompson (R-WI)
45. John McCain (R-AZ) / Tim Pawlenty (R-MN) 2009-2013
Def. 2008: John Kerry (D-MA) / Bob Graham (D-FL)
46. Mary Landrieu (D-LA) / Barack Obama (D-IL) 2013-2021
Def. 2012: John McCain (R-AZ) / Tim Pawlenty (R-MN)
Def. 2016: Donald Trump (R-NY) / Chris Christie (R-NJ)
47. Barack Obama (D-IL) / Tammy Baldwin (D-WI) 2021-incumbent

Def. 2020: Ted Cruz (R-TX) / Nikki Haley (R-SC)
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« Reply #1134 on: August 16, 2021, 07:23:54 AM »

41. George Bush (1989-1997)
42. Hillary R. Clinton (1997-2005)
43. Richard Santorum (2005-2009)
44. John Kerry (2009-2013)
45. Nicki Haley (2013-2021)
46. Jerome Micheals (2021-2029)
47. Kevin J. Carlson (2029-)

This is a timeline where Hillary, a widow since just before the 1988 election, wins a tight primary in 1996. The Democrats had previously totally screwed up in the previous election, and tensions were high in the party. Nonetheless she finally lead them into power. She was very popular with her party during her term, won against Mitt Romney in 2000 (becoming the last Democratic candidate to carry Missouri as of 2029), and saw Clintoncare succeed before the GOP regained congress. After her retirement her reputation declined.

Rick Santorum came into office after her, as a paragon of the religious right. He only lasted a single term, although his reelection defeat was closer than expected.

Fast forward to 2020 and Barack Obama, who was on the shortlist to join President Kerry's cabinet had he won a second term in 2012, ran for President against Jerome Micheals. Micheals is a black man and the descendent of slaves who somehow looks slightly lighter skinned than Obama himself. Micheals won the primary as the outsider candidate, as Obama had been a senator for well over a decade at this point, and became President for two terms. Obama became Secretary of State under President Micheals during his first term.

Obama was then nominated by Democrats in 2028. He faced opposition from Jeff Merkely who preformed way better than expected and won several unexpected states, but still won in the end. He faced a businessman and commenter who had never held political office before in his life but had studied government and administration in college. Obama somehow lost against Carlson against all odds and in the face of punditry. Now Carlson is President and Obama is a private citizen.

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« Reply #1135 on: August 16, 2021, 12:40:04 PM »

41. George Bush (1989-1997)
42. Hillary R. Clinton (1997-2005)
43. Richard Santorum (2005-2009)
44. John Kerry (2009-2013)
45. Nicki Haley (2013-2021)
46. Jerome Micheals (2021-2029)
47. Kevin J. Carlson (2029-)

This is a timeline where Hillary, a widow since just before the 1988 election, wins a tight primary in 1996. The Democrats had previously totally screwed up in the previous election, and tensions were high in the party. Nonetheless she finally lead them into power. She was very popular with her party during her term, won against Mitt Romney in 2000 (becoming the last Democratic candidate to carry Missouri as of 2029), and saw Clintoncare succeed before the GOP regained congress. After her retirement her reputation declined.

Rick Santorum came into office after her, as a paragon of the religious right. He only lasted a single term, although his reelection defeat was closer than expected.

Fast forward to 2020 and Barack Obama, who was on the shortlist to join President Kerry's cabinet had he won a second term in 2012, ran for President against Jerome Micheals. Micheals is a black man and the descendent of slaves who somehow looks slightly lighter skinned than Obama himself. Micheals won the primary as the outsider candidate, as Obama had been a senator for well over a decade at this point, and became President for two terms. Obama became Secretary of State under President Micheals during his first term.

Obama was then nominated by Democrats in 2028. He faced opposition from Jeff Merkely who preformed way better than expected and won several unexpected states, but still won in the end. He faced a businessman and commenter who had never held political office before in his life but had studied government and administration in college. Obama somehow lost against Carlson against all odds and in the face of punditry. Now Carlson is President and Obama is a private citizen.


Who was the 1992 Democratic nominee in this timeline?
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« Reply #1136 on: August 16, 2021, 03:37:10 PM »


Biden as Warren Harding
Biden was known for running a presidential campaign, mostly from his basement, instead of massive rallies like his opponent, Donald Trump. Biden won, as a return to normalcy candidate, and was relatively popular at first. But many criticized the appointment of Dennis McDonough as Secretary of Veterans Affairs, claiming he only got the job because he was close to Biden. Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo helped with aid to some Chinese citizens, after the three gorges dam broke in mid 2022.

Under the presidency of Joe Biden, the world advanced technology-wise, with the use of VR becoming nearly as common as the smart phone. In early 2022, wide-spread worker strikes occurred, further causing supply chain damage.

Biden directed Secretary of Labor Marty Walsh to compromise with many labor unions, and eventually ending most strikes. Criticism over Biden’s immigration policies caused Biden to call on congress to pass stricter immigration laws, but Homeland Security Secretary Monaco urged that these measures would be humane. *Joe Biden replaced Alejandro Mayorkas with Lisa Monaco in late 2022*

Biden appointed many judges to appeals and circuit courts, exceeding his predecessors. He appointed Ketanji Brown Jackson to replace Stephen Breyer in 2022, and Leonard Kruger to replace Sonia Sotamyor in 2023. He also appointed Goodwin Liu to replace John Roberts, after his sudden death from epilepsy. (Breyer retired in June 2022, Sotamayor in June 2023. Roberts died in August 2024).

In the 2022 midterm elections, Joe Biden campaigned saying that he had fulfilled his promises, and the nation had returned to normalcy. However, labor unions and progressives were upset with the compromise that Secretary Walsh had put forth, and didn’t turn out for democrats in 2022, but turned out for more union-friendly republicans. Some legislation that Biden had passed, such as the Immigration Reform Act of 2022, were unpopular with progressives, and even many base democrats. The house ended up being 240 republicans, and 195 democrats. The senate ended up being 52 republicans and 48 democrats.


Biden was remembered for corruption in his cabinet, and failing to live up to many promises.

Many criticized Biden’s frequent trips to Delaware. Joe Biden was diagnosed with cancer, and died in August 2023. His death caused the approval ratings of the new Harris administration to go up drastically. Harris chose OMB director Nani Coloretti as her new VP. The Harris administration continued the economic policies of the Biden administration, but with a more progressive tint. Harris was more successful in passing legislation than Harding, and was generally more popular.
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« Reply #1137 on: August 16, 2021, 06:48:47 PM »

41. Lloyd Bentsen/Harry Reid (1989-1997)
42. Lauch Faircloth/Mike Castle (1997-2005)
43. Tom Daschle/John Kitzhaber (2005-2009)
44. Conrad Burns/Slade Gorton (2009-2017)
45. Ted Strickland/Ray Mabus (2017-2021)
46. Rick Scott/Matt Bevin (2021-)
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« Reply #1138 on: August 18, 2021, 10:30:28 PM »

Biden beats Bush in 1992. Clinton beats Trump in 2020:

41. George Bush / Dan Quayle (Republican): 1989-1993
42. Joe Biden / Sam Nunn (Democratic): 1993-2001
43. Sam Nunn / Evan Bayh (Democratic): 2001-2005

44. Jeb Bush / John Engler (Republican): 2005-2009
45. Barack Obama / Bill Clinton (Democratic): 2009-2017
46. Donald Trump / Chris Christie (Republican): 2017-2021
47. Bill Clinton / Elizabeth Warren (Democratic): 2021-Incumbent
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« Reply #1139 on: August 20, 2021, 11:37:01 AM »

Teddy wins in 12: Three-Party America
28. Teddy Roosevelt (P-NY)/Hiram Johnson (P-CA) 1912-1919
29. Hiram Johnson (P-CA)/Vacant 1919-1921
29. Hiram Johnson (P-CA)/Leonard Wood (P-NH) 1921-1925
30. Walter F. George (D-GA)/Albert Ritchie (D-MD) 1925-1933
31. Teddy Roosevelt Jr. (P-NY)/Upton Sinclair (P-CA) 1933-1949*
32. Arthur Vandenberg (R-MI)/Harold Stassen (R-MN) 1949-1951
33. Harold Stassen (R-MN)/Vacant 1951-1953
34. Dwight. D. Eisenhower (I-NY)/Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-MA)** 1953-1961
35. Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. (D-MA)/Henry "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA)*** 1961-1969
36. Hubert Humphrey (P-MN)/Fred Harris (P-OK) 1969-1977
37. Edward Brooke (R-MA)/Howard Baker (R-TN)**** 1977-1979
38. Howard Baker (R-TN)/Hiram Fong (R-HI) 1979-1989
39. Lee Iaccoca (D-MI)/Al Gore (D-TN) 1989-1997
40. Paul Wellstone (P-MN)/Howard Dean (P-VT) 1997-2005
41. Howard Dean (P-VT)/Russ Feingold (P-WI) 2005-2009
42. Hillary Rodham (R-NY)/John Kasich (R-OH) 2009-2017

*Given Teddy 1's policy in WW1, Hitler never comes to power in Germany, and WW2 breaks out due to the USSR's invasion of Poland in 1940.
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***Joe Kennedy Jr. never dies in WW2 due to changes ITTL
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« Reply #1140 on: August 21, 2021, 08:31:30 PM »

The Rise of the American Federation

Presidents of the United States (1789-
1. George Washington, 1789-1797 (Nonpartisan)
2. John Adams, 1797-1801 (Federalist)
3. Thomas Jefferson, 1801-1809 (Democratic-Republican)
4. James Madison, 1809-1813 (Democratic-Republican)
5. DeWitt Clinton, 1813-1821 (American)
6. John Quincy Adams, 1821-1825 (American)
7. Andrew Jackson, 1825-1829 (Democratic)
8. John Quincy Adams, 1829-1837 (American)
9. Martin Van Buren (Democratic), 1837-1841
10. Daniel Webster (American), 1841-1849
11. Theodore Frelinghuysen (American), 1849-1857
12. James Buchanan (Democratic), 1857-1861
13. William H. Seward (American), 1861-1869
14. Schulyer Colfax (American), 1869-1877
15. Samuel J. Tilden (Liberal), 1877-1885
16. Grover Cleveland (Liberal), 1885-1889
17. Benjamin Harrison (American), 1889-1897
18. William McKinley (American), 1897-1901*
19. Theodore Roosevelt (American Union), 1901-1913
20. Champ Calrk (American Union), 1913-1915

*-assassinated


Presidents of the Southern American Confederation (1829-1846)
1. Stephen Decatur Miller (Nonpartisan), 1829-1836
2. John C. Calhoun (Founding League), 1836-1841
3. John Bell (Reconciliation League), 1841-1846

Presidents of the Confederate States of America (1846-1915)
1. John Bell (Whig), 1846-1851
2. John B. Floyd (Whig), 1851-1856
3. Robert Rhett (Radical), 1856-1861
4. Jefferson Davis (New Founding League), 1861-1866
5. James M. Mason (New Founding League), 1866-1871
6. Wade Hampton (States' Rights), 1871-1876
7. Joseph E. Brown (States' Rights), 1876-1881
8. Isham G. Harris (Southern Liberal League), 1881-1886
9. Matthew Butler (Southern Liberal League), 1886-1891
10. Edmund Pettus (States' Rights), 1891-1896
11. Benjamin Tillman (States' Rights), 1896-1901
12. John W. Daniel (Southern Liberal League), 1901-1906
13. John Sharp Williams (Leauge for Liberalism and Unification), 1906-1911

Presidents of the Southern League (1911-1915)
1. John Sharp Williams (Southern National Liberal)



Prime Ministers of Canada
1. John A. Macdonald (Conservative), 1867-1873
2. Alexander Mackenzie (Liberal), 1873-1878
3. John A. Macdonald (Conservative), 1878-1891
4. Wilfred Laurier, 1891-1913 (Liberal)
5. Robert Borden (Unionist), 1913-1914
6. Wilfred Laurier, 1913-1915 (Liberal)



Minister Presidents of the American Federation

1. Champ Clark (Liberal), 1915-1917
2. Elihu Root (Federation), 1917-1925
3.Frank Lowden (Federation), 1925-1930
4. Al Smith (Liberal), 1930-1940
5. William Lyon Mackenzie King (National Liberal), 1940-1950**
6. Adlai Stevenson (Liberal), 1950-1954
7. Dwight D. Eisenhower (Federation), 1954-1961
8. George A. Drew (Federation), 1961-1966
9. Hubert Humphrey (Liberal-Labour), 1966-1976
10. Ronald Reagan (Federation), 1976-1984
11. Brian Mulroney (Federation), 1984-1992
12. Newt Gingrich, 1992-1993 (Federation)
13. Al Gore (Liberal), 1993-2003
14. Paul Martin (Liberal), 2003-2008
15. Mitt Romney (Federation), 2008-2015
16. Jeb Bush (Federation), 2015-present


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« Reply #1141 on: August 22, 2021, 10:49:17 AM »

Just a sort of "generic" Ford wins in 1976 type world

1977-1981 Gerald Ford(rep)
1981-1989 Reubin Askew(dem)
1989-1997 Mario Cuomo(dem)
1997-2005 Bob Graham(dem)
2005-2013 Donald Trump(rep)
2013-2021 Ben Carson(rep)
2021-present Evan Bayh(dem)
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« Reply #1142 on: August 22, 2021, 11:32:17 AM »
« Edited: August 22, 2021, 12:02:09 PM by Senator and Chair WB »

Presidents of the USA:

Bill Clinton (DEM-Arkansas): 1989-1997
Ross Perot (REF-Texas): 1997-1999

Prime Ministers of the USA:

Ross Perot (REF-Texarkana, TX): 1999-2001
George Bush (CON-Houston North): 2001-2008
Vacant: 2008 [2nd Bush Ministry lost confidence after the 2008 financial crash]
Hillary Clinton (LIB-North Westchester and West Point): 2008-2016 [2011 election was called by PM Clinton]
Donald Trump (TRUMP-National List): 2016-20XX [Incumbent]
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« Reply #1143 on: August 22, 2021, 10:01:20 PM »

The Likely Future:

Joe Biden (2021-2029)

Dan Crenshaw (2019-2037)

Gavin Newsom (2037-2041)

Ivanka Trump (2041-2049)
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« Reply #1144 on: August 22, 2021, 10:10:01 PM »

46. Joe Biden (D): January 20, 2021-March 19, 2027
47. Kamala Harris (D): March 19, 2027-January 20, 2033
48. Pete Buttigieg (D): January 20, 2033-January 20, 2041
49. [Katko like figure] (R): January 20, 2041-Present

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« Reply #1145 on: August 23, 2021, 09:41:39 PM »

46. Joe Biden (D): January 20, 2021-March 19, 2027
47. Kamala Harris (D): March 19, 2027-January 20, 2033
48. Pete Buttigieg (D): January 20, 2033-January 20, 2041
49. [Katko like figure] (R): January 20, 2041-Present


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« Reply #1146 on: August 23, 2021, 10:07:17 PM »

46. Joe Biden (D): January 20, 2021-March 19, 2027
47. Kamala Harris (D): March 19, 2027-January 20, 2033
48. Pete Buttigieg (D): January 20, 2033-January 20, 2041
49. [Katko like figure] (R): January 20, 2041-Present


Did Biden resign or die?

Yeah health issues. He died in 2033.
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« Reply #1147 on: August 24, 2021, 10:34:19 PM »

Afghanistan continues to be a mess, Dems lose majorities in 2022:

46. Joe Biden (D): January 20th, 2021 - January 20th, 2025
47. Donald Trump (R): January 20th, 2025 - October 20th, 2027 (Death, Natural Causes)
48. Ron DeSantis (R): October 20th, 2027 - January 20th, 2029
49. Jon Ossoff (D): January 20th, 2029 - January 20th, 2037
50. JD Vance (R): January 20th, 2037 ~ Onward
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« Reply #1148 on: August 24, 2021, 10:38:32 PM »

Presidents of the USA:

Bill Clinton (DEM-Arkansas): 1989-1997
Ross Perot (REF-Texas): 1997-1999

Prime Ministers of the USA:

Ross Perot (REF-Texarkana, TX): 1999-2001
George Bush (CON-Houston North): 2001-2008
Vacant: 2008 [2nd Bush Ministry lost confidence after the 2008 financial crash]
Hillary Clinton (LIB-North Westchester and West Point): 2008-2016 [2011 election was called by PM Clinton]
Donald Trump (TRUMP-National List): 2016-2021
Bernie Sanders (SDLP-Vermont): 2021-
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« Reply #1149 on: August 28, 2021, 05:17:22 PM »

Dewey Does It:

33. Harry Truman / Vacant (Democratic): 1945-1949
34. Thomas Dewey / Earl Warren (Republican): 1949-1957
Def. 1948: Harry Truman Alben Barkley (Democratic
Def. 1952: Adlai Stevenson / John Sparkman

35. Earl Warren / Everett Dirksen (Republican): 1957-1961

Def. 1956: Adlai Stevenson / John F. Kennedy (Democratic)
36. Estes Kefauver / Hubert Humphrey (Democratic): 1961-1963*
Def. 1960: Earl Warren / Everett Dirksen (Republican)
37. Hubert Humphrey / Vacant (Democratic): 1963-1965

37. Hubert Humphrey / Stuart Symington (Democratic): 1965-1973
Def. 1964: Barry Goldwater / William Scranton (Republican)
Def. 1968: Nelson Rockefeller / George Romney (Republican), George Wallace / Happy Chandler (American Independent)

38. Richard Nixon / Howard Baker (Republican): 1973-1981
Def. 1972: Edmund Muskie / Fred Harris (Democratic)
Def. 1976: Walter Mondale / Jimmy Carter (Democratic)

39. Henry "Scoop" Jackson / Dale Bumpers (Democratic): 1981-1983**
Def. 1980: Howard Baker / Ronald Reagan (Republican)
40. Dale Bumpers / Vacant (Democratic): 1983

40. Dale Bumpers / Gary Hart (Democratic): 1983-1989
Def. 1984: George Bush / Phil Crane (Republican)
41. Jack Kemp / William Armstrong (Republican): 1989-1993
Def. 1988: Gary Hart / Al Gore (Democratic)
42. Dick Gephardt / Bob Graham (Democratic): 1993-2001
Def. 1992: Jack Kemp / William Armstrong (Republican)
Def. 1996: Bob Dole / Jim Edgar (Republican)

43. John McCain / Tom Ridge (Republican): 2001-2009
Def. 2000: Bob Graham / Joe Lieberman (Democratic), Jesse Ventura / Ralph Nader (Independent)
Def. 2004: Howard Dean / John Edwards (Democratic)

44. Russ Feingold / Joe Biden (Democratic): 2009-2017
Def. 2008: Jeb Bush / Olympia Snowe (Republican)
Def. 2012: Mitt Romney / Tim Pawlenty (Republican)

45. Joe Biden / Elizabeth Warren (Democratic): 2017-2021

Def. 2016: Ted Cruz / John Kasich (Republican)
46. Marco Rubio / Jon Huntsman (Republican): 2021-2029
Def. 2020: Joe Biden / Elizabeth Warren (Democratic)
Def. 2024: Elizabeth Warren / Pete Buttigieg (Democratic)

47. Jon Huntsman / Tim Scott (Republican): 2029-2033

Def. 2028: Kamala Harris / Jon Ossof (Democratic)
48. Tim Ryan / Michael Bennet (Democratic): 2033-2037
Def. 2032: Jon Huntsman / Tim Scott (Republican), Marjorie Taylor Greene / Madison Cawthorn (American Nationalist)
49. Tim Scott / Dan Crenshaw (Republican): 2037-2041
Def. 2036: Tim Ryan / Michael Bennet (Democratic), Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez / Cori Bush (Progressive)
50. Stacy Abrams / Beto O'Rourke (Democratic): 2041-Incumbent
Def. 2040: Tim Scott / Dan Crenshaw (Republican)

*=Died of a Heart Attack February 8th, 1963
**= Died of an aortic aneurysm on January 3rd, 1983

Red Numbers = New Deal / Post War Era: 1933-1973
Blue Numbers= Conservative Era: 1973-1993
Maroon Numbers= Populist Era: 1993-2021
Navy Numbers= New Wave Conservative Era: 2021-2041
Purple Numbers= Era TBD: 2041-Present

House Majorities:
1949-1953: Democratic
1953-1955: Republican
1955-1971: Democratic
1971-1975: Republican
1975-1983: Democratic
1983-1985: Republican
1985-1987: Democratic
1987-1991: Republican
1991-1999: Democratic
1999-2003: Republican
2003-2011: Democratic
2011-2013: Republican
2013-2015: Democratic
2015-2023: Republican
2023-2025: Democratic
2025-2027: Republican
2027-2035: Democratic
2035-2039: Republican
2039-Present: Democratic

Senate Majority:
1949-1957: Democratic
1957-1959: Republican
1959-1967: Democratic
1967-1975: Republican
1975-1987: Democratic
1987-1991: Republican
1991- 1995: Democratic
1995-1997: Republican
1997-1999: Democratic
1999-2007: Republican
2007-2015: Democratic
2015-2017 Republican
2017-2019: Democratic
2019-2027: Republican^
2027-2035: Democratic
2035-2041: Republican^
2041-Present: Democratic


^:Tie broken by Republican VPs from 2023-2025 and from 2039-2041
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