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« on: April 08, 2017, 11:12:43 PM »

Trump has sure turned war hungry in the past few days.
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2017, 11:14:11 PM »

No the risk of such a move far outweighs the pros an Trump's inner circle (excluding Bannon) knows that
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2017, 11:16:30 PM »

Hell no
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2017, 11:50:06 PM »

Mattis will probably b***hslap him into reality if he tries that.
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2017, 12:03:34 AM »

I have no idea. Starting to think he really is a militaristic maniac.
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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2017, 12:47:18 AM »
« Edited: April 09, 2017, 12:56:06 AM by Ronnie »

I don't have any inkling as to what he might do next, and therein lies the problem.  He isn't guided by any philosophical underpinning, only impulse.  If, at some point, his approval rating sinks even lower than it is now, and he feels cornered in his own White House, I very much fear the things he might do to lash out.  What if he ignores the advice of Mattis and McMaster and retreats into his right wing media bubble?  I guess living in worry is the consequence we have to deal with; after all, we elected an unstable man who is beholden to no one but himself and his ceaseless desire to be loved.
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2017, 12:57:53 AM »

Mattis will probably b***hslap him into reality if he tries that.
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2017, 01:38:56 AM »

How many people would die from the artillery shells hitting Seoul?
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2017, 05:30:04 AM »

He will deploy the ninja's once they are finished in Syria.
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2017, 11:43:56 AM »

No, but plenty of SOF (Show of Force) deployments to the area. If Kim decides to really up the antenna with more nuclear tests or an ICBM launch, then the potential for US/SK preemptive action goes up. (Part of a Korea USN deployment last year)

Makes sense...amd by "go up", does it become certain or simply a reasonably foreseeable possibility?
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2017, 11:49:27 AM »

I have no idea. Starting to think he really is a militaristic maniac.

Nope, Trump is totes a non-interventionist.

Trump is the peace candidate, Hillary wants WW3.

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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2017, 01:23:03 PM »

Let's say this: i cant see the status quo in DPRK surviving the next four years for better or (grimly enough given the dystopian nature of the regime) for worse.
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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2017, 05:18:43 PM »

Will it happen this weekend?
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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2017, 05:21:36 PM »

A show of force against war crimes in Syria is one thing, but wouldn't Trump bombing the hell out of TWO countries (Neither of which have spilled a drop of American blood) be a bit much even for the Brian Williams/Fareed Zakaria crowd?
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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2017, 05:34:45 PM »

Let's say this: i cant see the status quo in DPRK surviving the next four years for better or (grimly enough given the dystopian nature of the regime) for worse.

Take makes fools of all. Then again, the situation could solve itself in a few days. I think the big question is whether Seoul and Tokyo are safe..
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« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2017, 05:40:36 PM »

Isolated strikes against North Korea do not solve anything. North Korea is like a landmine on China's doorstep - we need to detonate it in a way that is as damaging to China as possible. Then we need to "strongly guide" South Korea to establish an individualistic, constitutionally Christian, anti-Confucian unified American client state, establishing a beachhead of liberty on China's doorstep. Recognize Taiwan the very next day and provide moral leadership for other free countries to do the same. Then get Japan to repeal the pacifist clauses of their constitution and encourage them to embrace their proud military heritage and greatly expand their offensive capabilities.

The dragon must be slain. Within 10 years, we will reach a point of no return where we will inevitably be resigned to Chinese global hegemony within the next 50 years.
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« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2017, 05:45:59 PM »

I think it's more likely the US sabotages the DPRK in a less visible, but still effective way.
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« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2017, 05:48:02 PM »

There is no war going on in Korea right now. That's one big difference between it and Syria/Afghanistan. Striking there would be starting a whole new war where none existed. It would also be the first military strike on a nuclear power since WWII. It's sheer insanity, and the fact that it's even being considered shows just how fascist this country is becoming.
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« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2017, 05:53:54 PM »

I think it's more likely the US sabotages the DPRK in a less visible, but still effective way.

Yeah. Honestly, just swapping out Nutso Boy for a corrupt military junta would be an improvement
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« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2017, 05:58:45 PM »

Isolated strikes against North Korea do not solve anything. North Korea is like a landmine on China's doorstep - we need to detonate it in a way that is as damaging to China as possible. Then we need to "strongly guide" South Korea to establish an individualistic, constitutionally Christian, anti-Confucian unified American client state, establishing a beachhead of liberty on China's doorstep. Recognize Taiwan the very next day and provide moral leadership for other free countries to do the same. Then get Japan to repeal the pacifist clauses of their constitution and encourage them to embrace their proud military heritage and greatly expand their offensive capabilities.

The dragon must be slain. Within 10 years, we will reach a point of no return where we will inevitably be resigned to Chinese global hegemony within the next 50 years.

China kneecapped itself with the 1 child policy. Theyll only ever be a regional hegemon, unless we accidentally nuke ourselves.
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« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2017, 08:25:02 PM »

I would not be surprised if he did.
trump acts just as much of a loon, as Kim Jong-un.
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« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2017, 08:26:22 PM »

If he thinks it will help his approval numbers he will.
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« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2017, 08:29:04 PM »

... Then we need to "strongly guide" South Korea to establish an individualistic, constitutionally Christian, anti-Confucian unified American client state, establishing a beachhead of liberty on China's doorstep.

Constitutionally Christian ! ?
Why throw religion in here ? Very strange.
PS: Are you alt-right ? Related to Bannon ?
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« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2017, 08:41:20 PM »
« Edited: April 13, 2017, 08:49:16 PM by Ghost of Ruin »

Yes. He's has finally grasped that he can order military action, he obviously likes it, and so far it has far less negative pushback than anything else he's done. The North Korean government is very unlikely to obey his ultimatum, he'll lose face from backing down, so a strike is near inevitable. The only question left is what the consequences will be. (He is doubtless utterly ignorant of that part. "Who knew the North Korean dictatorship would use nukes on innocent civilians?")
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« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2017, 09:37:20 AM »
« Edited: April 14, 2017, 09:38:55 AM by Meclazine »

Isolated strikes against North Korea do not solve anything. North Korea is like a landmine on China's doorstep - we need to detonate it in a way that is as damaging to China as possible. Then we need to "strongly guide" South Korea to establish an individualistic, constitutionally Christian, anti-Confucian unified American client state, establishing a beachhead of liberty on China's doorstep. Recognize Taiwan the very next day and provide moral leadership for other free countries to do the same. Then get Japan to repeal the pacifist clauses of their constitution and encourage them to embrace their proud military heritage and greatly expand their offensive capabilities.

The dragon must be slain. Within 10 years, we will reach a point of no return where we will inevitably be resigned to Chinese global hegemony within the next 50 years.

China kneecapped itself with the 1 child policy. Theyll only ever be a regional hegemon, unless we accidentally nuke ourselves.

In 2075, China will be the largest economy in the world and a lot of Americans will be speaking Chinese.

Unless they accidentally nuke themselves.

It is like Santander has been sent from the future like a Terminator film to give us a blueprint on how to make sure the US national anthem does not become Gangnam Style.

In the mineral resource business, i know China are buying up a lot of specialised mineral deposits so they wont have to pay for them in the future. In some metaliferous deposit styles, China have bought up to 99% of the worlds economic reserves for that element of the periodic table.

They are not stupid, and even though their political system.is draconian, nonetheless it posesses long term strategic strength unavailable to 4 year term western democracies.

So yeah, we need to start getting that part of the world to play ball.
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