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« Reply #725 on: October 04, 2018, 01:25:49 PM »

This means she’ll probably lose reelection and she knows that. Doing the right thing over winning an election. Respect.
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« Reply #726 on: October 04, 2018, 01:27:06 PM »

If Heitkamp loses, it will be because ND has taken such a hard-right turn since she was last elected, not because she voted No on Kavanaugh.

If she goes down, at least she can have a clean conscience. 
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« Reply #727 on: October 04, 2018, 01:28:17 PM »

This means she’ll probably lose reelection and she knows that. Doing the right thing over winning an election. Respect.

This. But how did she win in 2012? It has nothing to do with Obama, because he didn't come close to win the state.

I wouldn't write Heidi off at this point, but is more likely she loses than not.
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« Reply #728 on: October 04, 2018, 01:29:35 PM »

This means she’ll probably lose reelection and she knows that. Doing the right thing over winning an election. Respect.

This. But how did she win in 2012? It has nothing to do with Obama, because he didn't come close to win the state.

I wouldn't write Heidi off at this point, but is more likely she loses than not.
Rick Berg ran an atrocious campaign and Heidi Heitkamp ran an incredibly strong campaign.

Cramer is no Berg, and ND has gotten more conservative since 2012.
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« Reply #729 on: October 04, 2018, 01:30:30 PM »

Looks like she was either threatened with triage or made a deal for a large increase in air support:

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« Reply #730 on: October 04, 2018, 01:31:43 PM »

Democrats should pump money into this race, even if Heitkamp loses. ND is so small that a little bit of money gets a lot done.
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« Reply #731 on: October 04, 2018, 01:31:58 PM »

This means she’ll probably lose reelection and she knows that. Doing the right thing over winning an election. Respect.

This. But how did she win in 2012? It has nothing to do with Obama, because he didn't come close to win the state.

I wouldn't write Heidi off at this point, but is more likely she loses than not.

Romney 20
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« Reply #732 on: October 04, 2018, 01:33:48 PM »
« Edited: October 04, 2018, 01:39:40 PM by Paulite Hick »


Yeah, the bitch must be punished for daring to reject a drunkard sex creep for a lifetime appointment on the highest court.
Amirite bro?

Heidi is a good woman, I wouldn't call her that. The good people of North Dakota will decide whether or not she is punished for her complicity in smearing Judge Kavanaugh.
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« Reply #733 on: October 04, 2018, 01:34:49 PM »


Excellent!
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« Reply #734 on: October 04, 2018, 01:36:46 PM »

The only reason Kavanaugh is popular in North Dakota is because Conservative groups have been smashing the airwaves there with pro-Kavanaugh ads. If Democrats spend a million dollars or so on anti-Kavanaugh ads in the state, that will make him unpopular.
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« Reply #735 on: October 04, 2018, 01:38:53 PM »


Yeah, the bitch must be punished for daring to reject a drunkard sex creep for a lifetime appointment on the highest court.
Amirite bro?

Heidi is a good woman, I wouldn't call her that. The good people of North Dakota will decide whether or not she is punished her for her complicity in smearing Judge Kavanaugh.
Hes a rapist and a pig, he's not being smeared by anyone! Wake up!
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« Reply #736 on: October 04, 2018, 01:41:49 PM »

I think that by running about a million dollars worth of anti-Kavanaugh ads in North Dakota, it could be enough to move the polls back to a Heitkamp lead, even if one was to believe that the Cramer + 12 poll was legit.
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« Reply #737 on: October 04, 2018, 01:45:34 PM »

I think that by running about a million dollars worth of anti-Kavanaugh ads in North Dakota, it could be enough to move the polls back to a Heitkamp lead, even if one was to believe that the Cramer + 12 poll was legit.

It makes no difference. Atlas pretends it matters to explain away what it dont know. The goalposts of why someone wins or loses is constantly moving on this site
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« Reply #738 on: October 04, 2018, 01:49:16 PM »

I think that by running about a million dollars worth of anti-Kavanaugh ads in North Dakota, it could be enough to move the polls back to a Heitkamp lead, even if one was to believe that the Cramer + 12 poll was legit.

It makes no difference. Atlas pretends it matters to explain away what it dont know. The goalposts of why someone wins or loses is constantly moving on this site

If it makes no difference, then why did Conservative groups decide to spend millions of dollars on pro-Kavanaugh ads, with a heavy focus on North Dakota.
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« Reply #739 on: October 04, 2018, 01:54:02 PM »

I think that by running about a million dollars worth of anti-Kavanaugh ads in North Dakota, it could be enough to move the polls back to a Heitkamp lead, even if one was to believe that the Cramer + 12 poll was legit.

It makes no difference. Atlas pretends it matters to explain away what it dont know. The goalposts of why someone wins or loses is constantly moving on this site

If it makes no difference, then why did Conservative groups decide to spend millions of dollars on pro-Kavanaugh ads, with a heavy focus on North Dakota.

Because they're morons and political ads are money pits that just funnel money to consultants. The average voter could care less about the SCOTUS. If Heidi loses then she was always going to lose and not because of a SCOTUS vote that only highly partisan and already motivated voters care about
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« Reply #740 on: October 04, 2018, 02:39:51 PM »

Heitkamp is finished and she knows it



The other Poll who had Cramer up 10 want Kavernaugh confirmed something like 60-27.

From the SRA Poll that had Cramer up 10

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« Reply #741 on: October 04, 2018, 02:42:01 PM »

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« Reply #742 on: October 04, 2018, 02:42:39 PM »

The plan appears to be that she will vote against Kavanaugh, and run a bunch of anti-Kavanaugh ads statewide to make that the popular position.
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« Reply #743 on: October 04, 2018, 02:44:56 PM »

Better to go down doing what you think is right than flailing about like the blue dogs did in 2010/2014.
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« Reply #744 on: October 04, 2018, 02:45:25 PM »
« Edited: October 04, 2018, 02:49:10 PM by Zaybay »



Either the race is completely over, or the NRs are making another really stupid decision by forfeiting the entirety of the airwaves.
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« Reply #745 on: October 04, 2018, 02:46:45 PM »



Either the race is completely over, or the NRCC is making another really stupid decision by forfeiting the entirety of the airwaves.

It is the latter for sure. This gives Democrats an even better position to define the race in the last stretch.
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« Reply #746 on: October 04, 2018, 02:48:10 PM »

Heitkamp is finished and she knows it



The other Poll who had Cramer up 10 want Kavernaugh confirmed something like 60-27.

From the SRA Poll that had Cramer up 10



So 34% of highly partisan and already motivated Cramer voters claimed it would of made them less likely to vote for someone they werent going to vote for anyway.

Noted



Either the race is completely over, or the NRCC is making another really stupid decision by forfeiting the entirety of the airwaves.

No...its just idiot strategists think a SCOTUS vote matters in a country where only 1% can name all 9 Justices
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« Reply #747 on: October 04, 2018, 02:53:09 PM »

Insanely bad idea and knee-jerky to pull out of the state - gives Heitkamp the opportunity to rebrand right when she needs to the most and close strong.
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« Reply #748 on: October 04, 2018, 02:54:55 PM »

Heitkamp is finished and she knows it



The other Poll who had Cramer up 10 want Kavernaugh confirmed something like 60-27.

From the SRA Poll that had Cramer up 10



So 34% of highly partisan and already motivated Cramer voters claimed it would of made them less likely to vote for someone they werent going to vote for anyway.

Noted



Either the race is completely over, or the NRCC is making another really stupid decision by forfeiting the entirety of the airwaves.

No...its just idiot strategists think a SCOTUS vote matters in a country where only 1% can name all 9 Justices
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« Reply #749 on: October 04, 2018, 02:55:11 PM »

Even if the race is over, I can’t say I agree with this decision.
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