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« on: March 16, 2017, 01:03:26 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2017, 07:57:49 AM »

Horrible idea, the summer I spent delivering for them opened my eyes to how underfunded they already are.
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2017, 08:03:25 AM »

You are all forgetting that a huge wall needs to be build. Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2017, 08:16:24 AM »

Sounds good to me. Trump supporters need to pull themselves up by eat their bootstraps

Fixed that for you.
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2017, 09:17:15 AM »

Maybe carve that out. Community development block grants often go to well off communities to build concert halls.
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Meals on wheels grants seem to be a minor part of the program. Maybe just increase grants for meals on wheels in the already existing usda programs at the same rate that similar grants would be eliminated by zeroing out cdbgs.
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2017, 09:25:48 AM »

Don't forget how they are selling the cuts....
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2017, 09:33:11 AM »

Don't forget how they are selling the cuts....
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That is true.

Remember, in America we do not have mandated charity.
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2017, 11:00:29 AM »

Don't forget how they are selling the cuts....
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This is one area where I will get critical of the budget. Doesn't this deficit hawk buffoon realize that soft power costs less than hard power?
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2017, 11:04:49 AM »

Don't forget how they are selling the cuts....
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That is true.

Remember, in America we do not have mandated charity.

Right, that's why we didn't bailout Wall Street in 2008 Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2017, 11:19:48 AM »

Luckily there is no way this gets even 45 votes in the Senate, even a watered down version would struggle to get 50 let alone the 60 to break a filibuster.

Also cutting CSBG and WAP would result in me losing my job, so that would suck.
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2017, 11:20:08 AM »
« Edited: March 16, 2017, 11:22:42 AM by modern maverick »

About half of "public" television in this country is funded by pledge drives and the third sector already. I'm sure defense contractors like Boeing and Lockheed Martin can spare the chump change to keep intact the part of this critical service's budget that actually is public without the coal miners feeling the pinch.

But, you know, what do I know about it being a "critical service"? It's not like I grew up five miles from nowhere down a dirt road with cows for neighbors and watching Arthur on my thirteen-inch television was the high point of my day or anything. I suppose my working single mother's bootstraps just weren't long enough to afford to park me in front of Power Rangers instead.
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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2017, 11:49:43 AM »

Don't forget how they are selling the cuts....
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https://twitter.com/politico/status/842347194371981312


That is true.

Remember, in America we do not have mandated charity.

Then return every single penny of my taxes that is being used to fund the useless war in the Middle East. No double standards here.
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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2017, 11:50:35 AM »

Don't forget how they are selling the cuts....
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https://twitter.com/politico/status/842347194371981312


That is true.

Remember, in America we do not have mandated charity.
We have mandated taxation. It's not voluntary.
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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2017, 11:54:54 AM »

Don't forget how they are selling the cuts....
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This is one area where I will get critical of the budget. Doesn't this deficit hawk buffoon realize that soft power costs less than hard power?

Holy crap, I agree with Santander on a non-trivial issue. Surprise
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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2017, 12:09:54 PM »

Don't forget how they are selling the cuts....
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https://twitter.com/politico/status/842347194371981312


That is true.

Remember, in America we do not have mandated charity.

We can't ask atheists to help pay for other students to get vouchers to go to religious schools, yet this is no doubt done in many states and probably soon to be under DeVos.

Or how about asking pacifist liberal taxpayers to help pay for the Iraq war, or even better, tanks that Congress keeps buying despite the military themselves not wanting? Or how about a trillion+ dollar fighter jet program that is nothing but problems?

I don't think anyone should be bringing up the "we can't ask [taxpayer]..." or "my tax dollars..." argument unless they want to really hash this whole thing out, and not just what they don't like.
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« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2017, 12:18:48 PM »

We can't ask atheists to help pay for other students to get vouchers to go to religious schools, yet this is no doubt done in many states and probably soon to be under DeVos.

Or how about asking pacifist liberal taxpayers to help pay for the Iraq war, or even better, tanks that Congress keeps buying despite the military themselves not wanting? Or how about a trillion+ dollar fighter jet program that is nothing but problems?

I don't think anyone should be bringing up the "we can't ask [taxpayer]..." or "my tax dollars..." argument unless they want to really hash this whole thing out, and not just what they don't like.
Nobody is saying that certain groups should be excluded from having their tax dollars going to certain places.
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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2017, 12:22:51 PM »

Don't forget how they are selling the cuts....
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https://twitter.com/politico/status/842347194371981312


That is true.

Remember, in America we do not have mandated charity.

We can't ask atheists to help pay for other students to get vouchers to go to religious schools, yet this is no doubt done in many states and probably soon to be under DeVos.

Or how about asking pacifist liberal taxpayers to help pay for the Iraq war, or even better, tanks that Congress keeps buying despite the military themselves not wanting? Or how about a trillion+ dollar fighter jet program that is nothing but problems?

I don't think anyone should be bringing up the "we can't ask [taxpayer]..." or "my tax dollars..." argument unless they want to really hash this whole thing out, and not just what they don't like.

I agree
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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2017, 01:32:16 PM »

Eh, Meals on Wheels is a good program. There should be cuts across the board, even in the military. We need a strong military. Weakness is what you see on the Campuses. Cut the wasteful F-35, and cut some of the waste in the EPA.

Cut across the board. You need balance. We don't need taxpayer-funded programs that bash success and other nonsense. Cut across the board.
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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2017, 02:59:00 PM »

Eh, Meals on Wheels is a good program. There should be cuts across the board, even in the military. We need a strong military. Weakness is what you see on the Campuses. Cut the wasteful F-35, and cut some of the waste in the EPA.

Cut across the board. You need balance. We don't need taxpayer-funded programs that bash success and other nonsense. Cut across the board.
Agree.  Cut everywhere.
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2017, 04:10:52 PM »
« Edited: March 16, 2017, 04:13:41 PM by Eharding »

Don't forget how they are selling the cuts....
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This is one area where I will get critical of the budget. Doesn't this deficit hawk buffoon realize that soft power costs less than hard power?

-That's why soft power is cut and hard power isn't -precisely because hard power costs more.

Also, bronz is right.
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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2017, 08:18:03 PM »

Maybe carve that out. Community development block grants often go to well off communities to build concert halls.
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Meals on wheels grants seem to be a minor part of the program. Maybe just increase grants for meals on wheels in the already existing usda programs at the same rate that similar grants would be eliminated by zeroing out cdbgs.
They don't care that this is sh**t program full of waste, corruption and graft often aimed at well off communities.  "meals on wheels" is how they sold this piece of sh**t in the first place, of course it's what they are going to cry when it gets axed.


Don't get me wrong, Trump's budget sucks ass.  This ain't why.
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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2017, 08:29:10 PM »

Why don't people pull themselves up by the bootstraps instead of sitting around waiting for delivery?
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« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2017, 08:32:53 PM »

CDBGs actually go to housing and community programs where I live, because the council makes sure that they are used for only that.

Meals on Wheels is for seniors who are stuck in their homes, it's a good program and should continue. The cost of it is so not the reason why there is a deficit.
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« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2017, 08:39:16 PM »

Maybe carve that out. Community development block grants often go to well off communities to build concert halls.
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Meals on wheels grants seem to be a minor part of the program. Maybe just increase grants for meals on wheels in the already existing usda programs at the same rate that similar grants would be eliminated by zeroing out cdbgs.
They don't care that this is sh**t program full of waste, corruption and graft often aimed at well off communities.  "meals on wheels" is how they sold this piece of sh**t in the first place, of course it's what they are going to cry when it gets axed.


Don't get me wrong, Trump's budget sucks ass.  This ain't why.

Are you suggesting that Meals on Wheels is full of waste and corruption, or CDBGs in general?  Meals on Wheels is meant to help olds who literally cannot "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" and cook their own food.  Do wealthy olds benefit from it as much as poor ones do?  Probably not, but it shouldn't be cut.
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« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2017, 08:58:10 PM »

I've never really been a fan of cutting funding for something simply because of waste, with the implication being the funding is otherwise OK so long as there is little waste or fraud. If one is in a position to flat out cut the funding altogether, why not first make an honest attempt to ensure the money is used properly? I'm not saying this why Trump's budget proposes cuts to these things, but I don't buy the idea that, for example, we can't ensure development grants aren't used to fund concert halls in well-off communities.
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