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« on: March 11, 2017, 05:10:44 AM »
« edited: July 01, 2019, 09:49:22 PM by dfwlibertylover »



This will be the HQ of the newly formed Federalist Party "Non-Interventionists Caucus". Our goal is to ensure that federalist candidates (and general candidates) do not run on or carry out interventionist (particularly nation building and regime change wars) policies, we will act based on how we feel it necessary to prevent those who would engage us in such wars from reaching political office.

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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2017, 05:12:21 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2017, 05:13:11 AM »

Finally!


I thought I would never get a purely Libertarian caucus. Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2017, 05:18:22 AM »

Kind of ironic to have a background picture of the crumbling remains of Aleppo, with all the connotations of what "non-intervention's" consequences are.
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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2017, 05:20:39 AM »

Kind of ironic to have a background picture of the crumbling remains of Aleppo, with all the connotations of what "non-intervention's" consequences are.
Actually, us sending troops in would've escalated the fighting throughout Syria by a very large proportion I'd imagine. I'm surprised you know which cities you are bombing though, good job!
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2017, 05:24:34 AM »

But anyways if you want to have an actual recorded IRC debate on foreign policy I would love to do so, I'd rather not have debate gunk up this thread though, thanks!
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2017, 05:27:12 AM »

Kind of ironic to have a background picture of the crumbling remains of Aleppo, with all the connotations of what "non-intervention's" consequences are.
Actually, us sending troops in would've escalated the fighting throughout Syria by a very large proportion I'd imagine. I'm surprised you know which cities you are bombing though, good job!

I mean, arguing for sending troops in, and trying to broker a diplomatic solution to the two sides are very different...
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2017, 05:29:04 AM »

As I posted in the other caucuses, assuming that this is restricted to only Federalists, the elected leader will sit on the platform committee, assuming the pending bylaw amendment passes in the convention.
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2017, 05:29:45 AM »

Kind of ironic to have a background picture of the crumbling remains of Aleppo, with all the connotations of what "non-intervention's" consequences are.
Actually, us sending troops in would've escalated the fighting throughout Syria by a very large proportion I'd imagine. I'm surprised you know which cities you are bombing though, good job!

I mean, arguing for sending troops in, and trying to broker a diplomatic solution to the two sides are very different...
Like I said, up for debate in IRC. But like, I have no problem with diplomatic solutions and that is what we should strive for. This caucus intends to stop those who wish to bring about change through war, not through peace.
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2017, 05:36:21 AM »

Kind of ironic to have a background picture of the crumbling remains of Aleppo, with all the connotations of what "non-intervention's" consequences are.
Actually, us sending troops in would've escalated the fighting throughout Syria by a very large proportion I'd imagine. I'm surprised you know which cities you are bombing though, good job!

I mean, arguing for sending troops in, and trying to broker a diplomatic solution to the two sides are very different...
Like I said, up for debate in IRC. But like, I have no problem with diplomatic solutions and that is what we should strive for. This caucus intends to stop those who wish to bring about change through war, not through peace.

I think that's a bit broad... I think almost everyone desires peace. The issue stems over whether we should stay an active participant in global affairs, as the world's last remaining superpower... I am entirely open to a debate, but when you assert the idea that you would "prevent those that engage in" this opposing view from reaching public office, it worries me. As a citizen in a fair and free republican democracy, arguing for issues is what must be the goal, not discouraging others for their beliefs.
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2017, 05:37:49 AM »

Kind of ironic to have a background picture of the crumbling remains of Aleppo, with all the connotations of what "non-intervention's" consequences are.
Actually, us sending troops in would've escalated the fighting throughout Syria by a very large proportion I'd imagine. I'm surprised you know which cities you are bombing though, good job!

I mean, arguing for sending troops in, and trying to broker a diplomatic solution to the two sides are very different...
Like I said, up for debate in IRC. But like, I have no problem with diplomatic solutions and that is what we should strive for. This caucus intends to stop those who wish to bring about change through war, not through peace.

I think that's a bit broad... I think almost everyone desires peace. The issue stems over whether we should stay an active participant in global affairs, as the world's last remaining superpower... I am entirely open to a debate, but when you assert the idea that you would "prevent those that engage in" this opposing view from reaching public office, it worries me. As a citizen in a fair and free republican democracy, arguing for issues is what must be the goal, not discouraging others for their beliefs.
If you want to carry out your beliefs by the use of military force, you do not deserve to be anywhere near office.
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2017, 05:42:14 AM »

Kind of ironic to have a background picture of the crumbling remains of Aleppo, with all the connotations of what "non-intervention's" consequences are.
Actually, us sending troops in would've escalated the fighting throughout Syria by a very large proportion I'd imagine. I'm surprised you know which cities you are bombing though, good job!

I mean, arguing for sending troops in, and trying to broker a diplomatic solution to the two sides are very different...
Like I said, up for debate in IRC. But like, I have no problem with diplomatic solutions and that is what we should strive for. This caucus intends to stop those who wish to bring about change through war, not through peace.

I think that's a bit broad... I think almost everyone desires peace. The issue stems over whether we should stay an active participant in global affairs, as the world's last remaining superpower... I am entirely open to a debate, but when you assert the idea that you would "prevent those that engage in" this opposing view from reaching public office, it worries me. As a citizen in a fair and free republican democracy, arguing for issues is what must be the goal, not discouraging others for their beliefs.
If you want to carry out your beliefs by the use of military force, you do not deserve to be anywhere near office.

Again, this doesn't mean anything as it is too broad? Should we not end genocide (my belief is we should), like that of Rwanda or Kosovo, without military protection of assets like food and protection of citizens? I mean, this is my belief, which goes under your circumstances? Should I be barred from political office?
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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2017, 05:44:45 AM »

NeverAgain, stop using strawman arguments and READ the goal of the caucus. The Caucus will vote on who to endorse based on their foreign policy arguments, I am obviously not so naive to believe that we must never go to war. If we are attacked or if an extreme circumstance is ongoing (aka genocide, in some cases) then yes we should intervene. You are trying to derail this with your pointless arguments, enough.
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« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2017, 05:47:18 AM »

Now, I am going to kindly ask that anyone in opposition to this please either A. PM me somewhere or B. make another thread, it is not fair to the members of this caucus to junk it up with your arguments. Thank you.
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« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2017, 11:37:24 AM »

Although I'm in Labor, I fully support the goals of this caucus.
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« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2017, 11:55:52 AM »

Although I'm in Labor, I fully support the goals of this caucus.
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« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2017, 01:23:50 PM »
« Edited: March 11, 2017, 01:32:14 PM by Eharding »

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« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2017, 02:13:11 PM »

The Coolidge Society endorses and supports this caucus and would have noninterventionism as part of its policy planks.

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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2017, 02:58:55 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2017, 11:25:00 PM »

Elections have consequences, Nev.
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« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2017, 01:35:38 AM »

ok we officially have 3 members, keep signing in!
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« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2017, 01:37:10 AM »

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« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2017, 01:41:32 AM »

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« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2017, 01:43:13 AM »

I will set the timeline like so:

- keep letting people sign up (through Friday 5/5 11:59 PM Central) (people can still sign up after that)
- Start chair nominations (Saturday and Sunday)
- Vote on Chair (Monday through Friday, 120 hour vote)
- decide what we want to do with this (after Friday with chairperson elections)
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« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2017, 07:31:43 PM »

Hello,
I am running in the Southern Senate primaries this weekend. I am asking for this caucus' support in my very first campaign. My campaign is focused on caring for the people, transparency in our government, and I'm running as a staunch non-interverntionist who is against all wars of choice. I need the support of you all to win this primary. My platform is in my campaign office thread in the link below. Thank you for considering me, and I hope for the best.
Thanks,
LouisvilleThunder
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=268846.0
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