Pence now claims slaves were immigrants in address today, defending carson

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

The Joke is on you guys.

The quote is NOT from mike pence, it is from BARACK OBAMA in 2015

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=111241

Congratulations on an excellent rickroll, marred only by the need to fake the title.

My own fault for taking you at your word. (A mistake I'll try not to make again.)

[pbrower2a]

Here is how President Obama put it:

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Forced labor. The Union Army liberated slaves in the Confederacy -- and the US Army liberated slaves of the Third Reich.

 

[Meclazine for Israel]

Marty, Marty, Marty.

That is some expert trolling to be admired on many levels.

Love your work.

[Middle-aged Europe]

Cool story, bro.

[angus]

This is getting silly.  This and the other thread.  Both focus on the fact that they described slaves as immigrants while completely ignoring the other, more salient, misstatement.

According to Mirriam-Webster (on-line version), an immigrant is
a:  a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence
b:  a plant or animal that becomes established in an area where it was previously unknown

Those who made the middle passage were immigrants, by definition.  

If, however, you want to pick on Pence (and especially Carson) for general idiocy, then you should focus on the statement that emphasizes they "wanted to build new lives for their families."  I have no doubt that this is not what people chained to the decks of Portuguese, Spanish, and Dutch seagoing vessels, being forced to endure rape and beatings, not being able to understand the languages of their captors, having to sleep in their shit and urine en route, and being tossed about by unfamiliar winds and waters, would be thinking about.  They'd be thinking about escape, most likely.

Spend your energies wisely.  To call them immigrants is not inaccurate; to conclude that African slaves, like most other groups of immigrants, came to the Americas for economic opportunity, suggests willful ignorance.

[I Won - Get Over It]

This thread should be pinned

[DavidB.]

TOP KEK

[Hollywood]

Its the same old theme from the media (CNN).  Create a race-baiting controversy to spread division among black and white Americans.  Its all politics.  

For example, a black reporter asked Trump at a Press Conference why he hasn't met with the black caucus.  The question has been constantly repeated on news web pages and television programming:  "Why hasn't Donald Trump met with the Black Caucus?"  Probably because members of the black caucus have zero interest meeting with Trump, and would be treated as left-wing traitors for giving him a photo-op.  Its the same political cycle played out on television.  Over and over and over and over.  Its come to the point where I could write the exact, word-for-word talking points expressed on the left.

Even though its an uncomfortable concept, African American slaves taken from their homeland and forced to move to a permanent residence within the slave state (USA) can fit within the definition of immigrant.  Does it trivialize the African American experience?  Sure, Maybe, and No.  I think its a nice way to bring African Americans into unison with their white neighbors by including them within concept of "American Immigrant".  We are all immigrants.  There is no reason to leave black people out of the definition of "American Immigrants", unless there is some racist or divisive intent behind their exclusion into this American bedrock.  

[Trapsy]

Democrats/black people have an affection that bars of any type of legitimate criticism. Obama talked down to black people to coddle feelings of white folks. It's funny because he still got burned anyways even though he went out his way to stay neutral on race.

[Trapsy]

Its the same old theme from the media (CNN).  Create a race-baiting controversy to spread division among black and white Americans.  Its all politics.  

For example, a black reporter asked Trump at a Press Conference why he hasn't met with the black caucus.  The question has been constantly repeated on news web pages and television programming:  "Why hasn't Donald Trump met with the Black Caucus?"  Probably because members of the black caucus have zero interest meeting with Trump, and would be treated as left-wing traitors for giving him a photo-op.  Its the same political cycle played out on television.  Over and over and over and over.  Its come to the point where I could write the exact, word-for-word talking points expressed on the left.

Even though its an uncomfortable concept, African American slaves taken from their homeland and forced to move to a permanent residence within the slave state (USA) can fit within the definition of immigrant.  Does it trivialize the African American experience?  Sure, Maybe, and No.  I think its a nice way to bring African Americans into unison with their white neighbors by including them within concept of "American Immigrant".  We are all immigrants.  There is no reason to leave black people out of the definition of "American Immigrants", unless there is some racist or divisive intent behind their exclusion into this American bedrock.  

Ben Carson was trying to spin slavery into some positive thing. and that is problematic for me. It's trying to revise history to minimize the ugliness of our country's past.

[Xing]

Hmmm, which party was it that embraced a petty little manchild with authoritarian tendencies and no regard for the constitution as their new leader again? But sure, Reps, go ahead and enjoy your gotcha moment, and believe that Democrats are the unreasonably partisan ones...

[Trapsy]

Hmmm, which party was it that embraced a petty little manchild with authoritarian tendencies and no regard for the constitution as their new leader again? But sure, Reps, go ahead and enjoy your gotcha moment, and believe that Democrats are the unreasonably partisan ones...

It's not even a gotcha moment, the words are still problematic no matter who said it.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

I can't tell which is worse - the ones who authentically believe this language to be inappropriate or those who feign it. Probably the former since the fakers are at least in touch with reality.

[(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31]

Hmmm, which party was it that embraced a petty little manchild with authoritarian tendencies and no regard for the constitution as their new leader again?

-Donald Trump said explicitly believed the Constitution should be interpreted as the founders intended. Clinton was unable to see the Supreme Court as having anything to do with the Constitution, rather seeing it as a way to force Democratic priorities on the nation. Which sounds more authoritarian?

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Hmmm, which party was it that embraced a petty little manchild with authoritarian tendencies and no regard for the constitution as their new leader again?

-Donald Trump said explicitly believed the Constitution should be interpreted as the founders intended. Clinton was unable to see the Supreme Court as having anything to do with the Constitution, rather seeing it as a way to force Democratic priorities on the nation. Which sounds more authoritarian?

Trump who says things that are completely contradictory so that he can appeal to both the freedom freaks promoting Fox's anti-Obama platitudes from the past decade and the throwback authoritarians who are the real modern Republican Party base.

[(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31]

Hmmm, which party was it that embraced a petty little manchild with authoritarian tendencies and no regard for the constitution as their new leader again?

-Donald Trump said explicitly believed the Constitution should be interpreted as the founders intended. Clinton was unable to see the Supreme Court as having anything to do with the Constitution, rather seeing it as a way to force Democratic priorities on the nation. Which sounds more authoritarian?

Trump who says things that are completely contradictory so that he can appeal to both the freedom freaks promoting Fox's anti-Obama platitudes from the past decade and the throwback authoritarians who are the real modern Republican Party base.

Garland is far more authoritarian than Gorsuch. Fact.