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« on: February 21, 2017, 10:26:03 am »

I think it could happen... in like 2080 or around that point.  By then, gay marriage would have been legal in every state for at least 65 years.  I imagine there'd be a lot less stigma, more acceptance, more openly LGBTQ politicians in the state legislatures, maybe a few governors... but if a lesbian, gay man, bisexual, or transgender person were to become POTUS, what would be their ideology and party?  (I'd say of course liberal Democrat, but who really knows?  It could be a "conservative", whatever "conservative" means in 2080.)
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2017, 10:31:12 am »

Probably a liberal lesbian being elected in the 2030's or the 2040's, somebody like Tammy Baldwin or Kathleen Wynne from Canada.
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2017, 11:48:07 am »

After Obama, I doubt it will be an "only Nixon" style cross over candidate.
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2017, 09:25:49 pm »

I think the first LGBTQ president could be Kate Brown shes bisexual and has a chance of running in 2020 or 2024
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2017, 10:09:41 pm »

I'm going to go out on a limb and say moderate Republican during the Northern Strategy phase.
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2017, 09:22:47 pm »

Buttigieg is a Democrat, and he seems to lean liberal (though moderate on some issues).
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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2017, 03:55:43 pm »

Moderate-to-liberal.  Elected in the 2040s.
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2017, 02:52:51 pm »

I'm going to go out on a limb and say moderate Republican during the Northern Strategy phase.

This is by far the most likely scenario.
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2017, 07:53:24 pm »

We're not going to have a LGBT president.
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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2017, 01:12:10 am »



People in the 1980s probably thought America would never have a black president.

With regards to the question at hand, I'd say it would be no doubt be a liberal Dem.

The problem is, who will it be? Also can this person win in this country's environment?
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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2017, 10:04:30 am »



People in the 1980s probably thought America would never have a black president.

With regards to the question at hand, I'd say it would be no doubt be a liberal Dem.

The problem is, who will it be? Also can this person win in this country's environment?

Problem is, Black people make up about 14% of the total population. LGBT people make up at most 2%. So the odds are way lower. Also, there's likely not going to be a presidency 60+ years down the line.
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2017, 12:47:03 pm »



People in the 1980s probably thought America would never have a black president.

With regards to the question at hand, I'd say it would be no doubt be a liberal Dem.

The problem is, who will it be? Also can this person win in this country's environment?

Problem is, Black people make up about 14% of the total population. LGBT people make up at most 2%. So the odds are way lower. Also, there's likely not going to be a presidency 60+ years down the line.

You are unforunately right about that. Plus the qualified field for LGBT politicians is much low. The only one that could be qualified to run would be Kate Brown or Oregon. Annise Parker would've been up there had she decided to hold another political office after leaving the mayor's office in Houston.
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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2017, 06:59:50 pm »



People in the 1980s probably thought America would never have a black president.

With regards to the question at hand, I'd say it would be no doubt be a liberal Dem.

The problem is, who will it be? Also can this person win in this country's environment?

Problem is, Black people make up about 14% of the total population. LGBT people make up at most 2%. So the odds are way lower. Also, there's likely not going to be a presidency 60+ years down the line.
5-10% of the population is gay/bisexual.
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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2017, 09:34:16 pm »

Problem is, Black people make up about 14% of the total population. LGBT people make up at most 2%. So the odds are way lower.
5-10% of the population is gay/bisexual.

The problem is (this can go on forever ...) that nobody knows exactly how many people are LGBT since there are many people who will never admit that they are LGBT, even to themselves.

Williams Institute says that a little less than 4% of the U.S. population self-identify as LGBT, and less than 10% have said that they ever had a same-sex encounter or have felt any attraction to the same sex.

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/research/census-lgbt-demographics-studies/how-many-people-are-lesbian-gay-bisexual-and-transgender/
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2017, 09:11:10 am »



People in the 1980s probably thought America would never have a black president.

With regards to the question at hand, I'd say it would be no doubt be a liberal Dem.

The problem is, who will it be? Also can this person win in this country's environment?

Problem is, Black people make up about 14% of the total population. LGBT people make up at most 2%. So the odds are way lower. Also, there's likely not going to be a presidency 60+ years down the line.
5-10% of the population is gay/bisexual.

It's less than 5 %. And there will not be one ever. End of story.
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« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2017, 11:47:59 am »



People in the 1980s probably thought America would never have a black president.

With regards to the question at hand, I'd say it would be no doubt be a liberal Dem.

The problem is, who will it be? Also can this person win in this country's environment?

Problem is, Black people make up about 14% of the total population. LGBT people make up at most 2%. So the odds are way lower. Also, there's likely not going to be a presidency 60+ years down the line.

Why do you say that?
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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2017, 08:02:29 pm »



People in the 1980s probably thought America would never have a black president.

With regards to the question at hand, I'd say it would be no doubt be a liberal Dem.

The problem is, who will it be? Also can this person win in this country's environment?

Problem is, Black people make up about 14% of the total population. LGBT people make up at most 2%. So the odds are way lower. Also, there's likely not going to be a presidency 60+ years down the line.
5-10% of the population is gay/bisexual.

It's less than 5 %. And there will not be one ever. End of story.
Yes there will.
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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2017, 08:04:44 pm »
« Edited: March 14, 2017, 08:17:27 pm by Governor diptheriadan »



People in the 1980s probably thought America would never have a black president.

With regards to the question at hand, I'd say it would be no doubt be a liberal Dem.

The problem is, who will it be? Also can this person win in this country's environment?

Problem is, Black people make up about 14% of the total population. LGBT people make up at most 2%. So the odds are way lower. Also, there's likely not going to be a presidency 60+ years down the line.

Why do you say that?

I think that 60-100 years into the future, America will likely default on it's debt. This will more than likely bring down the global economy. The world likely react the same way as before (Great Depression).
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« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2017, 11:01:22 pm »

"Third Way" corporatist like HRC

Moderate Democrat.
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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2017, 11:34:34 am »



People in the 1980s probably thought America would never have a black president.

With regards to the question at hand, I'd say it would be no doubt be a liberal Dem.

The problem is, who will it be? Also can this person win in this country's environment?

Problem is, Black people make up about 14% of the total population. LGBT people make up at most 2%. So the odds are way lower. Also, there's likely not going to be a presidency 60+ years down the line.

Historically, an inordinate amount of famous people have been LGB if they are 2% of the population. As views change, people will be more open to the idea, so even this inordinate amount would increase.

To be clear: I am not saying you are right. I am simply saying if you are right.
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« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2017, 06:23:35 pm »



People in the 1980s probably thought America would never have a black president.

With regards to the question at hand, I'd say it would be no doubt be a liberal Dem.

The problem is, who will it be? Also can this person win in this country's environment?

Problem is, Black people make up about 14% of the total population. LGBT people make up at most 2%. So the odds are way lower. Also, there's likely not going to be a presidency 60+ years down the line.

Historically, an inordinate amount of famous people have been LGB if they are 2% of the population. As views change, people will be more open to the idea, so even this inordinate amount would increase.

To be clear: I am not saying you are right. I am simply saying if you are right.

Famous people being defined as?
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« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2017, 12:54:35 am »



People in the 1980s probably thought America would never have a black president.

With regards to the question at hand, I'd say it would be no doubt be a liberal Dem.

The problem is, who will it be? Also can this person win in this country's environment?

Problem is, Black people make up about 14% of the total population. LGBT people make up at most 2%. So the odds are way lower. Also, there's likely not going to be a presidency 60+ years down the line.

Historically, an inordinate amount of famous people have been LGB if they are 2% of the population. As views change, people will be more open to the idea, so even this inordinate amount would increase.

To be clear: I am not saying you are right. I am simply saying if you are right.

Famous people being defined as?

Persons known about by many people.
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« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2017, 08:44:28 pm »



People in the 1980s probably thought America would never have a black president.

With regards to the question at hand, I'd say it would be no doubt be a liberal Dem.

The problem is, who will it be? Also can this person win in this country's environment?

Problem is, Black people make up about 14% of the total population. LGBT people make up at most 2%. So the odds are way lower. Also, there's likely not going to be a presidency 60+ years down the line.

Historically, an inordinate amount of famous people have been LGB if they are 2% of the population. As views change, people will be more open to the idea, so even this inordinate amount would increase.

To be clear: I am not saying you are right. I am simply saying if you are right.

Famous people being defined as?


A few I can think of are...

Neil Patrick Harris
Ellen DeGeneres
Jim Parsons
Ellen Page
Jason Collins
Anderson Cooper
Harvey Levin
Nate Silver
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