Do you like the Old Pres/VP model.. or the newer model w/ more exp VP..

[SCNCmod]

Do you like the Old Pres/VP model.. where the President usually had the most experience on the ticket ... or the trend of the past 16 years...Less Experience Pres/ more experienced VP..

(The benefits to the newer model being- 1) more candidates to choose from for Pres... and 2) Less likely to have a presumptive nominee after 8 years (since usually more experienced means older).

[Rjjr77]

I don't agree with either as a "model" it ignores the candidates in general. The older/younger younger/older is just one of many different ways tickets have been balanced throughout history, geographically, age, experience, ideology. All have shown abilities to win as effectively as the other

Let's also not forget GWB was 54 when he ran for president, putting him middle of the pack age wise, it was more experience balance, not young/old. Cheney was only 5 years older.

[uti2]

According to Colin Powell's former aides, Cheney was basically calling all the shots. How much did Bush's 'experience' benefit him?

[Mister Mets]

We've had the newer model for a while.

FDR chose as the Speaker of the House as his running mate.
Henry Wallace was a two-term cabinet member.
Truman was a tenth-year Senator.
Alben Barkley had been the Senate leader for ten years.
Nixon was relatively unaccomplished.
LBJ was Senate Majority Leader.
Humphrey was Senate Majority Whip.
Agnew was unaccomplished.
Ford had been house minority leader for 8 years.
Nelson Rockefeller spent 14 years as Governor of New York.
Mondale had two full terms in the Senate.
Papa Bush had been UN Ambassador/ CIA director/ RNC Chairman/ Chinese liason,
Quayle has a low reputation but the political background equivalent to JFK.
Gore had 16 years in Congress.

The only two who fit the old model in the last 80+ years were Nixon and Agnew.

[SCNCmod]

I don't agree with either as a "model" it ignores the candidates in general. The older/younger younger/older is just one of many different ways tickets have been balanced throughout history, geographically, age, experience, ideology. All have shown abilities to win as effectively as the other

Let's also not forget GWB was 54 when he ran for president, putting him middle of the pack age wise, it was more experience balance, not young/old. Cheney was only 5 years older.

My Statement on the new Model was.... "or the trend of the past 16 years...Less Experience Pres/ more experienced VP.."

The whole premise is I am saying the last 16 years & most recent 3 presidential tickets... Have a VP who is FAR more experienced than the President

(I just added that this tends to lead to a VP "less likely" to be the presumptive nominee... as VPs with a lot of experience are often too old 8 years later...to want to jump into the race - as was the case with Biden & Cheney)

[Rjjr77]

Yes the last three administrations had that feel, but the previous three administrations didn't have that model, and no one thought THAT was a trend. The only trends are weakness filled by VP, and that's been the case forever.