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« Reply #2475 on: June 08, 2017, 05:13:23 PM »

New Landmark poll:

Ossoff 49.6 (+0.5)
Handel 47.1 (-0.5)

http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2017/06/08/wsb-poll-ossoff-pushes-50-percent-in-georgia-6th-race/
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« Reply #2476 on: June 08, 2017, 05:17:26 PM »


A few tidbits:

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« Reply #2477 on: June 08, 2017, 06:04:05 PM »


Not a good trend line here for Handel
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« Reply #2478 on: June 08, 2017, 06:10:32 PM »

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« Reply #2479 on: June 08, 2017, 06:22:37 PM »

I find it interesting that they state that Ossoff has a "majority" rather than "plurality." Handel has the Republican base (despite an unimpressive 15% backing Ossoff). Her two main issues here are her deficit among women (unsurprisingly) and her deficit among Independents (which Trump, Barksdale & other Republicans in Georgia's past have won and won handily too).

Although Handel's still got time, it's evaporating quickly and she has to do something that'll make her seem less "fake" or "uninspiring" because otherwise it will be an embarrassing defeat to her in a district that is usually very safe for Republicans in modern history and one where Trump is still (if i am not mistaken) slightly popular.

EDIT: Also, as others have said already that trend is something Handel should worry about.
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« Reply #2480 on: June 08, 2017, 06:32:31 PM »

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At this point, I'd bet that Ossoff is more recognizable in Atlanta than Nathan Deal or Kasim Reed.
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« Reply #2481 on: June 08, 2017, 06:50:23 PM »

Wow, I woke up from my nap to some great news around the world, including here! Still, way too much time for Republicans to rally around the flag and put Handel into Congress. Things are looking good though.

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At this point, I'd bet that Ossoff is more recognizable in Atlanta than Nathan Deal or Kasim Reed.

With the amount of cash that's been infused, that's not too surprising.
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« Reply #2482 on: June 08, 2017, 08:21:49 PM »

For reference:

In April (all votes), Fulton was 45%, Cobb 32% and Dekalb 23%.

In early vote, Fulton was 53%, Cobb 26% and Dekalb 21%.

Through today:

Cobb 11502 (16.5%)
DeKalb 17229 (24.8%)
Fulton 40828 (58.7%)
Total 69559

Not much change in proportions through today's update:

Cobb 12422 (16.5%)
DeKalb 18644 (24.7%)
Fulton 44397 (58.8%)
Total 75463
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« Reply #2483 on: June 08, 2017, 08:30:18 PM »

For reference:

In April (all votes), Fulton was 45%, Cobb 32% and Dekalb 23%.

In early vote, Fulton was 53%, Cobb 26% and Dekalb 21%.

Through today:

Cobb 11502 (16.5%)
DeKalb 17229 (24.8%)
Fulton 40828 (58.7%)
Total 69559

Not much change in proportions through today's update:

Cobb 12422 (16.5%)
DeKalb 18644 (24.7%)
Fulton 44397 (58.8%)
Total 75463
Man Cobb is not coming out for Handel
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« Reply #2484 on: June 08, 2017, 08:58:27 PM »

Looks like EV turnout is returning to more normal levels but still ridiculously high for a special.
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« Reply #2485 on: June 08, 2017, 09:02:24 PM »

For reference:

In April (all votes), Fulton was 45%, Cobb 32% and Dekalb 23%.

In early vote, Fulton was 53%, Cobb 26% and Dekalb 21%.

Through today:

Cobb 11502 (16.5%)
DeKalb 17229 (24.8%)
Fulton 40828 (58.7%)
Total 69559

Not much change in proportions through today's update:

Cobb 12422 (16.5%)
DeKalb 18644 (24.7%)
Fulton 44397 (58.8%)
Total 75463
Man Cobb is not coming out for Handel

One factor may have been that Cobb had a favorite son in the first round but not in the second. If Judson Hill was focused on Cobb County and ginning up turnout there in the first round (a sensible decision, since he only had to beat Handel, not Ossoff, in the first round), the lack of his presence in the second round could be felt in terms of organization and enthusiasm there. Same for other regions with R candidates who lost, but Hill was the most regional of them and had little support outside of Cobb.
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« Reply #2486 on: June 08, 2017, 09:03:29 PM »

For reference:

In April (all votes), Fulton was 45%, Cobb 32% and Dekalb 23%.

In early vote, Fulton was 53%, Cobb 26% and Dekalb 21%.

Through today:

Cobb 11502 (16.5%)
DeKalb 17229 (24.8%)
Fulton 40828 (58.7%)
Total 69559

Not much change in proportions through today's update:

Cobb 12422 (16.5%)
DeKalb 18644 (24.7%)
Fulton 44397 (58.8%)
Total 75463
Man Cobb is not coming out for Handel

One factor may have been that Cobb had a favorite son in the first round but not in the second. If Judson Hill was focused on Cobb County and ginning up turnout there in the first round (a sensible decision, since he only had to beat Handel, not Ossoff, in the first round), the lack of his presence in the second round could be felt in terms of organization and enthusiasm there. Same for other regions with R candidates who lost, but Hill was the most regional of them and had little support outside of Cobb.
Which is not good for Handel
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« Reply #2487 on: June 08, 2017, 09:32:40 PM »

Between the polling and the turnout so far I don't see how this can't be described as lean D at this point.
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« Reply #2488 on: June 08, 2017, 09:45:02 PM »

Between the polling and the turnout so far I don't see how this can't be described as lean D at this point.

Agreed. I'm still gunshy about drawing conclusions from early voting after November, but Ossoff overperformed his polls in round 1 and it's hard to imagine the environment favoring Handel.
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« Reply #2489 on: June 09, 2017, 06:45:20 AM »
« Edited: June 09, 2017, 07:06:45 AM by GeorgiaModerate »

New AJC poll: http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2017/06/09/ajc-poll-ossoff-opens-lead-over-handel-in-georgias-6th/

Ossoff 51
Handel 44

1000 RV, MOE 4%
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« Reply #2490 on: June 09, 2017, 07:13:44 AM »


Nice, Ossoff is now consistently hitting or crossing 50%.
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« Reply #2491 on: June 09, 2017, 07:23:24 AM »

Dominating!

The poll trendline is very promising for Dems.
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« Reply #2492 on: June 09, 2017, 07:38:57 AM »

Lean D, confirmed.
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« Reply #2493 on: June 09, 2017, 08:13:06 AM »

Funny isn't 51-44 also the number USA today had?
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« Reply #2494 on: June 09, 2017, 08:20:07 AM »

Funny isn't 51-44 also the number USA today had?

I don't know about USA Today, but 11Alive (Atlanta NBC station) had 51-44 on May 23: http://www.11alive.com/news/politics/elections/ballot/exclusive-11alive-poll-ossoff-leads-51-to-handels-44/441904679
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« Reply #2495 on: June 09, 2017, 08:22:09 AM »

Funny isn't 51-44 also the number USA today had?

Yes, correct. I twice checked the date, whether it wasn't an old poll. Looks like this race is really turning into the Ossoff’s direction, though I wouldn't take it for granted. The numbers are very encouraging, but it’s still not safe. I’d rate the race as of now lean D at best, possibly still toss-up.
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« Reply #2496 on: June 09, 2017, 08:25:45 AM »

I'm not willing to go all the way to Lean Dem, but Tilt Dem seems acceptable.
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« Reply #2497 on: June 09, 2017, 10:44:08 AM »

Updated AJC article with more information: http://www.myajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/ossoff-has-the-edge-over-handel-ajc-poll-6th-district-race/YYuw1laXZXsKzqq52f4EeN/

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« Reply #2498 on: June 09, 2017, 11:05:44 AM »

If Trump's approval here is only ~33% and this remains about the same in 2018 and is relatively distributed across the country, the midterms will be a blood bath for the Republicans.
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« Reply #2499 on: June 09, 2017, 11:25:23 AM »

~33% approval for Trump and ~25% approval for the AHCA in a suburban Atlanta district? Dunno if I buy that completely but if the numbers are anywhere near that next fall nationwide, Republicans are going to have a rough midterm.
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