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« on: February 04, 2017, 11:32:31 PM »
« edited: February 04, 2017, 11:36:26 PM by bagelman »

If your favored candidate is a Democrat, explain why s/he will lose in the primaries or will decide not to enter.

If your favored candidate is a Republican, explain why Trump will lose reelection or why this other person will either be fought off by Trump or decide not to rebel against him.
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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2017, 11:35:43 PM »

what if my favored candidate won't lose
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2017, 11:37:44 PM »


yea Hillary Clinton wasn't going to lose either Wink

btw changed the title
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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2017, 11:40:34 PM »

The Bernie wing hates Booker
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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2017, 11:44:03 PM »

They'll swiftboat Tammy Duckworth, Al Franken won't run, Liz will be seen as too wonky and the left will hate Kamala for not prosecuting the bankers.
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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2017, 11:44:09 PM »

The Bernie purists will figure out a way to turn Jason Kander into an establishment neoliberal corporatist.

Republicans will try to swiftboat him somehow.
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2017, 12:46:14 AM »

The Bernie purists will figure out a way to turn Jason Kander into an establishment neoliberal corporatist.

Republicans will try to swiftboat him somehow.
I think an even bigger obstacle to Kander 2020 will be the fact that he'd be a former state attorney general. He needs to get elected to something ASAP. Even if he found his way to the House in 2018, he'd be a one-term Congressman running for president.

That and he'd be way too moderate for many Sandersites.
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2017, 12:54:50 AM »

My favorite candidate is Bernie Sanders, but he is becoming too old to realistically hold the Presidency. But the candidate I believe would be the best for the Dems to nominate would be Al Franken. He has said he won't run, but who knows. If he lost, it would probably be because he would struggle to definitively appeal to any faction of the party.
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2017, 01:03:49 AM »

I don't have a favorite candidate, so I'll do my top four:

Biden - won't run

Franken - won't run

Harris - exposed as unprepared, only popular because she checks the demographic boxes Democrats want.

Gillibrand - accusations of flip-flopping between her time in the House and her time in the Senate, combined with being labeled "Hillary 2.0."
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2017, 02:03:53 AM »

I'm not sure who the next Democratic nominee is going to be, but I hope it isn't any of the names being floated around on this forum.

I have a feeling it might be a dark horse who's elected to higher office in 2018 and decides to run for President in 2020.

If they lose, it'll be due to a perceived lack of experience.
 
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2017, 02:15:34 AM »

Al Franken: Won't run.

Sherrod Brown: Might not even  get re-elected in 2018, and if he barely makes it, he's as good as Mark Warner...either way, he'll be charismatically lacking, putting enthusiasm down on all sides, despite looking great on paper.

Jason Kander: Inexperienced

Liz Warren: Massachusetts coastal elitist wonk.

Joe Biden: Won't run
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2017, 02:35:52 AM »

I guess I tend to favor Kamala Harris, although I'm not attached to her.

She might not run because she's only in her first Senate term, and she might simply not want to be President, at least at this point.

If she runs, she might not win because she could have trouble competing with candidates who already have bases in the East, like Booker and Warren.

If she gets the nomination, she might not win the general because she could have trouble appealing to the white working class, and could be painted as a "San Francisco elitist."
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2017, 08:59:57 AM »

Sherrod Brown could fail to pick up progressive and minority support and lose CO, NV, WI, and MI, denying him a majority.

In the primary, he could be another Walker/Rubio and be a strong candidate on paper who can't find a bloc of support and does poorly.
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2017, 10:05:57 AM »

Al Franken doesn't have the oratorial skills to succeed in a party primary that has a strong progressive  populist bent without a strong establishment. He's Hillary Clinton without the baggage, and that isn't enough.

Sherrod Brown's voice could give out, and he could prove to be uncharismatic. Also he could lose in 2018.
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2017, 10:15:03 AM »

Bernie could lose because he's old, people won't vote for a socialist, there could be a lot of corporate $ spent against him, or he may not even run at all.
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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2017, 10:48:03 AM »

The Prepossessing, Pristine Kamala Harris Purple heart, Purple heart, Purple heart!:

She probably doesn't have the charisma or excitement many people are looking for.
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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2017, 03:16:23 PM »

For Trump to lose, he'd have to legitimately screw up and do something that is actually terrible (no, the travel ban wasn't terrible or discriminatory, plus the President has complete control over who is allowed in the country) that turned people against him; news slander wouldn't work because lots of people don't trust MSM (I remember seeing a survey from Gallup or something that said people hated MSM more than Congress).
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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2017, 04:32:01 PM »
« Edited: February 05, 2017, 04:33:44 PM by Celes Diamond »

Trick question. My favored candidate is Parker Lewis.

O'Malley could easily lose in the primaries if he doesn't work on his public speaking. His presentation style is often lacking and he doesn't translate very well on camera.
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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2017, 05:24:14 PM »

Klobuchar/Gillibrand gets dismissed as Hillary 2.0 by the media and low-information voters.
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« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2017, 07:37:46 PM »

I could see myself supporting several potential candidates, so I'll just go with the one who's favored to win my "endorsement" (look at me, I'm almost as important as Wulfric!)

Sherrod Brown could either:

-Lose re-election in 2018
-Decide not to run
-Prove to be a paper tiger, and turn in poor debate performances and not consolidate enough support to be competitive in a primary
-Fail to sway enough Trump voters in the Midwest to flip all three of WI/MI/PA
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« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2017, 07:44:59 PM »
« Edited: February 05, 2017, 07:46:47 PM by DK_Mo82 »

Sanders could lose if they hit him on electability in the primary.  Idk what polls will be saying though, right now he is popular.  

Trump could beat Sanders if he manages to keep the recession off til then and Sanders suffers low turnout. It is very hard to say what the positive possibilities for the Trump presidency are. Most of them involve attacks on democracy and civil rights in order to work. To natural gas boom would require illegal mass arrests and more, Literally warfare with Native American tribes which would be called "gangs" in the pro-Trump media.
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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2017, 07:53:17 PM »

Hillary Clinton - Because the American people are too stupid/sexist.

Now back to the game.
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« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2017, 06:32:02 PM »

Ted Cruz is my favorite candidate but he won't run in 2020 because Donald Trump will probably run for re election
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« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2017, 10:50:01 PM »

John Bel Edwards is too pro-life to win the Democratic nomination. And he won't run anyway, because he will be running for re-election in 2019.
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« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2017, 11:29:00 PM »

Sasse will be running for reelection in 2020
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