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« on: February 04, 2017, 01:11:06 AM »

"If" Joaquin Castro were to defeat Cruz in 2018...I think it would be a big boost for Julian's chances of being on the ticket in 2020. (More so to win Arizona than Texas... since both state have similar demo trends).

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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2017, 01:20:02 AM »

Texas has basically no chance of going D in 2018, especially against the beloved Lyin' Ted.
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2017, 01:36:36 AM »

Texas has basically no chance of going D in 2018, especially against the beloved Lyin' Ted.

If Trump has a turbulent 1st 2 years... Do you think Joaquin has a 25% chance? (I realize against most  R candidates in Texas he wouldn't... But Cruz is a more beatable candidate IMO- And a candidate that could motivate Dems in an off year election)
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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2017, 01:55:08 AM »

Texas has basically no chance of going D in 2018, especially against the beloved Lyin' Ted.

If Trump has a turbulent 1st 2 years... Do you think Joaquin has a 25% chance? (I realize against most  R candidates in Texas he wouldn't... But Cruz is a more beatable candidate IMO- And a candidate that could motivate Dems in an off year election)

-Fine; say the National Enquirer was right last year. Then sure whoever won the Dem nomination would be the talk of the town.
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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2017, 02:05:12 AM »

Texas has basically no chance of going D in 2018, especially against the beloved Lyin' Ted.

If Trump has a turbulent 1st 2 years... Do you think Joaquin has a 25% chance? (I realize against most  R candidates in Texas he wouldn't... But Cruz is a more beatable candidate IMO- And a candidate that could motivate Dems in an off year election)

-Fine; say the National Enquirer was right last year. Then sure whoever won the Dem nomination would be the talk of the town.

BTW... was that a total hit job out of left field... or have there been whispers about Cruz having affairs in the past?
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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2017, 02:42:27 AM »

Castro is a little boy, Lyin' Ted is gonna wipe the floor with him.

Texas is very hard but not impossible if Lyin' Ted faces a strong primary & then that candidate runs 3rd party/Indy or does something to discourage a large part of his voters & Dems put a very strong candidate (not a boy named Castro)
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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2017, 02:45:41 AM »

O'Rourke has already pretty much declared he is running.  The Castro brothers are not going to run against Cruz or for the presidency in 2020.  Julian will be out of political office since forever in 2020 so I really don't understand why some people keep mentioning him as a serious candidate.

O'Rourke at least has some accomplishments unlike Castro and he would be a much better choice against Cruz.
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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2017, 10:43:42 AM »

If Trump endorses Castro, he probably wins.
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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2017, 10:52:43 AM »

Joaquin would be throwing his career away to go after Cruz. I agree with Eharding that Texas probably isn't ripe for the picking yet; even if it is, the DSCC will be playing defence except in Arizona and Nevada anyway, and Dem gains will be more focused on the House and the States. Also, Joaquin would be better served trying to climb the ladder of House leadership than upgrade to Senate
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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2017, 11:10:39 AM »

policies of clintons and castro brothers are defeated, and they will not win ever again. if dems really want do win election, they should go fiscal left and stop with sjw tirade.
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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2017, 11:17:25 AM »

policies of clintons and castro brothers are defeated, and they will not win ever again. if dems really want do win election, they should go fiscal left and stop with sjw tirade.
Completely disassociating themselves from the SJWs would help the Democrats.
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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2017, 12:04:06 PM »

If Trump endorses Castro, he probably wins.

Why would Trump endorse Castro? Only because he hates Lyin Ted?
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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2017, 01:27:39 PM »

Yeah, I think Senator Castro would be a great VP choice for anyone in 2020. Probably not President though, because then he'd have to start campaigning right after winning a Senaate election, which is just weird.
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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2017, 01:52:20 PM »

If Castro defeated Cruz, it wouldn't be a big boost for his chances for being on the ticket.

It would pretty much guarantee it.
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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2017, 01:52:37 PM »

policies of clintons and castro brothers are defeated, and they will not win ever again. if dems really want do win election, they should go fiscal left and stop with sjw tirade.

That's a bit of a stretch... considering Joaquin in currently in office.. And Hillary got the 2nd most votes in the history of the United States (and Hillary had headwinds specific to her- unrelated to policy... so someone with her policies but without the baggage is far from never winning again)
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« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2017, 08:21:46 PM »

If Castro won a Senate seat in Texas, it would be in a perfect storm scenario that would be unlikely to repeat itself in the short-term. It'd be political malpractice - both by Castro and by the Democratic Party - to remove him from that office almost instantly so that he can play second-fiddle on a presidential ticket.

It's a Senate seat in TX we're talking about here: why would we instantly throw something like that away and likely guarantee that the GOP pick that Senate seat back up? Not to mention that being the Democratic Senator from TX would likely enhance future presidential prospects just as much as being VP would in this day and age. If Castro or any Democrat were to somehow win that seat, then they better commit to it for as long as they can win it - at least 2 or 3 terms, until the winds shift enough there to elect a Generic D.
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« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2017, 09:53:25 PM »

If Castro won a Senate seat in Texas, it would be in a perfect storm scenario that would be unlikely to repeat itself in the short-term. It'd be political malpractice - both by Castro and by the Democratic Party - to remove him from that office almost instantly so that he can play second-fiddle on a presidential ticket.

It's a Senate seat in TX we're talking about here: why would we instantly throw something like that away and likely guarantee that the GOP pick that Senate seat back up? Not to mention that being the Democratic Senator from TX would likely enhance future presidential prospects just as much as being VP would in this day and age. If Castro or any Democrat were to somehow win that seat, then they better commit to it for as long as they can win it - at least 2 or 3 terms, until the winds shift enough there to elect a Generic D.

If the special election takes place in a honeymoon period, Henry Cuellar or Ryan Guillen would easily hold the seat.
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« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2017, 10:21:19 PM »

I wonder if Castro's last name would hurt his chances in Florida.

No more than a candidate named "Kim" would have trouble among Korean-Americans. Castro is a common name in Florida.
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« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2017, 10:15:35 AM »

I wonder if Castro's last name would hurt his chances in Florida.

No more than a candidate named "Kim" would have trouble among Korean-Americans. Castro is a common name in Florida.

And Barack "Hussein" Obama's middle name did not hurt him in 2008 and 2012.
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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2017, 02:23:31 PM »

I wonder if Castro's last name would hurt his chances in Florida.

No more than a candidate named "Kim" would have trouble among Korean-Americans. Castro is a common name in Florida.

And Barack "Hussein" Obama's middle name did not hurt him in 2008 and 2012.
Because he used a fake birth certificate.
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« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2017, 09:52:21 PM »

Nice joke.
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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2017, 02:48:37 PM »

Barbara Boxer and Patty Murray is beloved by the Clintons.  Cruz doesn't like Trump or vise versa. If Trump continues with his low approvals anything is possible
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« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2017, 03:46:47 PM »

Please don't sign your posts, especially posts with nothing besides your John Hancock.
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