1804: Alexander Hamilton vs Thomas Jefferson

[RC (a la Frémont)]

The rule of "The president has to be born in the U.S." is never created and Hamilton is never killed in a duel, resulting in him being the Federalist candidate for president against Jefferson. Would he win?

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

Actually, even though it was created, Hamilton was grandfathered in, making him eligible regardless.

[brucejoel99]

Alexander Hamilton (F-NY)/Charles Cotesworth Pinckney (F-SC) - 88 EVs
Thomas Jefferson (DR-VA)/George Clinton (DR-NY) - 88 EVs

Just by looking at the map above, you'd (understandably) think it shows a Jefferson win of 90 EVs over Hamilton's 86. However, I can't figure out how to (& I don't think I can) split certain states' EVs in a map from 1840 (notice how 9 states are gray'd out), so keep in mind that Hamilton also gains the vote of 2 electors from PA & 1 elector each from VA & NC while Jefferson gains 2 EVs from MD, tying Jefferson & Hamilton on 88 EVs each.

Hamilton vs. Jefferson throws the election into the House of Representatives, where the members ballot as states to determine whether Hamilton or Jefferson becomes President. There are 17 states, & an absolute majority (in this case, 9) is required for victory. It's the outgoing House of Representatives, controlled by the Democratic-Republican Party, that's charged w/ electing the new President. However, Hamilton aggressively lobbies DR-Congressmen w/ promises & the like to vote for him, & secures the votes of *exactly* 9 state delegations to Jefferson's 8, making Hamilton the 4th President of the United States.

[Kingpoleon]

Thomas Jefferson/George Clinton: 88
Alexander Hamilton/John Quincy Adams: 88

Jefferson/Adams is elected. Clinton becomes Secretary of Treasury, Hamilton becomes Secretary of War.


1809-1817: James Madison/John Quincy Adams(Democratic-Republican)
1817-1825: John Quincy Adams/James Monroe(Democratic-Republican)
1825-1833: Henry Clay/Martin Van Buren(Whig)
1833-1837: Martin Van Buren/Winfield Scott(Whig)
1837-1841: John Crittenden/George M. Dallas(Democratic-Republican)
1841-1845: James Polk/Lewis Cass(Whig)
1845-1853: Zachary Taylor/Sam Houston(Democratic-Republican)
1853-1861: John Fremont/Sam Houston(Liberty)
1861: Sam Houston*/Cassius Clay(Liberty Union)
1861-1865: Cassius Clay/vacant
1865-1869: Cassius Clay/Hannibal Hamlin(Liberty)
1869-1877: Abraham Lincoln/Ulysses S. Grant(Liberty)
1877-1882: Horace Greeley**/Charles Francis Adams Sr.(Federal)
1882-1885: Charles Francis Adams Sr./Samuel Tilden(Federal)
1885-1893: Robert Todd Lincoln/Levi P. Morton(Liberty)
1893-1901: William Jennings Bryan/Adlai Stevenson I(People's)
1901-1904: Matthew Quay/Charles W. Fairbanks(Liberty)
1904-1909: Charles W. Fairbanks/Charles Evan Hughes(Liberty)
1909-1917: Charles Evan Hughes/Theodore Roosevelt Jr.(Liberty)
1917-1922: Woodrow Wilson**/Charles W. Bryan(People's)
1922-1929: Charles W. Bryan/Alfred Smith(People's)
1929-1933: Alfred Smith/John W. Davis(People's)
1933-1944: Hiram Johnson**/Herbert Hoover, vacant(Progressive)
1944-1953: Thomas Dewey/Earl Warren(Progressive)
1953-1962: Lyndon Johnson*/Scoop Jackson(People's)
1962-1965: Scoop Jackson/Joseph McCarthy(People's)
1965-1973: Eugene McCarthy/John Lindsay(Progressive)
1973-1981: John Lindsay/Mark Hatfield(Progressive)
1981: Ronald Reagan/James Carter(People's)

*assassinated
**died of natural causes

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Jefferson is viewed generally favorably outside of Federalist strongholds, thanks to a time of peace and low taxes. While Hamilton is able to reenergzie the party, he is a controversial figure and cannot overcome Jefferson's current success.

Electoral College:

123 - Thomas Jefferson (VA) /  George Clinton (NY)
53 - Alexander Hamilton (NY) / Charles Pinckney (SC)

Plebiscites:

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Actually, even though it was created, Hamilton was grandfathered in, making him eligible regardless.

Yes, the constitution clearly states those who were citizens at the time of its adoptions are just like "natural-born citizens".

Also, the President doesn't have to be born in the U.S., but to be a citizen from the day she or he were born. Even if Obama were born in Kenya, he'd still be eligible because after his mother we was U.S. citizen.