A Question regarding John Bell Edwards & Steve Bullock...

[SCNCmod]

John Bell Edwards seems to have the better resume & more interesting background (High School Valedictorian, Graduated from West Point with honors, head of the honor council at West Point, 8 years of Military Service, Father & Brother are both Sheriffs, etc).  But, he is probably disqualified in 2020 because he is pro-life (an issue which is shaping up to probably be a big campaign issue in 2020).

Steve Bullock seems more inline on the issues... but Bullock seems to have less interesting of a background/ on general narrative... And Montana hasn't seemed to standout regarding Economy, Education, etc.

Which one of the two is more charismatic, affable, etc?

[Maxwell]

John Bel Edwards is definitely a more firey campaigner, as Louisiana tends to make you. Bel Edwards has also maintained high popularity despite running a state in the middle of an economic crisis.

But Bullock ran a more left-wing campaign for sure, if masked in a right-wing tone.

Truthfully I like both, Bel Edwards is probably more charismatic but I don't think either are national players, at least yet.

[หมูเด้ง]

JBE seemed interesting but he made Contempt of Cop a Hate Crime...so...

[SCNCmod]

Does Being Pro-Life, make John Bell Edwards a no-go from the start...at least for 2020?

[justfollowingtheelections]

Does Being Pro-Life, make John Bell Edwards a no-go from the start...at least for 2020?

What makes him a no-go is the fact that the Louisiana gubernatorial election overlaps with the Democratic primary.

[Donerail]

JBE's signature on the bill making resisting arrest a hate crime, as well as his pro-life stance and rumors of a party switch should scuttle whatever slim national chances he had. No idea why folks on this board are so enchanted with the idea.

[justfollowingtheelections]

JBE's signature on the bill making resisting arrest a hate crime, as well as his pro-life stance and rumors of a party switch should scuttle whatever slim national chances he had. No idea why folks on this board are so enchanted with the idea.

I'm reading the comments on that link and both Democrats and Republicans in Louisiana seem to hate him (for different reasons).  He only seems to be popular here for some reason.

[Figueira]

JBE probably wants to run for re-election, which would preclude a 2020 run.

[Rjjr77]

JBE's signature on the bill making resisting arrest a hate crime, as well as his pro-life stance and rumors of a party switch should scuttle whatever slim national chances he had. No idea why folks on this board are so enchanted with the idea.

I'm reading the comments on that link and both Democrats and Republicans in Louisiana seem to hate him (for different reasons).  He only seems to be popular here for some reason.

Edwards is riding a high approval rating from his handling of the natural disasters they've had in Louisiana. Considering his signature accomplishments have held massive unpopularity I expect him to actually become much more vulnerable as his reelection campaign gets closer. As for him switching? Don't think it will stop Landry for coming for him, so why would he?

[White Trash]

JBE's signature on the bill making resisting arrest a hate crime, as well as his pro-life stance and rumors of a party switch should scuttle whatever slim national chances he had. No idea why folks on this board are so enchanted with the idea.

I'm reading the comments on that link and both Democrats and Republicans in Louisiana seem to hate him (for different reasons).  He only seems to be popular here for some reason.

Yeah that's not true. JBE is still decently popular for a Democrat elected to a statewide office, and this is after the honeymoon period.

And Figueira is right. JBE won't run in 2020 because his reelection makes that all but impossible to consider a run for the presidency.

[Beet]

JBE's signature on the bill making resisting arrest a hate crime, as well as his pro-life stance and rumors of a party switch should scuttle whatever slim national chances he had. No idea why folks on this board are so enchanted with the idea.

There's a sense that we need a red state moderate. Since 2004, the Democrats have nominated only blue-staters for president, while in 2012 and 2016, Republicans have nominated blue-staters as well. That takes vast swathes of the country off the map, to the benefit of the Republicans.

[RINO Tom]

JBE's signature on the bill making resisting arrest a hate crime, as well as his pro-life stance and rumors of a party switch should scuttle whatever slim national chances he had. No idea why folks on this board are so enchanted with the idea.

There's a sense that we need a red state moderate. Since 2004, the Democrats have nominated only blue-staters for president, while in 2012 and 2016, Republicans have nominated blue-staters as well. That takes vast swathes of the country off the map, to the benefit of the Republicans.

It'd be a decent strategy if it's GENUINE.  LOL, no red state (former/downballot) Democrats - or at least not enough - saw Al Gore as a genuine Southern populist, for example.

[Vega]

If Bel Edwards were some sort of enterprising pol who showed a real knack for campaigning and governing, and was someone with actual national potential who could win a primary and general election, I think that would be one thing.

However, I don't think it's wise just to point at the one Democratic Southern Governor and say, well, he MUST be doing something right, let's make him our nominee! He won an off year election in a deep red, christian state (though Louisiana is probably the least in those categories other than Georgia in the deep South) against a prostitute utilizing diaper fetishist establishment hack. Of course, blowing Vitter out of the water was quite something, but I wouldn't say that alone qualifies him to be the nominee in 2020. He's currently as out of place in the party as Lincoln Chafee was in the GOP in 2004.

[Donerail]

JBE's signature on the bill making resisting arrest a hate crime, as well as his pro-life stance and rumors of a party switch should scuttle whatever slim national chances he had. No idea why folks on this board are so enchanted with the idea.

There's a sense that we need a red state moderate. Since 2004, the Democrats have nominated only blue-staters for president, while in 2012 and 2016, Republicans have nominated blue-staters as well. That takes vast swathes of the country off the map, to the benefit of the Republicans.

And Dems are 2 for 4 in those elections, and Republicans are 1 for 2. Which suggests it's just about worthless when choosing a nominee.

[Suburbia]

JBE's signature on the bill making resisting arrest a hate crime, as well as his pro-life stance and rumors of a party switch should scuttle whatever slim national chances he had. No idea why folks on this board are so enchanted with the idea.

If you think that killing a police officer is a good thing, this is why the Democratic Party is in ruins. They are the authority.

[White Trash]

The idea of JBE switching parties is laughable. No Republican can be that left-wing on infrastructure and education. Y'all know that being pro-life doesn't make you a Republican, right?

[Blackacre]

yeah, JBE needs to run for reelex, and Bullock needs to run for Senate. I would absolutely have included JBE in my own TL if it weren't for his re-election being in 2019

[Rjjr77]

The idea of JBE switching parties is laughable. No Republican can be that left-wing on infrastructure and education. Y'all know that being pro-life doesn't make you a Republican, right?

Especially because it doesn't help him at all. How does that keep Landry at bay

[JoshPA]

If Bel Edwards were some sort of enterprising pol who showed a real knack for campaigning and governing, and was someone with actual national potential who could win a primary and general election, I think that would be one thing.

However, I don't think it's wise just to point at the one Democratic Southern Governor and say, well, he MUST be doing something right, let's make him our nominee! He won an off year election in a deep red, christian state (though Louisiana is probably the least in those categories other than Georgia in the deep South) against a prostitute utilizing diaper fetishist establishment hack. Of course, blowing Vitter out of the water was quite something, but I wouldn't say that alone qualifies him to be the nominee in 2020. He's currently as out of place in the party as Lincoln Chafee was in the GOP in 2004.

He only won because no one like vitter if a a high profile republican is the nominee in 2019 he not winning reelection