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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2017, 03:18:21 PM »

maek u think
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« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2017, 04:47:22 PM »

This is as dumb as Runeghost's "Signs of Fascism" signature.

-Only halfway there, I think.
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« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2017, 05:16:04 PM »

I'm not sure there's a direct correlation. However, I will say I think the left has lost their minds a bit on identity politics. Hillary Clinton would have won the election had she run as her husband's campaign of 1996. Of course, her husband's '96 campaign said "We should end Welfare as we know it", and "The era of big government is over". He signed the DOMA that year, and also received FOP police endorsements for his tough on crime stances.

Identity politics would be more of a menace if people started demanding that government serve specific communities. That has not happened. There has been no drive to promote patronage in favor of certain 'ethnic' groups at the expense of white people. The rise of the large black and Hispanic middle classes is more analogous to the rise of Polish-Americans and Italian-Americans, neither of which got special breaks for belonging to distinctive communities. The Hispanic (except for Cuban-Americans) and especially black middle classes are more obvious (you cannot identify Polish-Americans except by surnames... I should know, as I do genealogy in an area with many people of Polish origin) by physical characteristics... but there's not much of a "hate Whitey" constituency in either.    

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Anyone still proud to be white is literally deplorable.

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The electoral results do nothing to show that Donald Trump isn't  "deplorable, racist, sexist, homophobic, misogynistic", etc. ... he proved the ideal demagogue for appealing to people with huge frustrations, including witness to the rise of a large non-white middle class that dislikes white losers.  Donald Trump appealed in part to mass vulgarity generally associated with ignoramuses. For many white people the only chance that they have of getting rich is buying a potential winner of the Super-Duper Megabucks Lotto... and Donald Trump lives that fantasy.

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Maybe we Americans need some more education in economics (that there is no free lunch and that change is the norm in economic reality), psychology (so that we be less vulnerable to manipulation by sociopaths and psychopaths), and philosophy (so that we be able to recognize fallacious arguments, especially those involving overt contradictions). But that would take more than K-12 education.  K-14, which would include two years of community college, needs to be the norm. Really, 18-year-olds and 19-year-olds are generally unready for any but the most menial roles in economic life no matter how intelligent they may be.  

"Democratic logic?" There is no such thing, any more than there is "Republican logic". There is only logic. People who reject logic are gullible in the extreme.

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There will be much agony in America because the government will now serve people who believe that no human suffering is in excess so long as it serves their sadism, greed, power lust, and ostentatious indulgence. For four years the image and reality of America will be the vile personality of Donald Trump.

Do you people understand why you lost? If a black or a Latino can scream Black pride on TV, why can't a white? Should whites bow down and bend over? Are you people serious?
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« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2017, 05:48:17 PM »

The reason I ask is that someone reported your post, with a racism rap.

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« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2017, 01:25:08 AM »

I'm not sure there's a direct correlation. However, I will say I think the left has lost their minds a bit on identity politics. Hillary Clinton would have won the election had she run as her husband's campaign of 1996. Of course, her husband's '96 campaign said "We should end Welfare as we know it", and "The era of big government is over". He signed the DOMA that year, and also received FOP police endorsements for his tough on crime stances.

Everything I just described is now considered "racist", "homophobic" and "intolerant" by the left of today's Democratic Party.

I think the problem that has liberals in meltdown right now is that America didn't vote for their vision. They made Donald Trump out as "deplorable, racist, sexist, homophobic, misogynistic, ect....and America responded by electing him with over 300 electoral votes.

That means either A.) American's didn't buy into the Democratic logic or B.) Americans didn't care.

Either way, it's an agonizing defeat for liberals and they don't know how to deal with that.

What's being talked about here goes back much further than 20 years. What used to be called the 'New Left' had its start in the fifties and sixties. They demonstrated outside the 1968 DNC when they didn't get the candidate they wanted. By 1972 New Left ideas had captured the imagination of the wider left and they got the candidate they wanted. Both times they helped Richard Nixon to win.  The ideology was not popular and caused them to lose elections so it had to be toned down, in public at least. This message was further hammered home by the election losses in 1980, 1984, 1988 and 1994.

However whilst New left ideology was losing elections it was still gaining ground. Although, just like soviet communism, its advocates think they are fighting for the interests of 'the oppressed' in reality the interests they represent are those of the bureaucratic class, again just like Soviet communism.

So whilst the New Left were losing election after election, causing the Democratic Party to disguise this aspect of its ideology in elections like 1996, its supporters and adherents in the bureaucratic class - in government, in academia, in big corporations, in schools and in the charity/non profit sectors - were doing everything they could to promote and indeed enforce this ideology. This is what became known as political correctness and it was in full swing well before the 1996 election.

You described the situation better than I ever could. We have a distinct, very radical minority basically running America's major institutions (schools, colleges, bureaucracies, EPA, ect).

Trump's picks for his administration have finally given me hope. It seems he was serious when he said he was going to 'drain the swamp'. I wonder how much better America will do now that we don't have liberal shackles holding us back on everything.
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