Canadian Redistribution - Federal, Provincial, Municipal

[Ontarois]

I prefer Krago's can-kicking abiltiies to those of Ksituan Northland

[Hatman 🍁]

Ottawa's ward boundary review options report is out. I had no idea they were taking feedback from public on this, and there was even a survey on it. >-( Oh well, plenty of time to participate going forward. Apparently, more people wanted to increase the size of council than decrease! I doubt Ford will let us get away with increasing council size. There are five options in the report, two status quo (23 wards), one  that decreases to 17 wards, and two that increase (24 and 25). All of the maps are terrible, gerrymandered monstrosities. I explained earlier in this thread how a 24 map would be best and how it would have the least affect on the current ward boundaries. Anyway, here is the report: https://app05.ottawa.ca/sirepub/cache/2/e2ekqhmi0gcwyjw3dsb022uv/64527106262020093259974.PDF

[Estrella]

A bit off topic, but Ksituan also has a DeviantArt with some cool stuff - a lot of it fictional, but RL maps of all Canadian things political as well.

[catographer]

A bit off topic, but Ksituan also has a DeviantArt with some cool stuff - a lot of it fictional, but RL maps of all Canadian things political as well.

Follow him on twitter! I love his stuff.

[Hatman 🍁]

A bit off topic, but Ksituan also has a DeviantArt with some cool stuff - a lot of it fictional, but RL maps of all Canadian things political as well.

His map of Alberta truly is a work of art.

[Krago]

Here are some new Ottawa ward boundary proposals for those so interested.

https://www.tinyurl.com/Ottawa24

The 24-ward option is the brainchild of Hatman; I take full blame for the 23- and 25-ward proposals.

[Njall]

Edmonton’s Indigenous Ward Naming Knowledge Committee has released its recommendations on municipal Ward names for the 2021 election: https://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/city_organization/indigenous-ward-naming-knowledge-committee.aspx. City council will debate the report on Sept. 21.

[Hatman 🍁]

Edmonton’s Indigenous Ward Naming Knowledge Committee has released its recommendations on municipal Ward names for the 2021 election: https://www.edmonton.ca/city_government/city_organization/indigenous-ward-naming-knowledge-committee.aspx. City council will debate the report on Sept. 21.

Cool idea. It's going to be fun for locals to try and pronounce some these, though. Especially Ward 10.

[Krago]

Guelph Council composition report recommends eight full-time councillors, one per ward

I know what I'm doing this weekend.

[Hatman 🍁]

Guelph Council composition report recommends eight full-time councillors, one per ward

I know what I'm doing this weekend.

What a catch-22. I oppose reducing the size of councils, but support having one councillor per ward.

[Poirot]

General question on redistribution. I've been reading many people want to get out of city to go to suburbs or more rural place because there is more space for families when you have to stay home and now more people work from home so less need to be near downtown.

There is a census coming. Is it possible there is a population shift that could have some effects for the next redistribution? Or is the effect if it exists very small and doesn't matter. There is also less immigration and I think for federal purposes they take into account everyone even if not voters.

[Hatman 🍁]

General question on redistribution. I've been reading many people want to get out of city to go to suburbs or more rural place because there is more space for families when you have to stay home and now more people work from home so less need to be near downtown.

There is a census coming. Is it possible there is a population shift that could have some effects for the next redistribution? Or is the effect if it exists very small and doesn't matter. There is also less immigration and I think for federal purposes they take into account everyone even if not voters.

The next census is only next May. Do you think there's going to be a lot of people moving before then?

[Poirot]

General question on redistribution. I've been reading many people want to get out of city to go to suburbs or more rural place because there is more space for families when you have to stay home and now more people work from home so less need to be near downtown.

There is a census coming. Is it possible there is a population shift that could have some effects for the next redistribution? Or is the effect if it exists very small and doesn't matter. There is also less immigration and I think for federal purposes they take into account everyone even if not voters.

The next census is only next May. Do you think there's going to be a lot of people moving before then?

I don't know in absolute numbers, it could be a problem of supply and demand but prices for homes are going up. With the usual movement of people leaving Montreal for the greater region and maybe less immigration to replace those leaving and less university students needing to be near universities I was wondering if it will make a difference. Probably not enough in numbers.

[Krago]

Guelph Council composition report recommends eight full-time councillors, one per ward

I know what I'm doing this weekend.

What a catch-22. I oppose reducing the size of councils, but support having one councillor per ward.

Here are my six kicks at the can.

http://bit.ly/GuelphWards


And here is the exhaustive agenda for the special City Council meeting.  Rather than endorse eight single-member wards, Council asked the Consultants to prepare maps of different scenarios (2x6, 1x8, 1x10, 1x12).

https://pub-guelph.escribemeetings.com/FileStream.ashx?DocumentId=10087


https://www.guelphtoday.com/local-news/council-makes-decisions-on-its-future-make-up-2850227

https://www.guelphtoday.com/columns/market-squared-by-adam-a-donaldson/the-ouroboros-shaped-city-council-discussion-predictably-eats-itself-2857188

https://www.guelphtoday.com/local-news/have-your-say-about-how-guelph-votes-2862209

[Hatman 🍁]

Decent job. I know how difficult dividing Guelph's south end is. I split it up nearly the exact same way when I made an 8 seat Wellington County map (from an ongoing project I'm doing of a 508 seat Ontario Legislative Assembly, maintaining county borders)

[DL]

Now that the BC election is over and the NDP won big - I wonder how long before the issue of redistribution comes up. Right now BC has a formula that is extremely generous to the depopulated interior and the BC Liberals likely got a bonus of 3 or 4 seats beyond what they should have had because they win a bunch of interior seats with extremely small populations (i.e. Peace River North, Peace River South, Nechako Lakes, the Cariboos etc...). Granted the NDP also has some "rotton boroughs" like North Coast and Stikine.

I wonder if the NDP will reduce the allowable deviation in riding populations and have a new map in time for the 2024 election that would likely add seats in the Lower Mainland and in southern Vancouver Island and subtract seats in the interior?

[Hatman 🍁]

I'm reminded of when the NS NDP got rid of the protected franco ridings and the African riding, and people got upset. Not saying they lost the election because of that, but these kinds of things can be unpopular. Best to sneakily increase the size of the legislature by adding seats in the Lower Mainland.

[DL]

I'm reminded of when the NS NDP got rid of the protected franco ridings and the African riding, and people got upset. Not saying they lost the election because of that, but these kinds of things can be unpopular. Best to sneakily increase the size of the legislature by adding seats in the Lower Mainland.

I think the issue there was that ridings had been created specifically with the goal of ensuring representation of francophones and for Blacks...in BC the ridings with small populations are not designed to favour any minority group - they are just rural seats with too few people.

[Hatman 🍁]

Final report from Ottawa's ward boundary review:



I wonder what the odds are of Doug Ford rolling back any recommendations?

[Krago]

On Tuesday, the Consultants hired by the City of Guelph to review its ward boundaries released 13 proposed ward maps.  They also included a link to download the shapefile used to create the proposals.

https://www.haveyoursay.guelph.ca/council-composition


On Thursday, I released my (first) five alternatives.

Alternative Guelph Ward Maps


I'm going to be busy this weekend.

[beesley]

On Tuesday, the Consultants hired by the City of Guelph to review its ward boundaries released 13 proposed ward maps.  They also included a link to download the shapefile used to create the proposals.

https://www.haveyoursay.guelph.ca/council-composition


On Thursday, I released my (first) five alternatives.

Alternative Guelph Ward Maps


I'm going to be busy this weekend.

For what it's worth the second iteration of your 6 ward proposal was my favourite. In the 8 and 10 ward proposals the south of Guelph is a bit cumbersome.

[Krago]

I now have eight alternatives.  I rest my case.

Alternative Guelph Ward Maps

[Krago]

Final report from Ottawa's ward boundary review:



I wonder what the odds are of Doug Ford rolling back any recommendations?

The Overbrook Community Association is appealing the new ward boundaries to the LPAT.

New ward boundary? OCA objects.

Ward boundary changes appealed by community groups

[Hatman 🍁]

Final report from Ottawa's ward boundary review:



I wonder what the odds are of Doug Ford rolling back any recommendations?

The Overbrook Community Association is appealing the new ward boundaries to the LPAT.

New ward boundary? OCA objects.

Ward boundary changes appealed by community groups

It was rather dumb for them to suggest moving the boundary. Vanier may not exist as its own city any more, but it still exists as a neighbourhood, and its southern boundary hasn't changed as a result, even if it runs between houses.

[MaxQue]

https://bcebc.ca/

Preliminary report of the BC Commission, who proposes adding 6 seats (Burnaby, Kelowna, Langley, Surrey, Vancouver, South Vancouver Island).

Using Ridingbuilder, the results would be:

NDP 61 (+4)
Lib 30 (+2)
Grn 2

New NDP seats are Burnaby-New Westminster, Langley-Willoughby, Surrey Central, Juan de Fuca-Malahat and Vancouver-South Granville
The new Liberal seat is Kelowna Centre

NPD gain over Green in Cowichan Valley, Green gain over Liberal in West Vancouver-Sea to Sky, Liberal gains over NDP in Vancouver-Yaletown (former Vancouver-False Creek) and Langley-Aldergrove (former Langley East).