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Question: What would happen if Ted Cruz runs for president again
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He will win the nomination but lose the general election
 
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He will lose the nomination but become the VP nominee and win the General election
 
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He will lose the nomination and not be VP
 
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He will lose the nomination and become the VP nominee but lose the general election
 
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He will win the nomination and win the general election
 
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He will lose the nomination and run third party but lose the general election
 
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He will lose the nomination and run third party and win the General election
 
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« on: January 06, 2017, 02:58:13 PM »

What do you think would happen if Ted Cruz were to run for president again
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2017, 03:02:12 PM »

He will be humiliated in typical Cruzian fashion.
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2017, 03:12:13 PM »

He's not liked, he's not charismatic, his policies are out of line even with mainstream republicans, he's ugly.  There is no appeal.


Trump may be charismatic but all the other stuff about Cruz is true about Trump and he won. Though if Pence decides to run for president I would say Ted Cruz would lose the nomination but become Pence's VP since both of them are good friends and can benefit from each other. Pence brings the evangelicals out and Cruz brings the tea party out so there for I'd think that he would probably be VP
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2017, 05:02:00 PM »

Also Trump isn't that attractive but Cruz is profoundly bad looking.  Cruz does not seem like a good fit for running for office, he seems more like an accountant.

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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2017, 08:59:39 PM »

I don't see Cruz running for President in 2020.  He'll likely run in 2024, but he'll be yesterday's news.

I DO think that Cruz may do what he needs to do to remake his image, become, at a minimum, less hated.  He's a powerful intellect and he's respected for his intelligence (if nothing else).  These qualities could be the basis of a guy who can befriend new Senators and become a power in the Senate.  While he could not do so now, it's possible that by 2020, there will be enough turnover in the Senate for Cruz to look at becoming Senate Majority Leader.

I can't see anyone but Mike Pence as VP in 2024 if Trump is re-elected.  I don't see Cruz as a VP pick, but he MAY move in the direction of being less despised.  We'll see.
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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2017, 08:13:54 PM »

Run for President when?
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2017, 08:15:40 PM »

He built up support from being a nobody with 3-4% in national polling up to a pretty close national second place, building a fairly broad coalition in the process. I don't think he'd get the nomination (2016 was his shot and he blew it imo), but I would not underestimate the man.
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2017, 08:24:53 PM »

Why Ted Cruz will most likely never be president... Can you imagine how awful it would be to be stuck sitting next to Ted Cruz at a barbecue?
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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2017, 11:07:36 PM »

Resounding 5/6 supermajority says f#ck Ted Cruz.
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2017, 12:49:15 AM »

Lyin' Ted is perfectly suited to cater to the Republican primary voters who tend to be more crazy than a GE voter. I think Lyin' Ted has the Tea Party lunatic votes locked up & he will win the nomination in 2024 & then lose big in the GE.

Personally I would love it Cruz loses a primary in 2018 - Lyin' Ted's political career ending would be an amazing sight (more preferable them Dems taking back both houses)
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2017, 11:13:14 AM »

He's not liked, he's not charismatic, his policies are out of line even with mainstream republicans, he's ugly.  There is no appeal.
Cruz is the greatest speaker in American politics since Reagan.
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2017, 11:22:59 AM »

Just put him on the Court and be done with it.
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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2017, 11:26:11 AM »

I have never met person offline that likes Ted Cruz.
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2017, 06:44:15 AM »
« Edited: January 11, 2017, 02:36:25 PM by Mr. Morden »

By 2020, he will be even uglier than now

On top of that, he will never shake off the nickname "lyin" Ted...It's practically his first name at this point

An interesting point.

This is the same arguments many Democrats (and GOP rivals) made about Nixon in 1968.  They thought they could scour the footage and hammer Nixon with it, but when they looked, they found nothing definitive that could knock Nixon out.  

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The link is to The Selling of the President 1968.  There is, in this book, a memo from Nixon's ad man, Harry Trelaven  (who managed Poppy Bush's successful election to Congress in 1966).  It talks of the negatives attached to Nixon (Newness, Glamour, Humor, Warmth) and points oud that the first two aren't really negatives in light of Nixon's superior experience and intellect and the last two can be corrected with a sound strategy.  Treleven also went on to point out that some of the negatives associated with Nixon in the past (the "Tricky Dick image, the reputation for meanness and ruthlessness, for putting politics ahead of principle) had become dated and didn't apply to the Nixon of 1968.  The negative that DID hang on, according to Trelaven, was the "loser" image, and this could be rectified by winning.

I find Cruz in that similar situation for the future.  He's no longer new, he lacks glamour, humor, and warmth, but better handling could help him.  The "Lyin' Ted" image is the new "Tricky Dick" but it's possible that this can be corrected.  Cruz has a powerful intellect, which can overcome the lack of humor, glamour, and Nixon took care of the "loser" image by winning right out of the gate.
He'll be formidable if he runs again.  The difference is that this is the information age, and stuff can be Googled and kept alive in ways that didn't apply in 1968.  The other thing working against Cruz is that he is disliked amongst Republicans in ways that Nixon never was.  (Nixon, brash and self-serving, was also a GOP team player in ways Cruz has difficulty with.)  It's not impossible, however, that Cruz could evolve into a 1968 Nixon from where he is now.  
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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2017, 09:23:47 AM »

There are many problems with Cruz, the guy is a radical extremist & a homophobic. Ted has 0 cross-over appeal unlike Trump who got a massive 9% of Dems, who did well among Blue Collar Dems in the rust-belt & among independents who were tired of the political establishment. Trump had some cross-over policy concerning entitlements, infrastructure, wars, etc.

Trump swept the rural red counties which will be Cruz' base. I don't know how much margin a guy like Cruz can get in the suburbs where he seems unsuited to. How much more turnout will Cruz get from the base? For a GOP guy to win, you need a person who is electorally strong in the rust belt. Can Cruz win MI, WI, PA?

Apart from that Ted Cruz is genuinely unlikeable, I think scientists did some study that he has the most punchable face. The more people know him, the more they seem to hate him. 0 Senators support him, he has no respect for any Republican as well & he plays very dirty tricks & slimeball tactics to win.

And Ted Cruz will be bleeding in the GOP Primary due to the attacks, he was let go last time. I don't think people will say his father killed JFK but you will see all sorts of Super pacs doing dirty ads including the mistress & whatever stupid stuff Cruz does between now & 2024. Ted Cruz will have a target on his back the next time as he will go in as a big favorite
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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2017, 10:07:12 AM »

Nah, he won’t run. And if he does, he gets smoked by the Trumpster or any realistic replacement as candidate like Pence.
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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2017, 11:10:40 AM »
« Edited: January 11, 2017, 11:14:00 AM by UWS »

If he runs against Trump in 2020, he might win at least a few states but he will get demolished. But even if he loses a primary challenge against Trump, at least he will contribute to Trump's loss in 2020 because every president getting a primary challenge from their own party during their re-election campaign lost re-election in modern history, whether it's Gerald Ford in 1976, Jimmy Carter in 1980 and George H. W. Bush in 1992.

When it comes to 2024, Lyin Ted's senate seat will be up for re-election in 2024. So I don't think he will run in 2024 because he will either be running for re-election in the Senate or being defeated in a primary challenge in 2018.
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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2017, 11:43:25 AM »

If he runs against Trump in 2020, he might win at least a few states but he will get demolished. But even if he loses a primary challenge against Trump, at least he will contribute to Trump's loss in 2020 because every president getting a primary challenge from their own party during their re-election campaign lost re-election in modern history, whether it's Gerald Ford in 1976, Jimmy Carter in 1980 and George H. W. Bush in 1992.

When it comes to 2024, Lyin' Ted's senate seat will be up for re-election in 2024. So I don't think he will run in 2024 because he will either be running for re-election in the Senate or being defeated in a primary challenge in 2018.

Lyin' Ted doesn't have the balls to run against Trump. I think he will run in 2024 & for Senate like Rand Paul, Rubio did.

I am looking forward to the primary challenge Lyin' Ted faces as many GOP people have announced candidature. If there is a strong insurgent challenge & Trump tanks in 2018, then there is a very small chance that maybe Lyin' Ted may be defeated
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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2017, 02:19:49 PM »

If he runs against Trump in 2020, he might win at least a few states but he will get demolished. But even if he loses a primary challenge against Trump, at least he will contribute to Trump's loss in 2020 because every president getting a primary challenge from their own party during their re-election campaign lost re-election in modern history, whether it's Gerald Ford in 1976, Jimmy Carter in 1980 and George H. W. Bush in 1992.

When it comes to 2024, Lyin' Ted's senate seat will be up for re-election in 2024. So I don't think he will run in 2024 because he will either be running for re-election in the Senate or being defeated in a primary challenge in 2018.

Lyin' Ted doesn't have the balls to run against Trump. I think he will run in 2024 & for Senate like Rand Paul, Rubio did.

I am looking forward to the primary challenge Lyin' Ted faces as many GOP people have announced candidature. If there is a strong insurgent challenge & Trump tanks in 2018, then there is a very small chance that maybe Lyin' Ted may be defeated

There is no chance of Cruz losing his seat in TX after his endorsement, TX is deep red for the next decade, on the other hand, if the dems run a progressive against rubio in 2022, there's a good chance that rubio loses his seat. And of course, Cruz would pull the same act that rand did this year if he needed to in 2024. LBJ ran for both VP and senator in 1960.
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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2017, 02:48:40 PM »
« Edited: January 11, 2017, 07:41:19 PM by UWS »

If he runs against Trump in 2020, he might win at least a few states but he will get demolished. But even if he loses a primary challenge against Trump, at least he will contribute to Trump's loss in 2020 because every president getting a primary challenge from their own party during their re-election campaign lost re-election in modern history, whether it's Gerald Ford in 1976, Jimmy Carter in 1980 and George H. W. Bush in 1992.

When it comes to 2024, Lyin' Ted's senate seat will be up for re-election in 2024. So I don't think he will run in 2024 because he will either be running for re-election in the Senate or being defeated in a primary challenge in 2018.

Democrats seem to have this tendency of being less motivated in midterm elections than during presidential elections.

Lyin' Ted doesn't have the balls to run against Trump. I think he will run in 2024 & for Senate like Rand Paul, Rubio did.

I am looking forward to the primary challenge Lyin' Ted faces as many GOP people have announced candidature. If there is a strong insurgent challenge & Trump tanks in 2018, then there is a very small chance that maybe Lyin' Ted may be defeated

There is no chance of Cruz losing his seat in TX after his endorsement, TX is deep red for the next decade, on the other hand, if the dems run a progressive against rubio in 2022, there's a good chance that rubio loses his seat. And of course, Cruz would pull the same act that rand did this year if he needed to in 2024. LBJ ran for both VP and senator in 1960.

Democrats have this tendency of being less motivated during the midterm elections than during presidential elections. And I think Florida is getting more and more conservative. Plus the Cuban-American community is traditionnally conservative and I don't think Trump will win re-election in 2020.
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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2017, 04:20:53 PM »

In 2024, possibly.

In 2020, might as well be Ted Kennedy.
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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2017, 09:33:25 PM »

I feel like 2016 was his only chance, and it's gone now.

I don't see him doing very well running again.
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« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2017, 05:09:42 PM »

What do you think would happen if Ted Cruz were to run for president again
I see him running in 2024
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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2017, 06:53:02 PM »

What do you think would happen if Ted Cruz were to run for president again
I see him running in 2024

His Senate seat will be up for re-election in 2024.
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